Stitt needs 4 years...

[argh!]

somebody give re/max his crayons!

 

[argh!]

So am I drawing paperwork or not? I'm confused

Just play with your crayons, honey. This could take a while.

hey, that was my joke!

 

[AZGrizFan]

We currently do not have the talent to be successful right out of the gate. Fu*k the donors and loudmouths that think this program is about them. They are what is wrong with this program.

If they get in Haslams face I hope he punches them twice. Stitt has to seriously upgrade our talent to be competitive with the upper part of the FCS. We do not have the horses to compete in the BSC let alone on a national level.

Yes, F the big, medium and small donors that help fund the program. F the Washington brothers who committed to donate $7 million and their dad/mom for funding a large chunk of the stadiums several decades ago and all their donations to the academic side since then. F the stakeholders and shareholders of UM athletics.

I doubt that any donors think the program is about them, but it's not realistic to expect people to put it big sums of money if they don't like the direct of the program.

What's wrong with the program is loudmouths like yourself who won't recognize the incredible success and good things about the program and who unfairly diss players, coaches, people who do support the program, etc., who don't give a dime of support, and who won't recognize that winning the conference championship 7 years in a row and getting to national championship game 3 out of 7 years is a strong sign of extreme success. Yes, it's not what NDSU has done in recent years, but UM's success in the past couple decades puts at top eschelons of FCS elite.

Well I didn't send millions, but I withheld my $$ until I saw who they hired and I probably would NOT have sent in my pledge agreement if Hauck had been hired. So, there are at least SOME donors who feel differently....

 

[bgbigdog]

We currently do not have the talent to be successful right out of the gate... Stitt has to seriously upgrade our talent to be competitive with the upper part of the FCS. We do not have the horses to compete in the BSC let alone on a national level.

Not touching the donors thing, but have two questions. Do you honest believe anyone who follows this team didn't already feel that we were a few horse short of a herd? To my mind, nothing has been more painfully obvious all the way back through the Holy Hauck era. And the success we've enjoyed has been the result of kids putting the team on their backs and willing victories.

Secondly, did Stitt take that first step to compete in the BSC with the incoming signing class? The Calhouns and the big Hart kid aside, are there horses here or is Brint doing the papers thing? I

 

[PlayerRep]

We currently do not have the talent to be successful right out of the gate. Fu*k the donors and loudmouths that think this program is about them. They are what is wrong with this program.

If they get in Haslams face I hope he punches them twice. Stitt has to seriously upgrade our talent to be competitive with the upper part of the FCS. We do not have the horses to compete in the BSC let alone on a national level.

Yes, F the big, medium and small donors that help fund the program. F the Washington brothers who committed to donate $7 million and their dad/mom for funding a large chunk of the stadiums several decades ago and all their donations to the academic side since then. F the stakeholders and shareholders of UM athletics.

I doubt that any donors think the program is about them, but it's not realistic to expect people to put it big sums of money if they don't like the direct of the program.

What's wrong with the program is loudmouths like yourself who won't recognize the incredible success and good things about the program and who unfairly diss players, coaches, people who do support the program, etc., who don't give a dime of support, and who won't recognize that winning the conference championship 7 years in a row and getting to national championship game 3 out of 7 years is a strong sign of extreme success. Yes, it's not what NDSU has done in recent years, but UM's success in the past couple decades puts at top eschelons of FCS elite.

Well I didn't send millions, but I withheld my $$ until I saw who they hired and I probably would NOT have sent in my pledge agreement if Hauck had been hired. So, there are at least SOME donors who feel differently....

I am sure that there are many who feel like you do, and may have been less willing to donate if BH was hired, but my impression is that many of the large donors supported Hauck and I know lots of medium and smaller donors who are now taking a wait and see attitude on Stitt.

 

[BadlandsGrizFan]

We currently do not have the talent to be successful right out of the gate. Fu*k the donors and loudmouths that think this program is about them. They are what is wrong with this program.

If they get in Haslams face I hope he punches them twice. Stitt has to seriously upgrade our talent to be competitive with the upper part of the FCS. We do not have the horses to compete in the BSC let alone on a national level.

Yes, F the big, medium and small donors that help fund the program. F the Washington brothers who committed to donate $7 million and their dad/mom for funding a large chunk of the stadiums several decades ago and all their donations to the academic side since then. F the stakeholders and shareholders of UM athletics.

I doubt that any donors think the program is about them, but it's not realistic to expect people to put it big sums of money if they don't like the direct of the program.

What's wrong with the program is loudmouths like yourself who won't recognize the incredible success and good things about the program and who unfairly diss players, coaches, people who do support the program, etc., who don't give a dime of support, and who won't recognize that winning the conference championship 7 years in a row and getting to national championship game 3 out of 7 years is a strong sign of extreme success. Yes, it's not what NDSU has done in recent years, but UM's success in the past couple decades puts at top eschelons of FCS elite.

You do! You just said that if the school woulda hired Hauck that millions woulda walked in the door because the donors got their guy! Lets see ya lawyer your way outta that one

 

[Zootown Rox]

We'll be great starting next year. Reasonable expectations would be playoffs (we should always expect this) and top 2 in conference. I wouldn't expect a dip in the defense and I expect the offense will be much improved from last season when it was honestly the biggest weakness of the team, well maybe special teams was. So I'm expecting a better season than last year and would be disappointed if we took a step back. We should be able to beat Cal Poly at home, and if not beat NDSU than give them a closer game, the Liberty game will be interesting and I don't really know what to expect there. Other than that our conference schedule is a little more favorable having EWU and NAU at home, and our toughest road games being at Idaho State and MSU. Going undefeated in conference is highly likely, and dropping two or more conference games seems unlikely. So feel free to expect big things in year one of Stitt.

 

[PlayerRep]

We currently do not have the talent to be successful right out of the gate. Fu*k the donors and loudmouths that think this program is about them. They are what is wrong with this program.

If they get in Haslams face I hope he punches them twice. Stitt has to seriously upgrade our talent to be competitive with the upper part of the FCS. We do not have the horses to compete in the BSC let alone on a national level.

Yes, F the big, medium and small donors that help fund the program. F the Washington brothers who committed to donate $7 million and their dad/mom for funding a large chunk of the stadiums several decades ago and all their donations to the academic side since then. F the stakeholders and shareholders of UM athletics.

I doubt that any donors think the program is about them, but it's not realistic to expect people to put it big sums of money if they don't like the direct of the program.

What's wrong with the program is loudmouths like yourself who won't recognize the incredible success and good things about the program and who unfairly diss players, coaches, people who do support the program, etc., who don't give a dime of support, and who won't recognize that winning the conference championship 7 years in a row and getting to national championship game 3 out of 7 years is a strong sign of extreme success. Yes, it's not what NDSU has done in recent years, but UM's success in the past couple decades puts at top eschelons of FCS elite.

You do! You just said that if the school woulda hired Hauck that millions woulda walked in the door because the donors got their guy! Lets see ya lawyer your way outta that one

Sorry, there's nothing to lawyer out of. Donors get to decide when, to whom, and how much to donate. That's their right; it's a free country. That's life. Their decisions whether to donate or not, don't make the program about them. I really don't understand how you could even make that connection. Do you really think that every sizable donation makes the organization/program about them? No wonder you come across as being so goofy and out to lunch on this board.

 

[Grisly Fan]

Never hire a retread. You want to hitch your team to a rising star -- not be someone's golden parachute. Donors donate to winning teams so win baby win and the rest will take care of itself. I also agree that if any donor or potential donor is in RH's office if the Griz struggle for a few games then I hope they get a Chuck Norris roundhouse to the head.

 

[grizfnz]

We currently do not have the talent to be successful right out of the gate. Fu*k the donors and loudmouths that think this program is about them. They are what is wrong with this program.

If they get in Haslams face I hope he punches them twice. Stitt has to seriously upgrade our talent to be competitive with the upper part of the FCS. We do not have the horses to compete in the BSC let alone on a national level.

Yes, F the big, medium and small donors that help fund the program. F the Washington brothers who committed to donate $7 million and their dad/mom for funding a large chunk of the stadiums several decades ago and all their donations to the academic side since then. F the stakeholders and shareholders of UM athletics.

I doubt that any donors think the program is about them, but it's not realistic to expect people to put it big sums of money if they don't like the direct of the program.

What's wrong with the program is loudmouths like yourself who won't recognize the incredible success and good things about the program and who unfairly diss players, coaches, people who do support the program, etc., who don't give a dime of support, and who won't recognize that winning the conference championship 7 years in a row and getting to national championship game 3 out of 7 years is a strong sign of extreme success. Yes, it's not what NDSU has done in recent years, but UM's success in the past couple decades puts at top eschelons of FCS elite.

Well I didn't send millions, but I withheld my $$ until I saw who they hired and I probably would NOT have sent in my pledge agreement if Hauck had been hired. So, there are at least SOME donors who feel differently....

I am sure that there are many who feel like you do, and may have been less willing to donate if BH was hired, but my impression is that many of the large donors supported Hauck and I know lots of medium and smaller donors who are now taking a wait and see attitude on Stitt.

We currently do not have the talent to be successful right out of the gate. Fu*k the donors and loudmouths that think this program is about them. They are what is wrong with this program.

If they get in Haslams face I hope he punches them twice. Stitt has to seriously upgrade our talent to be competitive with the upper part of the FCS. We do not have the horses to compete in the BSC let alone on a national level.

Yes, F the big, medium and small donors that help fund the program. F the Washington brothers who committed to donate $7 million and their dad/mom for funding a large chunk of the stadiums several decades ago and all their donations to the academic side since then. F the stakeholders and shareholders of UM athletics.

I doubt that any donors think the program is about them, but it's not realistic to expect people to put it big sums of money if they don't like the direct of the program.

What's wrong with the program is loudmouths like yourself who won't recognize the incredible success and good things about the program and who unfairly diss players, coaches, people who do support the program, etc., who don't give a dime of support, and who won't recognize that winning the conference championship 7 years in a row and getting to national championship game 3 out of 7 years is a strong sign of extreme success. Yes, it's not what NDSU has done in recent years, but UM's success in the past couple decades puts at top eschelons of FCS elite.

Well I didn't send millions, but I withheld my $$ until I saw who they hired and I probably would NOT have sent in my pledge agreement if Hauck had been hired. So, there are at least SOME donors who feel differently....

I am sure that there are many who feel like you do, and may have been less willing to donate if BH was hired, but my impression is that many of the large donors supported Hauck and I know lots of medium and smaller donors who are now taking a wait and see attitude on Stitt.

Former donors not supporting THE PROGRAM because "their inside guy" didn't get hired. Are they given a pass and not considered "bad donors"? By witholding money, they are voicing their disapproval and displaying negativity towards the hire of Stitt. Perhaps they think they are more important than THE PROGRAM, since their money apparently comes with strings attached.

When the Stitt train gets rolling they'll be the first wanting to hop on.

 

[BadlandsGrizFan]

We currently do not have the talent to be successful right out of the gate. Fu*k the donors and loudmouths that think this program is about them. They are what is wrong with this program.

If they get in Haslams face I hope he punches them twice. Stitt has to seriously upgrade our talent to be competitive with the upper part of the FCS. We do not have the horses to compete in the BSC let alone on a national level.

Yes, F the big, medium and small donors that help fund the program. F the Washington brothers who committed to donate $7 million and their dad/mom for funding a large chunk of the stadiums several decades ago and all their donations to the academic side since then. F the stakeholders and shareholders of UM athletics.

I doubt that any donors think the program is about them, but it's not realistic to expect people to put it big sums of money if they don't like the direct of the program.

What's wrong with the program is loudmouths like yourself who won't recognize the incredible success and good things about the program and who unfairly diss players, coaches, people who do support the program, etc., who don't give a dime of support, and who won't recognize that winning the conference championship 7 years in a row and getting to national championship game 3 out of 7 years is a strong sign of extreme success. Yes, it's not what NDSU has done in recent years, but UM's success in the past couple decades puts at top eschelons of FCS elite.

You do! You just said that if the school woulda hired Hauck that millions woulda walked in the door because the donors got their guy! Lets see ya lawyer your way outta that one

Sorry, there's nothing to lawyer out of. Donors get to decide when, to whom, and how much to donate. That's their right; it's a free country. That's life. Their decisions whether to donate or not, don't make the program about them. I really don't understand how you could even make that connection. Do you really think that every sizable donation makes the organization/program about them? No wonder you come across as being so goofy and out to lunch on this board.

I honestly don't really care what the donors do that much, Im glad they support our program. If its me personally and they picked a coach I was unsure about I would still support the program with donations to build facilities. And YOU made it sound like the donors do think its all about them because if they don't get their guy, they take their ball and go home.

And as for me coming off goofy...I am goofy and I like to have fun on this board....I'm guessing that most posters would agree that you come off equally as strange on the other side of the spectrum...as in insecure, uptight, and stiff as a board. Id still have a beer with ya tho :thumb:

 

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

The fact you say that donors leave because Hauck wasnt hired proves they want their money to influence decisions, making themselves feel important and making the program "about them".

I am sure this is another thing you "wont get"

 

[poorgriz]

We'll be great starting next year. Reasonable expectations would be playoffs (we should always expect this) and top 2 in conference. I wouldn't expect a dip in the defense and I expect the offense will be much improved from last season when it was honestly the biggest weakness of the team, well maybe special teams was. So I'm expecting a better season than last year and would be disappointed if we took a step back. We should be able to beat Cal Poly at home, and if not beat NDSU than give them a closer game, the Liberty game will be interesting and I don't really know what to expect there. Other than that our conference schedule is a little more favorable having EWU and NAU at home, and our toughest road games being at Idaho State and MSU. Going undefeated in conference is highly likely, and dropping two or more conference games seems unlikely. So feel free to expect big things in year one of Stitt.

Wow. Some of you guys are delusional. You think it's highly likely that you'll go undefeated in conference? I'll take that bet. You haven't won or even tied for the Big Sky in like six years. Now you have a brand new HC coming in, an experiment to see how effective this, 100+plays per game system can be in the FCS. This is a radically different offense, and you don't have the ideal personnel to run it yet. You are completely unproven at QB, lost your star QB that everyone said was the only reason you haven't had losing seasons. Oh, and there are some damn good teams in the Big Sky, and you have a brutal schedule. 7-4 best case.

 

[BadlandsGrizFan]

We'll be great starting next year. Reasonable expectations would be playoffs (we should always expect this) and top 2 in conference. I wouldn't expect a dip in the defense and I expect the offense will be much improved from last season when it was honestly the biggest weakness of the team, well maybe special teams was. So I'm expecting a better season than last year and would be disappointed if we took a step back. We should be able to beat Cal Poly at home, and if not beat NDSU than give them a closer game, the Liberty game will be interesting and I don't really know what to expect there. Other than that our conference schedule is a little more favorable having EWU and NAU at home, and our toughest road games being at Idaho State and MSU. Going undefeated in conference is highly likely, and dropping two or more conference games seems unlikely. So feel free to expect big things in year one of Stitt.

Wow. Some of you guys are delusional. You think it's highly likely that you'll go undefeated in conference? I'll take that bet. You haven't won or even tied for the Big Sky in like six years. Now you have a brand new HC coming in, an experiment to see how effective this, 100+plays per game system can be in the FCS. This is a radically different offense, and you don't have the ideal personnel to run it yet. You are completely unproven at QB, lost your star QB that everyone said was the only reason you haven't had losing seasons. Oh, and there are some damn good teams in the Big Sky, and you have a brutal schedule. 7-4 best case.

youre right we should just start being satisfied with making it to the second round of the playoffs like ole little brother.

 

[firmgriz]

Wow. Some of you guys are delusional. You think it's highly likely that you'll go undefeated in conference? I'll take that bet. You haven't won or even tied for the Big Sky in like six years. Now you have a brand new HC coming in, an experiment to see how effective this, 100+plays per game system can be in the FCS. This is a radically different offense, and you don't have the ideal personnel to run it yet. You are completely unproven at QB, lost your star QB that everyone said was the only reason you haven't had losing seasons. Oh, and there are some damn good teams in the Big Sky, and you have a brutal schedule. 7-4 best case.[/quote]

I'm not about to guarantee that we go undefeated in conference next year, but I can guarantee that nearly every cat fan will underestimate this team. You all have made that an annual ritual. Please go back and look at all the cat fans' predictions for the griz, starting last year, as well as their predictions for their own team. I guarantee you that the cats do worse, and the Griz better, than you and the rest of your kitty mates are predicting and/or will predict going into the 2015 season. Remember how shocked you were about getting your asses kicked by the Griz in 2014?? Guess what, it didn't surprise us. The same story will repeat itself in 2015. I fully expect the 2015 Griz to be top 2 in conference, if not win it, beat the kitties in bozo, and win multiple games in the playoffs. Best of luck to the cats the rest of the season, however.

 

[AZGrizFan]

We'll be great starting next year. Reasonable expectations would be playoffs (we should always expect this) and top 2 in conference. I wouldn't expect a dip in the defense and I expect the offense will be much improved from last season when it was honestly the biggest weakness of the team, well maybe special teams was. So I'm expecting a better season than last year and would be disappointed if we took a step back. We should be able to beat Cal Poly at home, and if not beat NDSU than give them a closer game, the Liberty game will be interesting and I don't really know what to expect there. Other than that our conference schedule is a little more favorable having EWU and NAU at home, and our toughest road games being at Idaho State and MSU. Going undefeated in conference is highly likely, and dropping two or more conference games seems unlikely. So feel free to expect big things in year one of Stitt.

Wow. Some of you guys are delusional. You think it's highly likely that you'll go undefeated in conference? I'll take that bet. You haven't won or even tied for the Big Sky in like six years. Now you have a brand new HC coming in, an experiment to see how effective this, 100+plays per game system can be in the FCS. This is a radically different offense, and you don't have the ideal personnel to run it yet. You are completely unproven at QB, lost your star QB that everyone said was the only reason you haven't had losing seasons. Oh, and there are some damn good teams in the Big Sky, and you have a brutal schedule. 7-4 best case.

How much?

 

[poorgriz]

We'll be great starting next year. Reasonable expectations would be playoffs (we should always expect this) and top 2 in conference. I wouldn't expect a dip in the defense and I expect the offense will be much improved from last season when it was honestly the biggest weakness of the team, well maybe special teams was. So I'm expecting a better season than last year and would be disappointed if we took a step back. We should be able to beat Cal Poly at home, and if not beat NDSU than give them a closer game, the Liberty game will be interesting and I don't really know what to expect there. Other than that our conference schedule is a little more favorable having EWU and NAU at home, and our toughest road games being at Idaho State and MSU. Going undefeated in conference is highly likely, and dropping two or more conference games seems unlikely. So feel free to expect big things in year one of Stitt.

Wow. Some of you guys are delusional. You think it's highly likely that you'll go undefeated in conference? I'll take that bet. You haven't won or even tied for the Big Sky in like six years. Now you have a brand new HC coming in, an experiment to see how effective this, 100+plays per game system can be in the FCS. This is a radically different offense, and you don't have the ideal personnel to run it yet. You are completely unproven at QB, lost your star QB that everyone said was the only reason you haven't had losing seasons. Oh, and there are some damn good teams in the Big Sky, and you have a brutal schedule. 7-4 best case.

How much?

So you're saying you'll go 8-3 or better regular season? I'll take it. Fifth of Crown, Jack, Pendleton, something comparable. My only stipulation is that Alpha collects from the winner and pays the loser. Suprisingly... he's the only one I trust on this site. :lol:

 

[brewskis]

We currently do not have the talent to be successful right out of the gate. Fu*k the donors and loudmouths that think this program is about them. They are what is wrong with this program.

If they get in Haslams face I hope he punches them twice. Stitt has to seriously upgrade our talent to be competitive with the upper part of the FCS. We do not have the horses to compete in the BSC let alone on a national level.

Yes, F the big, medium and small donors that help fund the program. F the Washington brothers who committed to donate $7 million and their dad/mom for funding a large chunk of the stadiums several decades ago and all their donations to the academic side since then. F the stakeholders and shareholders of UM athletics.

I doubt that any donors think the program is about them, but it's not realistic to expect people to put it big sums of money if they don't like the direct of the program.

What's wrong with the program is loudmouths like yourself who won't recognize the incredible success and good things about the program and who unfairly diss players, coaches, people who do support the program, etc., who don't give a dime of support, and who won't recognize that winning the conference championship 7 years in a row and getting to national championship game 3 out of 7 years is a strong sign of extreme success. Yes, it's not what NDSU has done in recent years, but UM's success in the past couple decades puts at top eschelons of FCS elite.

Gonna agree with Playerrep here. The variety of people and families that donate big AND small $ and show passionate interest in griz football are what makes this organization special. I usually agree with AG1's stuff for the most part...but it's obvious you're just trying to come off as edgy, but you're sounding like an a**hole.

That being said, we will need better and higher powered players to get to the national title. But we most definitely already have the talent to be at the top of the BSC. This recruiting class looks like a big step in the right direction though.

 

[PlayerRep]

Yes, F the big, medium and small donors that help fund the program. F the Washington brothers who committed to donate $7 million and their dad/mom for funding a large chunk of the stadiums several decades ago and all their donations to the academic side since then. F the stakeholders and shareholders of UM athletics.

I doubt that any donors think the program is about them, but it's not realistic to expect people to put it big sums of money if they don't like the direct of the program.

What's wrong with the program is loudmouths like yourself who won't recognize the incredible success and good things about the program and who unfairly diss players, coaches, people who do support the program, etc., who don't give a dime of support, and who won't recognize that winning the conference championship 7 years in a row and getting to national championship game 3 out of 7 years is a strong sign of extreme success. Yes, it's not what NDSU has done in recent years, but UM's success in the past couple decades puts at top eschelons of FCS elite.

You do! You just said that if the school woulda hired Hauck that millions woulda walked in the door because the donors got their guy! Lets see ya lawyer your way outta that one

Sorry, there's nothing to lawyer out of. Donors get to decide when, to whom, and how much to donate. That's their right; it's a free country. That's life. Their decisions whether to donate or not, don't make the program about them. I really don't understand how you could even make that connection. Do you really think that every sizable donation makes the organization/program about them? No wonder you come across as being so goofy and out to lunch on this board.

I honestly don't really care what the donors do that much, Im glad they support our program. If its me personally and they picked a coach I was unsure about I would still support the program with donations to build facilities. And YOU made it sound like the donors do think its all about them because if they don't get their guy, they take their ball and go home.

And as for me coming off goofy...I am goofy and I like to have fun on this board....I'm guessing that most posters would agree that you come off equally as strange on the other side of the spectrum...as in insecure, uptight, and stiff as a board. Id still have a beer with ya tho :thumb:

I can agree with some of what you say. However, I deal with people and company with big bucks everyday, and most of them are careful with their money and they tend to support and donate things they believe in and feel good about. If someone or some organization asks them for money, but doesn't want to listen to their views, they are less likely to provide big financial support. I don't know why you wouldn't understand that, or why you think that means that they want to the program all about them.

Many Griz fans don't buy season tickets or don't attend D-II games, or stop going to games. Does that mean that they believe the program is all about them. I sure don't think it does.

 

[PhxGriz]

Didn't App State go all the way their first year of moving to a spread offense? Can't remember.