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jacksfan29 said:
'68griz said:
GrizWhiz said:
The Griz-Spuds game today looked like it was being played in a mausoleum. Maybe 200 fans were there. This can't go on. It is an embarrassment. :oops:

I totally agree. But, have you watched any of the other tournaments? Aside from the ACC, Big 12 and Pac-12, attendance isn't much better. I think it's just a general lack of interest in the conference tournaments.

Not really true. The problem with the BSC is location. Reno makes no sense, no one in Reno cares about the BSC. Billings would draw and draw well. You have to be THE GAME in the city if you want attendance. Plus it has to be close enough to your teams that draw the best (UM, Weber, MSU) to get fans to attend. Sioux Falls may not be a destination of choice for many but the Summit League tournament draws which makes the league look great on TV, brings in publicity for the conference and assists in recruiting. The USD v SDSU semi-final session drew over 11,000 this year, what would an UM v MSU semi, or final in Billings draw? Capacity?

https://www.thesummitleague.org/sports/mbkb/2016-17/releases/20170308n357b3

The Billings Metra seats 10,500 for basketball...Reno's Lawlor Center a tad over 11,000
 
Please, North Dakota, as you join the ranks of Boise State, Nevada, CS-Northridge and Gonzaga as a former conference champion who ultimately exited the Big Sky ...take the Griz with you to the Summit Conference. A new affiliation there, or anywhere else, would have to be an improvement for both parties.
 
Butte wouldn't happen as a venue because it is "too hard" to get in and out of via plane - same excuse that the ncaa gives about Missoula all the time.
 
IdaGriz01 said:
AZDoc said:
fanofzoo said:
Any of the 6 top teams hosting the tournament would have outdrawn the entire week of reno, easily,
In addition to having a basketball atmosphere.

It's real bad...was hoping the championship would be better.
At least the referees are letting them play! I like that a lot.
Perhaps true for awhile ... but a total of 54 fouls called (admittedly, including the OT) is not pretty. Four players fouled out and five more were within one of going too. Puke. :(

Yeah it got chippy...then they clamped down
 
http://www.thespectrum.com/story/sports/college/southern-utah/2017/03/11/big-sky-needs-move-its-tournament-las-vegas/99076506/

When the final official attendance numbers come out for the 2017 Big Sky Conference tournament, they will show a pretty decent increase in attendance from last year’s tournament. Don’t let that fool you. The tournament in Reno is not a success. And it won’t ever be.

Las Vegas doesn’t need the Big Sky Conference, but it’s pretty clear the Big Sky needs Las Vegas.

Look no further than the WAC tournament going on this weekend in Sin City.

On Friday, while Weber State and Eastern Washington were playing an entertaining game in front of a sparse crowd at the Reno Events Center for the chance to play for the Big Sky championship, Utah Valley and Cal State Bakersfield were playing in front of loud, raucous crowds that featured large student sections in the WAC semifinals.

It’d be insane to think that UVU has a bigger following than Weber State. And it’s not all that easier to get from Orem to Vegas than it is to get from Ogden to Reno. So why the big difference in fan interest?

While I have always found Las Vegas a bit overrated, most people (especially of the college student variety) love that place and will look for any excuse to go there. A basketball tournament gives them one heckuva excuse. The Pac-12 tournament regularly sells out, the West Coast Conference averaged 7,404 fans per game at its 2016 tournament, the Mountain West has often sold out its championship game in the 18,500-seat Thomas and Mack Center. And now the WAC looks like it's taking advantage of the Vegas spotlight, too.

The Big Sky should jump on board. Over the last two years, the Big Sky fans and students have made it very clear that they don’t want to go to Reno. It's hard to travel to, and outside of a day trip to Tahoe or a night in a casino, there's just not that much to do.

The conference stated before this year’s tournament that one of its primary goals was to improve the championship experience for the players. The conference added athlete lounges, hung banners and signs around the city, and there were tournament brackets littered throughout the casinos. But if the Big Sky really cares about creating a good championship experience, it needs to move the tournament to a place fans actually want to travel to.

It looked like a championship event was happening in Reno, but it never really felt like it.

There is no amount of signs or banners that could cover up the complete lack of atmosphere in the city and in the Reno Events Center.

Fans and students flock to Vegas for the MWC, WCC, WAC and Pac-12 tournaments, making the strip feel like a college campus for a week. It’s an awesome environment filled with energy and excitement. Something that isn't felt in Reno.

Change can't happen immediately. The Big Sky is locked into another year in the Biggest Little City in the World, but it shouldn’t even think about re-upping. Reno is a tired city, and the downtown area is in badly need of a facelift. I’m sure the city and arena officials are great to work with and the casinos like the influx of teams and administrators that come in. But there’s a reason Reno wanted the tournament -- it needed help bringing people to the city.

When the decision was made to move the conference tournament to a neutral site, the Big Sky originally wanted to join the fun in Sin City. There was just nowhere to play. But that doesn’t appear to be a problem anymore.

The Pac-12 tournament moved to the new T-Mobile Arena, leaving the MGM Grand Garden Arena without a tournament. Even if one of the other three tournaments currently in the city moves into the MGM Grand, it still leaves an open spot. The Big Sky should do everything it can do fill that vacancy.

The future success of the conference tournament could hinge on it.

I'm not a crazy about Vegas as a tourney location either, but it sure makes a hell of a lot more sense than ReNO.
 
Paytonlives said:
The whole reno thing is a

POS idea.


Well... the folks at the Big Sky Conference say that the tourney, this year, was a huge success (article written by former Missoulian sports editor, Bob Meseroll).

http://www.bigskyconf.com/news/2017/3/12/MBB_0312172944.aspx
 
grizzlyjournal said:
Paytonlives said:
The whole reno thing is a

POS idea.


Well... the folks at the Big Sky Conference say that the tourney, this year, was a huge success (article written by former Missoulian sports editor, Bob Meseroll).

http://www.bigskyconf.com/news/2017/3/12/MBB_0312172944.aspx

Well I guess that reality is what you make of it, always "alternative facts".
 
fanofzoo said:
grizzlyjournal said:
Paytonlives said:
The whole reno thing is a POS idea.
Well... the folks at the Big Sky Conference say that the tourney, this year, was a huge success (article written by former Missoulian sports editor, Bob Meseroll).

http://www.bigskyconf.com/news/2017/3/12/MBB_0312172944.aspx
Well I guess that reality is what you make of it, always "alternative facts".
Obviously, the spokespeople for the BSC and the Reno tourism outfit live in their own reality -- and have to be upbeat. But I'm mildly surprised that the reporter seemed to buy into that reality, with not a bit of skepticism, or "yes, but ...," or anything else doubtful. What's with the "former ... sports editor" description? I looked at his Facebook page, and his employment status seems ambiguous. It does not say he works for the Big Sky Conference, however. So is he now freelance? I doubt very much that the perks that come with a press pass could "buy" anybody, so I guess he thinks the "party line" is okay.

My take-away from the article leads to an oddity, with actually putting butts in the seats coming off as a third priority. Year one was just the basics: Where are the bathrooms? Who sits where? How do we get to and from the hotel? And so on. Year two was all about marketing goodies: Room key tags (Whoo-hooo!), greeters at the door (Wal-Mart?), more signs up (presumably), etc. Only in year three are they going to worry about how many fans show up. Well –- Each to his/her own! -- I guess.
 
To draw the circus out for an entire week is cruel, inhumane and shows no fore sight by the bcs.
 
imagine a circus with no audience........I can't believe the Big Sky Conference is actually happy with the attendance. :oops:
 
putter said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
GrizWhiz said:
I know this, if the tournament was in Billings, Spokane or even Butte, I would go. Reno, though, is out of the question.

Honestly, why do people keep throwing Butte into the discussion?

Has a large enough facility to host the tournament, lodging may be the only issue but it would be close. Easy drive from Bozeman and Missoula and a lot of local fans will make that drive rather than fly to Reno. Realistically, EWU, UM, MSU, ISU, Weber and SUU could all drive to Butte. Not as wild of an idea as you make it seem, it can't be much more difficult than holding a Montana high school state basketball tournament with 16 teams....

THANK YOU Putter, I agree lodging would possibly be an issue. It would be a unique spot to have the tournament at the least.
 
The_Real_Chief said:
putter said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
GrizWhiz said:
I know this, if the tournament was in Billings, Spokane or even Butte, I would go. Reno, though, is out of the question.

Honestly, why do people keep throwing Butte into the discussion?

Has a large enough facility to host the tournament, lodging may be the only issue but it would be close. Easy drive from Bozeman and Missoula and a lot of local fans will make that drive rather than fly to Reno. Realistically, EWU, UM, MSU, ISU, Weber and SUU could all drive to Butte. Not as wild of an idea as you make it seem, it can't be much more difficult than holding a Montana high school state basketball tournament with 16 teams....

THANK YOU Putter, I agree lodging would possibly be an issue. It would be a unique spot to have the tournament at the least.

Butte has a zero percent chance of hosting, and I would be fairly certain it is not even on the BSC's radar.
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
The_Real_Chief said:
putter said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
Honestly, why do people keep throwing Butte into the discussion?

Has a large enough facility to host the tournament, lodging may be the only issue but it would be close. Easy drive from Bozeman and Missoula and a lot of local fans will make that drive rather than fly to Reno. Realistically, EWU, UM, MSU, ISU, Weber and SUU could all drive to Butte. Not as wild of an idea as you make it seem, it can't be much more difficult than holding a Montana high school state basketball tournament with 16 teams....

THANK YOU Putter, I agree lodging would possibly be an issue. It would be a unique spot to have the tournament at the least.

Butte has a zero percent chance of hosting, and I would be fairly certain it is not even on the BSC's radar.

Maybe some of them read this board and will now take it into consideration.
 
The_Real_Chief said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
The_Real_Chief said:
putter said:
Has a large enough facility to host the tournament, lodging may be the only issue but it would be close. Easy drive from Bozeman and Missoula and a lot of local fans will make that drive rather than fly to Reno. Realistically, EWU, UM, MSU, ISU, Weber and SUU could all drive to Butte. Not as wild of an idea as you make it seem, it can't be much more difficult than holding a Montana high school state basketball tournament with 16 teams....

THANK YOU Putter, I agree lodging would possibly be an issue. It would be a unique spot to have the tournament at the least.

Butte has a zero percent chance of hosting, and I would be fairly certain it is not even on the BSC's radar.

Maybe some of them read this board and will now take it into consideration.

They are probably laughing just like I am at the suggestion.
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
The_Real_Chief said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
The_Real_Chief said:
THANK YOU Putter, I agree lodging would possibly be an issue. It would be a unique spot to have the tournament at the least.

Butte has a zero percent chance of hosting, and I would be fairly certain it is not even on the BSC's radar.

Maybe some of them read this board and will now take it into consideration.

They are probably laughing just like I am at the suggestion.

We shall see only time will tell, i'd love to see ESPN tuning in LIVE from Butte America!
 
The_Real_Chief said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
The_Real_Chief said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
Butte has a zero percent chance of hosting, and I would be fairly certain it is not even on the BSC's radar.

Maybe some of them read this board and will now take it into consideration.

They are probably laughing just like I am at the suggestion.

We shall see only time will tell, i'd love to see ESPN tuning in LIVE from Butte America!

Opheim is just as likely to land the tournament.
 
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2017/mar/14/big-sky-reno-optimistic-about-future-tournaments/

Big Sky, Reno optimistic about future tournaments

The Big Sky Conference believes it’s on a winning streak in the Biggest Little City on the World.

The conference just completed the second of a three-year deal to hold its postseason basketball tournaments in Reno, Nev. By all accounts, the event is trending upward – on and off the court.

“I think our folks are really pleased with Year Two,” said Big Sky commissioner Andrea Williams, who was hired last summer.

“Last year was creating and building a foundation. This year it was setting our expectations a little bit higher in terms of what our fans and participants should experience when they come in for the Big Sky championship,” Williams said.

Neither the Big Sky nor the Reno Sparks Visitors and Convention Authority reported any major glitches during the six-day, 23-team event at the Reno Events Center.

“This being our second year of a neutral site, predetermined location, it’s been going very well,” Williams said. The fact that all of our schools and teams can come and compete and you have men’s and women’s in the same city, same venue, same week, it creates a camaraderie across our conference.”

It also boosted interest. Final numbers aren’t in, but ticket sales were up from last year, according to Jason Ashcraft, director of communications for the conference.

Shelli Fine, director of sports development for the Reno Sparks Visitors and Convention Authority, said everything ran smoother this year.

“I have dealt with the gamut from A to Z of the tournament, from the marketing side, from the tickets to the hotels, to the rooms – all that,” Fine said.

“I will tell you that with most events of this magnitude everything in Year 2 goes twice as smooth,” Fine said.

So what about Year 3, which is the final year of the current contract?

“Going into Year 3 we want to build on that in terms of butts in seats,” Williams said. “We want to increase our attendance and create that great electric atmosphere for our student athletes. We’ve had incredible games.”

At the same time, the conference needs to have a backup plan for 2019 and beyond.

Williams said the league will entertain bids from other cities. Two years ago the Big Sky received bids from Spokane, Billings, Missoula, Ogden, Utah; and Loveland-Greeley, Colo.

Fine hopes that Reno continues to be at the top of that list.

“If ticket sales continue to gain strength … I would absolutely hope we have an opportunity to look at (2019) and beyond. To put all this work into three years and then let it go would seem kind of silly,” Fine said.
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
The_Real_Chief said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
The_Real_Chief said:
Maybe some of them read this board and will now take it into consideration.

They are probably laughing just like I am at the suggestion.

We shall see only time will tell, i'd love to see ESPN tuning in LIVE from Butte America!

Opheim is just as likely to land the tournament.

How many times does it have to be said that Butte is not a likely candidate...however, if you look with an open mind, the Civic Center could handle the amount of people that currently go to the conference tournament. Lodging would be the issue but getting to Butte would be relatively easy for most teams. Opheim does not have these thing going for it! :thumb:
 
putter said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
The_Real_Chief said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
They are probably laughing just like I am at the suggestion.

We shall see only time will tell, i'd love to see ESPN tuning in LIVE from Butte America!

Opheim is just as likely to land the tournament.

How many times does it have to be said that Butte is not a likely candidate...however, if you look with an open mind, the Civic Center could handle the amount of people that currently go to the conference tournament. Lodging would be the issue but getting to Butte would be relatively easy for most teams. Opheim does not have these thing going for it! :thumb:
I believe the Opheim public school gym could easily accomodate the number of people who actually attended the games in Reno. :thumb: The tournament belongs at the home of the regularl season champion.
 
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