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[grizindabox]

I am also not sure how "mediocre" success at CSM relates to success at another school....but we will find out over the course of the next 2-3 seasons....

 

[spsyk]

Delaney, is old news, retired, however the question remains, how many championships did Stitt win in fifteen years as an offensive genius, in a little better than high school conference ????

Looks to be as many as Hauck and Pflu combined.

Agreed, now let's compare the level of competition, FCS , vs Rocky Mountain Athletic Conference,

Now I am not a Hauck fanboy, however Hauck tenure and the UM vs Stitts at RMofMines, well to be polite Stitt record in not even in the same category.

As far as Robin, he was fired not sure why, although never given the chance that you are willing to give coach Stitt.

you make that argument like all things are equal....which of course they weren't....Hauck took a top program with very few limitations on the athlete's that he could recruit....and some of that is why he didn't get the job this time around...Stitt took a program that didn't have a winning season prior to his arrival and was limited in recruiting not only by admission standards to the school...but by the limitations of what programs are offered....which meant he couldn't even recruit the same kids as the other RMAC schools.....I would also like to share that I don't know if Stitt will succeed at Montana....but the comparisons between what he did at CSM and what BH did at Montana are apples to oranges comparisons....how about we compare what Stitt did at CSM with what BH did at UNLV....

Here's a thought, since Brady drop the ball on not up to the task, having a terrible game, by coach Stitts admission, what do you think about making adjustments, changing QB, and run the "Fly Sweep" would that have generated more than four yards rushing and 6 points in the NDSU playoff game.

Just thought,not a hater, although a realists

 

[spsyk]

I am also not sure how "mediocre" success at CSM relates to success at another school....but we will find out over the course of the next 2-3 seasons....

Now, I assume that you are saying that coach Stitt will have his players in place, and now, have his coaches in placed, to take a run at NDSU unprecedented four in a row NC and possibly five records, or is it going to take a little longer, perhaps fifteen years.

Because, you say 3 seasons, he is one into his three year contract, meaning he going for another three after this contract, just saying

 

[grizindabox]

I am also not sure how "mediocre" success at CSM relates to success at another school....but we will find out over the course of the next 2-3 seasons....

Now, I assume that you are saying that coach Stitt will have his players in place, and now, have his coaches in placed, to take a run at NDSU unprecedented four in a row NC and possibly five records, or is it going to take a little longer, perhaps fifteen years.

Because, you say 3 seasons, he is one into his three year contract, meaning he going for another three after this contract, just saying

Really....you want to bicker over the 2-3 season comment...my assumption is that unless he falls flat on his face over the next 2 seasons....he will probably get more time....like it or not.....

 

[grizindabox]

Looks to be as many as Hauck and Pflu combined.

Agreed, now let's compare the level of competition, FCS , vs Rocky Mountain Athletic Conference,

Now I am not a Hauck fanboy, however Hauck tenure and the UM vs Stitts at RMofMines, well to be polite Stitt record in not even in the same category.

As far as Robin, he was fired not sure why, although never given the chance that you are willing to give coach Stitt.

you make that argument like all things are equal....which of course they weren't....Hauck took a top program with very few limitations on the athlete's that he could recruit....and some of that is why he didn't get the job this time around...Stitt took a program that didn't have a winning season prior to his arrival and was limited in recruiting not only by admission standards to the school...but by the limitations of what programs are offered....which meant he couldn't even recruit the same kids as the other RMAC schools.....I would also like to share that I don't know if Stitt will succeed at Montana....but the comparisons between what he did at CSM and what BH did at Montana are apples to oranges comparisons....how about we compare what Stitt did at CSM with what BH did at UNLV....

Here's a thought, since Brady drop the ball on not up to the task, having a terrible game, by coach Stitts admission, what do you think about making adjustments, changing QB, and run the "Fly Sweep" would that have generated more than four yards rushing and 6 points in the NDSU playoff game.

Just thought,not a hater, although a realists

Not sure the other option at QB....the one-dimensional run guy...would have produced much more in points....Stitt went with the guy on the roster he thought was his best option at winning games....no matter how flawed that guy might be....and nice tongue in cheek jab at the innovative "Fly Sweep"....

 

[stubbins]

God I hate the off season.

Homework assignment to make the time pass.

Take a list of posters who think that Stitt was a bad hire...keep it close and bring it back in 2 or 3 years. Then take note of which posters are big enough humans to say they were wrong, and who keeps arguing.

Thank you.

 

[Griz Man]

Here's a thought, since Brady drop the ball on not up to the task, having a terrible game, by coach Stitts admission, what do you think about making adjustments, changing QB

Stitt stepped in it when he accidentally made this tweet public - does anyone doubt that he he knew it? Talk about a DOH! moment. But it clearly WAS an accident. It will test Brady's mental fortitude, but I think Brady needs Stitt as much as Stitt needs him. Brady was the best QB on the roster for Stitt's system, and had several great games that led to victories (and put up some nice stats along the way). But it's debatable that Brady would have started in another system. I'm glad Stitt is always trying to get better, and I'm sure Brady understands this and will hopefully rise to the challenge, like a true champion would.

 

[AllWeatherFan]

Take a list of posters who think that Stitt was a bad hire...

spsyk
kemajic
75
all Cat fans...

 

[Griz Man]

Except for the fact that he had already talked with BG about his play and told him that he was looking to bring in transfers to compete with him.....nice try though...

And did either of them look at you during this conversation and wonder why you were there?

Didn't Stitt tell the media that he was going to bring in a QB? And don't all coaches critique players after games? I thought this was the definition of coaching.

Not only am I 100% certain that this conversation took place, I'm also certain that Stitt has apologized to Brady for making the accidental tweet. How can I be 100% certain? Because it's what any person with integrity would do? 75, do you assume that people don't have integrity? That's bleak, man...

 

[stubbins]

Take a list of posters who think that Stitt was a bad hire...

spsyk
kemajic
75
all Cat fans...

Griz57000
Bobby H.
Willy P.

 

[UMGriz75]

How many did Delaney win?

Delaney, is old news, retired, however the question remains, how many championships did Stitt win in fifteen years as an offensive genius, in a little better than high school conference ????

Looks to be as many as Hauck and Pflu combined.

Agreed, now let's compare the level of competition, FCS , vs Rocky Mountain Athletic Conference,

Stitt's background is problematic. That's not really a question.

MSU beat Chadron State, 33-6 in 2012, and was sort of a laughingstock for even playing them because we refer to these teams as "high school teams," but then Chadron State beat "Mines" in the same year, 20-14. That was a 4-5 conference season for Coach Stitt. All with his own recruits, the "solid players," his own strategy in place for over a dozen years, the outstanding staff. Western New Mexico (a school with an undergraduate population of 2,800) then plonked School of Mines, 54-28 in the same year. Western New Mexico ended its season with a 4-7 record.

Well, if he can beat "any defense," Chadron State and Western New Mexico ought to qualify. Seriously. These are colleges with enrollments not much larger than Billings West High School.

And he managed that with "His Guys in His System!"

Can you imagine how awful 2012 would have been if he had been coaching somebody else's recruits, you know, the ones with the low IQs that couldn't figure out his system?

A program at the level of UM's is never going to get a "big name." It's always a matter for "bringing someone up" from a lower level, or "over" from another program.

So, the risk is always inherent. The ADs make the best guess they can, and time will tell. As I have mentioned, Gene Carlson was arguably the most successful coach in his prior job UM ever hired, and it didn't work out. He just didn't step "up." Don Read wasn't a particularly successful coach at the collegiate level, but somebody obviously saw "something" in him that turned out epoch-making. Joe Glenn was hugely successful here and then went nowhere.

Stitt's background is more problematic than most hires. His 2012 season at "Mines" was wildly inconsistent, and in that, remarkably similar to this year for the Griz. This year, he wants to blame the Quarterbacks, but what caused the same thing at Mines, then? The single consistent factor in a very inconsistent record is ... the coach.

I think what bothers some is that there is a "hype" that is vastly overstated compared with the actual record, and that hype comes from Stitt himself, amplified by his acolytes and fan flacks. We want a great coach, not a great ego.

The "twitter" controversy arises in part because independent analysts pretty much put the onus for the NDSU debacle on the coaching. The "twitter" suggests that Stitt is blaming his QB, but then doesn't explain why he kept him in the whole game and doesn't explain, as the analysts have pointed out, why Stitt refused to change the game strategy even as it was obviously failing miserably. So there's a disconnect exposed by that tweet, and it is an uncomfortable disconnect because it 1) suggests a venality towards players behind their backs that is inappropriate in collegiate football, and 2) an inability to self-assess failure.

True or not? Time will tell. You always hope for the best. Go Griz!

 

[UMGriz75]

Except for the fact that he had already talked with BG about his play and told him that he was looking to bring in transfers to compete with him.....nice try though...

And did either of them look at you during this conversation and wonder why you were there?

Didn't Stitt tell the media that he was going to bring in a QB? And don't all coaches critique players after games? I thought this was the definition of coaching.

Not only am I 100% certain that this conversation took place, I'm also certain that Stitt has apologized to Brady for making the accidental tweet. How can I be 100% certain? Because it's what any person with integrity would do? 75, do you assume that people don't have integrity? That's bleak, man...

After making a series of self-affirming and self-gratifying assumptions, you are complaining about making assumptions? :roll:

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Do you believe in miracles, YES!

 

[Griz Man]

After making a series of self-affirming and self-gratifying assumptions, you are complaining about making assumptions? :roll:

I believe in innocent until proven guilty. I have no reason to believe that Stitt is the jerk you make him out to be - you've provided insufficient evidence. So until I have reason to believe otherwise, I'll continue to give him the benefit of the doubt. To me, this is the right way and the sane way. You clearly disagree...

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Do you believe in miracles, YES!

Ugh.

 

[Griz Man]

The "twitter" controversy arises in part because independent analysts pretty much put the onus for the NDSU debacle on the coaching. The "twitter" suggests that Stitt is blaming his QB, but then doesn't explain why he kept him in the whole game and doesn't explain, as the analysts have pointed out, why Stitt refused to change the game strategy even as it was obviously failing miserably.

I agree with you that Stitt needs to take more ownership for losses in his press conferences. I get that he believes in his system and feels that players should be executing it better, but I think you're right - he needs to step up and shoulder more of the responsibility for losses. I hope he improves in this regard going forward.

 

[Griz Man]

His 2012 season at "Mines" was wildly inconsistent, and in that, remarkably similar to this year for the Griz. This year, he wants to blame the Quarterbacks, but what caused the same thing at Mines, then? The single consistent factor in a very inconsistent record is ... the coach.

Isn't a passing-based offense always going to be a little more inconsistent than a power running game? But didn't Stitt design his system in part to take on teams that were bigger and stronger than his ? I'll point to the fact that our Stitt-led Montana Grizzlies are one of 5 teams since 2011 to beat NDSU (70-5 record over that stretch). So as comforting as it is to consistently beat up on UC Davis, I think we have to go for the gusto and embrace a system that can knock off the big boys.

CDA, I do believe!

 

[UMGriz75]

After making a series of self-affirming and self-gratifying assumptions, you are complaining about making assumptions? :roll:

I believe in innocent until proven guilty. I have no reason to believe that Stitt is the jerk you make him out to be - you've provided insufficient evidence. So until I have reason to believe otherwise, I'll continue to give him the benefit of the doubt. To me, this is the right way and the sane way. You clearly disagree...

From many years experience, it is easier to do it right than to do it wrong. Coaching is a very "public" undertaking. "Not getting that" is a problem all by itself.

As I have repeatedly said, to caustic response from chest thumpers, the idea of simply being gracious enough to thank somebody publicly and wish them well is not that hard to do, and obviates the impression left when a coach only reposts tweets thanking himself.

As another poster noted, the constant use of the pronoun "I" in team sports, rather than "we," leaves another impression of its own.

 

[Griz Man]

After making a series of self-affirming and self-gratifying assumptions, you are complaining about making assumptions? :roll:

I believe in innocent until proven guilty. I have no reason to believe that Stitt is the jerk you make him out to be - you've provided insufficient evidence. So until I have reason to believe otherwise, I'll continue to give him the benefit of the doubt. To me, this is the right way and the sane way. You clearly disagree...

From many years experience, it is easier to do it right than to do it wrong. Coaching is a very "public" undertaking. "Not getting that" is a problem all by itself.

As I have repeatedly said, to caustic response from chest thumpers, the idea of simply being gracious enough to thank somebody publicly and wish them well is not that hard to do, and obviates the impression left when a coach only reposts tweets thanking himself.

As another poster noted, the constant use of the pronoun "I" in team sports, rather than "we," leaves another impression of its own.

I agree that he can work on his people skills. But I don't see ill will or malevolence. I see a "football nerd", a guy who has his head in the X's and O's and has a strong belief in his system. And he's hyper-competitive and gets caught up in player execution during the games. But I think you're right about the team responding to Stitt shouldering a little more of the load after a loss.

 

[UMGriz75]

His 2012 season at "Mines" was wildly inconsistent, and in that, remarkably similar to this year for the Griz. This year, he wants to blame the Quarterbacks, but what caused the same thing at Mines, then? The single consistent factor in a very inconsistent record is ... the coach.

Isn't a passing-based offense always going to be a little more inconsistent than a power running game?

We had a pretty good running game at ISU, interestingly enough (265 rushing to 169 passing). Something very different, very successful, and Simis did a very good job on his reads. The failure there was the coaching strategy to go "conservative" during the second half. But for that, UM's strategy was one of the more interesting of the season, although not nearly as successful as the "simplified" offense used during the UND game. Either of those would have posed a different game at NDSU, but also would have required the different QB.