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HelenaHandBasket said:
AZGrizFan said:
But an ill/sick LJ cost us the Idaho game. And apparently our backups suck so bad that a sick/ill/injured LJ is still considered a better option (see Idaho, MSU, et. Al.)

Still can't pin that on the backup.

Either way. It’s weird how one team has a backup that can lead the team to victories. The other team, not so much.
 
mthoopsfan said:
hm.grwn.grizfan said:
:lol: ok. That’s an excuse, and those are like assholes. At the end of the day they won, the Griz didn’t, and UM has yet to win a game against a good team. They have a chance this weekend, and I’ll be cheering my ass off as always. I watched all of SEMOs game vs SIU. I think they’re a fairly good team. We shall see if the Griz can get it done. Just don’t get mad at people whose expectation is a championship and beating top teams regularly when the head coach is the one who set those expectations (#RTD?!). He and the rest of the homer media pundits around him spent all last spring and all fall telling us how deep the team was, how there were “no weaknesses” (Haucks exact words), and how our defense was probably the best in FCS, so you’ll forgive us fans that scratch our heads when a team rushes for upwards of 500 yards and doesn’t have to punt, and had us down 55-7 or 55-14 at one point in the game. You’ll also forgive us for scrutinizing the supporting staff and their recruiting strategy when the team, minus one player (even if it’s the QB), can’t win a game against a team with a winning record.

No, it's not an excuse. It's the reality of the situation. It's the reason the Griz are rated so high, got into the playoffs, and are ranked in the top half dozen by Vegas for chances of winning the championship. Excuses (and nonsense) is what keeps coming out of you and posters like you.

The fellas on the GFP who know how Vegas odds work (Nuanez and Schmidt) delved into why Vegas had us as decent odds to win it, and it’s not at all why you think.
 
AZGrizFan said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
Still can't pin that on the backup.

Either way. It’s weird how one team has a backup that can lead the team to victories. The other team, not so much.

You never know until you need to use them. But one big issue is Brown can't run the same offense that Johnson or Britt are capable. I am not sure if the Griz don't have one that can win, but it is pretty certain they have one that until recently, they didn't trust to win.
 
AZGrizFan said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
I would really only say 0-2 with the backup, Sac and Weber.

But an ill/sick LJ cost us the Idaho game. And apparently our backups suck so bad that a sick/ill/injured LJ is still considered a better option (see Idaho, MSU, et. Al.)

You think MSU could win without their starting QB? I sure do. The way they ran the ball down their throats they could have thrown in any of their WRs or RBs to run the offense as the QB and still would have ran all over our defense.
 
hm.grwn.grizfan said:
mthoopsfan said:
No, it's not an excuse. It's the reality of the situation. It's the reason the Griz are rated so high, got into the playoffs, and are ranked in the top half dozen by Vegas for chances of winning the championship. Excuses (and nonsense) is what keeps coming out of you and posters like you.

The fellas on the GFP who know how Vegas odds work (Nuanez and Schmidt) delved into why Vegas had us as decent odds to win it, and it’s not at all why you think.

This guy already has his bracket filled out!

https://www-ncaa-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.ncaa.com/news/football/article/2022-11-20/fcs-playoff-bracket-predictions-picks-every-fcs-playoff-game-and-round?amp=&amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=16691491640404&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ncaa.com%2Fnews%2Ffootball%2Farticle%2F2022-11-20%2Ffcs-playoff-bracket-predictions-picks-every-fcs-playoff-game-and-round
 
hm.grwn.grizfan said:
AZGrizFan said:
But an ill/sick LJ cost us the Idaho game. And apparently our backups suck so bad that a sick/ill/injured LJ is still considered a better option (see Idaho, MSU, et. Al.)

You think MSU could win without their starting QB? I sure do. The way they ran the ball down their throats they could have thrown in any of their WRs or RBs to run the offense as the QB and still would have ran all over our defense.

Not only CAN they, they DID.
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
AZGrizFan said:
Either way. It’s weird how one team has a backup that can lead the team to victories. The other team, not so much.

You never know until you need to use them. But one big issue is Brown can't run the same offense that Johnson or Britt are capable. I am not sure if the Griz don't have one that can win, but it is pretty certain they have one that until recently, they didn't trust to win.

Which IMHO is an indictment of the coaching staff and not the player.
 
AZGrizFan said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
Still can't pin that on the backup.

Either way. It’s weird how one team has a backup that can lead the team to victories. The other team, not so much.


Which FCS schools have had backup qb's lead them to wins over top 5 teams this season?
 
hm.grwn.grizfan said:
mthoopsfan said:
No, it's not an excuse. It's the reality of the situation. It's the reason the Griz are rated so high, got into the playoffs, and are ranked in the top half dozen by Vegas for chances of winning the championship. Excuses (and nonsense) is what keeps coming out of you and posters like you.

The fellas on the GFP who know how Vegas odds work (Nuanez and Schmidt) delved into why Vegas had us as decent odds to win it, and it’s not at all why you think.

Okay, then tell us what it is. And how do you know what people think?
 
mthoopsfan said:
AZGrizFan said:
Either way. It’s weird how one team has a backup that can lead the team to victories. The other team, not so much.


Which FCS schools have had backup qb's lead them to wins over top 5 teams this season?

Which teams on our schedule would our backup have been able to lead our team to a win this season?
 
mthoopsfan said:
AZGrizFan said:
Either way. It’s weird how one team has a backup that can lead the team to victories. The other team, not so much.


Which FCS schools have had backup qb's lead them to wins over top 5 teams this season?

Off the top of my head, I only know one. Didn’t MSU beat Weber with their backup chambers? Man it must be nice to have more than one guy that can competently run the offense
 
AZGrizFan said:
mthoopsfan said:
Which FCS schools have had backup qb's lead them to wins over top 5 teams this season?

Which teams on our schedule would our backup have been able to lead our team to a win this season?

If you're referencing Britt I would say all of them. If you're referencing Brown I would say none of them.
 
indiancoyote said:
AZGrizFan said:
Which teams on our schedule would our backup have been able to lead our team to a win this season?

If you're referencing Britt I would say all of them. If you're referencing Brown I would say none of them.

I’m not gonna lie, our QB went down at the worst possible times this season. But that does NOT change the fact that a competent backup would have pulled at least a couple victories out of those games, given how well the defense played. Four losses, to the four best teams on our schedule, and our starting QB was either injured, sick or didn’t play at all. Again, that’s an indictment of the coaching staff, not the player.
 
AZGrizFan said:
indiancoyote said:
If you're referencing Britt I would say all of them. If you're referencing Brown I would say none of them.

I’m not gonna lie, our QB went down at the worst possible times this season. But that does NOT change the fact that a competent backup would have pulled at least a couple victories out of those games, given how well the defense played. Four losses, to the four best teams on our schedule, and our starting QB was either injured, sick or didn’t play at all. Again, that’s an indictment of the coaching staff, not the player.

But it's just a misdemeanor.
 
mthoopsfan said:
AZGrizFan said:
I’m not gonna lie, our QB went down at the worst possible times this season. But that does NOT change the fact that a competent backup would have pulled at least a couple victories out of those games, given how well the defense played. Four losses, to the four best teams on our schedule, and our starting QB was either injured, sick or didn’t play at all. Again, that’s an indictment of the coaching staff, not the player.

But it's just a misdemeanor.

Sure, if your expectation is based on 10 wins a season. My bar is higher. Thus, it’s at least a Class E felony.
 
AZGrizFan said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
You never know until you need to use them. But one big issue is Brown can't run the same offense that Johnson or Britt are capable. I am not sure if the Griz don't have one that can win, but it is pretty certain they have one that until recently, they didn't trust to win.

Which IMHO is an indictment of the coaching staff and not the player.

Or the players involved.
 
indiancoyote said:
AZGrizFan said:
Which teams on our schedule would our backup have been able to lead our team to a win this season?

If you're referencing Britt I would say all of them. If you're referencing Brown I would say none of them.

I would argue that Brown could not and that with Britt, who knows.
 
AZGrizFan said:
But that does NOT change the fact that a competent backup would have pulled at least a couple victories out of those games, given how well the defense played.

Pure speculation. Could he have, maybe, but would he have, who knows.
 
AZGrizFan said:
indiancoyote said:
If you're referencing Britt I would say all of them. If you're referencing Brown I would say none of them.

I’m not gonna lie, our QB went down at the worst possible times this season. But that does NOT change the fact that a competent backup would have pulled at least a couple victories out of those games, given how well the defense played. Four losses, to the four best teams on our schedule, and our starting QB was either injured, sick or didn’t play at all. Again, that’s an indictment of the coaching staff, not the player.

Pretty sure it could be an indictment of both.
 
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