Griz Secondary?

[get'em_griz]

reality is depressing? i guess it can be, but if you aren't realistic and you're doing poorly you'll be there.

What's your prediction for how this season plays out then?

9-3. losses to app, n.a.u. and m.s.u. the run game carries us, j.j. manages the game. the run d is good, the pass d costs us against app and m.s.u. we simply get upset be n.a.u. if not them then maybe some else. i don't see anyone going undefeated in league.

So, we go from 5-6 to 9-3 with the only major personnel change being at QB, yet somehow JJ doesn't "fix' eveything?

Exactly. A 9-3 season will be in large part due to JJ leading this team there with his talent. It won't be all JJ, but he will play a huge role.

If JJ lights up defenses this year, there better be some serious crow eaten...

 

[getgrizzy]

reality is depressing? i guess it can be, but if you aren't realistic and you're doing poorly you'll be there.

What's your prediction for how this season plays out then?

9-3. losses to app, n.a.u. and m.s.u. the run game carries us, j.j. manages the game. the run d is good, the pass d costs us against app and m.s.u. we simply get upset be n.a.u. if not them then maybe some else. i don't see anyone going undefeated in league.

So, we go from 5-6 to 9-3 with the only major personnel change being at QB, yet somehow JJ doesn't "fix' eveything?

i don't think the reason we went 5-6 was completely due to j.j. being out. it also had to do with the talent we lost on defense and a coaching change. we also lost a lot of close games and could've been 7-4 had we broke even in close games instead of going 1-5 in close games. wow, why is this so f'n difficult for anyone to understand? i'll say it one more time....we lost more than just j.j. last year!!! we had two guys get drafted and three first and second all-big sky guys in the secondary that were all seniors. not to mention waldhauser and fetherston and shaw. if you had a pulse at all you'd know that it wasn't all j.j.

also, j.j. won't be playing with a first year coach trying to coach something that isn't his style. and the defense won't be a bunch of first time starters. and the game plan will be run-heavy behind a line that can run block with the best of them. it's not hard to figure out people!!!

 

[AllWeatherFan]

it's not hard to figure out people!!!

Really? I've been trying to figure out people for a long time. Especially those of the female persuasion. So far I've figured out that they need a good listener.

 

[get'em_griz]

it's not hard to figure out people!!!

Really? I've been trying to figure out people for a long time. Especially those of the female persuasion. So far I've figured out that they need a good listener.

:lol:

 

[tgreseth]

it's not hard to figure out people!!!

Really? I've been trying to figure out people for a long time. Especially those of the female persuasion. So far I've figured out that they need a good listener.

Finally! Another topic I know nothing about and have no standing to comment on. Thank god for the internet: http://healthland.time.com/2013/06/06/qa-author-dan-bergner-on-what-women-want-hint-not-monogamy/

 

[Ursa Major]

it's not hard to figure out people!!!

Really? I've been trying to figure out people for a long time. Especially those of the female persuasion. So far I've figured out that they need a good listener.

Finally! Another topic I know nothing about and have no standing to comment on. Thank god for the internet: http://healthland.time.com/2013/06/06/qa-author-dan-bergner-on-what-women-want-hint-not-monogamy/

Finally my pet bonobos can come in handy. Lazy ass no-good monkeys!

 

[PlayerRep]

What's your prediction for how this season plays out then?

9-3. losses to app, n.a.u. and m.s.u. the run game carries us, j.j. manages the game. the run d is good, the pass d costs us against app and m.s.u. we simply get upset be n.a.u. if not them then maybe some else. i don't see anyone going undefeated in league.

So, we go from 5-6 to 9-3 with the only major personnel change being at QB, yet somehow JJ doesn't "fix' eveything?

i don't think the reason we went 5-6 was completely due to j.j. being out. it also had to do with the talent we lost on defense and a coaching change. we also lost a lot of close games and could've been 7-4 had we broke even in close games instead of going 1-5 in close games. wow, why is this so f'n difficult for anyone to understand? i'll say it one more time....we lost more than just j.j. last year!!! we had two guys get drafted and three first and second all-big sky guys in the secondary that were all seniors. not to mention waldhauser and fetherston and shaw. if you had a pulse at all you'd know that it wasn't all j.j.

also, j.j. won't be playing with a first year coach trying to coach something that isn't his style. and the defense won't be a bunch of first time starters. and the game plan will be run-heavy behind a line that can run block with the best of them. it's not hard to figure out people!!!

Generally true, but you vastly underestimate the impact of not having JJ last year, and underestimate what his role and value will be this season. With JJ, UM would have likely won 2 important early games, i.e. App St and EWU, and that would have had a huge positive impact on the rest of the season.

 

[BigPawzSharpClawz]

ONLY Griz Secondary Player mentioned in BSC TOP 10 DEFENSIVE BACKS FOR 2013

6. MATT HERMANSON, S, JR., MONTANA 2012: 67 tkl, 1½ tfl, 2 int, 6 pass def. THE BUZZ FOR 2013: Expectations were high for Hermanson after a breakout true freshman season. But the Sioux Falls, S.D., product wasn't as sharp in 2012. In fact, the Grizzlies' entire pass defense from top to bottom struggled last year. But give "Hermy" and safety partner Bo Tully the benefit of the doubt. There was a new head coach, a new coordinator, new schemes ... and lots of off-the-field drama to deal with. So don't be surprised if Hermanson comes back better than ever this season. But will he be included on the list of recent great Griz safeties when it's all said and done?


*** NATIONAL NO. 1: MARCUS WILLIAMS, CB, SR., NORTH DAKOTA STATE. Williams has 18 career interceptions, five of which he's returned for TDs. He had 7 picks in each of the last two years for the two-time reigning FCS champs. He should be prominent in the Buck Buchanan Award conversation.


Read more: http://billingsgazette.com/sports/college/blogs/catgrizinsider/big-sky-position-rankings-defensive-backs/article_a25b9b2c-b834-11e2-9d5b-001a4bcf887a.html#ixzz2bbmPmABy" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

 

[getgrizzy]

ONLY Griz Secondary Player mentioned in BSC TOP 10 DEFENSIVE BACKS FOR 2013

6. MATT HERMANSON, S, JR., MONTANA 2012: 67 tkl, 1½ tfl, 2 int, 6 pass def. THE BUZZ FOR 2013: Expectations were high for Hermanson after a breakout true freshman season. But the Sioux Falls, S.D., product wasn't as sharp in 2012. In fact, the Grizzlies' entire pass defense from top to bottom struggled last year. But give "Hermy" and safety partner Bo Tully the benefit of the doubt. There was a new head coach, a new coordinator, new schemes ... and lots of off-the-field drama to deal with. So don't be surprised if Hermanson comes back better than ever this season. But will he be included on the list of recent great Griz safeties when it's all said and done?


*** NATIONAL NO. 1: MARCUS WILLIAMS, CB, SR., NORTH DAKOTA STATE. Williams has 18 career interceptions, five of which he's returned for TDs. He had 7 picks in each of the last two years for the two-time reigning FCS champs. He should be prominent in the Buck Buchanan Award conversation.


Read more: http://billingsgazette.com/sports/college/blogs/catgrizinsider/big-sky-position-rankings-defensive-backs/article_a25b9b2c-b834-11e2-9d5b-001a4bcf887a.html#ixzz2bbmPmABy" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

exactly. we have one guy in the top 10 this year and we had 3 guys in the top eight in 2011. huge, huge difference right there. thanks bpsc.

 

[getgrizzy]

9-3. losses to app, n.a.u. and m.s.u. the run game carries us, j.j. manages the game. the run d is good, the pass d costs us against app and m.s.u. we simply get upset be n.a.u. if not them then maybe some else. i don't see anyone going undefeated in league.

So, we go from 5-6 to 9-3 with the only major personnel change being at QB, yet somehow JJ doesn't "fix' eveything?

i don't think the reason we went 5-6 was completely due to j.j. being out. it also had to do with the talent we lost on defense and a coaching change. we also lost a lot of close games and could've been 7-4 had we broke even in close games instead of going 1-5 in close games. wow, why is this so f'n difficult for anyone to understand? i'll say it one more time....we lost more than just j.j. last year!!! we had two guys get drafted and three first and second all-big sky guys in the secondary that were all seniors. not to mention waldhauser and fetherston and shaw. if you had a pulse at all you'd know that it wasn't all j.j.

also, j.j. won't be playing with a first year coach trying to coach something that isn't his style. and the defense won't be a bunch of first time starters. and the game plan will be run-heavy behind a line that can run block with the best of them. it's not hard to figure out people!!!

Generally true, but you vastly underestimate the impact of not having JJ last year, and underestimate what his role and value will be this season. With JJ, UM would have likely won 2 important early games, i.e. App St and EWU, and that would have had a huge positive impact on the rest of the season.

its exactly true, not generally. j.j.'s passing numbers weren't much better than the trent/shay numbers combined and j.j. had sambrano (indy colts) and moutra. the biggest differences were in the coaching staff...hello????...and on defense, especially in the secondary...see bpsc's post. wake up and smell the

 

[get'em_griz]

So, we go from 5-6 to 9-3 with the only major personnel change being at QB, yet somehow JJ doesn't "fix' eveything?

i don't think the reason we went 5-6 was completely due to j.j. being out. it also had to do with the talent we lost on defense and a coaching change. we also lost a lot of close games and could've been 7-4 had we broke even in close games instead of going 1-5 in close games. wow, why is this so f'n difficult for anyone to understand? i'll say it one more time....we lost more than just j.j. last year!!! we had two guys get drafted and three first and second all-big sky guys in the secondary that were all seniors. not to mention waldhauser and fetherston and shaw. if you had a pulse at all you'd know that it wasn't all j.j.

also, j.j. won't be playing with a first year coach trying to coach something that isn't his style. and the defense won't be a bunch of first time starters. and the game plan will be run-heavy behind a line that can run block with the best of them. it's not hard to figure out people!!!

Generally true, but you vastly underestimate the impact of not having JJ last year, and underestimate what his role and value will be this season. With JJ, UM would have likely won 2 important early games, i.e. App St and EWU, and that would have had a huge positive impact on the rest of the season.

its exactly true, not generally. j.j.'s passing numbers weren't much better than the trent/shay numbers combined and j.j. had sambrano (indy colts) and moutra. the biggest differences were in the coaching staff...hello????...and on defense, especially in the secondary...see bpsc's post. wake up and smell the

You're only looking at his overall stats and not how he improved at the end of the season. JJ was significantly better at the end of the 2011 season. His stats are watered down from the issues at the beginning of the season. He owned every team at the end of the season. He was lights out, and will be again this season. And he is good enough that he can make a difference in the outcome of a game, especially close ones.

 

[PlayerRep]

So, we go from 5-6 to 9-3 with the only major personnel change being at QB, yet somehow JJ doesn't "fix' eveything?

i don't think the reason we went 5-6 was completely due to j.j. being out. it also had to do with the talent we lost on defense and a coaching change. we also lost a lot of close games and could've been 7-4 had we broke even in close games instead of going 1-5 in close games. wow, why is this so f'n difficult for anyone to understand? i'll say it one more time....we lost more than just j.j. last year!!! we had two guys get drafted and three first and second all-big sky guys in the secondary that were all seniors. not to mention waldhauser and fetherston and shaw. if you had a pulse at all you'd know that it wasn't all j.j.

also, j.j. won't be playing with a first year coach trying to coach something that isn't his style. and the defense won't be a bunch of first time starters. and the game plan will be run-heavy behind a line that can run block with the best of them. it's not hard to figure out people!!!

Generally true, but you vastly underestimate the impact of not having JJ last year, and underestimate what his role and value will be this season. With JJ, UM would have likely won 2 important early games, i.e. App St and EWU, and that would have had a huge positive impact on the rest of the season.

its exactly true, not generally. j.j.'s passing numbers weren't much better than the trent/shay numbers combined and j.j. had sambrano (indy colts) and moutra. the biggest differences were in the coaching staff...hello????...and on defense, especially in the secondary...see bpsc's post. wake up and smell the

No, it's not "exactly" true.

The head coach had been an asst the prior 2 years in Pflu, so knew the offense. The new OC was familiar with the offense and make some tweeks in it. Most of the other offensive coaches had either been around under Pflu or were familiar with the offense.

UM will likely be run first, but will not necessarily be run heavy. Passing and JJ's running will likely be a big part of the offense.

If you think your number comparison of JJ in 2011 to the 2 qb's in 2012 means that they were even remotely as good as JJ, you are a total football idiot.

The biggest difference was at the qb position. The coaches were not the biggest difference.

Yes, the secondary had a down year, and the secondary the prior year was considerably better. No one disputes that. Yes, Sambrano was very good as a senior. But please don't try to tell us that the Griz don't have speed at receiver. I can't imagine that UM has ever had the speed at receiver that it has this year, looking at the full roster.

 

[PlayerRep]

i don't think the reason we went 5-6 was completely due to j.j. being out. it also had to do with the talent we lost on defense and a coaching change. we also lost a lot of close games and could've been 7-4 had we broke even in close games instead of going 1-5 in close games. wow, why is this so f'n difficult for anyone to understand? i'll say it one more time....we lost more than just j.j. last year!!! we had two guys get drafted and three first and second all-big sky guys in the secondary that were all seniors. not to mention waldhauser and fetherston and shaw. if you had a pulse at all you'd know that it wasn't all j.j.

also, j.j. won't be playing with a first year coach trying to coach something that isn't his style. and the defense won't be a bunch of first time starters. and the game plan will be run-heavy behind a line that can run block with the best of them. it's not hard to figure out people!!!

Generally true, but you vastly underestimate the impact of not having JJ last year, and underestimate what his role and value will be this season. With JJ, UM would have likely won 2 important early games, i.e. App St and EWU, and that would have had a huge positive impact on the rest of the season.

its exactly true, not generally. j.j.'s passing numbers weren't much better than the trent/shay numbers combined and j.j. had sambrano (indy colts) and moutra. the biggest differences were in the coaching staff...hello????...and on defense, especially in the secondary...see bpsc's post. wake up and smell the

You're only looking at his overall stats and not how he improved at the end of the season. JJ was significantly better at the end of the 2011 season. His stats are watered down from the issues at the beginning of the season. He owned every team at the end of the season. He was lights out, and will be again this season. And he is good enough that he can make a difference in the outcome of a game, especially close ones.

How can gg not see the huge difference in JJ's play and production as the season went on, as he gained experience, and as he got healthy.

 

[Grizo406]

Per this thread's title; not counting the kicking game, it's the ONLY thing I'm worried about for the upcoming season...

 

[getgrizzy]

i don't think the reason we went 5-6 was completely due to j.j. being out. it also had to do with the talent we lost on defense and a coaching change. we also lost a lot of close games and could've been 7-4 had we broke even in close games instead of going 1-5 in close games. wow, why is this so f'n difficult for anyone to understand? i'll say it one more time....we lost more than just j.j. last year!!! we had two guys get drafted and three first and second all-big sky guys in the secondary that were all seniors. not to mention waldhauser and fetherston and shaw. if you had a pulse at all you'd know that it wasn't all j.j.

also, j.j. won't be playing with a first year coach trying to coach something that isn't his style. and the defense won't be a bunch of first time starters. and the game plan will be run-heavy behind a line that can run block with the best of them. it's not hard to figure out people!!!

Generally true, but you vastly underestimate the impact of not having JJ last year, and underestimate what his role and value will be this season. With JJ, UM would have likely won 2 important early games, i.e. App St and EWU, and that would have had a huge positive impact on the rest of the season.

its exactly true, not generally. j.j.'s passing numbers weren't much better than the trent/shay numbers combined and j.j. had sambrano (indy colts) and moutra. the biggest differences were in the coaching staff...hello????...and on defense, especially in the secondary...see bpsc's post. wake up and smell the

You're only looking at his overall stats and not how he improved at the end of the season. JJ was significantly better at the end of the 2011 season. His stats are watered down from the issues at the beginning of the season. He owned every team at the end of the season. He was lights out, and will be again this season. And he is good enough that he can make a difference in the outcome of a game, especially close ones.

you better take another look at his stats (game-by-game) at the end of the season. he had a great statistical game vs. a mediocre w.s.u. and a truly great game vs. northern iowa. the others not so much.
vs. western oregon 11-16-0 0 tds, 103 yards; 3-5 rushing
vs. m.s.u. 15-31-0 2 tds, 164 yards; 4-27
vs. cent. ark. 16-24-2 2 tds, 135 yards; 6-26
vs. s.h.s.u. 21-33-1 1 td, 277 yards; 11-64, td
total: 63-104-3 5 tds, 679 yards passer rating: 125.5....wow! 24-122, 1 td good. clearly this isn't "lights out" now is it. the defense and run game did more to win the m.s.u. (special teams were great in this game), cent. ark. and get us back in the s.h.s.u. than j.j.'s "lights out" play. get real.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Generally true, but you vastly underestimate the impact of not having JJ last year, and underestimate what his role and value will be this season. With JJ, UM would have likely won 2 important early games, i.e. App St and EWU, and that would have had a huge positive impact on the rest of the season.

its exactly true, not generally. j.j.'s passing numbers weren't much better than the trent/shay numbers combined and j.j. had sambrano (indy colts) and moutra. the biggest differences were in the coaching staff...hello????...and on defense, especially in the secondary...see bpsc's post. wake up and smell the

You're only looking at his overall stats and not how he improved at the end of the season. JJ was significantly better at the end of the 2011 season. His stats are watered down from the issues at the beginning of the season. He owned every team at the end of the season. He was lights out, and will be again this season. And he is good enough that he can make a difference in the outcome of a game, especially close ones.

you better take another look at his stats (game-by-game) at the end of the season. he had a great statistical game vs. a mediocre w.s.u. and a truly great game vs. northern iowa. the others not so much.
vs. western oregon 11-16-0 0 tds, 103 yards; 3-5 rushing
vs. m.s.u. 15-31-0 2 tds, 164 yards; 4-27
vs. cent. ark. 16-24-2 2 tds, 135 yards; 6-26
vs. s.h.s.u. 21-33-1 1 td, 277 yards; 11-64, td
total: 63-104-3 5 tds, 679 yards passer rating: 125.5....wow! 24-122, 1 td good. clearly this isn't "lights out" now is it. the defense and run game did more to win the m.s.u. (special teams were great in this game), cent. ark. and get us back in the s.h.s.u. than j.j.'s "lights out" play. get real.

Question: Who got us OUT of the game against SHSU?

Question #2: Did the Defense lead the Griz to 28 points after digging the deep hole?

 

[CV Griz Fan]

its exactly true, not generally. j.j.'s passing numbers weren't much better than the trent/shay numbers combined and j.j. had sambrano (indy colts) and moutra. the biggest differences were in the coaching staff...hello????...and on defense, especially in the secondary...see bpsc's post. wake up and smell the

You're only looking at his overall stats and not how he improved at the end of the season. JJ was significantly better at the end of the 2011 season. His stats are watered down from the issues at the beginning of the season. He owned every team at the end of the season. He was lights out, and will be again this season. And he is good enough that he can make a difference in the outcome of a game, especially close ones.

you better take another look at his stats (game-by-game) at the end of the season. he had a great statistical game vs. a mediocre w.s.u. and a truly great game vs. northern iowa. the others not so much.
vs. western oregon 11-16-0 0 tds, 103 yards; 3-5 rushing
vs. m.s.u. 15-31-0 2 tds, 164 yards; 4-27
vs. cent. ark. 16-24-2 2 tds, 135 yards; 6-26
vs. s.h.s.u. 21-33-1 1 td, 277 yards; 11-64, td
total: <a href="tel:63-104-3 5">63-104-3 5</a> tds, 679 yards passer rating: 125.5....wow! 24-122, 1 td good. clearly this isn't "lights out" now is it. the defense and run game did more to win the m.s.u. (special teams were great in this game), cent. ark. and get us back in the s.h.s.u. than j.j.'s "lights out" play. get real.

Question: Who got us OUT of the game against SHSU?

Question #2: Did the Defense lead the Griz to 28 points after digging the deep hole?

Anybody that watched the tape from that SHSU game has to admit that it wasn't a great defensive effort on the part of the Griz. Some current Griz defenders probably want that game film burned because it was so bad. Other than the interception return for the TD, what was there? A lot of missed tackles and bad angles. The Griz D even had a chance to stop SHSU late in the game to get the ball back but couldn't rise up. That last run by SHSU to "seal it"on short yardage was brutal.

 

[AZGrizFan]

You're only looking at his overall stats and not how he improved at the end of the season. JJ was significantly better at the end of the 2011 season. His stats are watered down from the issues at the beginning of the season. He owned every team at the end of the season. He was lights out, and will be again this season. And he is good enough that he can make a difference in the outcome of a game, especially close ones.

you better take another look at his stats (game-by-game) at the end of the season. he had a great statistical game vs. a mediocre w.s.u. and a truly great game vs. northern iowa. the others not so much.
vs. western oregon 11-16-0 0 tds, 103 yards; 3-5 rushing
vs. m.s.u. 15-31-0 2 tds, 164 yards; 4-27
vs. cent. ark. 16-24-2 2 tds, 135 yards; 6-26
vs. s.h.s.u. 21-33-1 1 td, 277 yards; 11-64, td
total: <a href="tel:63-104-3 5">63-104-3 5</a> tds, 679 yards passer rating: 125.5....wow! 24-122, 1 td good. clearly this isn't "lights out" now is it. the defense and run game did more to win the m.s.u. (special teams were great in this game), cent. ark. and get us back in the s.h.s.u. than j.j.'s "lights out" play. get real.

Question: Who got us OUT of the game against SHSU?

Question #2: Did the Defense lead the Griz to 28 points after digging the deep hole?

Anybody that watched the tape from that SHSU game has to admit that it wasn't a great defensive effort on the part of the Griz. Some current Griz defenders probably want that game film burned because it was so bad. Other than the interception return for the TD, what was there? A lot of missed tackles and bad angles. The Griz D even had a chance to stop SHSU late in the game to get the ball back but couldn't rise up. That last run by SHSU to "seal it"on short yardage was brutal.

Yep. We were in that game in spite of the defense, and BECAUSE of JJ.

 

[PlayerRep]

Generally true, but you vastly underestimate the impact of not having JJ last year, and underestimate what his role and value will be this season. With JJ, UM would have likely won 2 important early games, i.e. App St and EWU, and that would have had a huge positive impact on the rest of the season.

its exactly true, not generally. j.j.'s passing numbers weren't much better than the trent/shay numbers combined and j.j. had sambrano (indy colts) and moutra. the biggest differences were in the coaching staff...hello????...and on defense, especially in the secondary...see bpsc's post. wake up and smell the

You're only looking at his overall stats and not how he improved at the end of the season. JJ was significantly better at the end of the 2011 season. His stats are watered down from the issues at the beginning of the season. He owned every team at the end of the season. He was lights out, and will be again this season. And he is good enough that he can make a difference in the outcome of a game, especially close ones.

you better take another look at his stats (game-by-game) at the end of the season. he had a great statistical game vs. a mediocre w.s.u. and a truly great game vs. northern iowa. the others not so much.
vs. western oregon 11-16-0 0 tds, 103 yards; 3-5 rushing
vs. m.s.u. 15-31-0 2 tds, 164 yards; 4-27
vs. cent. ark. 16-24-2 2 tds, 135 yards; 6-26
vs. s.h.s.u. 21-33-1 1 td, 277 yards; 11-64, td
total: 63-104-3 5 tds, 679 yards passer rating: 125.5....wow! 24-122, 1 td good. clearly this isn't "lights out" now is it. the defense and run game did more to win the m.s.u. (special teams were great in this game), cent. ark. and get us back in the s.h.s.u. than j.j.'s "lights out" play. get real.

I watched the games. I attended the games. Not one single Griz fan will agree with you that JJ was not terrific starting with the Weber game. The stats are inconsequential to what JJ was doing on the field and for the team.

You don't even go to the games, do you? That's explains part of your stupidity.

Is there any Griz fan who wants to step up now and say that JJ didn't have a great season starting with the Weber game?

 

[PlayerRep]

you better take another look at his stats (game-by-game) at the end of the season. he had a great statistical game vs. a mediocre w.s.u. and a truly great game vs. northern iowa. the others not so much.
vs. western oregon 11-16-0 0 tds, 103 yards; 3-5 rushing
vs. m.s.u. 15-31-0 2 tds, 164 yards; 4-27
vs. cent. ark. 16-24-2 2 tds, 135 yards; 6-26
vs. s.h.s.u. 21-33-1 1 td, 277 yards; 11-64, td
total: <a href="tel:63-104-3 5">63-104-3 5</a> tds, 679 yards passer rating: 125.5....wow! 24-122, 1 td good. clearly this isn't "lights out" now is it. the defense and run game did more to win the m.s.u. (special teams were great in this game), cent. ark. and get us back in the s.h.s.u. than j.j.'s "lights out" play. get real.

Question: Who got us OUT of the game against SHSU?

Question #2: Did the Defense lead the Griz to 28 points after digging the deep hole?

Anybody that watched the tape from that SHSU game has to admit that it wasn't a great defensive effort on the part of the Griz. Some current Griz defenders probably want that game film burned because it was so bad. Other than the interception return for the TD, what was there? A lot of missed tackles and bad angles. The Griz D even had a chance to stop SHSU late in the game to get the ball back but couldn't rise up. That last run by SHSU to "seal it"on short yardage was brutal.

Yep. We were in that game in spite of the defense, and BECAUSE of JJ.

You are so right, with that comment.