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Stitt needs 4 years...

WaGriz4life said:
AZGrizFan said:
66volvo said:
Would not expect much the first year, especially with an unknown quarterback(s) who have never thrown a pass for us yet.. I give us two years. Stitt needs another full recruiting year to build his empire.

Robin Pflugrad was 1-2 after three games. The Griz went 17-5 after that. I anticipate some hiccups along the way, but with VA gone and the race wide open, two very talented transfer QB's and a boatload of returning talent I see no reason why we can't win immediately.
I agree with you. Next year is the year we could struggle. We will be losing 8 senior starters off the defense. 5 in the front 7. And the guys behind them leave a lot to be desired from what we've seen (or haven't seen) so far. Rebuilding that defense will be a big challenge. People will say we have lots of "depth" and not to worry, but those are typically people that say that every single year regardless of who the players are.

Plus we have to find a new quarterback
 
Three years. Three year contract. That's not setting the bar unusually high. It also means that fans can't bellyache about fullbacks and tight ends being reassigned to other positions.

Montana, in less than three years, needs to figure out how to increase the salaries of coach Stitt and his staff. If Eastern's head coach gets a base salary of $212k and five year contract, Montana needs to do much better.
 
I think Stitt needs to win immediately, i.e. be contending for the playoffs in his first year, and definitely in the playoffs his second year. If UM starts losing too many games, or getting blown out in some games or not looking good in some games, I'm afraid the fans will start to turn on him (and Haslam/Engstrom) and attendance will soften (and eventually drop off). When Delaney came in, as an interim coach after Pflu's firing during spring ball and then lost a great starting qb and had no experience at all in the back-ups, some fans cut him some slack--but there was also significant grumbling. There is no way Stitt will get 4 years from the fans, and probably not 3 either. I think many former players, bigger donors, insiders, qb club members, etc. were surprised, even stunned, that Haslam/Enstrom went outside of the greater Griz nation fold, and a relatively unknown, coach from a lower level. While I think they will either be mildly supportive and neutral for a year or maybe into year two, if things aren't going well, I would guess that some of those people will become vocal and will be in Haslam's face.

I am cautiously optimistic. While I would have hired someone else, Stitt is here, he looks very good, and I hope he does well from the get-go. I see nothing significant so far that would indicate that he won't be successful. Hopefully, he will be a great coach. But again, if thinks don't go well fairly quickly, I would expect huge grumbling and criticism of those who hired him (and hired him against the advice of many people important to Griz football/athletics). Lastly, I have heard that one of the goals was to hire someone outside of the Griz fold. Don't know if that was Engstrom or Haslam (wouldn't seem like Haslam), or what was behind that. I suppose it could have been code for not hiring Hauck, or Enstrom or someone not wanting to hire a coach who has an existing power base within Griz nation.
 
He's got the keys to the Cadillac of the FCS. If year two isn't a banner year then year three(of a three year contract)had better be, or out the door before year four.
 
statler & waldorf said:
He's got the keys to the Cadillac of the FCS. If year two isn't a banner year then year three(of a three year contract)had better be, or out the door before year four.

As much as it pains me, if we're the Cadillac of the FCS, that must make NDSU the Bugatti Veyron. :(
 
PlayerRep said:
I am cautiously optimistic. While I would have hired someone else, Stitt is here, he looks very good, and I hope he does well from the get-go.

Who would that have been?
 
statler & waldorf said:
He's got the keys to the Cadillac of the FCS. If year two isn't a banner year then year three(of a three year contract)had better be, or out the door before year four.


yeah, a 2004 Cadillac!


2001_cadillac_seville_sts_lebanon_pa_96635149639928976.jpg
 
grizcountry420 said:
statler & waldorf said:
He's got the keys to the Cadillac of the FCS. If year two isn't a banner year then year three(of a three year contract)had better be, or out the door before year four.


yeah, a 2004 Cadillac!


2001_cadillac_seville_sts_lebanon_pa_96635149639928976.jpg

Hey now. It was still a cadillac at LEAST as late as 2009. :twisted: :twisted:
 
AZGrizFan said:
PlayerRep said:
I am cautiously optimistic. While I would have hired someone else, Stitt is here, he looks very good, and I hope he does well from the get-go.

Who would that have been?

Hauck. Best-equipped to hit the ground running. Very strong assistants. Better coach than when he left UM, more recruiting contacts, and more mature. Very competitive and would have been extra competitive having decided to come back to FCS and UM. Less risky than any other hires. Strong MT recruiting ties. An almost slam dunk for immediate and long-term success. Strong relationship with major donors and many former players, etc. Money, like millions, would have walked in the door to complete the funding for the new Performance Center (and allowed GSA to use its funds for other things).
 
4 years? This is Montana football. He'll get 4 games. By then he better have his shit figured out or Wahlberg better start drawing up some papers.
 
AZGrizFan said:
WaGriz4life said:
AZGrizFan said:
66volvo said:
Would not expect much the first year, especially with an unknown quarterback(s) who have never thrown a pass for us yet.. I give us two years. Stitt needs another full recruiting year to build his empire.

Robin Pflugrad was 1-2 after three games. The Griz went 17-5 after that. I anticipate some hiccups along the way, but with VA gone and the race wide open, two very talented transfer QB's and a boatload of returning talent I see no reason why we can't win immediately.
I agree with you. Next year is the year we could struggle. We will be losing 8 senior starters off the defense. 5 in the front 7. And the guys behind them leave a lot to be desired from what we've seen (or haven't seen) so far. Rebuilding that defense will be a big challenge. People will say we have lots of "depth" and not to worry, but those are typically people that say that every single year regardless of who the players are.

You're talking about 2016, correct?

DE - Crittenden / Johnson
DT - Peevey / Ena
DT - Kidder / Bradley
DE - Holmes / Owen

OLB - Gamboa / Lebsock
MLB - Kose / Schye
OLB - Van Ackeren / Strahm

CB - Harris / Garner
CB - Nelson / McKinley

S - Whitted / Dallaserra
S - Johnson / Epperly

Honestly, the only position I'm concerned about in 2016 is Safety.
Yes, I think we are better equipped personnel wise in 2015 then 2016. Lot of good players to replace on defense after this year.
 
Griz2k said:
4 years? This is Montana football. He'll get 4 games. By then he better have his shit figured out or Wahlberg better start drawing up some papers.

Yup, if he needs 4 years, Haslam/Engstrom hired the wrong guy. Wahlberg might have to drawing up papers for multiple people.
 
PlayerRep said:
Griz2k said:
4 years? This is Montana football. He'll get 4 games. By then he better have his shit figured out or Wahlberg better start drawing up some papers.

Yup, if he needs 4 years, Haslam/Engstrom hired the wrong guy. Wahlberg might have to drawing up papers for multiple people.
This +1
 
Can't deny the buzz around this team and for the upcoming season.

New coach who took the time to make some inspired hires. Fast break offense which, besides play velocity, doesn't appear that dissimilar to the one that got them to the semi-finals some four years back. NOLI signings that look pretty dam exciting. Players back that were sorely missed & other promising kids on the roster that have the opportunity to step up this year. When was the last time you were this intrigued by the QB possibilities on this team?

No little sisters of the poor on this schedule, Liberty, CP, much-improved ISU, all preceded by the biggest opening day event in the history of WaGriz, national audience to kick off the CFB season against the four time champ. You could excuse everyone who's got their heads out over their skis a bit. And why the hell not? Would you rather be discussing all the fun stuff over @ BN or RZ? Butt-hurt central. Never been so excited for spring drills, fall camp and the opening of any football season, ever. Not going to curb my enthusiasm/excitement and don't have any expectations of the team which is my advice to everyone counseling temperance. It's Friday by the way, no time for temperance.

Alba gu bràth! As close as this tool is going to get to anything related to Braveheart.
 
We currently do not have the talent to be successful right out of the gate. Fu*k the donors and loudmouths that think this program is about them. They are what is wrong with this program.

If they get in Haslams face I hope he punches them twice. Stitt has to seriously upgrade our talent to be competitive with the upper part of the FCS. We do not have the horses to compete in the BSC let alone on a national level.
 
ALPHAGRIZ1 said:
We currently do not have the talent to be successful right out of the gate. Fu*k the donors and loudmouths that think this program is about them. They are what is wrong with this program.

If they get in Haslams face I hope he punches them twice. Stitt has to seriously upgrade our talent to be competitive with the upper part of the FCS. We do not have the horses to compete in the BSC let alone on a national level.

Yes, F the big, medium and small donors that help fund the program. F the Washington brothers who committed to donate $7 million and their dad/mom for funding a large chunk of the stadiums several decades ago and all their donations to the academic side since then. F the stakeholders and shareholders of UM athletics.

I doubt that any donors think the program is about them, but it's not realistic to expect people to put it big sums of money if they don't like the direct of the program.

What's wrong with the program is loudmouths like yourself who won't recognize the incredible success and good things about the program and who unfairly diss players, coaches, people who do support the program, etc., who don't give a dime of support, and who won't recognize that winning the conference championship 7 years in a row and getting to national championship game 3 out of 7 years is a strong sign of extreme success. Yes, it's not what NDSU has done in recent years, but UM's success in the past couple decades puts at top eschelons of FCS elite.
 

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