2017 Vim's Montana High School Football Recruiting List

[Atlanta Griz1]

Troy Anderson commits to MSU. Guess the "strong PAC 12 interest" wasn't that strong

Actually, Pac12, Big 10, and MWC all have teams interested. Kid grew up an MSU fan so when the offer came, he took it.

Just like the Butte QB Cook, who will never play Division 1 football, had "serious interest from Oregon and several other FBS programs". Which Big Ten and PAC 12 schools have visited him in Dillon, Montana this spring? That would be considered serious interest

Or like Dylan Hanser (Washington State) and Will Dissly (Washington). Interest is there and will be there through the fall.

I agree with WaGriz4Life, we hear all of the time about kids having "interest" from FBS schools. Does mean he got a letter from them? Big deal. They send letters out to virtually every prospect they MIGHT recruit. If they are seriously interested in him, he will be in regular contact with coaches.

 

[VimSince03]

Actually, Pac12, Big 10, and MWC all have teams interested. Kid grew up an MSU fan so when the offer came, he took it.

Just like the Butte QB Cook, who will never play Division 1 football, had "serious interest from Oregon and several other FBS programs". Which Big Ten and PAC 12 schools have visited him in Dillon, Montana this spring? That would be considered serious interest

Or like Dylan Hanser (Washington State) and Will Dissly (Washington). Interest is there and will be there through the fall.

I agree with WaGriz4Life, we hear all of the time about kids having "interest" from FBS schools. Does mean he got a letter from them? Big deal. They send letters out to virtually every prospect they MIGHT recruit. If they are seriously interested in him, he will be in regular contact with coaches.

...if that is how you guys are viewing this thing, than you are pretty clueless on how recruiting works.

 

[Atlanta Griz1]

Just like the Butte QB Cook, who will never play Division 1 football, had "serious interest from Oregon and several other FBS programs". Which Big Ten and PAC 12 schools have visited him in Dillon, Montana this spring? That would be considered serious interest

Or like Dylan Hanser (Washington State) and Will Dissly (Washington). Interest is there and will be there through the fall.

I agree with WaGriz4Life, we hear all of the time about kids having "interest" from FBS schools. Does mean he got a letter from them? Big deal. They send letters out to virtually every prospect they MIGHT recruit. If they are seriously interested in him, he will be in regular contact with coaches.

...if that is how you guys are viewing this thing, than you are pretty clueless on how recruiting works.

Why don't you educate us then

 

[VimSince03]

Or like Dylan Hanser (Washington State) and Will Dissly (Washington). Interest is there and will be there through the fall.

I agree with WaGriz4Life, we hear all of the time about kids having "interest" from FBS schools. Does mean he got a letter from them? Big deal. They send letters out to virtually every prospect they MIGHT recruit. If they are seriously interested in him, he will be in regular contact with coaches.

...if that is how you guys are viewing this thing, than you are pretty clueless on how recruiting works.

Why don't you educate us then

No I would like to know how you think the recruitment process works from a kids Junior year of high school up until signing day. Go ahead. You should educate all of us first. I provided two perfect examples of Montana kids who were looking at both the Cats and the Griz (Hanser and Dissly) but instead chose two Pac-12 schools after they offered. Those schools were "interested" in those kids after their junior seasons and didn't offer until after their senior seasons. So I provided a good example and instead you guys go with Dallas Cook as an example, who we all knew wasn't getting legitimate interest. That "interest" was getting sparked by you know who in Butte.

 

[SoldierGriz]

I agree with WaGriz4Life, we hear all of the time about kids having "interest" from FBS schools. Does mean he got a letter from them? Big deal. They send letters out to virtually every prospect they MIGHT recruit. If they are seriously interested in him, he will be in regular contact with coaches.

...if that is how you guys are viewing this thing, than you are pretty clueless on how recruiting works.

Why don't you educate us then

No I would like to know how you think the recruitment process works from a kids Junior year of high school up until signing day. Go ahead. You should educate all of us first. I provided two perfect examples of Montana kids who were looking at both the Cats and the Griz (Hanser and Dissly) but instead chose two Pac-12 schools after they offered. Those schools were "interested" in those kids after their junior seasons and didn't offer until after their senior seasons. So I provided a good example and instead you guys go with Dallas Cook as an example, who we all knew wasn't getting legitimate interest. That "interest" was getting sparked by you know who in Butte.

I guarantee I am not an expert, but there is some truth to what Growler is saying. Letters do go out in bunches...I am sure most, if not all, Montana kids named All-State got letters from numerous schools. I guarantee every Montana High School wrestler who won a state championship got letters. It doesn't mean they are being "recruited." There is a big difference between being recruited and getting letters.

But, I am interested in what VIM has to say because I admit - I do not know how it works.

 

[AZDoc]

...if that is how you guys are viewing this thing, than you are pretty clueless on how recruiting works.

Why don't you educate us then

No I would like to know how you think the recruitment process works from a kids Junior year of high school up until signing day. Go ahead. You should educate all of us first. I provided two perfect examples of Montana kids who were looking at both the Cats and the Griz (Hanser and Dissly) but instead chose two Pac-12 schools after they offered. Those schools were "interested" in those kids after their junior seasons and didn't offer until after their senior seasons. So I provided a good example and instead you guys go with Dallas Cook as an example, who we all knew wasn't getting legitimate interest. That "interest" was getting sparked by you know who in Butte.

I guarantee I am not an expert, but there is some truth to what Growler is saying. Letters do go out in bunches...I am sure most, if not all, Montana kids named All-State got letters from numerous schools. I guarantee every Montana High School wrestler who won a state championship got letters. It doesn't mean they are being "recruited." There is a big difference between being recruited and getting letters.

But, I am interested in what VIM has to say because I admit - I do not know how it works.

Really both of you are right. those two MT kids going to pac 12 schools is no different then when we all sit on this board and hope one of our "starred" players doesn't get an offer from a big school. I'm sure they were "receiving interest" from big schools throughout the process as well, eventually deciding where to go. "Back in the day", being an all state player, I got letters from a lot of schools, all over the west at every level. Some were feeler letters and others "recruiting" type letters. things are obviously different now, but there is still a ring of truth to the mass letters being sent. I don't know anything, so just my 2 cents.

 

[VimSince03]

Why don't you educate us then

No I would like to know how you think the recruitment process works from a kids Junior year of high school up until signing day. Go ahead. You should educate all of us first. I provided two perfect examples of Montana kids who were looking at both the Cats and the Griz (Hanser and Dissly) but instead chose two Pac-12 schools after they offered. Those schools were "interested" in those kids after their junior seasons and didn't offer until after their senior seasons. So I provided a good example and instead you guys go with Dallas Cook as an example, who we all knew wasn't getting legitimate interest. That "interest" was getting sparked by you know who in Butte.

I guarantee I am not an expert, but there is some truth to what Growler is saying. Letters do go out in bunches...I am sure most, if not all, Montana kids named All-State got letters from numerous schools. I guarantee every Montana High School wrestler who won a state championship got letters. It doesn't mean they are being "recruited." There is a big difference between being recruited and getting letters.

But, I am interested in what VIM has to say because I admit - I do not know how it works.

Really both of you are right. those two MT kids going to pac 12 schools is no different then when we all sit on this board and hope one of our "starred" players doesn't get an offer from a big school. I'm sure they were "receiving interest" from big schools throughout the process as well, eventually deciding where to go. "Back in the day", being an all state player, I got letters from a lot of schools, all over the west at every level. Some were feeler letters and others "recruiting" type letters. things are obviously different now, but there is still a ring of truth to the mass letters being sent. I don't know anything, so just my 2 cents.

By the way, to clear this up I never denied there weren't a mass amount of letters being sent to top prospects. But when a kid gets a relationship going with a college coach from an FBS school, that to me is "legitimate interest" and not just a letter saying "we are interested." If you don't understand that difference, I can't help you.

 

[KoolMoeDee]

Did Cook end up anywhere?

 

[WaGriz4life]

I agree with WaGriz4Life, we hear all of the time about kids having "interest" from FBS schools. Does mean he got a letter from them? Big deal. They send letters out to virtually every prospect they MIGHT recruit. If they are seriously interested in him, he will be in regular contact with coaches.

...if that is how you guys are viewing this thing, than you are pretty clueless on how recruiting works.

Why don't you educate us then

No I would like to know how you think the recruitment process works from a kids Junior year of high school up until signing day. Go ahead. You should educate all of us first. I provided two perfect examples of Montana kids who were looking at both the Cats and the Griz (Hanser and Dissly) but instead chose two Pac-12 schools after they offered. Those schools were "interested" in those kids after their junior seasons and didn't offer until after their senior seasons. So I provided a good example and instead you guys go with Dallas Cook as an example, who we all knew wasn't getting legitimate interest. That "interest" was getting sparked by you know who in Butte.

No chance a PAC 12 school continues to recruit a kid that decided to commit to a 1AA school. Again, which FBS schools visited him at Beaverhead County High School this spring? Dissly and Hanser never committed to the Griz or the Cats during their recruiting because they knew they had a legit chance to play at the next level. If he is seriously being considered to play at a school like Washington, it is not wise to commit so early. As far as Cook goes, Colter Nuanez guaranteed this board that he would sign with an FBS school, and neither the Cats or Griz offered him.

 

[AZDoc]

No I would like to know how you think the recruitment process works from a kids Junior year of high school up until signing day. Go ahead. You should educate all of us first. I provided two perfect examples of Montana kids who were looking at both the Cats and the Griz (Hanser and Dissly) but instead chose two Pac-12 schools after they offered. Those schools were "interested" in those kids after their junior seasons and didn't offer until after their senior seasons. So I provided a good example and instead you guys go with Dallas Cook as an example, who we all knew wasn't getting legitimate interest. That "interest" was getting sparked by you know who in Butte.

I guarantee I am not an expert, but there is some truth to what Growler is saying. Letters do go out in bunches...I am sure most, if not all, Montana kids named All-State got letters from numerous schools. I guarantee every Montana High School wrestler who won a state championship got letters. It doesn't mean they are being "recruited." There is a big difference between being recruited and getting letters.

But, I am interested in what VIM has to say because I admit - I do not know how it works.

Really both of you are right. those two MT kids going to pac 12 schools is no different then when we all sit on this board and hope one of our "starred" players doesn't get an offer from a big school. I'm sure they were "receiving interest" from big schools throughout the process as well, eventually deciding where to go. "Back in the day", being an all state player, I got letters from a lot of schools, all over the west at every level. Some were feeler letters and others "recruiting" type letters. things are obviously different now, but there is still a ring of truth to the mass letters being sent. I don't know anything, so just my 2 cents.

By the way, to clear this up I never denied there weren't a mass amount of letters being sent to top prospects. But when a kid gets a relationship going with a college coach from an FBS school, that to me is "legitimate interest" and not just a letter saying "we are interested." If you don't understand that difference, I can't help you.

Whoa now little guy...I know the difference more than you know. Don't include me in your little spat. I never brag about who/how/why I know things on this board because of the B.S. that comes from it. Yes, I know some of the coaches, and have for a long time. We have mutual friends, we have hung out, even before coming to the Griz. Yes I've been recruited, played football in college, know and understand the game, coached a little, work in sports medicine currently so deal with high level athletes regularly, and love the Griz. So, yes I understand the differences, and there is no need to get help for that. I generally enjoy your posting on here as you are informed and give good information. I was just trying to smooth out the waters a bit to help this not turn into a disaster as has been the norm lately.

 

[mondayamqb]

Jim Brandenburg described recruiting like this: You're in a bar about 9 o'clock and start a conversation with a very attractive young lady. Your charm is working. But, about midnight you spot and switch to a more stunning possibility. You appear to be in top form. At a quarter to two, an absolute "10" walks in and gives you an encouraging look. Unfortunately this invitation receives a no. You hurry back to #2 as she exits with someone else. And #3, says not in this lifetime. You call a taxi and go home...alone.

 

[VimSince03]

I guarantee I am not an expert, but there is some truth to what Growler is saying. Letters do go out in bunches...I am sure most, if not all, Montana kids named All-State got letters from numerous schools. I guarantee every Montana High School wrestler who won a state championship got letters. It doesn't mean they are being "recruited." There is a big difference between being recruited and getting letters.

But, I am interested in what VIM has to say because I admit - I do not know how it works.

Really both of you are right. those two MT kids going to pac 12 schools is no different then when we all sit on this board and hope one of our "starred" players doesn't get an offer from a big school. I'm sure they were "receiving interest" from big schools throughout the process as well, eventually deciding where to go. "Back in the day", being an all state player, I got letters from a lot of schools, all over the west at every level. Some were feeler letters and others "recruiting" type letters. things are obviously different now, but there is still a ring of truth to the mass letters being sent. I don't know anything, so just my 2 cents.

By the way, to clear this up I never denied there weren't a mass amount of letters being sent to top prospects. But when a kid gets a relationship going with a college coach from an FBS school, that to me is "legitimate interest" and not just a letter saying "we are interested." If you don't understand that difference, I can't help you.

Whoa now little guy...I know the difference more than you know. Don't include me in your little spat. I never brag about who/how/why I know things on this board because of the B.S. that comes from it. Yes, I know some of the coaches, and have for a long time. We have mutual friends, we have hung out, even before coming to the Griz. Yes I've been recruited, played football in college, know and understand the game, coached a little, work in sports medicine currently so deal with high level athletes regularly, and love the Griz. So, yes I understand the differences, and there is no need to get help for that. I generally enjoy your posting on here as you are informed and give good information. I was just trying to smooth out the waters a bit to help this not turn into a disaster as has been the norm lately.

Sorry AZDoc. Wasn't directing the "you" at you if that makes sense. I agreed with your post and I'm not completely disagreeing with WaGriz4Life or AtlantaGriz1 either. I guess this all comes back to whether or not you believe kids will continue to get interest from Pac12, Big 10, or MWC schools even after they have committed to schools like MSU or UM, especially since the kids haven't even played their senior seasons yet. Directed to WaGriz4Life and Atlanta Griz 1, do you two really think FBS coaches aren't going to be paying attention to a prospect during his senior season just because he committed to an FCS school in July before his senior year? So if Troy blows the roof of the place and looks even better this fall, do you think the coaches from bigger schools are going to say (oh we shouldn't waste time on him...he already committed to MSU)?! Recruiting is a cruel game and FBS schools aren't afraid to pull the trigger.

 

[VimSince03]

Jim Brandenburg described recruiting like this: You're in a bar about 9 o'clock and start a conversation with a very attractive young lady. Your charm is working. But, about midnight you spot and switch to a more stunning possibility. You appear to be in top form. At a quarter to two, an absolute "10" walks in and gives you an encouraging look. Unfortunately this invitation receives a no. You hurry back to #2 as she exits with someone else. And #3, says not in this lifetime. You call a taxi and go home...alone.

Awesome analogy. Recruiting is a gamble and you better try to keep all your backup options happy...just in case.

 

[VimSince03]

And also since this is Montana, in-state kids have a connection with MSU and UM. Recruiting is different in Montana due to family ties and tradition (legacy players). There have been numerous amounts of kids with FBS ability stay in-state because of this. FBS schools slow-play kids all the time and the offers are usually never that great from FBS schools. Talent gets overlooked in this state.

 

[Paytonlives]

Ouch! UM has to somehow stop the Glacier to msu pipeline...

[tweet]https://twitter.com/SkylineSportsMT/status/756181005552058369[/tweet]

 

[grizcountry420]

Actually, Pac12, Big 10, and MWC all have teams interested. Kid grew up an MSU fan so when the offer came, he took it.

Just like the Butte QB Cook, who will never play Division 1 football, had "serious interest from Oregon and several other FBS programs". Which Big Ten and PAC 12 schools have visited him in Dillon, Montana this spring? That would be considered serious interest

Or like Dylan Hanser (Washington State) and Will Dissly (Washington). Interest is there and will be there through the fall.

I agree with WaGriz4Life, we hear all of the time about kids having "interest" from FBS schools. Does mean he got a letter from them? Big deal. They send letters out to virtually every prospect they MIGHT recruit. If they are seriously interested in him, he will be in regular contact with coaches.

They send them a letter, he says...

:lol:

 

[Ursus1]

Ouch! UM has to somehow stop the Glacier to msu pipeline...

[tweet]https://twitter.com/SkylineSportsMT/status/756181005552058369[/tweet]

Thanks for nothing Grady Bennett ....

 

[Phat Cat]

Ouch! UM has to somehow stop the Glacier to msu pipeline...

[tweet]https://twitter.com/SkylineSportsMT/status/756181005552058369[/tweet]

Thanks for nothing Grady Bennett ....

I sat with him for three days at the girls class AA tourney this year. I now like him a lot better. Thanks Grady. Lol....

 

[FlyCastingCat]

Ouch! UM has to somehow stop the Glacier to msu pipeline...

[tweet]https://twitter.com/SkylineSportsMT/status/756181005552058369[/tweet]

Thanks for nothing Grady Bennett ....

I sat with him for three days at the girls class AA tourney this year. I now like him a lot better. Thanks Grady. Lol....

The pipeline remains strong. I like that the coaching staff has put so much emphasis on getting the best out of MT.

 

[George Ferguson]

Those are monster gets for the Cats. Fortunate for the Griz I'm hearing two of Vim's other top two guys have zero interest in Montana OR Montana State in Keaton Anderson and Hashley. Heard Anderson is pretty set on going FBS even if it's a preferred w/o, and was told by some coaches that Hashley, at least at the moment, is leaning towards hoops.