Given the facilities, tradition and boosters, yeah. You would be an outlier if you don’t believe that. You and Hoops, who appear to be the same individual.
Griz have been to the title game one time in that 15 years. I am not saying that’s Hauck’s fault. It just points to the problems in the program. I couldn’t agree more your sentiments.
It may also be an indication a team is up near the top of a very watered down division. If NDSU, SDSU and MSU moved up, the Griz would have a great shot of being in the top 2. Big damn whoop.
Too bad facilities, tradition, and boosters alone don't determine that.
What deficit would the Griz have that would hold them back then?
Location and winning are two off the top of my head. Most kids not from Montana could really care less about tradition and boosters. Montana also lags behind the Dakotas with financial incentives for players.
Maybe, but I like the current FCS. There are a good number of good teams, and a good group of teams that have good or very good years every few years. On the other hand, why be in the bottom of a big group of teams where your team is never going to anywhere close to the top or the top conferences or in the top conferences? I don't see the excitement of not playing extra hard to make the playoffs and have better seeding, and just being left with playing for the conference championship and whatever minor or tiny bowl game might be assigned to you.
Would they?
I'd call Weber 4 wins 8 losses and UND 5 wins 7 losses weak teams by any metric. Those were horrible losses for a team with this much talent. You do realize that last year the Cats lost on the road to #1, #2, at home to #3, and on the road to #6, don't you? #1 by 4 points & had a TD overturned in the last minute, #2 blowout, #3 by 1 point on a blocked extra point in OT, and #6 by 3 points - missed 2 field goals and dropped a td pass. Brutal schedule, but they didn't lose to a patsy. Aren't you famous for this quote "The point is not the record of the teams UM beat, it's the quality and record of the teams UM almost beat." ??? The Griz had a ton of talent this year & returned from a natty run - and shit the bed. That's on the coaches. That's what Egrizzers are concerned about. Not your irrelevant spin doctoring.
I said Weber was weak. Read my post. UM lost to 3 top teams, a decent but not great MV team and a weak Weber team. Davis, MSU and SDSU are not weak teams. UND was not a horrible loss at the time. Those 2 losses were by only a few points. I was discussing the Griz, not the Cats. Why do you have to bring up the Cats even when I'm talking about the Griz? Yes, I used that quote to refer to the losses at SS and Weber a couple years ago. It was specific to that discussion. I stand by that. I have made no argument that the Griz had a great, or almost great, season, or a great or almost great team. In fact, I have said the opposite.
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Location does matter. Climate matters. Everything matters. But keep burying your head in the sand. I am not saying Montana can't do better, but Montana doesn't have all the advantages that you keep saying they do, even over schools like Davis or Weber.
I think we know who is burying their head in the sand. Those that want to minimize the problems with the program.
Well if that's true, your program is in deep shit.
