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State Senators speak out on Williams' Regent Confirmation

AllWeatherFan said:
Please note that the following is from a left-winger who opposes Pat Williams' membership on the Board of Regents:

Individual board members have no power. None. But go right ahead and carry on with the histrionics. :roll:
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true enough, but 4 are a majority, and have all the power:
Todd Buchanan, former Bobcat football player, hates the Griz
Jeffery Krause, former Bozeman mayor, grew a "Cat-Stache" to show support for the Bobcat's in the 2011 Griz-Cat game
Joseph Theil, MSU student Regent
Pat Williams, UM grad who has promised to reign in UM Football.

Think if Pat introduced a resolution to have UM voluntarily decrease football scholarships, especially for out of state athletes, and de-emphasis D-I athletics, these other 3 regents might go for that?

Just saying, it is a possibility. I would hate to see Montana de-emphasize athletics again.
 
mtgrizrule said:
It will be a disappointing day for Montana if PW still gets this BOR seat. Sounds like another member should be gone too. Sorry, just cannot support any member that refers to any college student(s) as thugs.
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Yeah, very sad day. Pat Williams sucks cock by choice. End of story.
 
Phat Cat said:
mtgrizrule said:
It will be a disappointing day for Montana if PW still gets this BOR seat. Sounds like another member should be gone too. Sorry, just cannot support any member that refers to any college student(s) as thugs.
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Yeah, very sad day. Pat Williams sucks cock by choice. End of story.
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you are an ignorant piece of garbage!
 
I would agree there is likely a snowballs chance that Pat Williams will not be confirmed by the committee and full Senate. That said, I would like to see the healing process proceed along, relative to the negative perceptions of the universities football program. In other words, how can negative perceptions that linger, among some folks throughout the state, be addressed?

One way to speed the healing, is for one or more members of the committee to ask Mr. Willimas (I assume he’s present for questioning) something like the following:

Mr. Willimas ... putting aside your comments to the NYT and ESPN about the UM program recruiting thugs (a day before a high profile criminal case was to begin) ... couldn’t you have taken the additional time, as a regent representing the university system, to mention the many changes the university had already implemented in order to steer the ship (many about a year before the interviews)?

Couldn’t you have noted that President Engstrom had terminated the Athletic Director and the Head Coach (among making other personnel changes)?

Couldn’t you have mentioned that an entirely new policy / with procedures had been implemented for overseeing all athletic student discipline, essentially taking it out of the hands of the coaches?

Couldn’t you have mentioned that the school had also implemented general and athletic student educational programs which were meant to mitigate inappropriate behaviors and promote there prevention?

When you had a chance to clarify your statements to the national press the next day (after the storm broke loose) you again seemed to have failed to promote the universities attempts to right the ship. Why is this so?

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No doubt Pat Williams can easily answer these sorts of questions ... but I think one consequence of this is he will have to admit that the university has indeed made a lot of progress. Hmmm.
 
AllWeatherFan said:
Please note that the following is from a left-winger who opposes Pat Williams' membership on the Board of Regents:

Individual board members have no power. None. But go right ahead and carry on with the histrionics. :roll:
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Well, not exactly true since "power" can be measured and exerted in so many different ways. Do you believe any other of the BOR would have been able to have access to national press? And if somehow they did, do you think it would have gotten the attention that being a former U.S. Congressman can bring? If nothing else the lesser members who may have political aspirations of their own may try to curry favor with someone who is well connected. Pat's influence is worth multiple times what other regents could bring. That is power.
 
Don't take it from me. Take it from the Regents themselves:

“Regents have authority only as a board. Individual regents have no authority.”

http://www.mus.edu/data/briefs/Board_of_Regents_Authority-OnePager.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
 
AllWeatherFan said:
Don't take it from me. Take it from the Regents themselves:

“Regents have authority only as a board. Individual regents have no authority.”

http://www.mus.edu/data/briefs/Board_of_Regents_Authority-OnePager.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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The word you used is "power" which is certainly different than "authority".
 
You can state it any way you want. Bully for all of you!

We took a poll of all of our Montana employees and 100 percent thought Pat Williams should not be a regent! Many of our employees are regular folks. Only one of five attorneys is a UM grad. 38% are Bozeman/bobcat educated. Other friends of mine have stated the same thing. We have many women, native americans and others not UM educated. 100 percent against!

Politics as usual. If you are a Dem, love a Dem! Same with Reeps.

Thugs? Why would you allow your wife to set foot in that naughty place? Nope Pat is blowin and gowin, typical lying politician.

Meanwhile back to FOOTBALL and to hell with Williams.
 
Umista said:
We took a poll of all of our Montana employees and 100 percent thought Pat Williams should not be a regent! Many of our employees are regular folks. Only one of five attorneys is a UM grad. 38% are Bozeman/bobcat educated. Other friends of mine have stated the same thing. We have many women, native americans and others not UM educated. 100 percent against!

Politics as usual. If you are a Dem, love a Dem! Same with Reeps.
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Wait, so 100% of your employees are Republicans? I don't get it.
 
Straight from the horses a$$ February 8, 2013.

there have been too many UM athletes convicted or suspended over rapes, assaults or burglaries during the past year

I know of 1 athlete convicted for rape, 1 athlete suspended for rape allegations then acquitted, but am confused with regards to the number of "too many" UM athletes convicted of suspended in 2012 for assaults or burglaries. Did 2Pat just make that $hit up to support his position that he is needed to save the world from UM student athletes?

"We need a better recruiting system because the current recruiting system is letting in too many thugs. And that has to stop,” Williams told the Missoula radio station. “As a member of the Board of Regents, I intend to do what I can to make sure that very limited thuggery stops.”

So which is it 2Pat ".....too many thugs" or ".....limited thuggery"


http://www.standard.net/stories/201...nds-saying-university-montana-recruited-thugs
 
AllWeatherFan said:
So if Pat has "power," it's not because he's a regent, it's because he's Pat. I'll buy that. Are we good?
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To say a regent has no power (regardless of being Pat or not), well... eh, OK, yeah, we're good.
 
goatcreekgriz said:
JBS said:
Windy Boy needs to talk to a couple of guys I know up in Arlee. The woe is me and my land has been taken from me attitude doesn't really work with a reservation and people who have brains and very good leadership.
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How much time have you spent at Rocky Boy? It ain't the Mission Valley or the Flathead Reservation. There are plenty of things to be concerned about regarding Indian country and tribal politics, but your B.S. attitude seems rooted in ignorance. And it has nothing to do with whether Pat Williams belongs on the BOR.
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I spent almost a year up there, building the casino. Was recently saddened to hear of Dr Swans passing. Wasn't a bigger Griz fan than Bob.
 
I'm pretty sure John Mercer showed the power of one regent when he spearheaded the inquisition into UM Athletic finances in 2003-a problem that took one year to completely erase.
Any regent with a favorite ax to grind and the ability to influence three other regents has significant power.
 
"Individual board members have no power. None. But go right ahead and carry on with the histrionics. "

This has become an unnecesary civics debate and political rally. The fact of the matter is that Williams specifically commented in an article known to be about a single athlete on the eve of jury selection. It was either a malicous effort to taint the process or inexcusable negligence. That concern stands before the obvious points made about the impropriety of such a stooge being on the BOR. Its a no brainer if you combine it all. However, politics will win out when it has nothing to do with the legitimate concerns voiced.
 
lotsa said:
"Individual board members have no power. None. But go right ahead and carry on with the histrionics. "

This has become an unnecesary civics debate and political rally. The fact of the matter is that Williams specifically commented in an article known to be about a single athlete on the eve of jury selection. It was either a malicous effort to taint the process or inexcusable negligence. That concern stands before the obvious points made about the impropriety of such a stooge being on the BOR. Its a no brainer if you combine it all. However, politics will win out when it has nothing to do with the legitimate concerns voiced.
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I agree.
 
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