Stitt needs 4 years...

[PlayerRep]

The fact you say that donors leave because Hauck wasnt hired proves they want their money to influence decisions, making themselves feel important and making the program "about them".

I am sure this is another thing you "wont get"

It's more that some donors don't come, not that they leave. They still come to games and provide some financial and other support, but they may not be as willing or likely to pony up a $100,000 or a million. You are welcome to say and feel what you want, but, in my view, you are not right on these things, and it shows that you are not used to raising money, being asked for large amounts of money, and being around people and companies with large amounts of money. For the most part, they are not looking to make themselves feel important or making the program about them, they already are important or think they are. It's a free country; they can do what they want with their money. It's surprising that someone with views like you seem to have, seem to think the big donors are obligated to donate to organizations or schools no matter what's going on or what they think about the organization.

 

[mtgrizrule]

Yes big donors are needed.
Alpha is yanking chains with his statement. Often we have to read between the lines to even try to figure out his intent.
My attempt to read between the lines.He feels some donors are little too close to the program. Some donors go beyond being told what contributions are being used for. Some feel they are entitled to information and benefits that at times can be crossing some unnecessary lines.

If, that is some of what Alpha is getting at, then to some extent he is right.

With that said, PR you are right, the contributors/donors are needed. I'd ask Alpha if I am close to what he is really getting at, but don't expect him to give us that much. He'd likely rather keep us all wondering.

 

[rocklobster]

Coach Mick brought stability to the program, which he was hired to do. In the process, he and his staff did a damn fine job! Now that things are stable, Coach Stitt is the next step. I see us competing not only for the Big sky Championship, but moving into the latter rounds of the playoffs. Time will tell, but if he can do what he did with his division 2 players, and apply it to the Griz level of athlete, the sky's the limit. The Big Sky! Sorry.

 

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

So you're saying you'll go 8-3 or better regular season? I'll take it. Fifth of Crown, Jack, Pendleton, something comparable. My only stipulation is that Alpha collects from the winner and pays the loser. Suprisingly... he's the only one I trust on this site. :lol:

Good call PG you nailed that one. I know PlAYArapE has not paid up on multiple bets on here under many screen names, last one was to Spsyk this season, then there was what many on here refer to as the "Lulay Loophole" I know he never paid that one either.

I got you on this on and being the stnd up guy I am if for some reason one of these tools wont pay up let me know and I will get you at the Griz cat game this season. You know I am good for it.

 

[PlayerRep]

So you're saying you'll go 8-3 or better regular season? I'll take it. Fifth of Crown, Jack, Pendleton, something comparable. My only stipulation is that Alpha collects from the winner and pays the loser. Suprisingly... he's the only one I trust on this site. :lol:

Good call PG you nailed that one. I know PlAYArapE has not paid up on multiple bets on here under many screen names, last one was to Spsyk this season, then there was what many on here refer to as the "Lulay Loophole" I know he never paid that one either.

I got you on this on and being the stnd up guy I am if for some reason one of these tools wont pay up let me know and I will get you at the Griz cat game this season. You know I am good for it.

You are one to talk about multiple screen names. Also, I chuckle when you claim that multiple people use your account after even your buddies start clobbering you for something dumb you've said. Ya, multiple people use my account too. Ha. I always pay bets that I have actually made, and sometimes have agreed to pay bets that I didn't make or believe I have made. Lulay Loophole, what's that? Don't recall ever hearing that one.

 

[AZGrizFan]

We'll be great starting next year. Reasonable expectations would be playoffs (we should always expect this) and top 2 in conference. I wouldn't expect a dip in the defense and I expect the offense will be much improved from last season when it was honestly the biggest weakness of the team, well maybe special teams was. So I'm expecting a better season than last year and would be disappointed if we took a step back. We should be able to beat Cal Poly at home, and if not beat NDSU than give them a closer game, the Liberty game will be interesting and I don't really know what to expect there. Other than that our conference schedule is a little more favorable having EWU and NAU at home, and our toughest road games being at Idaho State and MSU. Going undefeated in conference is highly likely, and dropping two or more conference games seems unlikely. So feel free to expect big things in year one of Stitt.

Wow. Some of you guys are delusional. You think it's highly likely that you'll go undefeated in conference? I'll take that bet. You haven't won or even tied for the Big Sky in like six years. Now you have a brand new HC coming in, an experiment to see how effective this, 100+plays per game system can be in the FCS. This is a radically different offense, and you don't have the ideal personnel to run it yet. You are completely unproven at QB, lost your star QB that everyone said was the only reason you haven't had losing seasons. Oh, and there are some damn good teams in the Big Sky, and you have a brutal schedule. 7-4 best case.

How much?

So you're saying you'll go 8-3 or better regular season? I'll take it. Fifth of Crown, Jack, Pendleton, something comparable. My only stipulation is that Alpha collects from the winner and pays the loser. Suprisingly... he's the only one I trust on this site. :lol:

You're on. And what a co-inky-dink: Alpha's the only one that I trust as well.

 

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

So you're saying you'll go 8-3 or better regular season? I'll take it. Fifth of Crown, Jack, Pendleton, something comparable. My only stipulation is that Alpha collects from the winner and pays the loser. Suprisingly... he's the only one I trust on this site. :lol:

Good call PG you nailed that one. I know PlAYArapE has not paid up on multiple bets on here under many screen names, last one was to Spsyk this season, then there was what many on here refer to as the "Lulay Loophole" I know he never paid that one either.

I got you on this on and being the stnd up guy I am if for some reason one of these tools wont pay up let me know and I will get you at the Griz cat game this season. You know I am good for it.

You are one to talk about multiple screen names. Also, I chuckle when you claim that multiple people use your account after even your buddies start clobbering you for something dumb you've said. Ya, multiple people use my account too. Ha. I always pay bets that I have actually made, and sometimes have agreed to pay bets that I didn't make or believe I have made. Lulay Loophole, what's that? Don't recall ever hearing that one.

Multiple people do have access to my account, isnt it weird how AG1 didnt post the entire football season? Its because I changed the password and nobody had access to it. Duh, I rarely post on here or any other board.

Yeah you always pay up, very funny and I love how you forgot about the "Lulay Loophole" I would too if I was you. :roll:

 

[argh!]

oh dear gawd, greenie's owning alpo.

i guess that tells you a lot (at least a percent)about alpo, doesn't it?

 

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

oh dear gawd, greenie's owning alpo.

i guess that tells you a lot (at least a percent)about alpo, doesn't it?

Bring that up the next time we are in the same parking lot.............seriously it would be a fun thing to talk about.

 

[horribilisfan8184]

Stitt's coaching ability would have had last year's team playing at Cat-GRIZ level every game. I believe we would have taken Wyo and EWU both times. He will simplify the early offense and install more as the players develop. I see a struggle the first game on offense but getting better each game. Stitts offense will have new wrinkles each week unlike the Cats last year which sputtered as defenses figured them out.

 

[PlayerRep]

So you're saying you'll go 8-3 or better regular season? I'll take it. Fifth of Crown, Jack, Pendleton, something comparable. My only stipulation is that Alpha collects from the winner and pays the loser. Suprisingly... he's the only one I trust on this site. :lol:

Good call PG you nailed that one. I know PlAYArapE has not paid up on multiple bets on here under many screen names, last one was to Spsyk this season, then there was what many on here refer to as the "Lulay Loophole" I know he never paid that one either.

I got you on this on and being the stnd up guy I am if for some reason one of these tools wont pay up let me know and I will get you at the Griz cat game this season. You know I am good for it.

You are one to talk about multiple screen names. Also, I chuckle when you claim that multiple people use your account after even your buddies start clobbering you for something dumb you've said. Ya, multiple people use my account too. Ha. I always pay bets that I have actually made, and sometimes have agreed to pay bets that I didn't make or believe I have made. Lulay Loophole, what's that? Don't recall ever hearing that one.

Multiple people do have access to my account, isnt it weird how AG1 didnt post the entire football season? Its because I changed the password and nobody had access to it. Duh, I rarely post on here or any other board.

Yeah you always pay up, very funny and I love how you forgot about the "Lulay Loophole" I would too if I was you. :roll:

You, under the Alpha name, didn't post much during the season, but you did in fact post scores of times during the season. How many posts did you make under your various other names?

I just searched the Lulay Loophole, and found 3 posts, all today. Ya, I sure forgot about that one. Just more stuff you must have made up. You're not even as good of a liar as you used to be.

I'd take argh in the parking lot over you any day. You probably wouldn't even be able to look him in the eye.

 

[EverettGriz]

Some donors -- both big and small -- who have a highly inflated sense of self-importance were going to withhold donations no matter who was hired. To suggest that tens of millions of dollars are sitting on the sidelines because Stitt was hired over Hauck is ludicrous.

What actually happened is that there was a surge of excitement in the fan base (which leads to discussions, which leads to giving) when the hire was announced.

 

[go4two]

I am cautiously optimistic. While I would have hired someone else, Stitt is here, he looks very good, and I hope he does well from the get-go.

Who would that have been?

Hauck. Best-equipped to hit the ground running. Very strong assistants. Better coach than when he left UM, more recruiting contacts, and more mature. Very competitive and would have been extra competitive having decided to come back to FCS and UM. Less risky than any other hires. Strong MT recruiting ties. An almost slam dunk for immediate and long-term success. Strong relationship with major donors and many former players, etc. Money, like millions, would have walked in the door to complete the funding for the new Performance Center (and allowed GSA to use its funds for other things).

While I will agree that Hauck would have been an excellent choice for what happened on the football field while he was here, it is what happened off of the football field that lead to his demise. I have it on good authority that is what cost him. For the record I liked Hauck, but Stitt will do great things here at Montana.

 

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

You, under the Alpha name, didn't post much during the season, but you did in fact post scores of times during the season. How many posts did you make under your various other names?

I just searched the Lulay Loophole, and found 3 posts, all today. Ya, I sure forgot about that one. Just more stuff you must have made up. You're not even as good of a liar as you used to be.

I'd take argh in the parking lot over you any day. You probably wouldn't even be able to look him in the eye.

I only have one screen name, but hey you just keep thinking I post under others, cool with me.

Also you are correct on the ARGH in the parking lot thing he is 5'3" no way I could look him in the eye.

The Lulay Loophole was back when you were using the GrizFan10 screen name. Of course it wouldnt show up you had the account deleted because of all the personal threats to children and bombing of other posters. No big whoop, I remember and that is all that matters, and why I wont bet with you, you are dishonest.

 

[Silvertip]

If buying into the system is a key element for Stitt being successful sooner than later he should take a look at prime example's in two ex-Griz coaches of the roundball game...Larry Krystkowiak and Wayne Tinkle whose abilities to get into kid's heads are paying off big time.

 

[reinell30]

How about we give the man his 1st year and see what happens before we say he will need more years to get his team together? I believe we have the talent now to be the conference champs for many years to come!

 

[G-BEARS]

If buying into the system is a key element for Stitt being successful sooner than later he should take a look at prime example's in two ex-Griz coaches of the roundball game...Larry Krystkowiak and Wayne Tinkle whose abilities to get into kid's heads are paying off big time.

Prime example of a coach finding success after he was given time to implement his system/players. Been there about 4 years if I'm not mistaken. It's not impossible for a coach to find instant success by any means, but a lot of the time it does take a few years. I hope that we as fans and a University are patient if this is the case. It took Baldwin a few years before he turned that program around, same with Kramer and Ash. By no means are we in a similar situation to where those teams were at. Of course we'll be somewhere near the top of the conference the next couple years regardless, but I think Stitt will take us back to being the premier team in the conference no questions asked, and that is what is going to take about 4 years IMO.

 

[Umista]

I could not stay out of this dumb debate...I tried but like a small kid I had to mention my thoughts on Stitt.

Yes it was Royce that put the NO on Hauck. Reasons are many but actually very simple. Hauck's players acted like toughs on campus and were a bit rough around the edges. With our rape issues it was a certain NO vote for Bobby.

Many donating boosters like myself made it known to Royce that Delaney's boring football must leave ASAP. Yes I personally bitched to Royce and my guess is others did the same. Of course donations put you in touch with the bigs. Fact of life. Perhaps I and others had some influence, who knows for sure? In the end I am very excited with Stitt and believe it was a great hire.

Exciting football will bring more and many new fans on board. That alone will bode well for enrollment although Royce does not have a clue. He thinks sending out sales people into the community will do the job. In any event our new football hire will bring more wins and excitement for our University, hence a more popular school in Montana and the USA.

Most of you do not understand business and what it takes to operate one. If you put an inch of business thought into this Stitt hire you would understand this was one of the greatest hires we could have made. Forget all that donate crap, realize that leaders listen to us but in the end they need to make the decision based on what they think and know.

Next season? My guess is we will have a very exciting team. Fun to watch. We will win more games than many expect and I will be way more excited than during Mick's era and to me that will lead to championships down the road!

 

[Triwest]

I could not stay out of this dumb debate...I tried but like a small kid I had to mention my thoughts on Stitt.

Yes it was Royce that put the NO on Hauck. Reasons are many but actually very simple. Hauck's players acted like toughs on campus and were a bit rough around the edges. With our rape issues it was a certain NO vote for Bobby.

Many donating boosters like myself made it known to Royce that Delaney's boring football must leave ASAP. Yes I personally bitched to Royce and my guess is others did the same. Of course donations put you in touch with the bigs. Fact of life. Perhaps I and others had some influence, who knows for sure? In the end I am very excited with Stitt and believe it was a great hire.

Exciting football will bring more and many new fans on board. That alone will bode well for enrollment although Royce does not have a clue. He thinks sending out sales people into the community will do the job. In any event our new football hire will bring more wins and excitement for our University, hence a more popular school in Montana and the USA.

Most of you do not understand business and what it takes to operate one. If you put an inch of business thought into this Stitt hire you would understand this was one of the greatest hires we could have made. Forget all that donate crap, realize that leaders listen to us but in the end they need to make the decision based on what they think and know.

Next season? My guess is we will have a very exciting team. Fun to watch. We will win more games than many expect and I will be way more excited than during Mick's era and to me that will lead to championships down the road!

Stitt should be a very good hire. Hauck did not have satisfactory responses to how to maintain positive image on campus and in community for the program as a whole not just football related.

The program is not in poor shape now And will move ahead with Stitt. Football and sports in general are in a state of change as is how education is delivered. We continue to build our modern day Coliseums for our current gladiators. I do not know when the change away will come but there is a big change of attitude, interest and support moving in. Through my business travels and contacts worldwide the open support for sports is starting to decline. Just my observations.

 

[G-BEARS]

I could not stay out of this dumb debate...I tried but like a small kid I had to mention my thoughts on Stitt.

Yes it was Royce that put the NO on Hauck. Reasons are many but actually very simple. Hauck's players acted like toughs on campus and were a bit rough around the edges. With our rape issues it was a certain NO vote for Bobby.

Many donating boosters like myself made it known to Royce that Delaney's boring football must leave ASAP. Yes I personally bitched to Royce and my guess is others did the same. Of course donations put you in touch with the bigs. Fact of life. Perhaps I and others had some influence, who knows for sure? In the end I am very excited with Stitt and believe it was a great hire.

Exciting football will bring more and many new fans on board. That alone will bode well for enrollment although Royce does not have a clue. He thinks sending out sales people into the community will do the job. In any event our new football hire will bring more wins and excitement for our University, hence a more popular school in Montana and the USA.

Most of you do not understand business and what it takes to operate one. If you put an inch of business thought into this Stitt hire you would understand this was one of the greatest hires we could have made. Forget all that donate crap, realize that leaders listen to us but in the end they need to make the decision based on what they think and know.

Next season? My guess is we will have a very exciting team. Fun to watch. We will win more games than many expect and I will be way more excited than during Mick's era and to me that will lead to championships down the road!

Stitt should be a very good hire. Hauck did not have satisfactory responses to how to maintain positive image on campus and in community for the program as a whole not just football related.

The program is not in poor shape now And will move ahead with Stitt. Football and sports in general are in a state of change as is how education is delivered. We continue to build our modern day Coliseums for our current gladiators. I do not kmow when the change away will come but there is a big change of attitude, interest and support moving in. Through my business travels and contacts worldwide the open support for sports is starting to decline. Just my observations.

Yeah okay. :roll: