This just in...JJ's Back!

[RobGriz]

Hopefully, he will be able to petition the NCAA for another year. If not he only has 1 year.

This is incorrect...a student-athlete has 5 years to compete 4. JJ played sparingly in year 1, led the Griz to the semifinals in year 2, and did not play in year 3 due to the cluster. He still has 2 years of eligibility remaining.

Actually you are incorrect. Not trying to start crap, but, while an atlete has 5 years, one of those has to be a redshirt and JJ did not have a redshirt year. SO JJ will have to petition the ncaa for a redshirt for last year. If he does AND the NCAA grants it he should have, as you pointed out 2 years. The clock starts the second you hit the field. If you take a year off, get suspended, quit, go on a mission or...whatever, the clock doesn't stop then start again it just keeps on running.

Redshirt process is just a formality, the last season will be JJ's redshirt and he will have 2 years of eligibility remaining. The thing that has me wondering is if the NCAA will find a reason to make JJ ineligible moving forward and all of this is a mute point.

I understand it is just a formality. Doesn't mean he doesn't have to do it.

 

[asumike83]

Great news for the Griz!

As if I wasn't already looking forward to the Missoula trip enough, this could make things even more interesting. First game of the post-Jerry Moore era for Appalachian and Johnson's first game back for Montana.

Should be one hell of a game. I'm expecting a true heavyweight fight, although I already was.

 

[Kokanee]

Does this mean we will see him for spring camp, or is that another issue?

 

[grizzbud]

Congrats Jordy!!!! Awesome news and now we can get back to football and the winning ways of the Griz!

 

[grizindabox]

This is incorrect...a student-athlete has 5 years to compete 4. JJ played sparingly in year 1, led the Griz to the semifinals in year 2, and did not play in year 3 due to the cluster. He still has 2 years of eligibility remaining.

Actually you are incorrect. Not trying to start crap, but, while an atlete has 5 years, one of those has to be a redshirt and JJ did not have a redshirt year. SO JJ will have to petition the ncaa for a redshirt for last year. If he does AND the NCAA grants it he should have, as you pointed out 2 years. The clock starts the second you hit the field. If you take a year off, get suspended, quit, go on a mission or...whatever, the clock doesn't stop then start again it just keeps on running.

Redshirt process is just a formality, the last season will be JJ's redshirt and he will have 2 years of eligibility remaining. The thing that has me wondering is if the NCAA will find a reason to make JJ ineligible moving forward and all of this is a mute point.

I understand it is just a formality. Doesn't mean he doesn't have to do it.

And it will be granted. If the NCAA is going to screw JJ, it will not be on the redshirt issue.

 

[Grizbacker1]

What year of eligibility will he have?

Hopefully, he will be able to petition the NCAA for another year. If not he only has 1 year.

This is incorrect...a student-athlete has 5 years to compete 4. JJ played sparingly in year 1, led the Griz to the semifinals in year 2, and did not play in year 3 due to the cluster. He still has 2 years of eligibility remaining.

Actually you are incorrect. Not trying to start crap, but, while an atlete has 5 years, one of those has to be a redshirt and JJ did not have a redshirt year. SO JJ will have to petition the ncaa for a redshirt for last year. If he does AND the NCAA grants it he should have, as you pointed out 2 years. The clock starts the second you hit the field. If you take a year off, get suspended, quit, go on a mission or...whatever, the clock doesn't stop then start again it just keeps on running.

and you know this because?.....................

 

[grizatheart]

I got an email from Linda Cardinal that says:

JOHNSON TO REJOIN UM FOOTBALL TEAM

MISSOULA, MONTANA (3/5/13) –

The University of Montana’s Athletic Conduct Team has reinstated Jordan Johnson to the football team after hearing his appeal on Monday. UM President Royce Engstrom also approved the reinstatement.

Johnson appealed his suspension from the team over the weekend. He is back on the team effective immediately.

 

[Filthy McGrizzly]

I was fishing with a cat fan this weekend who was convinced he would never see JJ in a Griz uni ever again.I told him to give it a week. Gonna be a rough day for him today :lol: :lol:

 

[RobGriz]

This is incorrect...a student-athlete has 5 years to compete 4. JJ played sparingly in year 1, led the Griz to the semifinals in year 2, and did not play in year 3 due to the cluster. He still has 2 years of eligibility remaining.

Actually you are incorrect. Not trying to start crap, but, while an atlete has 5 years, one of those has to be a redshirt and JJ did not . SO JJ will have to petition the ncaa for a redshirt for last year. If he does AND the NCAA grants it he should have, as you pointed out 2 years. The clock starts the second you hit the field. If you take a year off, get suspended, quit, go on a mission or...whatever, the clock doesn't stop then start again it just keeps on running.

His redshirt is just a formality. He will have 2 years left.

Maybe we should get RG a book on the very basics of redshirt rules, and teach him how to count to 5. Petition the ncaa for a redshirt year. Now that's pretty funny.

Every student-athlete at BC has five years from the time they enroll in classes full-time for the first time in order to fit in four years of eligibility. If you use up those four years of eligibility in your first four years of college, then that’s all you get. If you don’t play until your fifth year of college, you only get to play one season
The absence of a definition notwithstanding, a student-athlete redshirts when they do not participate in any intercollegiate competition during a given academic year. The main reason for purposely redshirting a student-athlete is to preserve a year of their eligibility. The moment a student-athlete competes for a single second of time or a single play, they will use up one of their four years of eligibility. “Intercollegiate competition” includes any contests against outside competition, regardless of how the competition is classified (e.g., scrimmages, exhibitions, etc.). (NCAA Bylaw 14.02.6)

 

[RobGriz]

Actually you are incorrect. Not trying to start crap, but, while an atlete has 5 years, one of those has to be a redshirt and JJ did not have a redshirt year. SO JJ will have to petition the ncaa for a redshirt for last year. If he does AND the NCAA grants it he should have, as you pointed out 2 years. The clock starts the second you hit the field. If you take a year off, get suspended, quit, go on a mission or...whatever, the clock doesn't stop then start again it just keeps on running.

Redshirt process is just a formality, the last season will be JJ's redshirt and he will have 2 years of eligibility remaining. The thing that has me wondering is if the NCAA will find a reason to make JJ ineligible moving forward and all of this is a mute point.

I understand it is just a formality. Doesn't mean he doesn't have to do it.

And it will be granted. If the NCAA is going to screw JJ, it will not be on the redshirt issue.

Very true.

 

[griz71]

I was fishing with a cat fan this weekend who was convinced he would never see JJ in a Griz uni ever again.I told him to give it a week. Gonna be a rough day for him today :lol: :lol:

Cat fans eatin' crow---happens on a regular...right! :lol:

 

[pussycatkillerz]

Great news for the Griz!

As if I wasn't already looking forward to the Missoula trip enough, this could make things even more interesting. First game of the post-Jerry Moore era for Appalachian and Johnson's first game back for Montana.

Should be one hell of a game. I'm expecting a true heavyweight fight, although I already was.

my god

I CAN F'KIN WAIT FOR THIS GAME!!!

 

[RobGriz]

This is incorrect...a student-athlete has 5 years to compete 4. JJ played sparingly in year 1, led the Griz to the semifinals in year 2, and did not play in year 3 due to the cluster. He still has 2 years of eligibility remaining.

Actually you are incorrect. Not trying to start crap, but, while an atlete has 5 years, one of those has to be a redshirt and JJ did not . SO JJ will have to petition the ncaa for a redshirt for last year. If he does AND the NCAA grants it he should have, as you pointed out 2 years. The clock starts the second you hit the field. If you take a year off, get suspended, quit, go on a mission or...whatever, the clock doesn't stop then start again it just keeps on running.

His redshirt is just a formality. He will have 2 years left.

Maybe we should get RG a book on the very basics of redshirt rules, and teach him how to count to 5. Petition the ncaa for a redshirt year. Now that's pretty funny.

Maybe you and I could get together and you could explain it to me. I will be at Paradise Falls this afternoon at 3:30 if you want to come down.

 

[grizpsych]

Here is an overview of the rules for NCAA eligibility. And, it comes from a pretty valid source, the NCAA.

http://www.ncaa.org/blog/2011/12/reevaluating-the-most-important-rule/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Long story short, "redshirt" is not really a term in the actual rule (14.2.1). Rather, for division I athletes, you have 5 consecutive years to play 4 years of your given sport. This 5-year time limit can be stopped for many reasons. But, at least in the rule, the time clock will not be stopped for being suspended due to being accused of rape. Thus, JJ will have to petition the NCAA to be made an exception to the rule. My guess is that he would get his exception, but him receiving one more year is not a given.

Here is the link to the NCAA Bylaw. https://web1.ncaa.org/LSDBi/exec/bylawSearch?bylawSearchSubmit=Get%20Selected%20Items&multiple=731&division=1&adopted=0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

 

[RobGriz]

Here is an overview of the rules for NCAA eligibility. And, it comes from a pretty valid source, the NCAA.

http://www.ncaa.org/blog/2011/12/reevaluating-the-most-important-rule/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Long story short, "redshirt" is not really a term in the actual rule (14.2.1). Rather, for division I athletes, you have 5 consecutive years to play 4 years of your given sport. This 5-year time limit can be stopped for many reasons. But, at least in the rule, the time clock will not be stopped for being suspended due to being accused of rape. Thus, JJ will have to petition the NCAA to be made an exception to the rule. My guess is that he would get his exception, but him receiving one more year is not a given.

Get ready for playarape to come and tell you how stupid you are for knowing the rules.

 

[grizpsych]

Here is an overview of the rules for NCAA eligibility. And, it comes from a pretty valid source, the NCAA.

http://www.ncaa.org/blog/2011/12/reevaluating-the-most-important-rule/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Long story short, "redshirt" is not really a term in the actual rule (14.2.1). Rather, for division I athletes, you have 5 consecutive years to play 4 years of your given sport. This 5-year time limit can be stopped for many reasons. But, at least in the rule, the time clock will not be stopped for being suspended due to being accused of rape. Thus, JJ will have to petition the NCAA to be made an exception to the rule. My guess is that he would get his exception, but him receiving one more year is not a given.

Get ready for playarape to come and tell you how stupid you are for knowing the rules.

Oh, like most, I'm already used to it.

 

[AZGrizFan]

So, if he's back on the team "effective immediately", does that mean he's eligible for Spring ball? Or is there still the credit issue to work through?

 

[GrizPony]

And the dangerous dance continues.....

 

[PlayerRep]

Actually you are incorrect. Not trying to start crap, but, while an atlete has 5 years, one of those has to be a redshirt and JJ did not . SO JJ will have to petition the ncaa for a redshirt for last year. If he does AND the NCAA grants it he should have, as you pointed out 2 years. The clock starts the second you hit the field. If you take a year off, get suspended, quit, go on a mission or...whatever, the clock doesn't stop then start again it just keeps on running.

His redshirt is just a formality. He will have 2 years left.

Maybe we should get RG a book on the very basics of redshirt rules, and teach him how to count to 5. Petition the ncaa for a redshirt year. Now that's pretty funny.

Every student-athlete at BC has five years from the time they enroll in classes full-time for the first time in order to fit in four years of eligibility. If you use up those four years of eligibility in your first four years of college, then that’s all you get. If you don’t play until your fifth year of college, you only get to play one season
The absence of a definition notwithstanding, a student-athlete redshirts when they do not participate in any intercollegiate competition during a given academic year. The main reason for purposely redshirting a student-athlete is to preserve a year of their eligibility. The moment a student-athlete competes for a single second of time or a single play, they will use up one of their four years of eligibility. “Intercollegiate competition” includes any contests against outside competition, regardless of how the competition is classified (e.g., scrimmages, exhibitions, etc.). (NCAA Bylaw 14.02.6)

So what is the point of posting this? Everyone else already knew this. JJ participated his frosh and sophomore year. Last fall was his redshirt year. Now he has two years left.

By the way, JJ is a full-time student this semester, and also was in the fall. Don't know where the Kaimin came up with its incorrect information in an article several days ago.

 

[Fahque]

Considering that JJ was not an official member of the team during the past season, would he be able to gray shirt instead of redshirt? Or how would him not officially being on the team last season effect any of this?

http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/public/NCAA/Resources/Behind+the+Blue+Disk/Division+I+Football+Recruiting" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

a student athlete may be offered the opportunity to redshirt for up to two years, which allows the athlete to spread those four years of eligibility over five, or sometimes six years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redshirt_(college_sports" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false