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Mr. Wahlberg goes to Helena UPDATED w/post comments
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Thanks Brint for all you do!
The thing that I noticed while PW was speaking was that he referred to the "students that weren't in the country" anymore while defending his comments. It seems to me that he is trying to bring the Saudi student in to this and make it seem like the Saud is a "thug" as well. That doesn't fly with me because PW certainly didn't specify non-athletic "thugs" in his comments. I just can't get over that and I can't imagine I'm the only one that noticed it.
The thing that I noticed while PW was speaking was that he referred to the "students that weren't in the country" anymore while defending his comments. It seems to me that he is trying to bring the Saudi student in to this and make it seem like the Saud is a "thug" as well. That doesn't fly with me because PW certainly didn't specify non-athletic "thugs" in his comments. I just can't get over that and I can't imagine I'm the only one that noticed it.
BWahlberg said:
Spieker is how its spelled..... Owns Spieker Sprinklers here in Helena and very active in the local community.
Jerry Punch
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GrizPony said:
Jim Foley testifying against PW is a joke. Foley played an instrumental part in many of these administrative fumbles and his word is worth no more than the vitriol that came out of Williams' own mouth.
NativeGriz
Well-known member
Jerry Punch said:
I felt Jim Foley's comments were excellent when you consider he was a good friend. He hit on the key point here. The comments were misleading. It did not matter if it was 6 or 20 or 1 player. It was a grossly irresponsible comment. I feel Foley did a good job of hammering that point home.
Thanks for all your efforts Brint. Kind of ironic in a way, but all the key opponents that testified against Pat’s nomination are Democrats ... I believe. Who knows, maybe that will work to our advantage.
For sure, the machine was in full force do agree ... this isn't over.
On the full floor Im hoping the Republicans will bring up why in the heck do we need life long politicians as regents. As I understand it this is very unusual ... for a regent to be that connected to interest groups. Isn't it obvious, if Pat Williams is on the board he will be in charge ... or at a minimum he will be performing his lone super hero routine ... because that’s what life long politicians do.
That’s exactly what we do not need on the board.
For sure, the machine was in full force do agree ... this isn't over.
On the full floor Im hoping the Republicans will bring up why in the heck do we need life long politicians as regents. As I understand it this is very unusual ... for a regent to be that connected to interest groups. Isn't it obvious, if Pat Williams is on the board he will be in charge ... or at a minimum he will be performing his lone super hero routine ... because that’s what life long politicians do.
That’s exactly what we do not need on the board.
Its a shame that some comments can derail a good mans career last year with probable pressure from the regents but another persons comments will have no ill effect on this decision.
Suprised O'day didn't speak... Did you have any conversations with him Brint?
...Pat Williams comments DID NOT just begin with his article in the New York paper...
The following is from an article in the March 30, 2012 Kaimin (Volume CXIV Issue 90):
Regent Pat Williams, who joined the board in February, said he learned of the firings Thursday morning and had heard second-hand that the president does not appreciate the attitude of athletic department officials.
“Unfortunately, that’s an attitude of imperialism that is too common in the big athletic departments like ours throughout the country,” he said, adding that he supports Engstrom’s decision to fire O’Day and Pflugrad.
Williams said he personally believes the decision was a result of the Athletic Department’s response to allegations of sexual assault and “violent fights” among teammates.
“Neither Mr. O’Day nor Coach Pflugrad have demonstrated publically that they are taking these violent transgressions, which have gone on for years, seriously enough,” he said.
The following is from an article in the March 30, 2012 Kaimin (Volume CXIV Issue 90):
Regent Pat Williams, who joined the board in February, said he learned of the firings Thursday morning and had heard second-hand that the president does not appreciate the attitude of athletic department officials.
“Unfortunately, that’s an attitude of imperialism that is too common in the big athletic departments like ours throughout the country,” he said, adding that he supports Engstrom’s decision to fire O’Day and Pflugrad.
Williams said he personally believes the decision was a result of the Athletic Department’s response to allegations of sexual assault and “violent fights” among teammates.
“Neither Mr. O’Day nor Coach Pflugrad have demonstrated publically that they are taking these violent transgressions, which have gone on for years, seriously enough,” he said.
grizfromhel
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Word in the halls of the capitol (where most of the important stuff gets done) is that even PW's supporters are admitting that the hearing did not help his cause. He spoke far too long and in an overbearing manner; his leaning against the podium was disrespectful and connoted a false familiarity not appropriate to a serious occasion; and most damning of all, is that two former staffers and dedicated Democrats, spoke against his confirmation.
It's not too late for Pat to do the graceful thing ........ decide that his medical issues require him to leave the Board of Regents on his own terms, rather than face the prospect of a bloody rejection.
But don't hold your breath waiting for Pat to do anything gracefully.
One side note: remember that Carol, Pat's wife and co-conspirator, would seemingly be an important ally since she just termed out of the Senate last year. Not the case, however. Carol was not liked by a big group in the Senate, just about all Repubs and even some D's. So she actually hurts his cause rather than supports it.
It's not too late for Pat to do the graceful thing ........ decide that his medical issues require him to leave the Board of Regents on his own terms, rather than face the prospect of a bloody rejection.
But don't hold your breath waiting for Pat to do anything gracefully.
One side note: remember that Carol, Pat's wife and co-conspirator, would seemingly be an important ally since she just termed out of the Senate last year. Not the case, however. Carol was not liked by a big group in the Senate, just about all Repubs and even some D's. So she actually hurts his cause rather than supports it.
