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[Griz Man]

Either of those would have posed a different game at NDSU, but also would have required the different QB.

But it would have been really tough benching Brady after the run he'd had to get us that far.

 

[spsyk]

Take a list of posters who think that Stitt was a bad hire...

spsyk
kemajic
75
all Cat fans...

Griz57000
Bobby H.
Willy P.

Ya know, most of the poster that blindly support coach Still, also believed that Willy P was the next Dave Dickinson, without him ever playing in a FSC game, now, it goes to show you that you don't know much about athletes, since coach Stitt cut his ass without him every playing a game, it lead me to believe you don't know much about what makes a good coach.

Now arguably this is suppose to be the best recruiting class in the history of Griz football, again without the athletes never being in a college game, however recruited by coach Stitt so that makes this the best recruiting class.

Now,with losing the majority of the starters on defense, the DC and the most respected assistant gone,we will more than likely have DC with about the same creditals as the head coach and OC.

I think it's going to take coach Stitt a little longer than all of you and coach Stitt think it going to take to bring the Griz back to where we all want it to be, if ever.

 

[get'em_griz]

Take a list of posters who think that Stitt was a bad hire...

spsyk
kemajic
75
all Cat fans...

Griz57000
Bobby H.
Willy P.

Ya know, most of the poster that blindly support coach Still, also believed that Willy P was the next Dave Dickinson, without him ever playing in a FSC game, now, it goes to show you that you don't know much about athletes, since coach Stitt cut his ass without him every playing a game, it lead me to believe you don't know much about what makes a good coach.

Now arguably this is suppose to be the best recruiting class in the history of Griz football, again without the athletes never being in a college game, however recruited by coach Stitt so that makes this the best recruiting class.

Now,with losing the majority of the starters on defense, the DC and the most respected assistant gone,we will more than likely have DC with about the same creditals as the head coach and OC.

I think it's going to take coach Stitt a little longer than all of you and coach Stitt think it going to take to bring the Griz back to where we all want it to be, if ever.

Way to be optimistic. :thumb:

 

[grizindabox]

Take a list of posters who think that Stitt was a bad hire...

spsyk
kemajic
75
all Cat fans...

Griz57000
Bobby H.
Willy P.

Ya know, most of the poster that blindly support coach Still, also believed that Willy P was the next Dave Dickinson, without him ever playing in a FSC game, now, it goes to show you that you don't know much about athletes, since coach Stitt cut his ass without him every playing a game, it lead me to believe you don't know much about what makes a good coach.

Now arguably this is suppose to be the best recruiting class in the history of Griz football, again without the athletes never being in a college game, however recruited by coach Stitt so that makes this the best recruiting class.

Now,with losing the majority of the starters on defense, the DC and the most respected assistant gone,we will more than likely have DC with about the same creditals as the head coach and OC.

I think it's going to take coach Stitt a little longer than all of you and coach Stitt think it going to take to bring the Griz back to where we all want it to be, if ever.

I think that would be an issue no matter who the coach is......

 

[spsyk]

spsyk
kemajic
75
all Cat fans...

Griz57000
Bobby H.
Willy P.

Ya know, most of the poster that blindly support coach Still, also believed that Willy P was the next Dave Dickinson, without him ever playing in a FSC game, now, it goes to show you that you don't know much about athletes, since coach Stitt cut his ass without him every playing a game, it lead me to believe you don't know much about what makes a good coach.

Now arguably this is suppose to be the best recruiting class in the history of Griz football, again without the athletes never being in a college game, however recruited by coach Stitt so that makes this the best recruiting class.

Now,with losing the majority of the starters on defense, the DC and the most respected assistant gone,we will more than likely have DC with about the same creditals as the head coach and OC.

I think it's going to take coach Stitt a little longer than all of you and coach Stitt think it going to take to bring the Griz back to where we all want it to be, if ever.

Way to be optimistic. :thumb:

Optimism, to me is like good luck, luck does not exist, be prepared for opportunity does, and that is the definition of good luck.

I'll give you this, the Griz team of 2015, was loaded with IMO good athletes, good enough to win the Big Sky, beat the Cats and make the playoffs, accomplished all except win the Big Sky, and again IMO games won because of good athletes, not outstanding offensive coaching, and credit for the defense in winning a game or two.

IMO coach Stitt really showed his color, about the tweet on BG, without including his own ineptness in producing 4 yards rushing and 6 points, not sure if that is all BG fault, prepardiness for the NDSU was the coaches responsibility, and that was lacking.

I will admit, I was not high on the Stitt hire, however being a fan has nothing to do with who is and who isn't hired,although this is not a safe zone,which you optimist can suppress the opinions of those not sold yet on this coach.

And if anything, watching the offense this year I am more worried than I was at the start of 2015.

That does not mean I don't want the best for the program, because I do, looking over your stats on games that you have attended, well, I have had four seats in WG since its inception, going on 30 years and seats at Dornblazer and make the majority of the road games, and followed coaches from Swarthout to Stitts, and the progression of coaches got better and better, and I feel IMO with coach Stitt the jury is still out, and if I am wrong about him, I will be the first to admit it, and I hope if those believers are found to be wrong will they ever be able to admit it.

 

[fanofzoo]

Remember when Stitt was being hired and all the talk was "stitt happens" and how I am going to kick ass. Well if you want to talk the talk you have to walk the walk.

Did I get that right?

 

[Griz Man]

the Griz team of 2015, was loaded with IMO good athletes, good enough to win the Big Sky, beat the Cats and make the playoffs, accomplished all except win the Big Sky, and again IMO games won because of good athletes, not outstanding offensive coaching, and credit for the defense in winning a game or two

My hat's off to the Griz players and especially the D for playing their hearts out and making it a successful season. But your post is wrong: QB, RB, and offensive line were all big question marks coming into the season. We beat 2 teams, NDSU and SDSU, that probably had better and bigger athletes than we did. I'm not sure that last year's Griz team (with Delaney and JJ) would have beaten SDSU - we'll never know, of course...

Stitt did just fine, considering it was his first year.

 

[Griz Man]

Remember when Stitt was being hired and all the talk was "stitt happens" and how I am going to kick ass. Well if you want to talk the talk you have to walk the walk.

Did I get that right?

I think it was a pretty good first season. Do you see any reason for Stitt or the team to hang their heads, or for Stitt to retract his words?

 

[grizindabox]

I'll give you this, the Griz team of 2015, was loaded with IMO good athletes, good enough to win the Big Sky, beat the Cats and make the playoffs, accomplished all except win the Big Sky, and again IMO games won because of good athletes, not outstanding offensive coaching, and credit for the defense in winning a game or two.

IMO coach Stitt really showed his color, about the tweet on BG, without including his own ineptness in producing 4 yards rushing and 6 points, not sure if that is all BG fault, prepardiness for the NDSU was the coaches responsibility, and that was lacking.

And if anything, watching the offense this year I am more worried than I was at the start of 2015.

I think Stitt's offense puts a lot of the load on the QB, and injuries and poor play from that position was a big part of why the offense was so inconsistent....Will he find a QB capable to run his system...I say yes, but even his time at CSM tells you he was not able to find one all the time....as for the Griz rushing game at UNDSU....the OL got its ass handed to them....and for everyone asking why he didn't change QB's....no reason to play a guy you don't see on the roster next year...

 

[spsyk]

the Griz team of 2015, was loaded with IMO good athletes, good enough to win the Big Sky, beat the Cats and make the playoffs, accomplished all except win the Big Sky, and again IMO games won because of good athletes, not outstanding offensive coaching, and credit for the defense in winning a game or two

My hat's off to the Griz players and especially the D for playing their hearts out and making it a successful season. But your post is wrong: QB, RB, and offensive line were all big question marks coming into the season. We beat 2 teams, NDSU and SDSU, that probably had better and bigger athletes than we did. I'm not sure that last year's Griz team (with Delaney and JJ) would have beaten SDSU - we'll never know, of course...

Stitt did just fine, considering it was his first year.

Look part of being a great coach is dealing with the cards you are dealt, case in point PSU Bruce Barnum first year HC inherited a team that has done nothing for years, his first year he is Big Sky Coach of the year, didn't win the Big Sky although beat the team that did.

That is playing with the cards that you are dealt.

So, what you are saying then, is that coach Stitt will fix the problems that you have pointed out, and the Griz are on their way next season ?

 

[spsyk]

I'll give you this, the Griz team of 2015, was loaded with IMO good athletes, good enough to win the Big Sky, beat the Cats and make the playoffs, accomplished all except win the Big Sky, and again IMO games won because of good athletes, not outstanding offensive coaching, and credit for the defense in winning a game or two.

IMO coach Stitt really showed his color, about the tweet on BG, without including his own ineptness in producing 4 yards rushing and 6 points, not sure if that is all BG fault, prepardiness for the NDSU was the coaches responsibility, and that was lacking.

And if anything, watching the offense this year I am more worried than I was at the start of 2015.

I think Stitt's offense puts a lot of the load on the QB, and injuries and poor play from that position was a big part of why the offense was so inconsistent....Will he find a QB capable to run his system...I say yes, but even his time at CSM tells you he was not able to find one all the time....as for the Griz rushing game at UNDSU....the OL got its ass handed to them....and for everyone asking why he didn't change QB's....no reason to play a guy you don't see on the roster next year...

All season long poster stated Willy P will be the answer for 2016, how that working out ?

 

[Griz Man]

So, what you are saying then, is that coach Stitt will fix the problems that you have pointed out, and the Griz are on their way next season ?

I'm not denying there have been hiccups, but both Stitt's system/coaching as well as the recruiting show promise. Stitt's system, with its emphasis on quick reads and accuracy, is heavily dependent on QB play. I think Brady will be even better next year, our OL and RB's will be better next year, and I have faith that Stitt will have someone really good to step in at QB after Brady.

 

[grizindabox]

the Griz team of 2015, was loaded with IMO good athletes, good enough to win the Big Sky, beat the Cats and make the playoffs, accomplished all except win the Big Sky, and again IMO games won because of good athletes, not outstanding offensive coaching, and credit for the defense in winning a game or two

My hat's off to the Griz players and especially the D for playing their hearts out and making it a successful season. But your post is wrong: QB, RB, and offensive line were all big question marks coming into the season. We beat 2 teams, NDSU and SDSU, that probably had better and bigger athletes than we did. I'm not sure that last year's Griz team (with Delaney and JJ) would have beaten SDSU - we'll never know, of course...

Stitt did just fine, considering it was his first year.

Look part of being a great coach is dealing with the cards you are dealt, case in point PSU Bruce Barnum first year HC inherited a team that has done nothing for years, his first year he is Big Sky Coach of the year, didn't win the Big Sky although beat the team that did.

That is playing with the cards that you are dealt.

So, what you are saying then, is that coach Stitt will fix the problems that you have pointed out, and the Griz are on their way next season ?

Maybe the cards Barnum was dealt meshes much closer to what he wants to do than the cards that Stitt had.....granted, maybe Stitt was unable to tweak what he knows enough that it worked with the cards he had...but does this mean he can't succeed when he gets different cards.....I also think that the PSU season was an exception to the norm....how many guys win Championships with another coaches recruits.....I would venture to guess that most, even Urban Meyer, had to get his kids into the system before winning the big one...especially if the new coach was not a member of the previous staff....

 

[grizindabox]

I'll give you this, the Griz team of 2015, was loaded with IMO good athletes, good enough to win the Big Sky, beat the Cats and make the playoffs, accomplished all except win the Big Sky, and again IMO games won because of good athletes, not outstanding offensive coaching, and credit for the defense in winning a game or two.

IMO coach Stitt really showed his color, about the tweet on BG, without including his own ineptness in producing 4 yards rushing and 6 points, not sure if that is all BG fault, prepardiness for the NDSU was the coaches responsibility, and that was lacking.

And if anything, watching the offense this year I am more worried than I was at the start of 2015.

I think Stitt's offense puts a lot of the load on the QB, and injuries and poor play from that position was a big part of why the offense was so inconsistent....Will he find a QB capable to run his system...I say yes, but even his time at CSM tells you he was not able to find one all the time....as for the Griz rushing game at UNDSU....the OL got its ass handed to them....and for everyone asking why he didn't change QB's....no reason to play a guy you don't see on the roster next year...

All season long poster stated Willy P will be the answer for 2016, how that working out ?

What does that have to do with Stitt.....are you saying he posts on egriz.....

 

[grizindabox]

I would also add that Barnum brought in a drop down to play QB...to run what he wanted to do.....

 

[spsyk]

So, what you are saying then, is that coach Stitt will fix the problems that you have pointed out, and the Griz are on their way next season ?

I'm not denying there have been hiccups, but both Stitt's system/coaching as well as the recruiting show promise. Stitt's system, with its emphasis on quick reads and accuracy, is heavily dependent on QB play. I think Brady will be even better next year, our OL and RB's will be better next year, and I have faith that Stitt will have someone really good to step in at QB after Brady.

Look, all the great coaches keep it simple and make sure athletes execute, case in point NDSU four NC in a row, every DC knows what coming, and can't do nothing about it, because it is simple and well executed.

Putting the load on one skill player to run your offensive QB is a disaster waiting to happen, exciting for the fans however seldom wins NC as smash mouth football with a dynamic defense.

 

[spsyk]

I would also add that Barnum brought in a drop down to play QB...to run what he wanted to do.....

Again what a good coach does, didn't coach Stitt know what he had as far as athletes

 

[UMGriz75]

Either of those would have posed a different game at NDSU, but also would have required the different QB.

But it would have been really tough benching Brady after the run he'd had to get us that far.

It obviously was "tough" because he didn't do it. As I noted several weeks ago, this coach is going to play his playbook, results be damned. The ISU game represented an excellent alternative strategy. One again, Simis made rushers look good and led them himself. He did a great job of the zone read; and a really nice job of executing the run game; the best of any UM QB this season. They ran up points.

Only when Stitt decided (again) to save the lead and go conservative, did that game fall apart.

NDSU had read Stitt's book, and by the end of the first quarter, it was obvious his "air" attack was going nowhere. He had a run game, but he kept it on the bench. Without it, Stitt essentially forfeited the game, the "offense that can beat any defense." In. His. Words.

 

[grizindabox]

I would also add that Barnum brought in a drop down to play QB...to run what he wanted to do.....

Again what a good coach does, didn't coach Stitt know what he had as far as athletes

Once again....maybe Stitt isn't great...maybe Stitt couldn't tweak his offense to match the players....maybe what he inherited for athletes was a little lacking at some positions.....but does this mean that he can not succeed when he is able to fill positions with a player that matches the demands of the position within his offense.....


I want to touch on the athletes again....there were several positions, especially on offense, that the athletes were average or below even for the BSC.....pretty big reason why the offense was inconsistent all season long....

 

[spsyk]

I'll give you this, the Griz team of 2015, was loaded with IMO good athletes, good enough to win the Big Sky, beat the Cats and make the playoffs, accomplished all except win the Big Sky, and again IMO games won because of good athletes, not outstanding offensive coaching, and credit for the defense in winning a game or two.

IMO coach Stitt really showed his color, about the tweet on BG, without including his own ineptness in producing 4 yards rushing and 6 points, not sure if that is all BG fault, prepardiness for the NDSU was the coaches responsibility, and that was lacking.

And if anything, watching the offense this year I am more worried than I was at the start of 2015.

I think Stitt's offense puts a lot of the load on the QB, and injuries and poor play from that position was a big part of why the offense was so inconsistent....Will he find a QB capable to run his system...I say yes, but even his time at CSM tells you he was not able to find one all the time....as for the Griz rushing game at UNDSU....the OL got its ass handed to them....and for everyone asking why he didn't change QB's....no reason to play a guy you don't see on the roster next year...

All season long poster stated Willy P will be the answer for 2016, how that working out ?

What does that have to do with Stitt.....are you saying he posts on egriz.....

Grow up, keep the the dialog on an adult level, nothing was said by me about coach Stitt posting, I was stating a fact that most in this forum where high on Willy P and coach Stitt showed the posters what he thought of him,by cutting him.

And another sore subject about cutting Willy P, why did he wait till the end of the season to do it?