no that does not mean the same ur talking apples and figs. That is exactly what I'm saying and if I was wrong, you would be able to name 1 team that runs it that is a dominant defense, that wins all the time, and that wins championships. And name 1 NFL team that runs it. My point is that if the 3-3-5 is so great, why are not every NFL, Big Ten, SEC and all the FBS Playoff teams running it and according to the schools given above, only NE fits into any of those categories being they are in the Big Ten. They don't because it sux and its a gimmick defense.