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[UMGriz75]

Were you this down on Delaney too? Because he'd never been a head coach at ALL when he was given the keys to the caddy.

Interestingly, other than his endorsement by previous Griz head coaches, and Chase Reynolds who spoke very highly of Mick, I had no opinion because Mick had no record of touting himself and making specific claims about what he thought he could do.

It's one thing to set expectations for a team; that's a coach's job. It's something else to set public expectations by making relatively bold and specific claims about what you think about yourself.

When you do that, you risk being judged by them.

 

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[horribilisfan8184]

Were you this down on Delaney too? Because he'd never been a head coach at ALL when he was given the keys to the caddy.

Interestingly, other than his endorsement by previous Griz head coaches, and Chase Reynolds who spoke very highly of Mick, I had no opinion because Mick had no record of touting himself and making specific claims about what he thought he could do.

It's one thing to set expectations for a team; that's a coach's job. It's something else to set public expectations by making relatively bold and specific claims about what you think about yourself.

When you do that, you risk being judged by them.

Wrong. Mick was head coach at UM Western for two years after being AD and had two losing seasons, well under .500, and at a level below D-2.

 

[grizindabox]

NDSU wins because they have the biggest and best athletes AND they keep it simple.

We had a lengthy thread about this mid-season, and the virtues of "simple" strategies after the "simplified offense" worked so well against UND.

There were a few who pointed to the virtues of such strategies, based on superior execution. There was a rather larger number of the usual vitrolic posters who pointed to the virtues of "game tapes" that exposed the weaknesses of "simple strategies," and therefore worked in favor of the virtues of Stitt's approach which, for reasons beyond me, is considered "complex" and therefore just the ticket for an "offense that can beat every defense" even though when employed against such powerhouses as Chadron State and Western New Mexico, it failed dismally to do so.

Even as that thread descended into the usual ad hominem sparring that accompanies any effort to discuss reality as opposed to a peculiar form of blinkered coach adulation that infects otherwise rational adult males, it was an interesting discussion of "strategy" vs "execution" and the interplay of "coaching" and "athlete skill."

The post above posits that success, in the case of NDSU, requires a trifecta of the biggest AND the best AND a simple strategy. If a team has the "biggest" and the "best" athletes, I'm not sure that they could fail no matter the strategy, but assuming a team can rarely achieve all three vs every opponent, what combination of 2 of 3 can make for a winning team?

NDSU continues to demonstrate that a clean, simple strategy, well done, wins. Or is size simply the ultimate determining factor? What does "best" actually mean in combination with position coaching skill?

If referring to me....it was more that game tape exposed player tendencies....strengths and weaknesses....never once made mention of "simple strategies" being exposed....unless you mean Stitt dumbing down the offense for Simis.....which worked great in his first game....you know....until teams had tape on him....and any offense is about execution...no matter how simple or complex...

 

[UMGriz75]

Were you this down on Delaney too? Because he'd never been a head coach at ALL when he was given the keys to the caddy.

Interestingly, other than his endorsement by previous Griz head coaches, and Chase Reynolds who spoke very highly of Mick, I had no opinion because Mick had no record of touting himself and making specific claims about what he thought he could do.

It's one thing to set expectations for a team; that's a coach's job. It's something else to set public expectations by making relatively bold and specific claims about what you think about yourself.

When you do that, you risk being judged by them.

Wrong. Mick was head coach at UM Western for two years after being AD and had two losing seasons, well under .500, and at a level below D-2.

"Wrong" what? I pointed out above, in response to a claim he had never been head coach, with the observation that he had, in fact, previously been a head coach. Nothing more, nothing less.

Bob Stitt had a four season run of 1-7, 4-4, 4-4, and 4-4 at Mines, and two additional years of 2-6 and 4-5. Mick was 3-5 his first year as head coach at Western, Bob Stitt was 1-7 at Mines. What's your point?

And, in fact, I did not have an opinion on Delaney one way or the other when he was appointed head coach. Losing Pflu was a blow to the program, and JJ's ordeal was a considerable distraction. Hauck thought Mick was the "perfect choice." Delaney offered no self-assessments. How do you get "wrong" out of that?

This is part of the disconnect on this forum. Purely factual statements are greeted with derision, while incoherent ejaculations of unjustified cheerleading gain the status of cult belief.

 

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[UMGriz75]

If referring to me....it was more that game tape exposed player tendencies....strengths and weaknesses....never once made mention of "simple strategies" being exposed....unless you mean Stitt dumbing down the offense for Simis.....which worked great in his first game....you know....until teams had tape on him....and any offense is about execution...no matter how simple or complex...

NDSU pretty much made a mockery of the concept, but it does bring up "flexibility" and the ability to change strategies when necessary. At ISU, Stitt switched to a run game, and it worked quite well because of a QB that could do it; Simis did a great job of the zone read; and a really nice job of executing that run game.

Until Stitt himself put on the brakes in the 3rd Q, the game was set to be a blowout, but then fell apart admittedly because of a coaching strategy, but prior to that UM was doing something very successfully that Stitt had been unable to do with Brady, and couldn't do with him at NDSU.

 

[uofmman1122]

Just gonna gloss over PSU as per usual, eh?

Pretty sure everything you (and everyone else) are going to say in the next two pages has already been said in countless other threads, but by all means, continue.

 

[UMGriz75]

Just gonna gloss over PSU as per usual, eh?

I, and others, have discussed our respective opinions in considerable detail after that game. Unless your memory is simply failing, there was nothing "glossed over" about a passing game strategy in a pouring rainstorm. On the key facts there, at the end of the day there is not much else to say about trying to use an "air raid" strategy in a pouring rainstorm. That horse is pretty well dead.

On the other hand, the ISU game did notably use a changed strategy (one that likely would have worked much better at PSU), and one that demonstrated Simis could do very good zone reads, and spark a completely different kind of offense successfully, and could lead the team in rushing effectively.

 

[FCSwatcher]

Here's a thought, since Brady drop the ball on not up to the task, having a terrible game, by coach Stitts admission, what do you think about making adjustments, changing QB

Stitt stepped in it when he accidentally made this tweet public - does anyone doubt that he he knew it? Talk about a DOH! moment. But it clearly WAS an accident. It will test Brady's mental fortitude, but I think Brady needs Stitt as much as Stitt needs him. Brady was the best QB on the roster for Stitt's system, and had several great games that led to victories (and put up some nice stats along the way). But it's debatable that Brady would have started in another system. I'm glad Stitt is always trying to get better, and I'm sure Brady understands this and will hopefully rise to the challenge, like a true champion would.

How do you accidentally tweet?

 

[garizzalies]

Either of those would have posed a different game at NDSU, but also would have required the different QB.

But it would have been really tough benching Brady after the run he'd had to get us that far.

It obviously was "tough" because he didn't do it. As I noted several weeks ago, this coach is going to play his playbook, results be damned. The ISU game represented an excellent alternative strategy. One again, Simis made rushers look good and led them himself. He did a great job of the zone read; and a really nice job of executing the run game; the best of any UM QB this season. They ran up points.
Only when Stitt decided (again) to save the lead and go conservative, did that game fall apart.
NDSU had read Stitt's book, and by the end of the first quarter, it was obvious his "air" attack was going nowhere. He had a run game, but he kept it on the bench. Without it, Stitt essentially forfeited the game, the "offense that can beat any defense." In. His. Words.

:lol: Holy shit. Does this d-bag seriously think Simis running zone read against NDSU would have saved us in that game? HA! He needs to go back to coaching "mathletes." Too funny
That post singlehandedly proved to me that 75 knows nothing about football, is related to Simis, or just loves to argue. He probably thinks Simis' OT fumbles were someone else's fault.

 

[FCSwatcher]

Once again....maybe Stitt isn't great...maybe Stitt couldn't tweak his offense to match the players....maybe what he inherited for athletes was a little lacking at some positions.....but does this mean that he can not succeed when he is able to fill positions with a player that matches the demands of the position within his offense.....

Reminder, the 2015 UM football team was a better team with better athletes than Stitt has ever coached in his entire life. The only person who had not played at that level before was ... the coach.

You hit the nail as directly on the head as it can be

 

[grizindabox]

Just gonna gloss over PSU as per usual, eh?

Pretty sure everything you (and everyone else) are going to say in the next two pages has already been said in countless other threads, but by all means, continue.

I only posted to clarify his obvious misrepresentation of what was actually stated in a previous conversation.....all done...

 

[UMAlum]

My Christmas season hope is the Stitt bashing will only help motivate coaches and players alike to do their best … keep trying to get better every day, find what works best for them as individuals, their units and for the team as a whole. I believe this is what will happen … just as it has over the last 30 years or so. GO GRIZ !! and enjoy the holidays everyone.

 

[grizindabox]

Once again....maybe Stitt isn't great...maybe Stitt couldn't tweak his offense to match the players....maybe what he inherited for athletes was a little lacking at some positions.....but does this mean that he can not succeed when he is able to fill positions with a player that matches the demands of the position within his offense.....

Reminder, the 2015 UM football team was a better team with better athletes than Stitt has ever coached in his entire life. The only person who had not played at that level before was ... the coach.

You hit the nail as directly on the head as it can be

My response to his quote......So......it doesn't prove anything....it only states the obvious.....but does that mean he can not coach at the FCS level........no......does that mean that his "better" athletes at Montana compared to their opponents at the FCS level are any different than the athletes at CSM compared to their opponents at the D2 level......no....

 

[grizindabox]

I am out....time to celebrate Christmas.....Festivus was yesterday....

 

[AZGrizFan]

Were you this down on Delaney too? Because he'd never been a head coach at ALL when he was given the keys to the caddy.

Interestingly, other than his endorsement by previous Griz head coaches, and Chase Reynolds who spoke very highly of Mick, I had no opinion because Mick had no record of touting himself and making specific claims about what he thought he could do.

It's one thing to set expectations for a team; that's a coach's job. It's something else to set public expectations by making relatively bold and specific claims about what you think about yourself.

When you do that, you risk being judged by them.

And I judge him favorably. VERY favorably. Beat NDSU (something that hadn't been done in 30 years). Beat EWU (who has absolutely OWNED us since Hauck left). Beat MSU (and got their head coach fired). Beat NAU (who abused Delaney's teams). Made it to the 2nd round of the playoffs. Went 2-1 against the vaunted MVFC including a win against likely the 5-time defending national champion.

Interestingly enough, had that been a Delaney-coached team, all the naysayers would be dancing on the rooftops. But because the guy has high expectations of himself, some folks just can't seem to enjoy the successes. Think about this: We're on our four coaching staff in seven years. The RS players graduating this year are playing in their THIRD offensive system in 5 years. I would argue that what Stitt accomplished this year was a goddamned MIRACLE. The fact that it didn't run flawlessly from day 1 doesn't diminish that in my view.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Once again....maybe Stitt isn't great...maybe Stitt couldn't tweak his offense to match the players....maybe what he inherited for athletes was a little lacking at some positions.....but does this mean that he can not succeed when he is able to fill positions with a player that matches the demands of the position within his offense.....

Reminder, the 2015 UM football team was a better team with better athletes than Stitt has ever coached in his entire life. The only person who had not played at that level before was ... the coach.

You hit the nail as directly on the head as it can be

My response to his quote......So......it doesn't prove anything....it only states the obvious.....but does that mean he can not coach at the FCS level........no......does that mean that his "better" athletes at Montana compared to their opponents at the FCS level are any different than the athletes at CSM compared to their opponents at the D2 level......no....

And box hits the nail directly on the head with a sledgehammer.

 

[Griz Man]

How do you accidentally tweet?

I don't use twitter, but apparently it has a personal messaging function. So I s'pose that when you're going 100 miles an hour and haven't had an off day in several months, you could lose track of whether you were in public or private mode. Speaking for myself, my technology sometimes conspires against me (e.g., it has been in private mode when for inexplicable reasons it switches over to public mode). Maybe he got a new phone recently...

He tweeted and deleted another that said "works for me". Logic dictates that these would be nonsensical public tweets, and were therefore accidental.

 

[CV Griz Fan]

How do you accidentally tweet?

I don't use twitter, but apparently it has a personal messaging function. So I s'pose that when you're going 100 miles an hour and haven't had an off day in several months, you could lose track of whether you were in public or private mode. Speaking for myself, my technology sometimes conspires against me (e.g., it has been in private mode when for inexplicable reasons it switches over to public mode). Maybe he got a new phone recently...

He tweeted and deleted another that said "works for me". Logic dictates that these would be nonsensical public tweets, and were therefore accidental.

I compare it to those auto-corrected texts that always seem to be so funny......I have been burned a few times myself with that function.