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Sterk Stats - Conference Only Stats

PlayerRep said:
Walkon79 said:
Walkon79 said:
PlayerRep said:
That has nothing to do with the topic being discussed.

Under your view, the Griz seniors can say they were 1-4 against the Cats. They were not.

Getting a ring does not mean that “I” beat a particular team during the redshirt year. Of course, the “team” did. Maybe in some circumstances, “we” did. But “I” didn’t.

I see that the amazing Sterk got second team al conference. He probably good first team obnoxious social media. Maybe first team non-Conference.

And a bunch of our seniors were actually 4-1 using that same logic. Konkel, for example redshirted and didn't play in 2015. If you didn't play it's not a part of your legacy, so Bryce was actually not accurate in his statement
And second team all conference is just BS IMO. Might not like his social media but he's a hell of a player and has a good chance of playing on Sundays.


With his very low conf stats, I am not sure he deserved second team. I wonder if his reputation got him the votes for second team. For example, why would the Davis coach vote for him. He had no tackles and no sacks in that game. No stats for anything.

Yeah but he had more sacks and tackles for loss THIS YEAR than the Weber kid has had in his whole career. Colter agrees that this was bogus, and for the kid to be named Co-MVP is ridiculous.
 
SACCAT66 said:
PlayerRep said:
Walkon79 said:
Walkon79 said:
And a bunch of our seniors were actually 4-1 using that same logic. Konkel, for example redshirted and didn't play in 2015. If you didn't play it's not a part of your legacy, so Bryce was actually not accurate in his statement
And second team all conference is just BS IMO. Might not like his social media but he's a hell of a player and has a good chance of playing on Sundays.

With his very low conf stats, I am not sure he deserved second team. I wonder if his reputation got him the votes for second team. For example, why would the Davis coach vote for him. He had no tackles and no sacks in that game. No stats for anything.

Well...Someone thinks he is pretty good, because he got invited to the Shrine Game, along with Olson...

Well obviously whoever does the invites never played the game.......
 
Walkon79 said:
PlayerRep said:
Walkon79 said:
Walkon79 said:
And a bunch of our seniors were actually 4-1 using that same logic. Konkel, for example redshirted and didn't play in 2015. If you didn't play it's not a part of your legacy, so Bryce was actually not accurate in his statement
And second team all conference is just BS IMO. Might not like his social media but he's a hell of a player and has a good chance of playing on Sundays.


With his very low conf stats, I am not sure he deserved second team. I wonder if his reputation got him the votes for second team. For example, why would the Davis coach vote for him. He had no tackles and no sacks in that game. No stats for anything.

Yeah but he had more sacks and tackles for loss THIS YEAR than the Weber kid has had in his whole career. Colter agrees that this was bogus, and for the kid to be named Co-MVP is ridiculous.

Sterk may be a very good player and a good NFL prospect, but his conference only stats this season were pretty weak and he’s lucky to have gotten second team all conference. After getting no tackles or sacks against Davis, do you think the Davis coach voted for him to be defensive MVP or first team all conference?
 
Bear Spray said:
SACCAT66 said:
PlayerRep said:
Walkon79 said:
And second team all conference is just BS IMO. Might not like his social media but he's a hell of a player and has a good chance of playing on Sundays.

With his very low conf stats, I am not sure he deserved second team. I wonder if his reputation got him the votes for second team. For example, why would the Davis coach vote for him. He had no tackles and no sacks in that game. No stats for anything.

Well...Someone thinks he is pretty good, because he got invited to the Shrine Game, along with Olson...

Well obviously whoever does the invites never played the game.......

Generally, NFL prospects are invited to the Shrine game. The conference coaches select all conference and defensive mvp.
 
PlayerRep said:
Walkon79 said:
PlayerRep said:
Walkon79 said:
And second team all conference is just BS IMO. Might not like his social media but he's a hell of a player and has a good chance of playing on Sundays.


With his very low conf stats, I am not sure he deserved second team. I wonder if his reputation got him the votes for second team. For example, why would the Davis coach vote for him. He had no tackles and no sacks in that game. No stats for anything.

Yeah but he had more sacks and tackles for loss THIS YEAR than the Weber kid has had in his whole career. Colter agrees that this was bogus, and for the kid to be named Co-MVP is ridiculous.

Sterk may be a very good player and a good NFL prospect, but his conference only stats this season were pretty weak and he’s lucky to have gotten second team all conference. After getting no tackles or sacks against Davis, do you think the Davis coach voted for him to be defensive MVP or first team all conference?

As someone who played the game before, you should know that stats don't necessarily equal production, especially on the DL. A pressure, for example, doesn't make the box score, but creates a lot of havoc and disruption for an offense.

As one of my favorite analysts always says, disruption = production.

Sorry, just a pet peeve of mine. It relates well to Jesse Sims too. Sure his stats aren't great, but anybody watching him can see that he produces at a high quality and rate when he plays. Might not show in the box score, but it shows up on tape!
 
PTGrizzly said:
PlayerRep said:
Walkon79 said:
PlayerRep said:
With his very low conf stats, I am not sure he deserved second team. I wonder if his reputation got him the votes for second team. For example, why would the Davis coach vote for him. He had no tackles and no sacks in that game. No stats for anything.

Yeah but he had more sacks and tackles for loss THIS YEAR than the Weber kid has had in his whole career. Colter agrees that this was bogus, and for the kid to be named Co-MVP is ridiculous.

Sterk may be a very good player and a good NFL prospect, but his conference only stats this season were pretty weak and he’s lucky to have gotten second team all conference. After getting no tackles or sacks against Davis, do you think the Davis coach voted for him to be defensive MVP or first team all conference?

As someone who played the game before, you should know that stats don't necessarily equal production, especially on the DL. A pressure, for example, doesn't make the box score, but creates a lot of havoc and disruption for an offense.

As one of my favorite analysts always says, disruption = production.

Sorry, just a pet peeve of mine. It relates well to Jesse Sims too. Sure his stats aren't great, but anybody watching him can see that he produces at a high quality and rate when he plays. Might not show in the box score, but it shows up on tape!
For people like PR that don't understand the game, stats are the only way they know how to measure the quality of a player. He couldn't tell a good left tackle form a dead chicken
 
The.Real.2506 said:
PTGrizzly said:
PlayerRep said:
Walkon79 said:
Yeah but he had more sacks and tackles for loss THIS YEAR than the Weber kid has had in his whole career. Colter agrees that this was bogus, and for the kid to be named Co-MVP is ridiculous.

Sterk may be a very good player and a good NFL prospect, but his conference only stats this season were pretty weak and he’s lucky to have gotten second team all conference. After getting no tackles or sacks against Davis, do you think the Davis coach voted for him to be defensive MVP or first team all conference?

As someone who played the game before, you should know that stats don't necessarily equal production, especially on the DL. A pressure, for example, doesn't make the box score, but creates a lot of havoc and disruption for an offense.

As one of my favorite analysts always says, disruption = production.

Sorry, just a pet peeve of mine. It relates well to Jesse Sims too. Sure his stats aren't great, but anybody watching him can see that he produces at a high quality and rate when he plays. Might not show in the box score, but it shows up on tape!
For people like PR that don't understand the game, stats are the only way they know how to measure the quality of a player. He couldn't tell a good left tackle form a dead chicken

To make a comparison on football knowledge, PR is like John Madden, and you're the excrement left behind from John Gruden.
 
PTGrizzly said:
PlayerRep said:
Walkon79 said:
PlayerRep said:
With his very low conf stats, I am not sure he deserved second team. I wonder if his reputation got him the votes for second team. For example, why would the Davis coach vote for him. He had no tackles and no sacks in that game. No stats for anything.

Yeah but he had more sacks and tackles for loss THIS YEAR than the Weber kid has had in his whole career. Colter agrees that this was bogus, and for the kid to be named Co-MVP is ridiculous.

Sterk may be a very good player and a good NFL prospect, but his conference only stats this season were pretty weak and he’s lucky to have gotten second team all conference. After getting no tackles or sacks against Davis, do you think the Davis coach voted for him to be defensive MVP or first team all conference?

As someone who played the game before, you should know that stats don't necessarily equal production, especially on the DL. A pressure, for example, doesn't make the box score, but creates a lot of havoc and disruption for an offense.

As one of my favorite analysts always says, disruption = production.

Sorry, just a pet peeve of mine. It relates well to Jesse Sims too. Sure his stats aren't great, but anybody watching him can see that he produces at a high quality and rate when he plays. Might not show in the box score, but it shows up on tape!

Agreed, but a stand up rushing d-end should never have a game with no tackles, no TFLs, no sacks, no QB hurrys, and no forced fumbles. Not that you are doing this, but comparing a d-tackle/nose to a stand up d-end, is not a valid comparison.
 
The.Real.2506 said:
PTGrizzly said:
PlayerRep said:
Walkon79 said:
Yeah but he had more sacks and tackles for loss THIS YEAR than the Weber kid has had in his whole career. Colter agrees that this was bogus, and for the kid to be named Co-MVP is ridiculous.

Sterk may be a very good player and a good NFL prospect, but his conference only stats this season were pretty weak and he’s lucky to have gotten second team all conference. After getting no tackles or sacks against Davis, do you think the Davis coach voted for him to be defensive MVP or first team all conference?

As someone who played the game before, you should know that stats don't necessarily equal production, especially on the DL. A pressure, for example, doesn't make the box score, but creates a lot of havoc and disruption for an offense.

As one of my favorite analysts always says, disruption = production.

Sorry, just a pet peeve of mine. It relates well to Jesse Sims too. Sure his stats aren't great, but anybody watching him can see that he produces at a high quality and rate when he plays. Might not show in the box score, but it shows up on tape!
For people like PR that don't understand the game, stats are the only way they know how to measure the quality of a player. He couldn't tell a good left tackle form a dead chicken

I'd put my knowledge of the game, and virtually everything else in my life, up against you anytime. Let's start with grammar. For people "who" know the game, not people "that" know the game. Also, spelling. "Form" a dead chicken?

If you think a d-end who gets no stats for the season deserves to be all-conference, then I don't know what to say to you.

If you think you know more about football than the head coaches in the Big Sky, then I really don't know what to say to you.
 
PlayerRep said:
PTGrizzly said:
PlayerRep said:
Walkon79 said:
Yeah but he had more sacks and tackles for loss THIS YEAR than the Weber kid has had in his whole career. Colter agrees that this was bogus, and for the kid to be named Co-MVP is ridiculous.

Sterk may be a very good player and a good NFL prospect, but his conference only stats this season were pretty weak and he’s lucky to have gotten second team all conference. After getting no tackles or sacks against Davis, do you think the Davis coach voted for him to be defensive MVP or first team all conference?

As someone who played the game before, you should know that stats don't necessarily equal production, especially on the DL. A pressure, for example, doesn't make the box score, but creates a lot of havoc and disruption for an offense.

As one of my favorite analysts always says, disruption = production.

Sorry, just a pet peeve of mine. It relates well to Jesse Sims too. Sure his stats aren't great, but anybody watching him can see that he produces at a high quality and rate when he plays. Might not show in the box score, but it shows up on tape!

Agreed, but a stand up rushing d-end should never have a game with no tackles, no TFLs, no sacks, no QB hurrys, and no forced fumbles. Not that you are doing this, but comparing a d-tackle/nose to a stand up d-end, is not a valid comparison.

My trust for those stats is very low. I didn't watch the game, but it seems hard to believe. Even then, if he had none of the counting stats but had 5 hurries, then he had a productive game.

I don't think anybody who saw Sterk play this last week could say he's not a first team caliber player. Kid was a game wrecker. I'd sure as hell take him on my team.
 
PlayerRep said:
The.Real.2506 said:
PTGrizzly said:
PlayerRep said:
Sterk may be a very good player and a good NFL prospect, but his conference only stats this season were pretty weak and he’s lucky to have gotten second team all conference. After getting no tackles or sacks against Davis, do you think the Davis coach voted for him to be defensive MVP or first team all conference?

As someone who played the game before, you should know that stats don't necessarily equal production, especially on the DL. A pressure, for example, doesn't make the box score, but creates a lot of havoc and disruption for an offense.

As one of my favorite analysts always says, disruption = production.

Sorry, just a pet peeve of mine. It relates well to Jesse Sims too. Sure his stats aren't great, but anybody watching him can see that he produces at a high quality and rate when he plays. Might not show in the box score, but it shows up on tape!
For people like PR that don't understand the game, stats are the only way they know how to measure the quality of a player. He couldn't tell a good left tackle form a dead chicken

I'd put my knowledge of the game, and virtually everything else in my life, up against you anytime. Let's start with grammar. For people "who" know the game, not people "that" know the game. Also, spelling. "Form" a dead chicken?

If you think a d-end who gets no stats for the season deserves to be all-conference, then I don't know what to say to you.

If you think you know more about football than the head coaches in the Big Sky, then I really don't know what to say to you.

When you say that, does that imply you think the conference selections are always accurate? Because I certainly would not go that far.

Take the Koski kid for example. No way he's a 1st team WR in the BSC.
 
PlayerRep said:
The.Real.2506 said:
PTGrizzly said:
PlayerRep said:
Sterk may be a very good player and a good NFL prospect, but his conference only stats this season were pretty weak and he’s lucky to have gotten second team all conference. After getting no tackles or sacks against Davis, do you think the Davis coach voted for him to be defensive MVP or first team all conference?

As someone who played the game before, you should know that stats don't necessarily equal production, especially on the DL. A pressure, for example, doesn't make the box score, but creates a lot of havoc and disruption for an offense.

As one of my favorite analysts always says, disruption = production.

Sorry, just a pet peeve of mine. It relates well to Jesse Sims too. Sure his stats aren't great, but anybody watching him can see that he produces at a high quality and rate when he plays. Might not show in the box score, but it shows up on tape!
For people like PR that don't understand the game, stats are the only way they know how to measure the quality of a player. He couldn't tell a good left tackle form a dead chicken

I'd put my knowledge of the game, and virtually everything else in my life, up against you anytime. Let's start with grammar. For people "who" know the game, not people "that" know the game. Also, spelling. "Form" a dead chicken?

If you think a d-end who gets no stats for the season deserves to be all-conference, then I don't know what to say to you.

If you think you know more about football than the head coaches in the Big Sky, then I really don't know what to say to you.
You must not be aware that the 4 top vote getters for the conference champs get reserved spots on the 1st team. WSU and SAC each had a DE in thier top 4 receiving votes.

1st team all conf doesn't necessarily mean that is who the coaches thought were the best at that position in the conference.

If you would listen to a few coaches interviews from other teams you might learn something. :thumb:
 
The.Real.2506 said:
PlayerRep said:
The.Real.2506 said:
PTGrizzly said:
As someone who played the game before, you should know that stats don't necessarily equal production, especially on the DL. A pressure, for example, doesn't make the box score, but creates a lot of havoc and disruption for an offense.

As one of my favorite analysts always says, disruption = production.

Sorry, just a pet peeve of mine. It relates well to Jesse Sims too. Sure his stats aren't great, but anybody watching him can see that he produces at a high quality and rate when he plays. Might not show in the box score, but it shows up on tape!
For people like PR that don't understand the game, stats are the only way they know how to measure the quality of a player. He couldn't tell a good left tackle form a dead chicken

I'd put my knowledge of the game, and virtually everything else in my life, up against you anytime. Let's start with grammar. For people "who" know the game, not people "that" know the game. Also, spelling. "Form" a dead chicken?

If you think a d-end who gets no stats for the season deserves to be all-conference, then I don't know what to say to you.

If you think you know more about football than the head coaches in the Big Sky, then I really don't know what to say to you.
You must not be aware that the 4 top vote getters for the conference champs get reserved spots on the 1st team. WSU and SAC each had a DE in thier top 4 receiving votes.

1st team all conf doesn't necessarily mean that is who the coaches thought were the best at that position in the conference.

If you would listen to a few coaches interviews from other teams you might learn something. :thumb:


Well done! Although I doubt he'd learn anything.
 
The.Real.2506 said:
PlayerRep said:
The.Real.2506 said:
PTGrizzly said:
As someone who played the game before, you should know that stats don't necessarily equal production, especially on the DL. A pressure, for example, doesn't make the box score, but creates a lot of havoc and disruption for an offense.

As one of my favorite analysts always says, disruption = production.

Sorry, just a pet peeve of mine. It relates well to Jesse Sims too. Sure his stats aren't great, but anybody watching him can see that he produces at a high quality and rate when he plays. Might not show in the box score, but it shows up on tape!
For people like PR that don't understand the game, stats are the only way they know how to measure the quality of a player. He couldn't tell a good left tackle form a dead chicken

I'd put my knowledge of the game, and virtually everything else in my life, up against you anytime. Let's start with grammar. For people "who" know the game, not people "that" know the game. Also, spelling. "Form" a dead chicken?

If you think a d-end who gets no stats for the season deserves to be all-conference, then I don't know what to say to you.

If you think you know more about football than the head coaches in the Big Sky, then I really don't know what to say to you.
You must not be aware that the 4 top vote getters for the conference champs get reserved spots on the 1st team. WSU and SAC each had a DE in thier top 4 receiving votes.

1st team all conf doesn't necessarily mean that is who the coaches thought were the best at that position in the conference.

If you would listen to a few coaches interviews from other teams you might learn something. :thumb:

Send us the list of the top 4 vote getters for those 2 teams. But you do at least admit that the coaches vote for all-conference.

Personally, I think anyone who regularly watches the press conferences of opposing coaches is an odd person, and must not have a family or friends. You are weird.
 
Bear Spray said:
The.Real.2506 said:
PlayerRep said:
The.Real.2506 said:
For people like PR that don't understand the game, stats are the only way they know how to measure the quality of a player. He couldn't tell a good left tackle form a dead chicken

I'd put my knowledge of the game, and virtually everything else in my life, up against you anytime. Let's start with grammar. For people "who" know the game, not people "that" know the game. Also, spelling. "Form" a dead chicken?

If you think a d-end who gets no stats for the season deserves to be all-conference, then I don't know what to say to you.

If you think you know more about football than the head coaches in the Big Sky, then I really don't know what to say to you.
You must not be aware that the 4 top vote getters for the conference champs get reserved spots on the 1st team. WSU and SAC each had a DE in thier top 4 receiving votes.

1st team all conf doesn't necessarily mean that is who the coaches thought were the best at that position in the conference.

If you would listen to a few coaches interviews from other teams you might learn something. :thumb:


Well done! Although I doubt he'd learn anything.

I just talk to the coaches and text them. Get better and more direct answers. Texted with Bobby on Sunday. I think it's funny that someone thinks that listening to press conferences is better than communicating directly with coaches.
 
PlayerRep said:
Bear Spray said:
The.Real.2506 said:
PlayerRep said:
I'd put my knowledge of the game, and virtually everything else in my life, up against you anytime. Let's start with grammar. For people "who" know the game, not people "that" know the game. Also, spelling. "Form" a dead chicken?

If you think a d-end who gets no stats for the season deserves to be all-conference, then I don't know what to say to you.

If you think you know more about football than the head coaches in the Big Sky, then I really don't know what to say to you.
You must not be aware that the 4 top vote getters for the conference champs get reserved spots on the 1st team. WSU and SAC each had a DE in thier top 4 receiving votes.

1st team all conf doesn't necessarily mean that is who the coaches thought were the best at that position in the conference.

If you would listen to a few coaches interviews from other teams you might learn something. :thumb:


Well done! Although I doubt he'd learn anything.

I just talk to the coaches and text them. Get better and more direct answers. Texted with Bobby on Sunday. I think it's funny that someone thinks that listening to press conferences is better than communicating directly with coaches.

And yet yo still didn't know that each of the confrence co-champs automatically get their top 4 on the 1st team.

Weird :thumb:
 
The.Real.2506 said:
PlayerRep said:
Bear Spray said:
The.Real.2506 said:
You must not be aware that the 4 top vote getters for the conference champs get reserved spots on the 1st team. WSU and SAC each had a DE in thier top 4 receiving votes.

1st team all conf doesn't necessarily mean that is who the coaches thought were the best at that position in the conference.

If you would listen to a few coaches interviews from other teams you might learn something. :thumb:


Well done! Although I doubt he'd learn anything.

I just talk to the coaches and text them. Get better and more direct answers. Texted with Bobby on Sunday. I think it's funny that someone thinks that listening to press conferences is better than communicating directly with coaches.

And yet yo still didn't know that each of the confrence co-champs automatically get their top 4 on the 1st team.

Weird :thumb:

Sure I do. I didn’t know the votes were publicly available, tho. So I asked you for the vote list. Show us how many votes Sterk got, compared to the others.
 
PlayerRep said:
The.Real.2506 said:
PlayerRep said:
Bear Spray said:
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Well done! Although I doubt he'd learn anything.

I just talk to the coaches and text them. Get better and more direct answers. Texted with Bobby on Sunday. I think it's funny that someone thinks that listening to press conferences is better than communicating directly with coaches.

And yet yo still didn't know that each of the confrence co-champs automatically get their top 4 on the 1st team.

Weird :thumb:

Sure I do. I didn’t know the votes were publicly available, tho. So I asked you for the vote list. Show us how many votes Sterk got, compared to the others.

I don't have a vote list, and don't need it, I heard a coach say exactly how it went down.
 
Some thought Obinna would win defensive MVP. In conference play, he led the conference with 10 sacks. Sterk had 5. 9 solo, Sterk had 3 solo. Obinna also led the conference in TFL's, with 12. Sterk isn't in the top 20 in the conference.

The other first team d-end, Williams, was first team all conference last year too.

I will do some checking when I get back to Missoula. I better not catch you lying.
 
He switched from Buck to essentially a 5 technique position, replacing Fa'anono, and then accrued 12 sacks, a year after leading the conference in that category.

He's a stud. He would be the best defensive player on the Grizzlies. I'm sorry that the "real 37" thing is in your heads, but it doesn't change reality.
 
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