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Delaney will be BACK!

I was not a huge Phlugrad fan the first 1 1/2 years until I noticed him starting to dial in both his coaching and team talent. The second half of Phlugrad's semi-final season you could just see the improvement each week, and consistency.

I don't blame Mick entirely, but he's the boss of the organization. It is his job to get his coaches to get every ounce of talent out of the players. If that means Worst kicks 50 field goals a day at practice, JP performing open field tackling drills, Jordy stepping up in the pocket, instead of back, the entire secondary doing wrap up drills instead of shoulder pad hits, the O-line punishing/pulverizing anyone in goal line situations, when the other team knows it going to be a run,etc! I just keep seeing the same mistakes every week, and the improvement mild at best!
 
Copper Griz said:
GrizRanger said:
Copper Griz said:
How f'in bad is it when Griz fans are now celebrating barely winning and having no chance of winning the BSC. Celebrate mediocrity all you want - I won't be joining you ass kissing ingrates. If you think this team is well coached - then you are smoking crack. Our defense is awful and just imagine next year when we lose three seasoned linebackers. Mick Delaney is a nice man who did a great job cleaning up the program. He is a mediocre coach and it shows (his assistants are mediocre as well). Nothing about this team says - domination, especially the o-line. Good God - some of you bastards are starting to sound like Can't fans. We should make the playoffs maybe - does'nt that sound great! Holy hell. Embarrassing.

Just exactly what did Mick do to "clean up the program?"

I think other than Hermanson's dipshit move - the program is running fairly smoothly. Rules have been laid down and they are clear for the players. Tow the line or hit the road seems to be the mantra. Was that the case in the past with Pflu and Bobby, well that is another debate. I am no fan of Mick Delaney as a coach, but I do believe he is a disciplinarian that is fair. I will at least give him that

I don't think Delaney is any more of a disciplinarian than prior coaches. The Beau Donaldson situation was the unfortunate incident that got player's attention about consequences of their actions, and hopefully taught young people about such matters.

I agree that Delaney is a nice guy and a mediocre coach (at best), but he has not "cleaned up" any program.
 
ALPHAGRIZ1 said:
Why would anyone be happy he's brought us back to the middle of the pack in the BSC? Even you guys can compete with us now that's how far we have backslid...............

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GrizRanger said:
Copper Griz said:
GrizRanger said:
Copper Griz said:
How f'in bad is it when Griz fans are now celebrating barely winning and having no chance of winning the BSC. Celebrate mediocrity all you want - I won't be joining you ass kissing ingrates. If you think this team is well coached - then you are smoking crack. Our defense is awful and just imagine next year when we lose three seasoned linebackers. Mick Delaney is a nice man who did a great job cleaning up the program. He is a mediocre coach and it shows (his assistants are mediocre as well). Nothing about this team says - domination, especially the o-line. Good God - some of you bastards are starting to sound like Can't fans. We should make the playoffs maybe - does'nt that sound great! Holy hell. Embarrassing.

Just exactly what did Mick do to "clean up the program?"

I think other than Hermanson's dipshit move - the program is running fairly smoothly. Rules have been laid down and they are clear for the players. Tow the line or hit the road seems to be the mantra. Was that the case in the past with Pflu and Bobby, well that is another debate. I am no fan of Mick Delaney as a coach, but I do believe he is a disciplinarian that is fair. I will at least give him that

I don't think Delaney is any more of a disciplinarian than prior coaches. The Beau Donaldson situation was the unfortunate incident that got player's attention about consequences of their actions, and hopefully taught young people about such matters.

I agree that Delaney is a nice guy and a mediocre coach (at best), but he has not "cleaned up" any program.

Fair enough, but if none of the players have disciplinary issues he gets the credit for running a clean program. I think it is safe to say the Griz had more than enough crap happen in previous years that it could be construed as a program in trouble. Does not matter if it was true or not - perception was reality. All of this is debatable, but if the Griz had zero arrests and stayed out of the headlines for negative incidents, we wouldn't be debating this to begin with.
 
Copper Griz said:
How f'in bad is it when Griz fans are now celebrating barely winning and having no chance of winning the BSC. Celebrate mediocrity all you want - I won't be joining you ass kissing ingrates. If you think this team is well coached - then you are smoking crack. Our defense is awful and just imagine next year when we lose three seasoned linebackers. Mick Delaney is a nice man who did a great job cleaning up the program. He is a mediocre coach and it shows (his assistants are mediocre as well). Nothing about this team says - domination, especially the o-line. Good God - some of you bastards are starting to sound like Can't fans. We should make the playoffs maybe - does'nt that sound great! Holy hell. Embarrassing.

You are truly an idiot.
 
GrizRanger said:
Copper Griz said:
How f'in bad is it when Griz fans are now celebrating barely winning and having no chance of winning the BSC. Celebrate mediocrity all you want - I won't be joining you ass kissing ingrates. If you think this team is well coached - then you are smoking crack. Our defense is awful and just imagine next year when we lose three seasoned linebackers. Mick Delaney is a nice man who did a great job cleaning up the program. He is a mediocre coach and it shows (his assistants are mediocre as well). Nothing about this team says - domination, especially the o-line. Good God - some of you bastards are starting to sound like Can't fans. We should make the playoffs maybe - does'nt that sound great! Holy hell. Embarrassing.

Just exactly what did Mick do to "clean up the program?"

I'd like to see the answer to your question to. I'd like to see exactly, not generally, what needed to be cleaned up too.
 
Copper Griz said:
GrizRanger said:
Copper Griz said:
How f'in bad is it when Griz fans are now celebrating barely winning and having no chance of winning the BSC. Celebrate mediocrity all you want - I won't be joining you ass kissing ingrates. If you think this team is well coached - then you are smoking crack. Our defense is awful and just imagine next year when we lose three seasoned linebackers. Mick Delaney is a nice man who did a great job cleaning up the program. He is a mediocre coach and it shows (his assistants are mediocre as well). Nothing about this team says - domination, especially the o-line. Good God - some of you bastards are starting to sound like Can't fans. We should make the playoffs maybe - does'nt that sound great! Holy hell. Embarrassing.

Just exactly what did Mick do to "clean up the program?"

I think other than Hermanson's dipshit move - the program is running fairly smoothly. Rules have been laid down and they are clear for the players. Tow the line or hit the road seems to be the mantra. Was that the case in the past with Pflu and Bobby, well that is another debate. I am no fan of Mick Delaney as a coach, but I do believe he is a disciplinarian that is fair. I will at least give him that

You really don't have a clue. Hauck may be the biggest disciplinarian and hardass ever to coach at UM.
 
hm.grwn.grizfan said:
This will be my only post in this entire thread. I can remember in 2009 (one of our championship runs) when we had several games that could have easily been losses, that just happened to go our way.

2009 Season

Pt 1 - Vs UC Davis, the game went down to the last play, and Davis almost tied it with no time left on the clock. Trumaine Johnson picked a pass and ended the game, however, it could have gone the other way had Davis tied it and sent the game into overtime.

Pt 2 - Vs NAU we went into overtime, and barely won in a shootout that ended with a score of 41-34. Another game that really could have gone either way, and one in which the Griz didn't "DOMINATE".

Pt 3 - Vs EWU. Yet another game we didn't "DOMINATE" under the direction of Bobby Hauck, where we had to gut out a hard fought game, winning 41-34.

Pt 4 - Vs ISU. Hapless ISU had us against the ropes late in the game. I think there was just over two minutes left in the game, and we were down 10-9 vs a TERRIBLE ISU. We had to march the length of the field, and relied on a Brody McKnight field goal to win 12-10.

My point is that we sometimes over glorify the past championship run seasons, as if we didn't have issues in those seasons similar to what we are facing this year. Mick Delaney has players that think the world of him, and would likely go to hell and back to get a win for him. Maybe he's not the "best coach" money can buy, but Bobby had his flaws as well. WE could have easily lost some of those games, and were lucky to escape with wins. The ball bounced our way in those ones, and unfortunately, it didn't bounce our way in a couple games this year. Both the NAU and EWU games were tough losses, but we were never out of those games even though we were outcoached and outplayed the majority of the game. We fell just short of a glorious comeback vs #3 EWU. Pretty cool if you ask me. Shoot, had we not shot ourselves in the foot several times in that one we probably would have won. Vs NAU, we had 2 scoop and scores go the other way, one of which was on the 1 yard line when we were about to score. I don't think this Griz team is that different from the Griz teams of the past. They have there ups and downs, but usually find a way to win. We found a way to win tonight! We are 7-2 and probably in the playoffs if we beat USD next week! We have to face the reality that every season we will not go undefeated, and will face some adversity. This Griz team has responded to adversity well, and I expect great things will happen over the next 4 weeks. Even if we were to somehow lose all four of our final games of the season and miss the playoffs, however, I will still bleed Maroon!

GO GRIZ!!!

Very good post. So true.
 
GlacierGrizX said:
I was not a huge Phlugrad fan the first 1 1/2 years until I noticed him starting to dial in both his coaching and team talent. The second half of Phlugrad's semi-final season you could just see the improvement each week, and consistency.

I don't blame Mick entirely, but he's the boss of the organization. It is his job to get his coaches to get every ounce of talent out of the players. If that means Worst kicks 50 field goals a day at practice, JP performing open field tackling drills, Jordy stepping up in the pocket, instead of back, the entire secondary doing wrap up drills instead of shoulder pad hits, the O-line punishing/pulverizing anyone in goal line situations, when the other team knows it going to be a run,etc! I just keep seeing the same mistakes every week, and the improvement mild at best!

JP has 15 tackles today. Maybe he didn't get em all, but he had a terrific day. JJ is doing play action and rolling out. He doesn't have a problem not stepping up.
 
Copper Griz said:
GrizRanger said:
Copper Griz said:
GrizRanger said:
Just exactly what did Mick do to "clean up the program?"

I think other than Hermanson's dipshit move - the program is running fairly smoothly. Rules have been laid down and they are clear for the players. Tow the line or hit the road seems to be the mantra. Was that the case in the past with Pflu and Bobby, well that is another debate. I am no fan of Mick Delaney as a coach, but I do believe he is a disciplinarian that is fair. I will at least give him that

I don't think Delaney is any more of a disciplinarian than prior coaches. The Beau Donaldson situation was the unfortunate incident that got player's attention about consequences of their actions, and hopefully taught young people about such matters.

I agree that Delaney is a nice guy and a mediocre coach (at best), but he has not "cleaned up" any program.

Fair enough, but if none of the players have disciplinary issues he gets the credit for running a clean program. I think it is safe to say the Griz had more than enough crap happen in previous years that it could be construed as a program in trouble. Does not matter if it was true or not - perception was reality. All of this is debatable, but if the Griz had zero arrests and stayed out of the headlines for negative incidents, we wouldn't be debating this to begin with.

List everything that you think was a problem. I don't think you can.
 
PlayerRep said:
GlacierGrizX said:
I was not a huge Phlugrad fan the first 1 1/2 years until I noticed him starting to dial in both his coaching and team talent. The second half of Phlugrad's semi-final season you could just see the improvement each week, and consistency.

I don't blame Mick entirely, but he's the boss of the organization. It is his job to get his coaches to get every ounce of talent out of the players. If that means Worst kicks 50 field goals a day at practice, JP performing open field tackling drills, Jordy stepping up in the pocket, instead of back, the entire secondary doing wrap up drills instead of shoulder pad hits, the O-line punishing/pulverizing anyone in goal line situations, when the other team knows it going to be a run,etc! I just keep seeing the same mistakes every week, and the improvement mild at best!

JP has 15 tackles today. Maybe he didn't get em all, but he had a terrific day. JJ is doing play action and rolling out. He doesn't have a problem not stepping up.

During JJ's semi-final year, his best ability was to step up in the pocket, and made teams honest up in the middle in both the pass and his run ability. When you role out, you limit both your field-of view ,and your ability to look off defenders. I love that JJ is smart and throws alot of balls away, but there is reason to that. Cross field passes are not a viable option, as the defense has a longer time react, and most the time your throwing mechanics are parallel to line of scrimmage not perpendicular. It also allows the LB's to sag off in pass coverage allowing them to roam instead of being sucked up in the center in their hook to curl zones. Also, in single back spread formations, did we ever option draw it to either the single rb,or JJ QB draw, or was it always a pass? I would also like to see the same thing Sac St did to us at the goal line, via a naked bootleg. Start making defenses guess! In our particular schemes, we are one dimensional, and the defenses know our tendencies.

JP made some magnificent hits today, but still continues to whiff. When he does they go for big gains. He just needs to wrap-up and slow the guy down and wait for help. I think only true tackler on the team is Coyle, (Tripp over pursues sometimes) along with a few select interior D-line. The interior D-line is the only unit I will give kuddos to this week!
 
GlacierGrizX said:
PlayerRep said:
GlacierGrizX said:
I was not a huge Phlugrad fan the first 1 1/2 years until I noticed him starting to dial in both his coaching and team talent. The second half of Phlugrad's semi-final season you could just see the improvement each week, and consistency.

I don't blame Mick entirely, but he's the boss of the organization. It is his job to get his coaches to get every ounce of talent out of the players. If that means Worst kicks 50 field goals a day at practice, JP performing open field tackling drills, Jordy stepping up in the pocket, instead of back, the entire secondary doing wrap up drills instead of shoulder pad hits, the O-line punishing/pulverizing anyone in goal line situations, when the other team knows it going to be a run,etc! I just keep seeing the same mistakes every week, and the improvement mild at best!

JP has 15 tackles today. Maybe he didn't get em all, but he had a terrific day. JJ is doing play action and rolling out. He doesn't have a problem not stepping up.

During JJ's semi-final year, his best ability was to step up in the pocket, and made teams honest up in the middle in both the pass and his run ability. When you role out, you limit both your field-of view ,and your ability to look off defenders. I love that JJ is smart and throws alot of balls away, but there is reason to that. Cross field passes are not a viable option, as the defense has a longer time react, and most the time your throwing mechanics are parallel to line of scrimmage not perpendicular. It also allows the LB's to sag off in pass coverage allowing them to roam instead of being sucked up in the center in their hook to curl zones. Also, in single back spread formations, did we ever option draw it to either the single rb,or JJ QB draw, or was it always a pass? I would also like to see the same thing Sac St did to us at the goal line, via a naked bootleg. Start making defenses guess! In our particular schemes, we are one dimensional, and the defenses know our tendencies.

JP made some magnificent hits today, but still continues to whiff. When he does they go for big gains. He just needs to wrap-up and slow the guy down and wait for help. I think only true tackler on the team is Coyle, (Tripp over pursues sometimes) along with a few select interior D-line. The interior D-line is the only unit I will give kuddos to this week!

OK, fine, but stepping up into the pocket has nothing to do with what you said

JP had a very good day today, and missed very few tackles.
 
GlacierGrizX said:
I was not a huge Phlugrad fan the first 1 1/2 years until I noticed him starting to dial in both his coaching and team talent. The second half of Phlugrad's semi-final season you could just see the improvement each week, and consistency.

I don't blame Mick entirely, but he's the boss of the organization. It is his job to get his coaches to get every ounce of talent out of the players. If that means Worst kicks 50 field goals a day at practice, JP performing open field tackling drills, Jordy stepping up in the pocket, instead of back, the entire secondary doing wrap up drills instead of shoulder pad hits, the O-line punishing/pulverizing anyone in goal line situations, when the other team knows it going to be a run,etc! I just keep seeing the same mistakes every week, and the improvement mild at best!

**Pflugrad**
 
havgrizfan said:
I know, right. Not like we almost lost to Northern Colorado or something

Very true. I was not happy with the way the game went down today. But, we won. I have good friends who are coaches on our team. If we had lost the game, I would of been very unhappy. Not calling for their heads. Eastern is going to be a hand full. Worst part? I've have a friend who played there who started talking shit to me last week after they beat you. Someone needs to kick the red headed step children in the ball sack. I hope it's the Cats. I can understand why griz fans are pissed with the game calling. Some of it is just off the wall. I just don't think Mick called U of M when the shit was hitting the fan. I think they called him. That's my two cents.
 

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