We have a great KO returner in Flowers.grizare#1 said:If he wouldn't get killed put him in on kickoff returns, remind you of anybody
We have a great KO returner in Flowers.grizare#1 said:If he wouldn't get killed put him in on kickoff returns, remind you of anybody
Can he equal the state high hurdles record and win by 0.8 seconds?fanofzoo said:Kid out in Frenchtown who might just be faster, only a sophomore.
kemajic said:We have a great KO returner in Flowers.grizare#1 said:If he wouldn't get killed put him in on kickoff returns, remind you of anybody
Sam A. Blitz said:Hawkeyebowhunter said:AZGrizFan said:Hawkeyebowhunter said:It's not occasional, he habitually drops balls he should catch-like clockwork unfortunately.
Akem Toure and Flowers should be starting IMO, with JLM in the slot and handling punt returns
Fine. The statement was "there are a lot of very good receivers on this team" and your answer was "where?", implying that there are NOT a lot of good receivers on this team. Who else, besides Curran, do you have issues with being on this team?
I don't have an issue with the receivers on the team, I disagree with the assertion that we have "a lot of very good" receivers on this team.
Flowers Akem and Toure have potential. I think JLM is a jitterbug, but his route running drive me insane-should be exclusively a jet sweep/screen type receiver IMO.
Production isn't there to justify calling them very good. Not yet
Huh? JLM is a very good route runner. That crucial gain he made in the 4th quarter where the DB fell down was all due to his sharp route running where he made a sharp 90 degree cut on the out without losing any speed.
grizindabox said:Hawkeyebowhunter said:I am not positive on that
This sums it up quite well.
Hawkeyebowhunter said:grizindabox said:Hawkeyebowhunter said:I am not positive on that
This sums it up quite well.
Because I haven't been able to watch every snap of every game? Nice one man-really astute observation on your end
Hawkeyebowhunter said:Sam A. Blitz said:Hawkeyebowhunter said:AZGrizFan said:Fine. The statement was "there are a lot of very good receivers on this team" and your answer was "where?", implying that there are NOT a lot of good receivers on this team. Who else, besides Curran, do you have issues with being on this team?
I don't have an issue with the receivers on the team, I disagree with the assertion that we have "a lot of very good" receivers on this team.
Flowers Akem and Toure have potential. I think JLM is a jitterbug, but his route running drive me insane-should be exclusively a jet sweep/screen type receiver IMO.
Production isn't there to justify calling them very good. Not yet
Huh? JLM is a very good route runner. That crucial gain he made in the 4th quarter where the DB fell down was all due to his sharp route running where he made a sharp 90 degree cut on the out without losing any speed.
One circumstance is what you are judging him on? I'm sorry, but I just don't see it. Routes have been marginally better this year.
Klucewich hasn't run the 110 hurdles yet. However, comparing their fastest 100m times, he may be ahead of Sulser.kemajic said:Can he equal the state high hurdles record and win by 0.8 seconds?fanofzoo said:Kid out in Frenchtown who might just be faster, only a sophomore.
grizindabox said:Hawkeyebowhunter said:grizindabox said:Hawkeyebowhunter said:I am not positive on that
This sums it up quite well.
Because I haven't been able to watch every snap of every game? Nice one man-really astute observation on your end
Thanks. You still have never answered why you think Flowers should be on the field over the guys that have been.
Since he had the bad hammy, Sulser ran very selectively, only the HH at the state meet. 14.22 with the bad hammy. Won by 10 yards.grizband said:Klucewich hasn't run the 110 hurdles yet. However, comparing their fastest 100m times, he may be ahead of Sulser.kemajic said:Can he equal the state high hurdles record and win by 0.8 seconds?fanofzoo said:Kid out in Frenchtown who might just be faster, only a sophomore.
100m
Klucewich: 11.08 (Freshman) - 12th best 100m time in MT (2018)
Sulser: 11.00 (Sophomore) - 4th best 100m time in MT (2016)
200m
Klucewich: 22.9 (Freshman)
Sulser: 22.4 (Sophomore)
Sulser didn't run the 100m his Junior year, and was hampered by a hamstring injury during track season this year (best time was 11.31).
I was impressed by his 110m hurdles race (saw highlights on tv). Not saying Sulser isn't faster, just comparing based on available data points.kemajic said:Since he had the bad hammy, Sulser ran very selectively, only the HH at the state meet. 14.22 with the bad hammy. Won by 10 yards.grizband said:Klucewich hasn't run the 110 hurdles yet. However, comparing their fastest 100m times, he may be ahead of Sulser.kemajic said:Can he equal the state high hurdles record and win by 0.8 seconds?fanofzoo said:Kid out in Frenchtown who might just be faster, only a sophomore.
100m
Klucewich: 11.08 (Freshman) - 12th best 100m time in MT (2018)
Sulser: 11.00 (Sophomore) - 4th best 100m time in MT (2016)
200m
Klucewich: 22.9 (Freshman)
Sulser: 22.4 (Sophomore)
Sulser didn't run the 100m his Junior year, and was hampered by a hamstring injury during track season this year (best time was 11.31).
Hawkeyebowhunter said:grizindabox said:Hawkeyebowhunter said:grizindabox said:This sums it up quite well.
Because I haven't been able to watch every snap of every game? Nice one man-really astute observation on your end
Thanks. You still have never answered why you think Flowers should be on the field over the guys that have been.
I did though, if you read back just a little bit. We know what we have with Curran-drops.
Flowers is a better athlete and faster. I don't subscribe to the "devil you know" theory with receivers. Curran has shown us what he is-I believe Flowers has more potential plus is much younger and very well could develop into one of those "great" receivers people have been talking about.
PlayerRep said:What is it with some egriz posters who insist on exaggerating things, like drops or fumbles, to make their points or to diss particular players? What's so hard about sticking with the actual facts?
Hawkeyebowhunter said:Sam A. Blitz said:Hawkeyebowhunter said:AZGrizFan said:Fine. The statement was "there are a lot of very good receivers on this team" and your answer was "where?", implying that there are NOT a lot of good receivers on this team. Who else, besides Curran, do you have issues with being on this team?
I don't have an issue with the receivers on the team, I disagree with the assertion that we have "a lot of very good" receivers on this team.
Flowers Akem and Toure have potential. I think JLM is a jitterbug, but his route running drive me insane-should be exclusively a jet sweep/screen type receiver IMO.
Production isn't there to justify calling them very good. Not yet
Huh? JLM is a very good route runner. That crucial gain he made in the 4th quarter where the DB fell down was all due to his sharp route running where he made a sharp 90 degree cut on the out without losing any speed.
One circumstance is what you are judging him on? I'm sorry, but I just don't see it. Routes have been marginally better this year.
Sam A. Blitz said:Hawkeyebowhunter said:Sam A. Blitz said:Hawkeyebowhunter said:I don't have an issue with the receivers on the team, I disagree with the assertion that we have "a lot of very good" receivers on this team.
Flowers Akem and Toure have potential. I think JLM is a jitterbug, but his route running drive me insane-should be exclusively a jet sweep/screen type receiver IMO.
Production isn't there to justify calling them very good. Not yet
Huh? JLM is a very good route runner. That crucial gain he made in the 4th quarter where the DB fell down was all due to his sharp route running where he made a sharp 90 degree cut on the out without losing any speed.
One circumstance is what you are judging him on? I'm sorry, but I just don't see it. Routes have been marginally better this year.
It's not a circumstance, it's an example. Watch him the next couple games. His routes have been crisp and sharp. His ability to get out of his breaks while maintaining speed is a key reason he's been getting open on the intermediate routes as a smaller target.
AZGrizFan said:Sam A. Blitz said:Hawkeyebowhunter said:Sam A. Blitz said:Huh? JLM is a very good route runner. That crucial gain he made in the 4th quarter where the DB fell down was all due to his sharp route running where he made a sharp 90 degree cut on the out without losing any speed.
One circumstance is what you are judging him on? I'm sorry, but I just don't see it. Routes have been marginally better this year.
It's not a circumstance, it's an example. Watch him the next couple games. His routes have been crisp and sharp. His ability to get out of his breaks while maintaining speed is a key reason he's been getting open on the intermediate routes as a smaller target.
You don't catch 73 passes in a year by running crappy routes. :lol: :lol:
VictorG said:PlayerRep said:What is it with some egriz posters who insist on exaggerating things, like drops or fumbles, to make their points or to diss particular players? What's so hard about sticking with the actual facts?
They watch a lot of replays and keep on counting!!!