Not for FCS level.
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The 3-3-5 defense
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beartoothgriz
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how did it go against SDSU in Frisco?
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beartoothgriz
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The 3-3-5 defense is not and never will be a good defense. If it was, all championship teams would use it and you cannot name 1 championship team that does. The 2 main reasons it works sometimes is when your playing at home in a loud stadium and can get off the ball quick and if a team has never played or prepared for it but after they have they win 6 out of 8 games against it. Its easy to block when you figure it out which is what the cats and other teams have done. Now if the talent level is drastically different which was the case in at least 9 of the games this year, it can look great and the stats look great but thats lipstick on a pig. 4-3 like bobby 1.0 ran or 4-2-5. Unfortunately the defense will not change with the current head coach so you have 2 options. Get rid of the HC and move on or be stuck playing a horrible defense, winning 10 games a year against inferior opponents (lip stick on a pig), getting beat by our rivals 80% (hopefully it doesn't get worse but it going to because we play in blozeman next year) of the time and living in mediocrity. Choose wisely but don't complain about your choice.
billingsgriz
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Yep, and we lost.
Ut-Grizfan
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Looks like Utah State also runs a 3-3-5, currently on TV against WSU in the Potato Bowl
There’s a list of teams that run it. Here’s some of it:
Iowa St
Utah St
FSU
TCU
W Virginia
Arizona
San Diego St
MartyParty
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Nebraska
Syracuse
Boise St
Its not the 3-3-5 defense that is the problem
Syracuse
Boise St
Its not the 3-3-5 defense that is the problem
billingsgriz
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Oh yes it is or least the 3-3-5 is a big part of it: 0 teams playing the 3-3-5 have won a FCS, FBS or NFL championship recently or ever and assuming that those three schools you named all play the 3-3-5, none of them are going to win the FBS national championship in January. In fact, Boise State, MW Champion, just got manhandled ( 12/13 ) by UDUB in The LA Bowl, 38-13.
HelenaHandBasket
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But is that because of the 3-3-5 or just that they weren't as good?
billingsgriz
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HelenaHandBasket
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Convincing.
beartoothgriz
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Yes the answer is both because if you run an 3-3-5, u recruit the type of players to run the 3-3-5. And I don't believe that all of those schools that people have listed run a 3-3-5 but I would have to spend time watching film on all of them to see. Just a quick search, Boise St runs a 4-2-5, West Virginia uses a 3-4, and Arizona a 4-2-5. Either way, none of those teams mentioned will EVER win a championship.
HelenaHandBasket
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Just because a team that runs 3-3-5 has never won doesn't mean they didn't win because they run a 3-3-5. That is like saying that Montana Tech would beat UNLV based on their win over Montana.
beartoothgriz
Member
no that does not mean the same ur talking apples and figs. That is exactly what I'm saying and if I was wrong, you would be able to name 1 team that runs it that is a dominant defense, that wins all the time, and that wins championships. And name 1 NFL team that runs it. My point is that if the 3-3-5 is so great, why are not every NFL, Big Ten, SEC and all the FBS Playoff teams running it and according to the schools given above, only NE fits into any of those categories being they are in the Big Ten. They don't because it sux and its a gimmick defense.
Yeah. It fucking is.
Also neither Nebraska nor Syracuse run the 3-3-5 since Tony White left. Both schools are transitioning to a 4-2-5. Thanks for playing.
HelenaHandBasket
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You ain't much into statistics are you.
beartoothgriz
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Please explain because if your saying what I think your saying, you are wrong. To answer your question simply, then No im not. I'm into winning championships and being the absolute best at whatever I do at whatever level I am playing at. Not into participation trophies that we had great stats. And please come back at me with some good thoughtful questions or statements instead of that one because we could have played a 2-6-3 or 1-5-4 against a majority of the teams that we played and had great stats. U r confusing winning a game against Sister Mary School of the Blind with meaning that what we are doing is the right thing. Always compare yourself with the best at your level or field and then you will find out how good you really are.
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HelenaHandBasket
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causation vs correlation
I think in another thread someone said playing this defense is like playing against a triple option. It’s a nightmare if you don’t see it very often. But if you have history playing against it, it doesnt confuse and can be countered. SDSU and ESD don’t play against it every year, the cats do. Plus the cats line is playing waaay better than either of them at the end of the season.
beartoothgriz
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That is true but u don’t see us using the triple option on offense. Why would we use the equivalent on defense. But SDSU absolutely destroyed it in Frisco so why is that? Well if u notice, this year we had them at home and they were not even close to that team we played in Frisco that had 6-7 players drafted and they were no where close to being healthy this year in the playoffs. USD at home also and they were not a great team either. Good but not great and please don’t say anything about the Mercer game.
