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[stubbins]

Once again....maybe Stitt isn't great...maybe Stitt couldn't tweak his offense to match the players....maybe what he inherited for athletes was a little lacking at some positions.....but does this mean that he can not succeed when he is able to fill positions with a player that matches the demands of the position within his offense.....


I want to touch on the athletes again....there were several positions, especially on offense, that the athletes were average or below even for the BSC.....pretty big reason why the offense was inconsistent all season long....

Please, don't blame athletes, they were good enough to beat the Cats, make the playoffs, and not because of outstanding offensive coaching, and that is a fact that you can't deny

spsyk....even you know that football is about matchups.....EWU and MSU were not built to take advantage of the weaknesses of the Griz....they were mediocre teams....

Well, MSU, probably not, you are aware of what happen to Ash, because of his production thru his tenure I'm a little surprised about EWU, I really thought they would be up to the challenge, and where not.

Again, athletes won the game, with WR play, and QB that got them the ball, and a stellar defense.

This is an absolutely genius way to remember Stitt's first season...Athletes played well and won the big games, no thanks to the coaching. Coaching lost the other games...

I like it...agenda much?

 

[CV Griz Fan]

Please, don't blame athletes, they were good enough to beat the Cats, make the playoffs, and not because of outstanding offensive coaching, and that is a fact that you can't deny

spsyk....even you know that football is about matchups.....EWU and MSU were not built to take advantage of the weaknesses of the Griz....they were mediocre teams....

Well, MSU, probably not, you are aware of what happen to Ash, because of his production thru his tenure I'm a little surprised about EWU, I really thought they would be up to the challenge, and where not.

Again, athletes won the game, with WR play, and QB that got them the ball, and a stellar defense.

This is an absolutely genius way to remember Stitt's first season...Athletes played well and won the big games, no thanks to the coaching. Coaching lost the other games...

I like it...agenda much?

I am not saying that it applies here but there is an old saying" that players win games and coaches lose them".....

 

[CV Griz Fan]

the Griz team of 2015, was loaded with IMO good athletes, good enough to win the Big Sky, beat the Cats and make the playoffs, accomplished all except win the Big Sky, and again IMO games won because of good athletes, not outstanding offensive coaching, and credit for the defense in winning a game or two

My hat's off to the Griz players and especially the D for playing their hearts out and making it a successful season. But your post is wrong: QB, RB, and offensive line were all big question marks coming into the season. We beat 2 teams, NDSU and SDSU, that probably had better and bigger athletes than we did. I'm not sure that last year's Griz team (with Delaney and JJ) would have beaten SDSU - we'll never know, of course...

Stitt did just fine, considering it was his first year.

and, there is no way in f***[*] hell that the old regime would've beaten NDSU....

Great post Stubbins. This is one part of the Anti-Stitt crowd that I don't get. The Griz aren't head and shoulders ahead of where they were with Delaney? Give me a break......

 

[Ursa Major]

This thread is so fucking stupid. Every page is the same exact thing. I was hoping for another Festivus miracle, but no.

YES, some of you don't like the coach. You've made it apparent. Mission accomplished. Nobody cares. If you haven't convinced everyone else to hate him in 10 pages, it's likely not going to happen. By all means, though, keep trying.

If I'm not mistaken, this is the "Airing of the Grievences," part of Festivus!

 

[CDAGRIZ]

This thread is so fucking stupid. Every page is the same exact thing. I was hoping for another Festivus miracle, but no.

YES, some of you don't like the coach. You've made it apparent. Mission accomplished. Nobody cares. If you haven't convinced everyone else to hate him in 10 pages, it's likely not going to happen. By all means, though, keep trying.

If I'm not mistaken, this is the "Airing of the Grievences," part of Festivus!

You're so right. Where is my Festivus spirit? Sorry, everyone.

 

[CFallsGriz]

This thread is so f***[*] stupid. Every page is the same exact thing. I was hoping for another Festivus miracle, but no.

YES, some of you don't like the coach. You've made it apparent. Mission accomplished. Nobody cares. If you haven't convinced everyone else to hate him in 10 pages, it's likely not going to happen. By all means, though, keep trying.

If I'm not mistaken, this is the "Airing of the Grievences," part of Festivus!

You're so right. Where is my Festivus spirit? Sorry, everyone.

Here it is.

http://festivuspoles.com/pages/Festivuspoles.htm#.VnuTJ_krLIU

 

[EverettGriz]

This thread is so f***[*] stupid. Every page is the same exact thing. I was hoping for another Festivus miracle, but no.

YES, some of you don't like the coach. You've made it apparent. Mission accomplished. Nobody cares. If you haven't convinced everyone else to hate him in 10 pages, it's likely not going to happen. By all means, though, keep trying.

If I'm not mistaken, this is the "Airing of the Grievences," part of Festivus!

Well, eGriz Festivis is gonna have to go into overtime. 'Cause I got some airing to do....

 

[Ursa Major]

This thread is so f***[*] stupid. Every page is the same exact thing. I was hoping for another Festivus miracle, but no.

YES, some of you don't like the coach. You've made it apparent. Mission accomplished. Nobody cares. If you haven't convinced everyone else to hate him in 10 pages, it's likely not going to happen. By all means, though, keep trying.

If I'm not mistaken, this is the "Airing of the Grievences," part of Festivus!

Well, eGriz Festivis is gonna have to go into overtime. 'Cause I got some airing to do....

:lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[grizindabox]

No way this gets to 17 pages.....

 

[AZGrizFan]

Once again....maybe Stitt isn't great...maybe Stitt couldn't tweak his offense to match the players....maybe what he inherited for athletes was a little lacking at some positions.....but does this mean that he can not succeed when he is able to fill positions with a player that matches the demands of the position within his offense.....

Reminder, the 2015 UM football team was a better team with better athletes than Stitt has ever coached in his entire life. The only person who had not played at that level before was ... the coach.

That doesn't mean that they were better athletes than his opponents....

That's true, opposing teams fielded better athletes with better coaches than Stitt has ever faced before as well; good thing he had an experienced UM Griz team to work with. Go Griz!

Were you this down on Delaney too? Because he'd never been a head coach at ALL when he was given the keys to the caddy.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

No way this gets to 17 pages.....

Hello. eGriz, can you hear me? Good morning, Stitt lovers, Staters (thanks, AWF), faculty members, boosters, quasi-boosters, organ donors, and janitors (aka Cat fans). This is CDA, semi-professional Griz fan, and I have something I wanna say. A lot of you motherfuckers think you know who Ursa is. Well, I'm here today to tell y'all you don't know shit. There comes a time in every man's life when he's got to take a look at himself in a mirror and decide just exactly who he is. Well, he's come to that crossroads and he's decided. Ursa is a man. Ursa is a nine-time arson survivor. Ursa is a Gemini. Ursa is a lover (hey hey MsMaroon). But the most he is, I mean, the thing that Ursa is the most, is a goddamned champion. And the one thing a champion does not do is fucking quit. A true champion faces his enemies and he conquers them. And that is why I'm here today to tell you all that Ursa is officially accepting the position of Chief Thread Extender here at eGriz. That is, until the Front Street Pour Boyz, the Cheney Methmouths, the Fargo Fats, or the Offseason Cats reclaim the title. So, let's get the posting on!

*Black Betty by Ram Jam plays*

 

[GeauxGriz]

All these anti-Stitt guys ought to remember back to all the same type of chatter about Hauck in his first year.

Lost to D2 NDSU, lost to the Cats, lost at home in first round of playoffs, and played a boring brand of football that had back to back games scoring 12 and 17 points.


I remember for sale signs, fire hack websites...

He had the Griz playing significant football pretty quick.

 

[jodcon]

Ursa is a nine-time arson survivor.

You should be keeping that on the low down...for obvious reasons.

 

[grzz]

All these anti-Stitt guys ought to remember back to all the same type of chatter about Hauck in his first year.

Lost to D2 NDSU, lost to the Cats, lost at home in first round of playoffs, and played a boring brand of football that had back to back games scoring 12 and 17 points.


I remember for sale signs, fire hack websites...

He had the Griz playing significant football pretty quick.

No, you see Stitt has a different set of expectations because he wasn't in the family when he was hired so it makes no difference that his first year was better than our last three first year coach performances. Also, all bad things that happened this year were because Stitt is stubborn/over his head/unqualified/arrogant/etc but all good things were in no way due to his contributions at all.

We have also officially decided that the concept of job progression and career ladders is only a good idea if the person comes from within the family. Otherwise, only "over qualified" applicants are acceptable.

My apologies if I missed anything, this is a fluid situation...

 

[horribilisfan8184]

All these anti-Stitt guys ought to remember back to all the same type of chatter about Hauck in his first year.

Lost to D2 NDSU, lost to the Cats, lost at home in first round of playoffs, and played a boring brand of football that had back to back games scoring 12 and 17 points.


I remember for sale signs, fire hack websites...

He had the Griz playing significant football pretty quick.

No, you see Stitt has a different set of expectations because he wasn't in the family when he was hired so it makes no difference that his first year was better than our last three first year coach performances. Also, all bad things that happened this year were because Stitt is stubborn/over his head/unqualified/arrogant/etc but all good things were in no way due to his contributions at all.

We have also officially decided that the concept of job progression and career ladders is only a good idea if the person comes from within the family. Otherwise, only "over qualified" applicants are acceptable.

My apologies if I missed anything, this is a fluid situation...

You forgot all mole hills shall become mountains.

 

[get'em_griz]

Once again....maybe Stitt isn't great...maybe Stitt couldn't tweak his offense to match the players....maybe what he inherited for athletes was a little lacking at some positions.....but does this mean that he can not succeed when he is able to fill positions with a player that matches the demands of the position within his offense.....


I want to touch on the athletes again....there were several positions, especially on offense, that the athletes were average or below even for the BSC.....pretty big reason why the offense was inconsistent all season long....

Please, don't blame athletes, they were good enough to beat the Cats, make the playoffs, and not because of outstanding offensive coaching, and that is a fact that you can't deny

spsyk....even you know that football is about matchups.....EWU and MSU were not built to take advantage of the weaknesses of the Griz....they were mediocre teams....

Well, MSU, probably not, you are aware of what happen to Ash, because of his production thru his tenure I'm a little surprised about EWU, I really thought they would be up to the challenge, and where not.

Again, athletes won the game, with WR play, and QB that got them the ball, and a stellar defense.

I just love it when people say "the athletes won the game" but then it's the coaches who lose games. If "athletes win the games", then there is no reason to have a coach. Just let the players go out there and play. After all, only athletes win the games. If there's no coach, who loses games for the athletes?

 

[UMGriz75]

I just love it when people say "the athletes won the game" but then it's the coaches who lose games. If "athletes win the games", then there is no reason to have a coach. Just let the players go out there and play. After all, only athletes win the games. If there's no coach, who loses games for the athletes?

I love it when people make broad generalizations about what other people say, even when no one has actually said it. [i.e. hyperbole alert!].

Is there a question that a coach and a poor strategy can lose a game for a team of good athletes?

Seriously. Is that a real question?

 

[UMGriz75]

Were you this down on Delaney too? Because he'd never been a head coach at ALL when he was given the keys to the caddy.

He had been head coach at Western.

 

[UMGriz75]

NDSU wins because they have the biggest and best athletes AND they keep it simple.

We had a lengthy thread about this mid-season, and the virtues of "simple" strategies after the "simplified offense" worked so well against UND.

There were a few who pointed to the virtues of such strategies, based on superior execution. There was a rather larger number of the usual vitrolic posters who pointed to the virtues of "game tapes" that exposed the weaknesses of "simple strategies," and therefore worked in favor of the virtues of Stitt's approach which, for reasons beyond me, is considered "complex" and therefore just the ticket for an "offense that can beat every defense" even though when employed against such powerhouses as Chadron State and Western New Mexico, it failed dismally to do so.

Even as that thread descended into the usual ad hominem sparring that accompanies any effort to discuss reality as opposed to a peculiar form of blinkered coach adulation that infects otherwise rational adult males, it was an interesting discussion of "strategy" vs "execution" and the interplay of "coaching" and "athlete skill."

The post above posits that success, in the case of NDSU, requires a trifecta of the biggest AND the best AND a simple strategy. If a team has the "biggest" and the "best" athletes, I'm not sure that they could fail no matter the strategy, but assuming a team can rarely achieve all three vs every opponent, what combination of 2 of 3 can make for a winning team?

NDSU continues to demonstrate that a clean, simple strategy, well done, wins. Or is size simply the ultimate determining factor? What does "best" actually mean in combination with position coaching skill?

 

[tgreseth]