Haslam: BK deserves a longer contract

[billingsgriz]

I say give BK at least two if not three years to help with player retention, assistant coach's retention, and recruiting. Given his pedigree and off-field success this far, are we taking a risk ? Sure we would be--just look at The LG and Coach Harris thus far : ( . And having not been a head coach before, Coach K will probably make a few--very few--bonehead mistakes given that he will a long-time, assistant and veteran OC in BP and a former HC in Phen in his ear on game day and before at practices. I just think the pluses out way the minuses in giving him at least a 2 year deal and adds some badly needed stability--we don't need an extreme case of musical chairs @ UM among coaches and players and stability for our program starts with our HC. !!! ( And Coach Delaney did a tremendous job given the s__t show he inherited from Engstrom !!! About 3-4 years ago I met Mick's great-niece managing the Downtown Enterprise Rent-A-Car in Billings and told her, her great uncle was/is a good man and coach and really pulled our program out of a mess and restored stability during his three-year tenure !!! )

I stand by my original statement that we ride it out with the 1 year contract and then re-negotiate after the season. If he can’t win games then all this off the field stuff is meaningless. So let’s wait for what’s most important and the deal with it later on.

And I stand by my original statement--with all due respect--that we give Coach K two, preferably 3 years. This strategy worked with Mick and it will again with Coach K, who like Mick in 2012, was a very successful assistant with no HC experience !!!

 

[MontanaGrizSoccer]

I stand by my original statement that we ride it out with the 1 year contract and then re-negotiate after the season. If he can’t win games then all this off the field stuff is meaningless. So let’s wait for what’s most important and the deal with it later on.

I stand by my original statement that we ride it out with the 1 year contract and then re-negotiate after the season. If he can’t win games then all this off the field stuff is meaningless. So let’s wait for what’s most important and the deal with it later on.

And I stand by my original statement--with all due respect--that we give Coach K two, preferably 3 years. This strategy worked with Mick and it will again with Coach K, who like Mick in 2012, was a very successful assistant with no HC experience !!!

Could all be a moot point if new president decides to hire a new AD. Kent should be worrying about the article that came out that shows the discrepancies between MSU and Griz football budget

 

[Griz til I die]

Could all be a moot point if new president decides to hire a new AD. Kent should be worrying about the article that came out that shows the discrepancies between MSU and Griz football budget

Read the article about the BK contract extension. There’s a section where Haslam talks about his own contract situation and made it sound uncertain about his future. Shinn might pull the trigger.

As for budgets, it’s a good thing we have Marcus Welnel and Grizzlies Sports Properties. Between the new partnership with Destination Missoula and now Montana Knife Company on the turf, that stuff will certainly help. Plus QB Club growth this offseason has been substantial!

 

[Griz til I die]

And I stand by my original statement--with all due respect--that we give Coach K two, preferably 3 years. This strategy worked with Mick and it will again with Coach K, who like Mick in 2012, was a very successful assistant with no HC experience !!!

How are you gonna feel if we give BK a 3 year extension and then we go 8-4 this year? You still gonna think he deserves another couple years when he lost 4 games with an offense that features Ah Yat, Gillman, and Davis? How would he do in 27 without those guys?

We can’t afford to fuck this up. Ride it out with a 1 year deal and then re-evaluate.

 

[Da Boyz Mom]

How are you gonna feel if we give BK a 3 year extension and then we go 8-4 this year? You still gonna think he deserves another couple years when he lost 4 games with an offense that features Ah Yat, Gillman, and Davis? How would he do in 27 without those guys?

We can’t afford to fuck this up. Ride it out with a 1 year deal and then re-evaluate.

Your scenario is not anymore of a given than going undefeated and winning the national championship. Both are possibilities. In the latter scenario (or maybe a possible top 2-3 finish), the added possibility is that BK gets a much better offer elsewhere and leaves, taking players and staff with him. The whole discussion centers on risk versus reward, and you seem to be only looking at one side of the equation.

 

[tourist]

And I stand by my original statement--with all due respect--that we give Coach K two, preferably 3 years. This strategy worked with Mick and it will again with Coach K, who like Mick in 2012, was a very successful assistant with no HC experience !!!

And.....look how that turned out. The die was cast when Bobby H. quit, and told his supposed boss, Haslam, who would be the next HC, and the one year contract thing. The ball, BK's future and that of his staff, and the future of Griz football, was determined by BH's actions, and Haslam's inactions. This was a roll of the dice.

""The die is cast" means a decision has been made and an irreversible course of action has begun. Once the "die" (singular of dice) is thrown, the outcome is out of your hands."

 

[Ut-Grizfan]

I think a 2 year Contract is what he should have gotten but if he doesn't get a Contract extension immediately bare minimum I hope it's baked into or a new contract is put together where if he reaches certain goals he gets more time:

-Wins 9 or more Games During Regular Season
-Beats the Kittens

Etc.

 

[alabamagrizzly]

How are you gonna feel if we give BK a 3 year extension and then we go 8-4 this year? You still gonna think he deserves another couple years when he lost 4 games with an offense that features Ah Yat, Gillman, and Davis? How would he do in 27 without those guys?

We can’t afford to fuck this up. Ride it out with a 1 year deal and then re-evaluate.

I would be cool with 2 but definitely hesitant on 3. Yes, possibly if we went 8-4 there would be some serious concern about retaining him but I don't see us losing 4 regular season games. Not with this team and staff. BK would have to be an absolute shit show for that to happen. Next year? Maybe.

 

[uofmman1122]

I don't understand why people are fear mongering about a situation where he leaves for more money when he's said many times he wants to end his career as head coach for our university. It's one of the reasons he took this job.

No one is going to offer him an FBS job after one season even if he finishes #2. The only way that even materializes is if we win it all, and even then it's highly unlikely an FBS team will try to poach him with a real offer after only one season.

 

[SoldierGriz]

Your scenario is not anymore of a given than going undefeated and winning the national championship. Both are possibilities. In the latter scenario (or maybe a possible top 2-3 finish), the added possibility is that BK gets a much better offer elsewhere and leaves, taking players and staff with him. The whole discussion centers on risk versus reward, and you seem to be only looking at one side of the equation.

The only equation that matters in D1 football is results v results.

Rewards come with wins. BK has exactly zero.

 

[Bobcat99]

I don't understand why people are fear mongering about a situation where he leaves for more money when he's said many times he wants to end his career as head coach for our university. It's one of the reasons he took this job.

No one is going to offer him an FBS job after one season even if he finishes #2. The only way that even materializes is if we win it all, and even then it's highly unlikely an FBS team will try to poach him with a real offer after only one season.

If BK leaves after a season for a better job, that’s a tremendous thing for UM. It means you had a good season! That’s what you want!

 

[Bobcat99]

Not that anybody cares what my opinion is, but KH screwed up by initially only giving BK a one year contract. The guy hasn’t been a HC before, give him at least two years with a low buyout if it doesn’t work. It’s not like you were in a bidding war to get him as a coach.

Now you have it where players, recruits, etc, will be rightfully worried about his status as HC, and you’ll have to extend him before he’s done anything. Just really poor work from KH.

 

[uofmman1122]

If BK leaves after a season for a better job, that’s a tremendous thing for UM. It means you had a good season! That’s what you want!

Exactly! There is literally only one way that's even a remote possibility, and if it happens, anyone here telling you that they'd rather keep BK here for more than one year instead of winning it all are just lying or confused lmao

 

[kemajic]

Not that anybody cares what my opinion is,

One thing you have right.

 

[mthoopsfan]

Not that anybody cares what my opinion is, but KH screwed up by initially only giving BK a one year contract. The guy hasn’t been a HC before, give him at least two years with a low buyout if it doesn’t work. It’s not like you were in a bidding war to get him as a coach.

Now you have it where players, recruits, etc, will be rightfully worried about his status as HC, and you’ll have to extend him before he’s done anything. Just really poor work from KH.

Why would players and recruits be worried about an extension unless the season was going badly?

 

[Downwiththefoe1984]

Extending BK seems like a good plan. It would be nice to see a new AD give him the deal. Haslam is the absolute shits

 

[Bobcat99]

Why would players and recruits be worried about an extension unless the season was going badly?

Because coaches on an expiring contract are generally always looked at as a question mark. It’s why you don’t see it happen very often in college football.

 

[Hoops watcher]

He said that this will be his last job no matter what, so not sure what you're talking about here.

I just don't think it's too much to ask for him to at least get through a couple games before we even think about an extension.

The entire staff signed up for this when they agreed to stay/join, and a lot of them might retire if we move on, anyways, so I don't see that as much of an issue.

Obviously to highlight his superior sagacity in case anyone missed it.....

 

[Hoops watcher]

There's always a chance you're gonna lose players after a season, even if the coach sticks around. Hell, we lost more this last year than I think any other year under Hauck in the NIL era. I've kind of already just assumed we'll probably lose at least Ah Yat and Davis after this season, even if BK gets extended.

BK did a great job keeping guys in the 2nd transfer window, but I think any good coach we found should be able to keep a lot of them, too, and if not, that's why you go get a guy that can handle it and build the program even without them.

True story, roster stability on every level is but a dream moving forward.

 

[Hoops watcher]

I stand by my original statement that we ride it out with the 1 year contract and then re-negotiate after the season. If he can’t win games then all this off the field stuff is meaningless. So let’s wait for what’s most important and the deal with it later on.

They could revisit the issue later in the season before the transfer follies season starts, in fact I would think it would be necessary if it looks like a path to continue on with BK.