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spsyk said:
grizindabox said:
spsyk said:
grizindabox said:
I think Stitt's offense puts a lot of the load on the QB, and injuries and poor play from that position was a big part of why the offense was so inconsistent....Will he find a QB capable to run his system...I say yes, but even his time at CSM tells you he was not able to find one all the time....as for the Griz rushing game at UNDSU....the OL got its ass handed to them....and for everyone asking why he didn't change QB's....no reason to play a guy you don't see on the roster next year...

All season long poster stated Willy P will be the answer for 2016, how that working out ?

What does that have to do with Stitt.....are you saying he posts on egriz.....


Grow up, keep the the dialog on an adult level, nothing was said by me about coach Stitt posting, I was stating a fact that most in this forum where high on Willy P and coach Stitt should the posters what he thought of him,by cutting him.

And another sore subject about cutting Willy P, why did he wait till the end of the season to do it?

And that had zero to do with what I posted.....and why would any coach cut a scholarship athlete during the season....but to add info, Stitt had yanked Willy P from scout team QB weeks before the season ended....replaced him with a kicker that isn't even with the program anymore....
 
This thread is so fucking stupid. Every page is the same exact thing. I was hoping for another Festivus miracle, but no.

YES, some of you don't like the coach. You've made it apparent. Mission accomplished. Nobody cares. If you haven't convinced everyone else to hate him in 10 pages, it's likely not going to happen. By all means, though, keep trying.
 
grizindabox said:
Once again....maybe Stitt isn't great...maybe Stitt couldn't tweak his offense to match the players....maybe what he inherited for athletes was a little lacking at some positions.....but does this mean that he can not succeed when he is able to fill positions with a player that matches the demands of the position within his offense.....
Reminder, the 2015 UM football team was a better team with better athletes than Stitt has ever coached in his entire life. The only person who had not played at that level before was ... the coach.
 
UMGriz75 said:
grizindabox said:
Once again....maybe Stitt isn't great...maybe Stitt couldn't tweak his offense to match the players....maybe what he inherited for athletes was a little lacking at some positions.....but does this mean that he can not succeed when he is able to fill positions with a player that matches the demands of the position within his offense.....
Reminder, the 2015 UM football team was a better team with better athletes than Stitt has ever coached in his entire life. The only person who had not played at that level before was ... the coach.

That doesn't mean that they were better athletes than his opponents....and quit stalking me from thread to thread and budding in on my conversations...
 
grizindabox said:
spsyk said:
grizindabox said:
I would also add that Barnum brought in a drop down to play QB...to run what he wanted to do.....

Again what a good coach does, didn't coach Stitt know what he had as far as athletes

Once again....maybe Stitt isn't great...maybe Stitt couldn't tweak his offense to match the players....maybe what he inherited for athletes was a little lacking at some positions.....but does this mean that he can not succeed when he is able to fill positions with a player that matches the demands of the position within his offense.....


I want to touch on the athletes again....there were several positions, especially on offense, that the athletes were average or below even for the BSC.....pretty big reason why the offense was inconsistent all season long....

Please, don't blame athletes, they were good enough to beat the Cats, make the playoffs, and not because of outstanding offensive coaching, and that is a fact that you can't deny
 
OK. IF THE SKY FALLS ON US WITH STITT.... WHAT IS A PERSON TO DO?

1 Call Royce?

2. Contact Haslam?

3. Ask Bobby?

4. Re-call Alpha?

5. Ask S Dill for advice?

6. Quit bitching? Not a chance!
 
spsyk said:
grizindabox said:
spsyk said:
grizindabox said:
I would also add that Barnum brought in a drop down to play QB...to run what he wanted to do.....

Again what a good coach does, didn't coach Stitt know what he had as far as athletes

Once again....maybe Stitt isn't great...maybe Stitt couldn't tweak his offense to match the players....maybe what he inherited for athletes was a little lacking at some positions.....but does this mean that he can not succeed when he is able to fill positions with a player that matches the demands of the position within his offense.....


I want to touch on the athletes again....there were several positions, especially on offense, that the athletes were average or below even for the BSC.....pretty big reason why the offense was inconsistent all season long....

Please, don't blame athletes, they were good enough to beat the Cats, make the playoffs, and not because of outstanding offensive coaching, and that is a fact that you can't deny

spsyk....even you know that football is about matchups.....EWU and MSU were not built to take advantage of the weaknesses of the Griz....they were mediocre teams....
 
CDAGRIZ said:
This thread is so f***[*] stupid. Every page is the same exact thing. I was hoping for another Festivus miracle, but no.

YES, some of you don't like the coach. You've made it apparent. Mission accomplished. Nobody cares. If you haven't convinced everyone else to hate him in 10 pages, it's likely not going to happen. By all means, though, keep trying.

It's not a conversation about not liking or hating coach Stitt, I am sure he is a good family man and I'm not sure a good Morman practicing he faith, it's about his ability to coach at the FCS level, and I'm not sure he has accomplished this yet, some say yes and some no although it has nothing to do with disliking or hating him.

If you are not interested in the conversation, there are other threads.
 
spsyk said:
CDAGRIZ said:
This thread is so f***[*] stupid. Every page is the same exact thing. I was hoping for another Festivus miracle, but no.

YES, some of you don't like the coach. You've made it apparent. Mission accomplished. Nobody cares. If you haven't convinced everyone else to hate him in 10 pages, it's likely not going to happen. By all means, though, keep trying.

It's not a conversation about not liking or hating coach Stitt, I am sure he is a good family man and I'm not sure a good Morman practicing he faith, it's about his ability to coach at the FCS level, and I'm not sure he has accomplished this yet, some say yes and some no although it has nothing to do with disliking or hating him.

If you are not interested in the conversation, there are other threads.

Fine. Some think he has the ability, some don't. Same mechanics at play.
Also, there is no conversation. It's the same thing written over and over using different words.
Finally, Morman?
 
grizindabox said:
spsyk said:
grizindabox said:
spsyk said:
Again what a good coach does, didn't coach Stitt know what he had as far as athletes

Once again....maybe Stitt isn't great...maybe Stitt couldn't tweak his offense to match the players....maybe what he inherited for athletes was a little lacking at some positions.....but does this mean that he can not succeed when he is able to fill positions with a player that matches the demands of the position within his offense.....


I want to touch on the athletes again....there were several positions, especially on offense, that the athletes were average or below even for the BSC.....pretty big reason why the offense was inconsistent all season long....

Please, don't blame athletes, they were good enough to beat the Cats, make the playoffs, and not because of outstanding offensive coaching, and that is a fact that you can't deny

spsyk....even you know that football is about matchups.....EWU and MSU were not built to take advantage of the weaknesses of the Griz....they were mediocre teams....


Well, MSU, probably not, you are aware of what happen to Ash, because of his production thru his tenure I'm a little surprised about EWU, I really thought they would be up to the challenge, and where not.

Again, athletes won the game, with WR play, and QB that got them the ball, and a stellar defense.
 
grizindabox said:
UMGriz75 said:
grizindabox said:
Once again....maybe Stitt isn't great...maybe Stitt couldn't tweak his offense to match the players....maybe what he inherited for athletes was a little lacking at some positions.....but does this mean that he can not succeed when he is able to fill positions with a player that matches the demands of the position within his offense.....
Reminder, the 2015 UM football team was a better team with better athletes than Stitt has ever coached in his entire life. The only person who had not played at that level before was ... the coach.
That doesn't mean that they were better athletes than his opponents....
That's true, opposing teams fielded better athletes with better coaches than Stitt has ever faced before as well; good thing he had an experienced UM Griz team to work with. Go Griz!
 
spsyk said:
grizindabox said:
spsyk said:
grizindabox said:
Once again....maybe Stitt isn't great...maybe Stitt couldn't tweak his offense to match the players....maybe what he inherited for athletes was a little lacking at some positions.....but does this mean that he can not succeed when he is able to fill positions with a player that matches the demands of the position within his offense.....


I want to touch on the athletes again....there were several positions, especially on offense, that the athletes were average or below even for the BSC.....pretty big reason why the offense was inconsistent all season long....

Please, don't blame athletes, they were good enough to beat the Cats, make the playoffs, and not because of outstanding offensive coaching, and that is a fact that you can't deny

spsyk....even you know that football is about matchups.....EWU and MSU were not built to take advantage of the weaknesses of the Griz....they were mediocre teams....


Well, MSU, probably not, you are aware of what happen to Ash, because of his production thru his tenure I'm a little surprised about EWU, I really thought they would be up to the challenge, and where not.

Again, athletes won the game, with WR play, and QB that got them the ball, and a stellar defense.

but EWU and MSU defenses were so poor that they could not take advantage of the offensive weakness that the Griz had....once again.....games are won with matchups and if you can are not good enough to take advantage of the other teams weakness or counter their strengths you will probably lose.....if you rank Griz position groups against like groups....there are several that are average or worse....this is different than the matchup against a group on the other side of the ball for an opponent...
 
UMGriz75 said:
grizindabox said:
UMGriz75 said:
grizindabox said:
Once again....maybe Stitt isn't great...maybe Stitt couldn't tweak his offense to match the players....maybe what he inherited for athletes was a little lacking at some positions.....but does this mean that he can not succeed when he is able to fill positions with a player that matches the demands of the position within his offense.....
Reminder, the 2015 UM football team was a better team with better athletes than Stitt has ever coached in his entire life. The only person who had not played at that level before was ... the coach.
That doesn't mean that they were better athletes than his opponents....
That's true, opposing teams fielded better athletes with better coaches than Stitt has ever faced before as well; good thing he had an experienced UM Griz team to work with. Go Griz!

pure speculation on your part.....also, how much experience did he have on the offensive side of the ball.....QB.....OL.....just wondering......
 
grizindabox said:
UMgriz75 said:
That's true, opposing teams fielded better athletes with better coaches than Stitt has ever faced before as well; good thing he had an experienced UM Griz team to work with. Go Griz!
pure speculation on your part.....also, how much experience did he have on the offensive side of the ball.....QB.....OL.....just wondering......
Oh, I'm pretty sure that Chris Klieman is a better coach than the coach of Chadron State. I don't think that's really "speculation." For that matter, Coach Ash was a much better coach than the coach of Chadron State .... which then beat Mines as coached by Stitt ....

But, you know, "pure speculation" that BSC coaches were just not up there with Rocky Mountain Athletic Conference coaches ... :roll:
 
spsyk said:
Look, all the great coaches keep it simple and make sure athletes execute, case in point NDSU four NC in a row, every DC knows what coming, and can't do nothing about it, because it is simple and well executed.

NDSU wins because they have the biggest and best athletes AND they keep it simple. When we try to match them at their game we end up with games like the 2014 22-10 loss. Respectable? I guess. But Stitt's system allows us to actually beat them (which we did, once). And how do you think they felt when they lost despite having better athletes?

spsyk said:
Putting the load on one skill player to run your offensive QB is a disaster waiting to happen, exciting for the fans however seldom wins NC as smash mouth football with a dynamic defense.

Stitt runs a version of the West Coast offense. It stretches the field with a lot of short throws so that midrange and longer runs and passes open up. Doesn't that sound like the games where our offense was clicking? Think of the longer runs that opened up for Nguyen, and imagine them with Calhoun!

from Wikipedia: The West Coast offense requires a quarterback who throws extremely accurately, and often blindly, very close to opposing players. In addition, it requires the quarterback to be able to quickly pick the best one of five receivers to throw to,

Like it or not, this also sounds a lot like our offense. But many West Coast teams have been among the most consistently successful in the NFL. I like it.
 
UMGriz75 said:
grizindabox said:
UMgriz75 said:
That's true, opposing teams fielded better athletes with better coaches than Stitt has ever faced before as well; good thing he had an experienced UM Griz team to work with. Go Griz!
pure speculation on your part.....also, how much experience did he have on the offensive side of the ball.....QB.....OL.....just wondering......
Oh, I'm pretty sure that Chris Klieman is a better coach than the coach of Chadron State. I don't think that's really "speculation." For that matter, Coach Ash was a much better coach than the coach of Chadron State .... which then beat Mines as coached by Stitt ....

But, you know, "pure speculation" that BSC coaches were just not up there with Rocky Mountain Athletic Conference coaches ... :roll:

You assuming that all the coaches that Stitt faced this season are better than any coach he faced while at CSM is nothing but speculation on your part.....I would wager to guess that many people would say that a certain coach at Pueblo is probably better than many BSC coaches....
 
spsyk said:
grizindabox said:
spsyk said:
grizindabox said:
Once again....maybe Stitt isn't great...maybe Stitt couldn't tweak his offense to match the players....maybe what he inherited for athletes was a little lacking at some positions.....but does this mean that he can not succeed when he is able to fill positions with a player that matches the demands of the position within his offense.....


I want to touch on the athletes again....there were several positions, especially on offense, that the athletes were average or below even for the BSC.....pretty big reason why the offense was inconsistent all season long....

Please, don't blame athletes, they were good enough to beat the Cats, make the playoffs, and not because of outstanding offensive coaching, and that is a fact that you can't deny

spsyk....even you know that football is about matchups.....EWU and MSU were not built to take advantage of the weaknesses of the Griz....they were mediocre teams....


Well, MSU, probably not, you are aware of what happen to Ash, because of his production thru his tenure I'm a little surprised about EWU, I really thought they would be up to the challenge, and where not.

Again, athletes won the game, with WR play, and QB that got them the ball, and a stellar defense.

Two points on the Eastern match-up with the Griz this season. One, VA was obviously very important to that team's domination of the Griz the last few years. Two, the Griz safeties this season were more athletic....These factors led to the more favorable match-up IMO.
 
spsyk said:
stubbins said:
AllWeatherFan said:
stubbins said:
Take a list of posters who think that Stitt was a bad hire...

spsyk
kemajic
75
all Cat fans...

Griz57000
Bobby H.
Willy P.


Ya know, most of the poster that blindly support coach Still, also believed that Willy P was the next Dave Dickinson, without him ever playing in a FSC game, now, it goes to show you that you don't know much about athletes, since coach Stitt cut his ass without him every playing a game, it lead me to believe you don't know much about what makes a good coach.

Now arguably this is suppose to be the best recruiting class in the history of Griz football, again without the athletes never being in a college game, however recruited by coach Stitt so that makes this the best recruiting class.

Now,with losing the majority of the starters on defense, the DC and the most respected assistant gone,we will more than likely have DC with about the same creditals as the head coach and OC.

I think it's going to take coach Stitt a little longer than all of you and coach Stitt think it going to take to bring the Griz back to where we all want it to be, if ever.

I'll bet you whatever you want that you won't find one post from me anointing Willy. You might find one or two where I was skeptical of him. Do some research before you make blatantly false and ridiculously stupid posts...

This looks to be a good class on paper, but again, find one post where I've said this is the best recruiting class ever...that takes 2-3 years to know. Also, every school and fan base across the country judges their recruiting class, but you're going to bitch about the ones in this fan base that think it's a good recruiting class?

SAME AS A NEW COACH....we all have our opinions, I think Stitt's going to prove a lot of people wrong, you think he's going to fail. Whether you think I can judge coaches, players or peanut butter entries at the local fair doesn't mean two shits to anyone...I'll just leave the expert opinion on coaching to you.....
But if you think it takes a while for recruiting classes to show how good they are, and for a coach to prove himself...then why so fucking negative?

DC gone doesn't hurt, most respected assistant was going to move up if God himself was the coach of the Griz. He was, by all accounts, a rising star.....

If you think it's going to take a bit of time, then why not try and have some patience...I don't have the fucking time to see what you said during Pflu's first year, but I think I have an idea....
 
Grizz Man said:
spsyk said:
the Griz team of 2015, was loaded with IMO good athletes, good enough to win the Big Sky, beat the Cats and make the playoffs, accomplished all except win the Big Sky, and again IMO games won because of good athletes, not outstanding offensive coaching, and credit for the defense in winning a game or two

My hat's off to the Griz players and especially the D for playing their hearts out and making it a successful season. But your post is wrong: QB, RB, and offensive line were all big question marks coming into the season. We beat 2 teams, NDSU and SDSU, that probably had better and bigger athletes than we did. I'm not sure that last year's Griz team (with Delaney and JJ) would have beaten SDSU - we'll never know, of course...

Stitt did just fine, considering it was his first year.


and, there is no way in fucking hell that the old regime would've beaten NDSU....
 
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