Stock in Gragg, Gregorak as future HC just went up !!!

[CV Griz Fan]

Am I excited about the thought that Gregorak maybe the new head coach....nope, do I think it will happen...yep

I am sorry Box but you're a buzz kill...

 

[PlayerRep]

One should never make big decision when they're at an emotional low point or at an emotional high point. Neither should the Griz. One game can't be the determining factor.

Exactly. Plus do we really want our head coach to be the guy who got blackout drunk in Vegas, broke into some dudes car at a strip club and stole his wallet and i thought gun too. Then wakes up with a hooker. And ends up getting arrested for the incident.

You would have a picture of a dumb blonde. Don't be ignorant, Gregorak was wrongfully accused, read the full article:

http://blogs.westword.com/latestword/2010/07/ty_gregorak_no_longer_shmuck_of_the_week_lots_of_random_words_to_make_this_headline_longer.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Read many other articles where Ty admitted to police he was severely intoxicated, he had the gun and wallet but returned them to the bouncer's room etc. Just because charges
were not brought forward, doesn't mean Ty was falsely accused. Get real......

Gregorak didn't admit that he was severely intoxicated. In fact, he furnished affidavits from all the guys he'd been with, saying he was not intoxicated when they left him.

Everything in Maxim's post is not accurate, except that the gun/wallet ended up in his hotel room. There was no evidence that he took the gun/wallet. No indication that he broke into the bouncer's car, not seen by the parking attendant or caught on parking videos, not carrying anything or a suitcase when he entered the hotel (as recalled by the desk clerk and shown on the many video cameras at the hotel). It was a set up. That's why charges were dropped. That's why the UNLV who fired him, later gave him a recommendation for later jobs. That's why Pflu was allowed to hire him.

 

[CV Griz Fan]

Exactly. Plus do we really want our head coach to be the guy who got blackout drunk in Vegas, broke into some dudes car at a strip club and stole his wallet and i thought gun too. Then wakes up with a hooker. And ends up getting arrested for the incident.

You would have a picture of a dumb blonde. Don't be ignorant, Gregorak was wrongfully accused, read the full article:

http://blogs.westword.com/latestword/2010/07/ty_gregorak_no_longer_shmuck_of_the_week_lots_of_random_words_to_make_this_headline_longer.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Read many other articles where Ty admitted to police he was severely intoxicated, he had the gun and wallet but returned them to the bouncer's room etc. Just because charges
were not brought forward, doesn't mean Ty was falsely accused. Get real......

Gregorak didn't admit that he was severely intoxicated. In fact, he furnished affidavits from all the guys he'd been with, saying he was not intoxicated when they left him.

Everything in Maxim's post is not accurate, except that the gun/wallet ended up in his hotel room. There was no evidence that he took the gun/wallet. No indication that he broke into the bouncer's car, not seen by the parking attendant or caught on parking videos, not carrying anything or a suitcase when he entered the hotel (as recalled by the desk clerk and shown on the many video cameras at the hotel). It was a set up. That's why charges were dropped. That's why the UNLV who fired him, later gave him a recommendation for later jobs. That's why Pflu was allowed to hire him.

He admitted to being intoxicated in the May 7th Las Vegas Sun Article. He admitted to having the gun and wallet in his possession although he couldn't remember how he got them. Plus he had a revoked Montana Drivers License for DUI according to the same article. The coach from CSU Pueblo is being second guessed for less....

 

[monte is a character]

With all due respect, Sea Bass, I don't agree.

Bobby was an assistant coach at Washington when he was hired. And Pflu was an assistant when he was hired. (Pflu had problems, obviously, but they weren't on the field.)

Promoting assistants, even if they were a former grad assistant like Bobby, has worked pretty well for us.

And I do hope and think Mick's lobbying for Gragg and Gregorak will carry a lot of weight with Haslam and the committee. "If you like the direction our program is going, I think you should hire either Scott or Ty."

I am not saying either will become our next HC. I am saying that both of their candidacies, if there is such a word, just received a healthy boost and are both stronger candidates for the job than they were just a week ago !!!

I don't like the direction of our program, and hiring either of these two will just compound the mistake of allowing Delaney to be more than an interim head coach for one season.

 

[monte is a character]

Anyone who thinks that Gragg or Gregorak are legitimate candidates in this search are out of their minds. They can and will apply, but neither will get it. And yesterday's win and the playoffs going forward won't make a difference. If you compare the resumes of Ty and Scott with the others Haslam is looking at, it's not even close. It's hilarious the conclusions people will jump to after one big win.

I agree. I guess most of these guys are bi-polar. They bitch and moan about the coaching when we are getting our asses handed to us by EWU and Poly, then gush about hiring one of these coaches as our new head coach. Take your meds, please!

 

[Ursa Major]

One should never make big decision when they're at an emotional low point or at an emotional high point. Neither should the Griz. One game can't be the determining factor.

Exactly. Plus do we really want our head coach to be the guy who got blackout drunk in Vegas, broke into some dudes car at a strip club and stole his wallet and i thought gun too. Then wakes up with a hooker. And ends up getting arrested for the incident.

Oh, like you never woke up next to a hooker before.

Never a live one...

 

[cclarkblues]

One should never make big decision when they're at an emotional low point or at an emotional high point. Neither should the Griz. One game can't be the determining factor.

Exactly. Plus do we really want our head coach to be the guy who got blackout drunk in Vegas, broke into some dudes car at a strip club and stole his wallet and i thought gun too. Then wakes up with a hooker. And ends up getting arrested for the incident.

Oh, like you never woke up next to a hooker before.

Never a live one...

HA! Good one Ursa

 

[ranco]

One should never make big decision when they're at an emotional low point or at an emotional high point. Neither should the Griz. One game can't be the determining factor.

Exactly. Plus do we really want our head coach to be the guy who got blackout drunk in Vegas, broke into some dudes car at a strip club and stole his wallet and i thought gun too. Then wakes up with a hooker. And ends up getting arrested for the incident.

Oh, like you never woke up next to a hooker before.

Never a live one...

Maybe fallen asleep next to one but never awoken to one

 

[Sea Bass]

One should never make big decision when they're at an emotional low point or at an emotional high point. Neither should the Griz. One game can't be the determining factor.

Exactly. Plus do we really want our head coach to be the guy who got blackout drunk in Vegas, broke into some dudes car at a strip club and stole his wallet and i thought gun too. Then wakes up with a hooker. And ends up getting arrested for the incident.

Oh, like you never woke up next to a hooker before.

Never a live one...

That's just wrong on so many levels.

 

[billingsgriz]

I am NOT saying due to one game that Gragg and Ty should be considered.

What I am saying is 5 years as a successful GRIZ assistant coach, including two years as co-OC (Gragg) and 8 or 9 years as a successful GRIZ assistant, including the last 3 as DC (Gregorak) that have also helped recruit, monitor player grades, etc. + yesterday's game + Mick's lobbying for them+ a strong connection with our current players and incoming recruits = very strong candidates for GRIZ soon-to-be vacant HC position !!!

No offense to any of you, but Mick through fifty years of football coaching has far more football knowledge than any poster on this board, including me and the moderator, and if he thinks Ty or Scott should become our next HC, that they are in essence very similar to himself only they are in their late 30's and early 40's instead of their early 70's and you combine that with yesterday's performance and possibly add in a good playoff game or two or maybe even three, it's going to be real difficult to NOT consider Scott and TR !!!

What's the old proverb, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it. "

Recent GRIZ assistants that became GRIZ HC: Mick Dennehy, Joe Glenn, Bobby Hauck, Robin Pflugrad, Mick Delaney

 

[George Ferguson]

I think Ty would get more serious consideration than Scott. Scott has only been removed from the high school ranks for FIVE years. It that really a resume to become the next Griz head coach? IN my book, no, but like EVERY SINGLE GUY on this board, my book doesn't count. I think Scott Gragg is awesome, I know the players do too. I know he has the support of both Mick and Pflu, but I just don't see it. But again, that's a FAN'S opinion. On to Ty, I KNO for a fact Ty will be heavily considered. I believe many people inside the program believe he has earned his stripes, and he doesn't have a single player on the current roster who wouldn't walk right into Haslem's office and demand that he be the next coach. He's that respected amongst the current team. But again, he wouldn't be my choice either. He didn't get the Tech job over Chuck Morrell, and while I have gotten to know Chuck personally, and think he's a fine football coach, and a great guy, and I say this with all due respect to Hammer and Oredigger, I don't think Chuck should be the next head coach of the Grizzlies either.

 

[PlayerRep]

You would have a picture of a dumb blonde. Don't be ignorant, Gregorak was wrongfully accused, read the full article:

http://blogs.westword.com/latestword/2010/07/ty_gregorak_no_longer_shmuck_of_the_week_lots_of_random_words_to_make_this_headline_longer.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Read many other articles where Ty admitted to police he was severely intoxicated, he had the gun and wallet but returned them to the bouncer's room etc. Just because charges
were not brought forward, doesn't mean Ty was falsely accused. Get real......

Gregorak didn't admit that he was severely intoxicated. In fact, he furnished affidavits from all the guys he'd been with, saying he was not intoxicated when they left him.

Everything in Maxim's post is not accurate, except that the gun/wallet ended up in his hotel room. There was no evidence that he took the gun/wallet. No indication that he broke into the bouncer's car, not seen by the parking attendant or caught on parking videos, not carrying anything or a suitcase when he entered the hotel (as recalled by the desk clerk and shown on the many video cameras at the hotel). It was a set up. That's why charges were dropped. That's why the UNLV who fired him, later gave him a recommendation for later jobs. That's why Pflu was allowed to hire him.

He admitted to being intoxicated in the May 7th Las Vegas Sun Article. He admitted to having the gun and wallet in his possession although he couldn't remember how he got them. Plus he had a revoked Montana Drivers License for DUI according to the same article. The coach from CSU Pueblo is being second guessed for less....

No, TG did NOT admit to being intoxicated in the May 7 article, or anywhere else. The bouncer, who lied about TG being at the strip club and related things, is the one who is quoted, not TG. The bouncer also lied about his stuff being in his car and being broken into, and there were no signs that his car was broken into. If there was a set up, the bouncer was obviously involved in it. Yes, he obviously had the wallet/gun in his possession, as he returned them.

From the earlier article you linked:

"Police Detective E.F. Euler requested a warrant for Mr. Gregorak's arrest based only upon the statement of Mr. Benedetto and a brief conversation with Mr. Gregorak where he maintained that he must have been drugged and had no knowledge of how the items got into the hotel room he rented the previous night."

"In fact, the video proves that the individual contacted outside the club was not Mr. Gregorak and further, Mr. Benedetto's description of Mr. Gregorak did not fit that of the man captured on camera."

"Defense investigation established that the parking garage attendant, stationed just feet from Mr. Benedetto's car, did not observe anyone breaking into the car; hotel staff did not observe a gun or any of the other items on Mr. Gregorak that evening; the dozen friends of Mr. Gregorak all provided statements to defense investigators that they also did not see the items and that Mr. Gregorak was not intoxicated during the time he was with them. Four fingerprints were lifted from the car. Two were insufficient quality for comparison, one was not Mr. Gregorak's, and the fourth was not of sufficient quality to include or exclude Mr. Gregorak."

CV, why can't you stop providing incorrect information? Or are you just intentionally lying?

 

[SoldierGriz]

With all due respect, Sea Bass, I don't agree.

Bobby was an assistant coach at Washington when he was hired. And Pflu was an assistant when he was hired. (Pflu had problems, obviously, but they weren't on the field.)

Promoting assistants, even if they were a former grad assistant like Bobby, has worked pretty well for us.

And I do hope and think Mick's lobbying for Gragg and Gregorak will carry a lot of weight with Haslam and the committee. "If you like the direction our program is going, I think you should hire either Scott or Ty."

I am not saying either will become our next HC. I am saying that both of their candidacies, if there is such a word, just received a healthy boost and are both stronger candidates for the job than they were just a week ago !!!

I don't like the direction of our program, and hiring either of these two will just compound the mistake of allowing Delaney to be more than an interim head coach for one season.

Ridiculous again. What is not to like about the direction of the program? Planned upgrade to facilities, first round playoff home game setting up revenge game vs Ewu, coaching transition with an opportunity for a great hire, exceptional recruiting class inbound, and returning class that is also superb. How about just enjoying the ride Monte...you are on the outside looking in on this topic.

 

[kemajic]

With all due respect, Sea Bass, I don't agree.

Bobby was an assistant coach at Washington when he was hired. And Pflu was an assistant when he was hired. (Pflu had problems, obviously, but they weren't on the field.)

Promoting assistants, even if they were a former grad assistant like Bobby, has worked pretty well for us.

And I do hope and think Mick's lobbying for Gragg and Gregorak will carry a lot of weight with Haslam and the committee. "If you like the direction our program is going, I think you should hire either Scott or Ty."

I am not saying either will become our next HC. I am saying that both of their candidacies, if there is such a word, just received a healthy boost and are both stronger candidates for the job than they were just a week ago !!!

I don't like the direction of our program, and hiring either of these two will just compound the mistake of allowing Delaney to be more than an interim head coach for one season.

Ridiculous again. What is not to like about the direction of the program? Planned upgrade to facilities, first round playoff home game setting up revenge game vs Ewu, coaching transition with an opportunity for a great hire, exceptional recruiting class inbound, and returning class that is also superb. How about just enjoying the ride Monte...you are on the outside looking in on this topic.

The direction of the program is great with Haslam in charge. He has applicants whose resumes far surpass any of the current assistants so don't worry their serious consideration.

 

[Spanky]

Kem:
That is good news, but doesn't suprise me. The UM coaching job will attract many outstanding candidates. I hope Kent has the strength to resist the pressure from many to hire an inferior candidate.

 

[Maxim]

Read many other articles where Ty admitted to police he was severely intoxicated, he had the gun and wallet but returned them to the bouncer's room etc. Just because charges
were not brought forward, doesn't mean Ty was falsely accused. Get real......

Gregorak didn't admit that he was severely intoxicated. In fact, he furnished affidavits from all the guys he'd been with, saying he was not intoxicated when they left him.

Everything in Maxim's post is not accurate, except that the gun/wallet ended up in his hotel room. There was no evidence that he took the gun/wallet. No indication that he broke into the bouncer's car, not seen by the parking attendant or caught on parking videos, not carrying anything or a suitcase when he entered the hotel (as recalled by the desk clerk and shown on the many video cameras at the hotel). It was a set up. That's why charges were dropped. That's why the UNLV who fired him, later gave him a recommendation for later jobs. That's why Pflu was allowed to hire him.

He admitted to being intoxicated in the May 7th Las Vegas Sun Article. He admitted to having the gun and wallet in his possession although he couldn't remember how he got them. Plus he had a revoked Montana Drivers License for DUI according to the same article. The coach from CSU Pueblo is being second guessed for less....

No, TG did NOT admit to being intoxicated in the May 7 article, or anywhere else. The bouncer, who lied about TG being at the strip club and related things, is the one who is quoted, not TG. The bouncer also lied about his stuff being in his car and being broken into, and there were no signs that his car was broken into. If there was a set up, the bouncer was obviously involved in it. Yes, he obviously had the wallet/gun in his possession, as he returned them.

From the earlier article you linked:

"Police Detective E.F. Euler requested a warrant for Mr. Gregorak's arrest based only upon the statement of Mr. Benedetto and a brief conversation with Mr. Gregorak where he maintained that he must have been drugged and had no knowledge of how the items got into the hotel room he rented the previous night."

"In fact, the video proves that the individual contacted outside the club was not Mr. Gregorak and further, Mr. Benedetto's description of Mr. Gregorak did not fit that of the man captured on camera."

"Defense investigation established that the parking garage attendant, stationed just feet from Mr. Benedetto's car, did not observe anyone breaking into the car; hotel staff did not observe a gun or any of the other items on Mr. Gregorak that evening; the dozen friends of Mr. Gregorak all provided statements to defense investigators that they also did not see the items and that Mr. Gregorak was not intoxicated during the time he was with them. Four fingerprints were lifted from the car. Two were insufficient quality for comparison, one was not Mr. Gregorak's, and the fourth was not of sufficient quality to include or exclude Mr. Gregorak."

CV, why can't you stop providing incorrect information? Or are you just intentionally lying?

The fact that you believe your own non-sense is laughable. Try this article Einstein http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2010/may/07/gregorak-050710/, not only does he admit to being drunk but also to possessing the stolen items and giving them back to the owner in person. He only got off because he had a good lawyer and the case was a weak one. I am so sure he just ends up with someone else's gun and wallet as a set up? How dumb are you really?

 

[CV Griz Fan]

Read many other articles where Ty admitted to police he was severely intoxicated, he had the gun and wallet but returned them to the bouncer's room etc. Just because charges
were not brought forward, doesn't mean Ty was falsely accused. Get real......

Gregorak didn't admit that he was severely intoxicated. In fact, he furnished affidavits from all the guys he'd been with, saying he was not intoxicated when they left him.

Everything in Maxim's post is not accurate, except that the gun/wallet ended up in his hotel room. There was no evidence that he took the gun/wallet. No indication that he broke into the bouncer's car, not seen by the parking attendant or caught on parking videos, not carrying anything or a suitcase when he entered the hotel (as recalled by the desk clerk and shown on the many video cameras at the hotel). It was a set up. That's why charges were dropped. That's why the UNLV who fired him, later gave him a recommendation for later jobs. That's why Pflu was allowed to hire him.

He admitted to being intoxicated in the May 7th Las Vegas Sun Article. He admitted to having the gun and wallet in his possession although he couldn't remember how he got them. Plus he had a revoked Montana Drivers License for DUI according to the same article. The coach from CSU Pueblo is being second guessed for less....

No, TG did NOT admit to being intoxicated in the May 7 article, or anywhere else. The bouncer, who lied about TG being at the strip club and related things, is the one who is quoted, not TG. The bouncer also lied about his stuff being in his car and being broken into, and there were no signs that his car was broken into. If there was a set up, the bouncer was obviously involved in it. Yes, he obviously had the wallet/gun in his possession, as he returned them.

From the earlier article you linked:

"Police Detective E.F. Euler requested a warrant for Mr. Gregorak's arrest based only upon the statement of Mr. Benedetto and a brief conversation with Mr. Gregorak where he maintained that he must have been drugged and had no knowledge of how the items got into the hotel room he rented the previous night."

"In fact, the video proves that the individual contacted outside the club was not Mr. Gregorak and further, Mr. Benedetto's description of Mr. Gregorak did not fit that of the man captured on camera."

"Defense investigation established that the parking garage attendant, stationed just feet from Mr. Benedetto's car, did not observe anyone breaking into the car; hotel staff did not observe a gun or any of the other items on Mr. Gregorak that evening; the dozen friends of Mr. Gregorak all provided statements to defense investigators that they also did not see the items and that Mr. Gregorak was not intoxicated during the time he was with them. Four fingerprints were lifted from the car. Two were insufficient quality for comparison, one was not Mr. Gregorak's, and the fourth was not of sufficient quality to include or exclude Mr. Gregorak."

CV, why can't you stop providing incorrect information? Or are you just intentionally lying?

I don't need to lie about anything. The events were reported by the LV media. Ty admitted to police that he had the gun and wallet in his room. That fact alone is strange. Now you're conjecturing it was a set-up? Get real.... Then you have the issue of the revoked drivers license. My point is that UM supposedly now stands for a "new and improved" sports image. Posters have been critical of some of the potential HCs saying that they have too much baggage to be considered for the Griz job. Ty should be scrutinized just as much as Krammer,Wristen etc.


http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2010/may/07/gregorak-050710/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

 

[argh!]

Exactly. Plus do we really want our head coach to be the guy who got blackout drunk in Vegas, broke into some dudes car at a strip club and stole his wallet and i thought gun too. Then wakes up with a hooker. And ends up getting arrested for the incident.

Oh, like you never woke up next to a hooker before.

Never a live one...

That's just wrong on so many levels.

what major major is getting at is that he looks a bit like jabba-the-hutt

 

[grizd]

Fair or not fair, the fact that he was involved in the mess with the bouncer will disqualify him from the head job. Given the very recent "issues" the media has pinned on the program and given the ruthlessness of recruiting it would be a bad career decision for Haslam. Best case he wins a natty, worst case Haslam loses his job because a kid gets arrested and the media focuses on the head coaches "past".

So, IMO it is too soon and the wound is still not healed enough to take the "risk".

 

[tnt]

Whether Gregorak is ready to be a head coach or not, I don't know. But if how he handled himself after the way he was treated by UNLV is an indication of his Character, then he certainly isn't lacking in that area.....

http://www.dailyrecordnews.com/sports/article_dbbc28e8-e3eb-11df-adec-001cc4c002e0.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;