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You still don’t have a QB. Can’t go anywhere without a QB :roll:poorgriz said:
garizzalies
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Not only are they missing a QB, but they are also missing a strong pass rusher—basically the most important positions on both sides of the ball. It’s like the Choate-led boobcats are being led astray.
Murray may not be a great qb, but I think he's a good one. 2d in conference in rushing, at over 100 per game. 5.9 yards per carry. MSU was 3d in 3d down conversion percentage, ahead of the Griz. MSU was 1st in 4th down conversion percentage, at 78%. He was only 51.5% in passing percentage and threw 9 picks. He was 26 yards behind Jensen in total offense. He's dangerous. He certainly has hurt the Griz the past 2 years.
PlayerRep said:
He's obviously an excellent runner and the passing and decision making is improving. if he starts and stays healthy in 2018 he'll no doubt have much better stats with better receivers and improved O line, and a schedule that isn't quite the bloodbath we had last year. That said, there are a bunch of fans that think that Rovig or Jonsen (Transfer, former 4 star) are the real deal and will beat out Murray for the starting job. Either way, you can count on MSU being better at QB in 2018, barring injury. Will be a hell of a competition in the Spring. A rare occurence where I totally agree with PR in his outlook on the Cats, and also agree Hauck will get the griz back to competing for the Big Sky title.... I just think it might take a couple years.
poorgriz said:
It all fairness, all of you said the exact same thing last year regarding Murray. It went on and on about how improved he was and how much better he was and how much more amazing he was because Denarius got him dialed in. Spring ball came and the legend grew, people saying it was night and day how much better he was.
And then the season came. Three games in people want him to be benched. He completed 45% a year prior and improved to a whopping 51%. Rinse lather repeat in bobcat land
Catsrgrood
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HookedonGriz said:
Can’t really argue too much, but did you watch many of his games either year besides cat/griz?
He was absolutely a better passer last year. Great? Not even close, but that just shows how over his head he was as a 17 yr old starting his freshman year.
He had a few games where he really looked like the real deal passing it last year, but then seemed to regress towards the second half of the season.
I don’t think anyone is claiming that the Cats will have an all American qb next year, but I’d be very surprised (and disapointed) if the qb play isn’t noticeably better next year. Whether that’s Murray continuing to progress, Rovig taking over, or Jonsen coming in and playing anywhere near his former 4* rating.
That is where the optimism comes from. Run game is good, WR’s seem to be solid, defense as a whole should be one of the better ones in the BSC again, all that’s needed is some good qb play to be at or near the top of the conference.
Time will tell.
HookedonGriz said:
His passing improved by leaps and bounds last year. Went from 780 to 1,600 yards passing. from 6 passing TD's to 15. Much tougher schedule in 2017 as well. 51% isn't anywhere close to good enough and he needs to make significant improvement this year as well if he wants to keep the job. Rovig is chomping at the bit and Choate brought Jonsen in to compete and either win the job or elevate that QB room.
garizzalies
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:lol: all I need is a million dollars and I’ll be a millionaireCatsrgrood said:
Pretty much every team in FCS can say what you just said. Hell, every team at every level. You are as good as your qb, and yours is pretty shitty, particularly when doing his primary function.
Problem is, good qbs don’t sprout from shit ponds, and they’re either born accurate or not. Your guy could have sprouted from a shit pond for all I know but he was not born with the it factor.
The Fussers really have not been that good since the original red rifle—the last time you’ve had a good qb. Murray is basically the Age of Denarious 2.0. Maybe a better runner but not a better passer, and the Irish lad was not that great of a passer either
I really do hope you guys keep trying to “develop” him into a better passer.
Great passer or not Murray is a gamer and most dangerous QB on 3rd down in the BSC.
On 3rd and anything opposing coaches had their butts puckered and Murray had the confidence he could get a first down. I don't know how much his teammates view him has a leader , however if they do believe in him I would not replace him at QB even if the other QB is an amazing passer. Just the threat that he is with his running ability makes up for some of his accuracy issues.
On 3rd and anything opposing coaches had their butts puckered and Murray had the confidence he could get a first down. I don't know how much his teammates view him has a leader , however if they do believe in him I would not replace him at QB even if the other QB is an amazing passer. Just the threat that he is with his running ability makes up for some of his accuracy issues.
garizzalies said:
I laughed at the bold.
Overall solid post, too. It reminds me of when Phil Mickelson tried out for the Toledo Mudhens and his heater topped out at 68. He said something like, "They told me all I need is about 20 mph on my fastball, and I can come back!"
And he seemed serious.
garizzalies
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That Lefty analogy is spot on. Pure gold. Bobcat gold rush pee stain gold.
And just like Lefty, the Cat People are totally serious, too!
And just like Lefty, the Cat People are totally serious, too!
SeattleBobcat
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PlayerRep said:
You know what's easy to spot? Douche bag narcissists. Why do you feel the need to drop a name like every 3 posts? Cause you're a giant douche bag.
And I've played the game, not at the college level but I didn't realize only former NFLers where the only ones to be allowed to be fans of the game, btw that cancels out your trick ass too. Should we meet at the Mo Club to settle this? Oh wait I'm to busy on a two week vacation in Cozumel to give 2 shits about what you think. Glad my MSU education affords me the good life.
At least CDA was witty with his response.
SeattleBobcat said:
I could tell you never played the game. So tell us about Cozumel, your narcissist. You think going to Cozumel indicates the good life. That's pretty funny. Yup, I like to make comments that irk insecure and jealous people like yourself. What kind of person spends his time posting and trolling on another team's message board. That says a lot about you, in my view. You are such an idiot.
garizzalies
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PR you missed the worst part of that post—the troll is on his rival’s board while supposedly on vacay in Mexico. If it’s a lie, that’s pathetic. If it’s true, that’s even worse.
I happen to read about a new nickname for Choate-led cat fans: “choalates.” Which are salt crystals of bile.
I happen to read about a new nickname for Choate-led cat fans: “choalates.” Which are salt crystals of bile.
