The Griz only lost by 5...

[Fushiznitz]

You need to learn to deal with the facts. UM lost to EWU by 5 points--42-37. The poll voters moved UM down 2 slots, from 12 to 10. They must not have thought to much of the loss. UM is 6-2. Deal with it. I suppose you'll continue being a jerk, though.

And esto significa que, idiota on 4 Jan 2014 in Frisco? You wear estúpido lentes color de rosa.

Guiños para tu esposa :tounge:

Troll on.

="Although I am all-knowing, I don't speak Spanish".

 

[Speedy Grizzales]

No trolling aquí manteca ass

 

[JBS]

To me it wasn't the losing by 5 that bothers me....it's the getting down by 25 in the 2nd half that bothers me that NECESSITATES a miracle comeback like that...

Yeah that was ridiculous. Seems that they were so damn stubborn with their original game plan that wasn't working and seemed as if they didn't have a Plan B. Or maybe that was Plan B but engaged it to late. Still stupid no matter how it went down. Yeah Canada broke free once for a 28 yard TD but not much happened after that with the run attack.

The easiest way to keep defenses honest is to mix up the Gameplan...

Wrong

The easiest way to keep defenses honest is to execute the plays you are given to run.

We haven't been doing that.

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I'm not sure why people to continue trying to kiss up to you. That was just a plain stupid thing you said, if you were serious. The plays the Griz were given to run didn't work in the first quarter, second quarter, third quarter, and most of the fourth quarter, with few exceptions. If they couldn't execute a delay right or a delay left for 3/4 of the game, why would a coach continue trying it? I would think he would figure it out. Bad execution on 3/4 of your offensive gameplan means that it is a bad gameplan. Blame the players, fine, but to continue doing it is stupid. Since you generalized, I will too. What if it was 3rd and goal from the 9 and the play they were given to run was a qb sneak. Would failure mean bad execution?

BTW, You are only funny when you post under your alter egos. Deny away.

 

[NLGrizFan]

... to the #3 team in the Entire Nation. And a penalty costed them the game. It's not as if the Griz rack up penalties every game. A game got away from them. It happens. And in the last two games they had to play catch up instead of jumping on top of them and not letting them up. The Griz let them up and they took off... Til the 4th quarter. Take away the penalty and they tore them a new asshole 28-0. But it didn't go down that way cuz a hand got 4" to high. Don't forget, we're talking about the #3 team in the nation, that carries the #1 passer in the nation and the Griz hung with them and put it to them in "throw down" time. I'm gonna stick to the NAU game as a wtf game because it happened in 2011 and we all remember that team. 2012 coulda been a totally different season with JJ. I say throw the 2012 stats out the window. The Griz were playing with an arm tied behind their back.
Over the last 4 games JJ stats:

EWU: Final 37-42
26/44, 349 yds & 4 TDs

CP: Final 21-14
22/39, 242 yds & 2 TDs

UCD: Final 42-7
12/20, 163 yds & 2 TDs

PSU: Final 55-27
12/24, 203 yds & 4 TDs

Now I could sit here all day and I can't see a pattern. The Griz aren't prone to penalties or turnovers. Maybe there isn't any patterns.

This isn't a bad team. When they bare their teeth and get after it they can tear teams up. I'm convinced it was a rare penalty that cost the game. Say what you will but 5 points against the #3 team isn't bad, and a costly penalty is what I'm sticking to.

GREAT POST. We did only lose by 5 to the mighty #3 team in the country. I am shocked that we moved down in the polls. We should have at least stayed at #10 or even moved up a spot or two because we almost beat them. The loss was only by 5. Damn voters. Don't they realize that EWU was #3 and we came really, really close. If not for getting down 42-17 we would have beaten them. I mean, come on, their QB is the top in all of FCS and torched us for 6 TD's and was named National Player of the Week. How were we supposed to compete and win. The fact that we only lost by 5 should mean something!!!!!

Hey I was just tryin to kick up something positive but if your gonna be a bitch about it that's fine. Sit in your corner and cry and pray and hope for a new coach and then bitch and cry some more about the D and some more about the O line... Whatever the fuck gets you off. I'm just tired of all the fucking cry baby shit I see. Here's the fact. Shit ain't gonna change. Mick and Co will be back next season and guess what, to start the season off the Griz have 2 tough road games. Might start the season 0-2. Start cryin about that. Lets get it over with so we don't have to hear it again next season to start the season and end the summer. C'mon, I know you've got them big crocodile tears ready.... Let it out...

 

[nzone]

I disagree. We played a very good 1st half on the offensive side of the ball. The only play that really hurt us on offense was the fumble on our own 15 or so. The defense wasn't able to get it done in the 1st half not the offense. Remember we didn't have Goodwin. That and poor tackling killed us in the 1st half. To start the 2nd half when we intercepted and failed to convert was totally unacceptable play calling.

 

[NLGrizFan]

I disagree. We played a very good 1st half on the offensive side of the ball. The only play that really hurt us on offense was the fumble on our own 15 or so. The defense wasn't able to get it done in the 1st half not the offense. Remember we didn't have Goodwin. That and poor tackling killed us in the 1st half. To start the 2nd half when we intercepted and failed to convert was totally unacceptable play calling.

Yes sir. It was the 2011 game vs SHSU all over again. Catch up mode, 2nd half come back... but ran outta time. I thought they played very well in the 4th quarter. You could almost say Lights Out. But again, time played a factor.

 

[fanofzoo]

The easiest way to keep defenses honest is to mix up the Gameplan...

Wrong

The easiest way to keep defenses honest is to execute the plays you are given to run.

We haven't been doing that.

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WRONG

The easiest way to keep defenses honest is to RUN PLAYS THAT THE DEFENSE DOESN'T KNOW YOU ARE GOING TO RUN.

We haven't been doing that.

Seems to me I remember an opposing coach recently saying he thought the offense was very difficult to prepare for because we could run 6-8 different plays from the same "set"...

Then why don't we?

 

[CV Griz Fan]

If the coaches don't matter, someone explain ohio state to me. Struggling team, new staff...and scadoosh! Unbeaten in two years.

They haven't played anybody good

Keep saying that Brady. I know you're sad you even took the HC job at Michigan. LOL.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Wrong

The easiest way to keep defenses honest is to execute the plays you are given to run.

We haven't been doing that.

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WRONG

The easiest way to keep defenses honest is to RUN PLAYS THAT THE DEFENSE DOESN'T KNOW YOU ARE GOING TO RUN.

We haven't been doing that.

Seems to me I remember an opposing coach recently saying he thought the offense was very difficult to prepare for because we could run 6-8 different plays from the same "set"...

Then why don't we?

Well, I don't think he made it up.

 

[NLGrizFan]

WRONG

The easiest way to keep defenses honest is to RUN PLAYS THAT THE DEFENSE DOESN'T KNOW YOU ARE GOING TO RUN.

We haven't been doing that.

Seems to me I remember an opposing coach recently saying he thought the offense was very difficult to prepare for because we could run 6-8 different plays from the same "set"...

Then why don't we?

Well, I don't think he made it up.

Maybe MD and crew don't know that you can run 6-8. :lol:

 

[jodcon]

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[BWahlberg]

An analogy of the 2013 Griz according to eGriz...

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Awesome. :thumb:

 

[1Griz_Fan]

An analogy of the 2013 Griz according to eGriz...

Our view of the Griz coaching...

eGriz members actual knowledge of coaching...

How we see ourselves as football fans...



How we actually are as football fans...





Our view of the playbook...


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How we think we handle other people's opinions...


How we actually handle other people's opinions...


Maybe a little exaggerated but we all know it's true.

It's funny because it's true. Good post.

 

[1Griz_Fan]

... to the #3 team in the Entire Nation. And a penalty costed them the game. It's not as if the Griz rack up penalties every game. A game got away from them. It happens. And in the last two games they had to play catch up instead of jumping on top of them and not letting them up. The Griz let them up and they took off... Til the 4th quarter. Take away the penalty and they tore them a new asshole 28-0. But it didn't go down that way cuz a hand got 4" to high. Don't forget, we're talking about the #3 team in the nation, that carries the #1 passer in the nation and the Griz hung with them and put it to them in "throw down" time. I'm gonna stick to the NAU game as a wtf game because it happened in 2011 and we all remember that team. 2012 coulda been a totally different season with JJ. I say throw the 2012 stats out the window. The Griz were playing with an arm tied behind their back.
Over the last 4 games JJ stats:

EWU: Final 37-42
26/44, 349 yds & 4 TDs

CP: Final 21-14
22/39, 242 yds & 2 TDs

UCD: Final 42-7
12/20, 163 yds & 2 TDs

PSU: Final 55-27
12/24, 203 yds & 4 TDs

Now I could sit here all day and I can't see a pattern. The Griz aren't prone to penalties or turnovers. Maybe there isn't any patterns.

This isn't a bad team. When they bare their teeth and get after it they can tear teams up. I'm convinced it was a rare penalty that cost the game. Say what you will but 5 points against the #3 team isn't bad, and a costly penalty is what I'm sticking to.

I agree with a lot of your post, however, there is no way that one penalty is what cost the Griz the game. It certainly did not help matters but there were multiple factors that cost them the game. The fumble that led to a third down TD being one reason but that alone did not cost them the game either, it was more than those two plays.

IMO it was a combination of mistakes and missed opportunities along with some piss poor play calling and/or execution. An offensive coach that calls a draw on 3rd and 13 while another coach who had been aggressive all season long gets confused and thinks it's 4th and 8 instead of 4th and short so he sends on a kicker he has already proven he lacks confidence in. We all know what play they would have ran if they did go for it anyway so EWU would have probably had a good idea too.

I can see your point, crystal clear. All I was looking at was how they came alive in the 4th quarter and with the limited time left the TD that was called back had turned into a missed FG (I think). With the points running up that quick and EWU not reacting or not being able to react is how I am looking at it. Yes lots of mistakes made throughout the game but the 4th quarter was almost flawless. Well, maybe flawless is to much but the D played well, the O was doing very nice, the scoreboard was evolving, seemed that they coulda pulled it off without that penalty. The score could have been 44-42 Griz. But after the penalty/TD ordeal things woulda changed. I would have to guess. The Griz probably wouldn't have went for 2 and just kicked the PAT but even if that was the case it woulda been 45-42. Going off of if the rest of the game played out the way it did. Wasn't it a reporter that messed up MD's quote on the 4th & 8 tho? I thought that was cleared up on a different thread.

First, I hope it was a reporter's error on the 4th and 8 instead of Delaney not knowing the situation. Also, I definitely see what you are saying about the TD that was called back. Man, I really believed the Griz were going to pull off an epic comeback but it just wasn't meant to be I guess. Thanks for the feedback.

 

[NLGrizFan]

An analogy of the 2013 Griz according to eGriz...

Our view of the Griz coaching...

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How we actually are as football fans...





Our view of the playbook...


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How we actually handle other people's opinions...


Maybe a little exaggerated but we all know it's true.

HAHA!!! Funniest post I've seen in a while!! Good One!! :lol: :clap:

 

[kemajic]

If the coaches don't matter, someone explain ohio state to me. Struggling team, new staff...and scadoosh! Unbeaten in two years.

NDSU also. Didn't they go 3-9 in 2009? In 2010 semi finals, and we all know about 2011 & 12. But I'm not sure when Bohl got there. I thought I seen 2008. ??

Bohl, who is now 55, has been HC at NDSU since 2003. In his second game, he beat Montana on the road.

 

[NLGrizFan]

... to the #3 team in the Entire Nation. And a penalty costed them the game. It's not as if the Griz rack up penalties every game. A game got away from them. It happens. And in the last two games they had to play catch up instead of jumping on top of them and not letting them up. The Griz let them up and they took off... Til the 4th quarter. Take away the penalty and they tore them a new asshole 28-0. But it didn't go down that way cuz a hand got 4" to high. Don't forget, we're talking about the #3 team in the nation, that carries the #1 passer in the nation and the Griz hung with them and put it to them in "throw down" time. I'm gonna stick to the NAU game as a wtf game because it happened in 2011 and we all remember that team. 2012 coulda been a totally different season with JJ. I say throw the 2012 stats out the window. The Griz were playing with an arm tied behind their back.
Over the last 4 games JJ stats:

EWU: Final 37-42
26/44, 349 yds & 4 TDs

CP: Final 21-14
22/39, 242 yds & 2 TDs

UCD: Final 42-7
12/20, 163 yds & 2 TDs

PSU: Final 55-27
12/24, 203 yds & 4 TDs

Now I could sit here all day and I can't see a pattern. The Griz aren't prone to penalties or turnovers. Maybe there isn't any patterns.

This isn't a bad team. When they bare their teeth and get after it they can tear teams up. I'm convinced it was a rare penalty that cost the game. Say what you will but 5 points against the #3 team isn't bad, and a costly penalty is what I'm sticking to.

I agree with a lot of your post, however, there is no way that one penalty is what cost the Griz the game. It certainly did not help matters but there were multiple factors that cost them the game. The fumble that led to a third down TD being one reason but that alone did not cost them the game either, it was more than those two plays.

IMO it was a combination of mistakes and missed opportunities along with some piss poor play calling and/or execution. An offensive coach that calls a draw on 3rd and 13 while another coach who had been aggressive all season long gets confused and thinks it's 4th and 8 instead of 4th and short so he sends on a kicker he has already proven he lacks confidence in. We all know what play they would have ran if they did go for it anyway so EWU would have probably had a good idea too.

I can see your point, crystal clear. All I was looking at was how they came alive in the 4th quarter and with the limited time left the TD that was called back had turned into a missed FG (I think). With the points running up that quick and EWU not reacting or not being able to react is how I am looking at it. Yes lots of mistakes made throughout the game but the 4th quarter was almost flawless. Well, maybe flawless is to much but the D played well, the O was doing very nice, the scoreboard was evolving, seemed that they coulda pulled it off without that penalty. The score could have been 44-42 Griz. But after the penalty/TD ordeal things woulda changed. I would have to guess. The Griz probably wouldn't have went for 2 and just kicked the PAT but even if that was the case it woulda been 45-42. Going off of if the rest of the game played out the way it did. Wasn't it a reporter that messed up MD's quote on the 4th & 8 tho? I thought that was cleared up on a different thread.

First, I hope it was a reporter's error on the 4th and 8 instead of Delaney not knowing the situation. Also, I definitely see what you are saying about the TD that was called back. Man, I really believed the Griz were going to pull off an epic comeback but it just wasn't meant to be I guess. Thanks for the feedback.

I was really stoked and thought they were gonna pull it off but with only 1:44 left in the game and an onside kick coming up I started thinking, "No way is this gonna happen 2 weeks in row." It's a bummer. But considering the 5-6 record last season, 6-2 isn't to awfully bad. I sure every person on this board would like to see something better than 6-2. But we've been spoiled for as long as I can remember as fan. Expecting a W every week, figuring the Griz were gonna run all over the opponent, blah blah blah. Hopefully things will change for the better.

 

[NLGrizFan]

If the coaches don't matter, someone explain ohio state to me. Struggling team, new staff...and scadoosh! Unbeaten in two years.

NDSU also. Didn't they go 3-9 in 2009? In 2010 semi finals, and we all know about 2011 & 12. But I'm not sure when Bohl got there. I thought I seen 2008. ??

Bohl, who is now 55, has been HC at NDSU since 2003. In his second game, he beat Montana on the road.

Oh hell, that's been 10 years. I was way off. I guess maybe when I read that I seen 2003 and it didn't register. Maybe I'm gettin old tho to cuz 2003 don't seem like that long ago. He beat Montana as a DII coach too, correct?

 

[talon38]

Always enjoy reading EGriz forum, kind of the place to go for great BSC and FCS team updates. As a EWU fan, I was at the 2011 and 2013 games and tailgated with Griz fans who were awesome and invited them to my tailgate next year at Eastern. Awesome people. I've been reading this thread and will put my 2 cents in worth without quoting anyone, just giving my view.
Going into this game, I thought EWU was more battle tested in having played OSU/Toledo and SHSU all on the road. They were ready for a big game rowdy noisy atmosphere. As far as 1 penalty costing UM the game (TD called back), don't forget EWU also had a 3rd down roughing the passer in the 1st that led to a 3-0 score. Then they had an unsportsman like penalty that would have led to a Griz 3 and 24, but gave them a 1st down which led to 7 points. that 10 points on STUPID penalties! There was also a catch by Mitchell in the 4th for 20 plus yards and a 1st down that was ruled as bobbled, but replay showed he had possession, another game changer. But that's life without replay, oh well.
The Griz had a great 4th qtr comeback, but had EWU not had a 25 point (4 possession lead), they would have continued on what they were doing on off/def instead of playing prevent Def. and a non-aggressive Off. They were playing NOT to lose at that point, which almost lost them the game.
Yes, in a perfect world the Griz could have pulled out a 44-42 win, but football is a lot like golf, "If I just wouldn't have drove that one OB or missed those 4 three foot putts, I would have won the Masters, LOL!" OK, i'm getting side track.
Next, The Griz always want to establish there run game first, then set up the playaction, that's plain and simple Griz football. It's worked 88% of the time at WA-Griz stadium and on the road the last 25 years.
Next, Eastern uses the pass to set up the run, that's our game plan. That's how both these coaches call there game plan, but MUST adapt throughout the game.
Lastly, and I'm not being at all disrespectful here, The Griz didn't almost win this game, Eastern tried as hard as they could to lose it.
Two great teams in the BSC, a classic.
Also, the Griz fell a spot or 2 in the polls because they lost at home.
Thanks for the great hospitality while at the game and in Missoula.
Hope I wasn't an ass with this post. Thanks Talon38

 

[Mr. Greenjeans]

Always enjoy reading EGriz forum, kind of the place to go for great BSC and FCS team updates. As a EWU fan, I was at the 2011 and 2013 games and tailgated with Griz fans who were awesome and invited them to my tailgate next year at Eastern. Awesome people. I've been reading this thread and will put my 2 cents in worth without quoting anyone, just giving my view.
Going into this game, I thought EWU was more battle tested in having played OSU/Toledo and SHSU all on the road. They were ready for a big game rowdy noisy atmosphere. As far as 1 penalty costing UM the game (TD called back), don't forget EWU also had a 3rd down roughing the passer in the 1st that led to a 3-0 score. Then they had an unsportsman like penalty that would have led to a Griz 3 and 24, but gave them a 1st down which led to 7 points. that 10 points on STUPID penalties! There was also a catch by Mitchell in the 4th for 20 plus yards and a 1st down that was ruled as bobbled, but replay showed he had possession, another game changer. But that's life without replay, oh well.
The Griz had a great 4th qtr comeback, but had EWU not had a 25 point (4 possession lead), they would have continued on what they were doing on off/def instead of playing prevent Def. and a non-aggressive Off. They were playing NOT to lose at that point, which almost lost them the game.
Yes, in a perfect world the Griz could have pulled out a 44-42 win, but football is a lot like golf, "If I just wouldn't have drove that one OB or missed those 4 three foot putts, I would have won the Masters, LOL!" OK, i'm getting side track.
Next, The Griz always want to establish there run game first, then set up the playaction, that's plain and simple Griz football. It's worked 88% of the time at WA-Griz stadium and on the road the last 25 years.
Next, Eastern uses the pass to set up the run, that's our game plan. That's how both these coaches call there game plan, but MUST adapt throughout the game.
Lastly, and I'm not being at all disrespectful here, The Griz didn't almost win this game, Eastern tried as hard as they could to lose it.
Two great teams in the BSC, a classic.
Also, the Griz fell a spot or 2 in the polls because they lost at home.
Thanks for the great hospitality while at the game and in Missoula.
Hope I wasn't an ass with this post. Thanks Talon38

Good post, EWU had some mistakes but the Griz had more and therefor lost to a top notch EWU team. You can't make that many mistakes against an excellent team (like EWU). I'd disagree that the the EWU mistakes were on par with the Griz snafus, but I'm a partisan and happen to envy your coaching staff. Baldwin will be going places is my only takeaway...he won't be at EWU much longer, someone will give him an offer he can't refuse, it's happened here and enjoy his coaching prowess while you can