Stock in Gragg, Gregorak as future HC just went up !!!

[kemajic]

Fair or not fair, the fact that he was involved in the mess with the bouncer will disqualify him from the head job. Given the very recent "issues" the media has pinned on the program and given the ruthlessness of recruiting it would be a bad career decision for Haslam. Best case he wins a natty, worst case Haslam loses his job because a kid gets arrested and the media focuses on the head coaches "past".

So, IMO it is too soon and the wound is still not healed enough to take the "risk".

You only take risk when the reward justifies. TG is just having his FIRST success as a DC and he has zero experience on the other side of the ball. He is not ready irrespective of the baggage. A few more years of success and the memory fades so the risk is less and the reward is greater.

 

[billingsgriz]

The rubicon over these stale dismissed charges in Colorado was already crossed when UNLV gave Ty a hiring recommendation and Ty was hired back at UM by Pflu in 2011. And that was further reinforced when Ty was promoted to DC by Mick in 2012. Both the AD and president had to sign off on Ty's promotion.

If over the past three years something had happened to Mick--thank God it didn't !!!--Ty or Scott would have been named interim HC.

As for resume's vs. performance on the field, who are you going to believe, a piece of paper or your own lyin' eyes ?

The further we go in the postseason, the stronger the case becomes for hiring Ty or Scott as our next HC !!!

"But AD Haslam, ignore the team's performance on the field, the classroom and in the community over the last three years, these pieces of paper, some of them complete with heavy embellishment, are more important and should carry more weight in hiring our next head coach than the fact we are in the playoffs and Mick, Scott, and Ty, their coaches, and their players that love, respect, and endorse them and that got us here for a second year in a row !"

 

[Spanky]

Billings, you are on a mission to get one of these gents the job. Why? Let the search process take its course. If properly managed by Haslam, I can almost assure you that we will have several very qualified applicants for the position

 

[grizindabox]

Billings, you are on a mission to get one of these gents the job. Why? Let the search process take its course. If properly managed by Haslam, I can almost assure you that we will have several very qualified applicants for the position

He is happy playing second fiddle...or third fiddle...or...never mind, think you get the picture

 

[billingsgriz]

If the team were losing on the field, and/or failing in the classroom, and/or getting arrested on and off campus, I would be the first to say, Spanky, bring in an outsider to clean up this mess.

But none of those problems exist today. Mick, ably assisted by Scott and Ty and the rest of his staff, just steered our good ship through the stormiest seas in the history of GRIZ football which included intense local, state, and national media attention, an NCAA and DOJ investigation and the loss of 4 scholarships, and the suspension, intense rape trial and subsequent acquittal of Jordan Johnson, our starting QB, and the team ably captained by Mick sailed through all of these trials and tribulations ! And through all of this turmoil we continued to win on the field, learn in the classroom, and especially stay out of trouble on and off campus and contribute to UM and Missoula both on and off the field.

As the most visible proof of this success, we have now demolished our in-state rival two years in a row. Therefore, I think we should maintain the continuity of success and momentum Mick is recommending by hiring Scott or Ty.

"If it ain't broke, don't fix it !"

 

[kemajic]

If the team were losing on the field, and/or failing in the classroom, and/or getting arrested on and off campus, I would be the first to say, Spanky, bring in an outsider to clean up this mess.

But none of those problems exist today. Mick, ably assisted by Scott and Ty and the rest of his staff, just steered our good ship through the stormiest seas in the history of GRIZ football which included intense local, state, and national media attention, an NCAA and DOJ investigation and the loss of 4 scholarships, and the suspension, intense rape trial and subsequent acquittal of Jordan Johnson, our starting QB, and the team ably captained by Mick sailed through all of these trials and tribulations ! And through all of this turmoil we continued to win on the field, learn in the classroom, and especially stay out of trouble on and off campus and contribute to UM and Missoula both on and off the field.

As the most visible proof of this success, we have now demolished our in-state rival two years in a row. Therefore, I think we should maintain the continuity of success and momentum Mick is recommending by hiring Scott or Ty.

"If it ain't broke, don't fix it !"

Yeah, don't look at the opportunities that are coming. Not everyone is in your snuggly comfort zone. One good game and you overlook all the coaching gaffs throughout the last 3 years.

 

[CV Griz Fan]

If the team were losing on the field, and/or failing in the classroom, and/or getting arrested on and off campus, I would be the first to say, Spanky, bring in an outsider to clean up this mess.

But none of those problems exist today. Mick, ably assisted by Scott and Ty and the rest of his staff, just steered our good ship through the stormiest seas in the history of GRIZ football which included intense local, state, and national media attention, an NCAA and DOJ investigation and the loss of 4 scholarships, and the suspension, intense rape trial and subsequent acquittal of Jordan Johnson, our starting QB, and the team ably captained by Mick sailed through all of these trials and tribulations ! And through all of this turmoil we continued to win on the field, learn in the classroom, and especially stay out of trouble on and off campus and contribute to UM and Missoula both on and off the field.

As the most visible proof of this success, we have now demolished our in-state rival two years in a row. Therefore, I think we should maintain the continuity of success and momentum Mick is recommending by hiring Scott or Ty.

"If it ain't broke, don't fix it !"

Yeah, don't look at the opportunities that are coming. Not everyone is in your snuggly comfort zone. One good game and you overlook all the coaching gaffs throughout the last 3 years.

True Kem but that's the bi-polar nature of egriz. One bad game and the Griz are going to be the next UNC. One good game and posters are guaranteeing a win over Eastern. It's just par for the course.

 

[griz4life]

Here's the real issue with the bouncer's stolen gun and wallet, as explained by Gregorak's attorney at the time:

"" He is ashamed that an innocent night out has led to allegations which bring him, his family, and the University embarrassment. He is looking forward to continuing to cooperate fully with the investigation, putting the matter behind him, and continuing his distinguished career."

Whether Gregorak did it, didn't remember doing it, remembers but won't admit it, he brought embarrassment to the the university he worked for. Whether or not he stole the wallet and gun, he revealed himself to be, on that night, a pub crawler so intoxicated he couldn't remember what the hell went on.

Not only that, but it also turns out his Montana driver's license had been revoked for drunken driving. And he was driving. The police tracked him down by the license plates on his rental car.

In applying for the Montana Tech job, Gregorak told his would-be employer, that he was on a university recruiting/reunion when the incident occurred. That means he represented his university terribly. If UNLV paid for the rental car Gregroak drove, drunk, without a license, he did his employer even worse.

So, whether he stole a wallet and gun during his drunken stumble is irrelevant. The rest of his behavior that evening -- the behavior that he seems to admit to --- was bad enough to not be the head coach.

 

[krammer]

in the college game, the best coaches have the best athletes (most always)....it is really that simple...who ever gets the job... I hope they can recruit like m.d. has in the up coming class...sabin at Alabama is further evidence of this simple truth, year in and year out.....of course they need to know the x and o, familiar with Montana tradition, good administration skills, good assistants but recruiting is the common denominator, with everything else being somewhat equal...imo....

 

[grizindabox]

If the team were losing on the field, and/or failing in the classroom, and/or getting arrested on and off campus, I would be the first to say, Spanky, bring in an outsider to clean up this mess.

But none of those problems exist today. Mick, ably assisted by Scott and Ty and the rest of his staff, just steered our good ship through the stormiest seas in the history of GRIZ football which included intense local, state, and national media attention, an NCAA and DOJ investigation and the loss of 4 scholarships, and the suspension, intense rape trial and subsequent acquittal of Jordan Johnson, our starting QB, and the team ably captained by Mick sailed through all of these trials and tribulations ! And through all of this turmoil we continued to win on the field, learn in the classroom, and especially stay out of trouble on and off campus and contribute to UM and Missoula both on and off the field.

As the most visible proof of this success, we have now demolished our in-state rival two years in a row. Therefore, I think we should maintain the continuity of success and momentum Mick is recommending by hiring Scott or Ty.

"If it ain't broke, don't fix it !"

How many Championships have the Griz won? How many victories do they have over winning teams? If you are OK finishing second or worse and losing out early in the playoffs, I guess you can have your guy. Some Griz fans hope for more.

 

[PlayerRep]

Here's the real issue with the bouncer's stolen gun and wallet, as explained by Gregorak's attorney at the time:

"" He is ashamed that an innocent night out has led to allegations which bring him, his family, and the University embarrassment. He is looking forward to continuing to cooperate fully with the investigation, putting the matter behind him, and continuing his distinguished career."

Whether Gregorak did it, didn't remember doing it, remembers but won't admit it, he brought embarrassment to the the university he worked for. Whether or not he stole the wallet and gun, he revealed himself to be, on that night, a pub crawler so intoxicated he couldn't remember what the hell went on.

Not only that, but it also turns out his Montana driver's license had been revoked for drunken driving. And he was driving. The police tracked him down by the license plates on his rental car.

In applying for the Montana Tech job, Gregorak told his would-be employer, that he was on a university recruiting/reunion when the incident occurred. That means he represented his university terribly. If UNLV paid for the rental car Gregroak drove, drunk, without a license, he did his employer even worse.

So, whether he stole a wallet and gun during his drunken stumble is irrelevant. The rest of his behavior that evening -- the behavior that he seems to admit to --- was bad enough to not be the head coach.

Why do you have to lie? Why can't you stick with the facts?

There is no evidence that he was drunk that night. In fact, the best evidence, from 10 of his friends with him that and the hotel desk clerks and hotel video, is that he was not drunk. He wasn't driving his car that night, so he couldn't have been driving drunk. There is no evidence that he broke into the bouncer's car and took the stuff. In fact, the evidence is that he didn't do that. The evidence is that the bouncer lied about seeing him that night, and about him being at the strip club. And he's admitted that he found the stuff in his room in the morning, and took it back to the bouncer. Who in their right mind would break into a car, steal stuff, and then return it to the guy's house in the morning? The best answer to the mystery is that this was all a set up, and that's why this stuff ended up in his room without it being stolen from the car and without it being carried by him into the hotel.

 

[Buttegrizzle]

One should never make big decision when they're at an emotional low point or at an emotional high point. Neither should the Griz. One game can't be the determining factor.

Exactly. Plus do we really want our head coach to be the guy who got blackout drunk in Vegas, broke into some dudes car at a strip club and stole his wallet and i thought gun too. Then wakes up with a hooker. And ends up getting arrested for the incident.

Well, how that is usually handled on a resume is:

"Is willing to take chances; understands risk, will put everything on the line to achieve a goal; in private, he's known as fun-loving and the life of the party."

I thought I heard that was Alpha?!

 

[rimrockgriz]

If the team were losing on the field, and/or failing in the classroom, and/or getting arrested on and off campus, I would be the first to say, Spanky, bring in an outsider to clean up this mess.

But none of those problems exist today. Mick, ably assisted by Scott and Ty and the rest of his staff, just steered our good ship through the stormiest seas in the history of GRIZ football which included intense local, state, and national media attention, an NCAA and DOJ investigation and the loss of 4 scholarships, and the suspension, intense rape trial and subsequent acquittal of Jordan Johnson, our starting QB, and the team ably captained by Mick sailed through all of these trials and tribulations ! And through all of this turmoil we continued to win on the field, learn in the classroom, and especially stay out of trouble on and off campus and contribute to UM and Missoula both on and off the field.

As the most visible proof of this success, we have now demolished our in-state rival two years in a row. Therefore, I think we should maintain the continuity of success and momentum Mick is recommending by hiring Scott or Ty.

"If it ain't broke, don't fix it !"

I don't know what your true agenda is, but I certainly feel you are clueless or delusional. :roll: This coaching staff has no one who is qualified to lead this team to the next era of dominance. One victory over the Cats and you are wanting to tie the knot? Did you marry your first girlfriend? uke: O.M.F.G. Go take a cold shower and get grip. jeeeez... :egrizmaybe keep the Green kid...but other than that :grenade

 

[CV Griz Fan]

Here's the real issue with the bouncer's stolen gun and wallet, as explained by Gregorak's attorney at the time:

"" He is ashamed that an innocent night out has led to allegations which bring him, his family, and the University embarrassment. He is looking forward to continuing to cooperate fully with the investigation, putting the matter behind him, and continuing his distinguished career."

Whether Gregorak did it, didn't remember doing it, remembers but won't admit it, he brought embarrassment to the the university he worked for. Whether or not he stole the wallet and gun, he revealed himself to be, on that night, a pub crawler so intoxicated he couldn't remember what the hell went on.

Not only that, but it also turns out his Montana driver's license had been revoked for drunken driving. And he was driving. The police tracked him down by the license plates on his rental car.

In applying for the Montana Tech job, Gregorak told his would-be employer, that he was on a university recruiting/reunion when the incident occurred. That means he represented his university terribly. If UNLV paid for the rental car Gregroak drove, drunk, without a license, he did his employer even worse.

So, whether he stole a wallet and gun during his drunken stumble is irrelevant. The rest of his behavior that evening -- the behavior that he seems to admit to --- was bad enough to not be the head coach.

Why do you have to lie? Why can't you stick with the facts?

There is no evidence that he was drunk that night. In fact, the best evidence, from 10 of his friends with him that and the hotel desk clerks and hotel video, is that he was not drunk. He wasn't driving his car that night, so he couldn't have been driving drunk. There is no evidence that he broke into the bouncer's car and took the stuff. In fact, the evidence is that he didn't do that. The evidence is that the bouncer lied about seeing him that night, and about him being at the strip club. And he's admitted that he found the stuff in his room in the morning, and took it back to the bouncer. Who in their right mind would break into a car, steal stuff, and then return it to the guy's house in the morning? The best answer to the mystery is that this was all a set up, and that's why this stuff ended up in his room without it being stolen from the car and without it being carried by him into the hotel.

PR, you are a very entertaining poster and I have always given you credit for that. Your post is pure entertainment. I have one question for you, did you miss the Occam's Razor lecture in your Frosh year Logic Class at Dartmouth? No, it just can't be the simplest explanation to the mystery of TG's night in question. It has to be the elaborate conspiring of evil forces. Somebody set Ty up. Even though TG had a history of getting a DUI and attending AA meetings, the night in question couldn't be a drunken bar hopping night with old college teammates. It had more sneaky and dark origins. I am sorry. I just don't buy it. The more that I think about it it just appears to be another "mike price" type incident and attempted cover up. Ty had the corporate credit card and he partied with former CU buddies. Ty even suggested he was drugged at one point. Funny since he was with his buddies all night. As far as driving drunk, it doesn't matter. Ty rented a car with a revoked driver license. Isn't that a legal issue? Was he planning on driving the car around Boulder? Sorry but griz4life nailed it IMO. Does he deserve to be considered for the Griz job? Yes, but he has some baggage. Just like Krammer, Hauck and the CSU-Pueblo guy.

 

[PlayerRep]

Here's the real issue with the bouncer's stolen gun and wallet, as explained by Gregorak's attorney at the time:

"" He is ashamed that an innocent night out has led to allegations which bring him, his family, and the University embarrassment. He is looking forward to continuing to cooperate fully with the investigation, putting the matter behind him, and continuing his distinguished career."

Whether Gregorak did it, didn't remember doing it, remembers but won't admit it, he brought embarrassment to the the university he worked for. Whether or not he stole the wallet and gun, he revealed himself to be, on that night, a pub crawler so intoxicated he couldn't remember what the hell went on.

Not only that, but it also turns out his Montana driver's license had been revoked for drunken driving. And he was driving. The police tracked him down by the license plates on his rental car.

In applying for the Montana Tech job, Gregorak told his would-be employer, that he was on a university recruiting/reunion when the incident occurred. That means he represented his university terribly. If UNLV paid for the rental car Gregroak drove, drunk, without a license, he did his employer even worse.

So, whether he stole a wallet and gun during his drunken stumble is irrelevant. The rest of his behavior that evening -- the behavior that he seems to admit to --- was bad enough to not be the head coach.

Why do you have to lie? Why can't you stick with the facts?

There is no evidence that he was drunk that night. In fact, the best evidence, from 10 of his friends with him that and the hotel desk clerks and hotel video, is that he was not drunk. He wasn't driving his car that night, so he couldn't have been driving drunk. There is no evidence that he broke into the bouncer's car and took the stuff. In fact, the evidence is that he didn't do that. The evidence is that the bouncer lied about seeing him that night, and about him being at the strip club. And he's admitted that he found the stuff in his room in the morning, and took it back to the bouncer. Who in their right mind would break into a car, steal stuff, and then return it to the guy's house in the morning? The best answer to the mystery is that this was all a set up, and that's why this stuff ended up in his room without it being stolen from the car and without it being carried by him into the hotel.

PR, you are a very entertaining poster and I have always given you credit for that. Your post is pure entertainment. I have one question for you, did you miss the Occam's Razor lecture in your Frosh year Logic Class at Dartmouth? No, it just can't be the simplest explanation to the mystery of TG's night in question. It has to be the elaborate conspiring of evil forces. Somebody set Ty up. Even though TG had a history of getting a DUI and attending AA meetings, the night in question couldn't be a drunken bar hopping night with old college teammates. It had more sneaky and dark origins. I am sorry. I just don't buy it. The more that I think about it it just appears to be another "mike price" type incident and attempted cover up. Ty had the corporate credit card and he partied with former CU buddies. Ty even suggested he was drugged at one point. Funny since he was with his buddies all night. As far as driving drunk, it doesn't matter. Ty rented a car with a revoked driver license. Isn't that a legal issue? Was he planning on driving the car around Boulder? Sorry but griz4life nailed it IMO. Does he deserve to be considered for the Griz job? Yes, but he has some baggage. Just like Krammer, Hauck and the CSU-Pueblo guy.

CV, you just can't stick with the facts. You have to make up stuff. I know a good deal about this situation, and a heck of alot more than you do. On the license, by the way, I'm not so sure that the article was right about a revoked license, or not having a valid license, but don't know for sure.

If there is no evidence of the car being broken into or no one sees anyone go into the car and no one shows up on the garage video, and no video shows him carrying anything into the hotel or hotel room, and multiple people say he wasn't drunk, and the stuff ends up in his room--a set up is much more plausible than anything else. Feel free to tell us what happened, but be consistent with the facts and evidence.

 

[GrizLA]

Here's the real issue with the bouncer's stolen gun and wallet, as explained by Gregorak's attorney at the time:

"" He is ashamed that an innocent night out has led to allegations which bring him, his family, and the University embarrassment. He is looking forward to continuing to cooperate fully with the investigation, putting the matter behind him, and continuing his distinguished career."

Whether Gregorak did it, didn't remember doing it, remembers but won't admit it, he brought embarrassment to the the university he worked for. Whether or not he stole the wallet and gun, he revealed himself to be, on that night, a pub crawler so intoxicated he couldn't remember what the hell went on.

Not only that, but it also turns out his Montana driver's license had been revoked for drunken driving. And he was driving. The police tracked him down by the license plates on his rental car.

In applying for the Montana Tech job, Gregorak told his would-be employer, that he was on a university recruiting/reunion when the incident occurred. That means he represented his university terribly. If UNLV paid for the rental car Gregroak drove, drunk, without a license, he did his employer even worse.

So, whether he stole a wallet and gun during his drunken stumble is irrelevant. The rest of his behavior that evening -- the behavior that he seems to admit to --- was bad enough to not be the head coach.

Why do you have to lie? Why can't you stick with the facts?

There is no evidence that he was drunk that night. In fact, the best evidence, from 10 of his friends with him that and the hotel desk clerks and hotel video, is that he was not drunk. He wasn't driving his car that night, so he couldn't have been driving drunk. There is no evidence that he broke into the bouncer's car and took the stuff. In fact, the evidence is that he didn't do that. The evidence is that the bouncer lied about seeing him that night, and about him being at the strip club. And he's admitted that he found the stuff in his room in the morning, and took it back to the bouncer. Who in their right mind would break into a car, steal stuff, and then return it to the guy's house in the morning? The best answer to the mystery is that this was all a set up, and that's why this stuff ended up in his room without it being stolen from the car and without it being carried by him into the hotel.

PR, you are a very entertaining poster and I have always given you credit for that. Your post is pure entertainment. I have one question for you, did you miss the Occam's Razor lecture in your Frosh year Logic Class at Dartmouth? No, it just can't be the simplest explanation to the mystery of TG's night in question. It has to be the elaborate conspiring of evil forces. Somebody set Ty up. Even though TG had a history of getting a DUI and attending AA meetings, the night in question couldn't be a drunken bar hopping night with old college teammates. It had more sneaky and dark origins. I am sorry. I just don't buy it. The more that I think about it it just appears to be another "mike price" type incident and attempted cover up. Ty had the corporate credit card and he partied with former CU buddies. Ty even suggested he was drugged at one point. Funny since he was with his buddies all night. As far as driving drunk, it doesn't matter. Ty rented a car with a revoked driver license. Isn't that a legal issue? Was he planning on driving the car around Boulder? Sorry but griz4life nailed it IMO. Does he deserve to be considered for the Griz job? Yes, but he has some baggage. Just like Krammer, Hauck and the CSU-Pueblo guy.

CV, you just can't stick with the facts. You have to make up stuff. I know a good deal about this situation, and a heck of alot more than you do. On the license, by the way, I'm not so sure that the article was right about a revoked license, or not having a valid license, but don't know for sure.

If there is no evidence of the car being broken into or no one sees anyone go into the car and no one shows up on the garage video, and no video shows him carrying anything into the hotel or hotel room, and multiple people say he wasn't drunk, and the stuff ends up in his room--a set up is much more plausible than anything else. Feel free to tell us what happened, but be consistent with the facts and evidence.

That this is even being discussed on this board after what UM has done to "clean house" tells me just enough that the search for a new coach should not include this fella, at this time. UM has just completed a very turbulent time, why would anyone want to prolong it?

 

[CV Griz Fan]

Here's the real issue with the bouncer's stolen gun and wallet, as explained by Gregorak's attorney at the time:

"" He is ashamed that an innocent night out has led to allegations which bring him, his family, and the University embarrassment. He is looking forward to continuing to cooperate fully with the investigation, putting the matter behind him, and continuing his distinguished career."

Whether Gregorak did it, didn't remember doing it, remembers but won't admit it, he brought embarrassment to the the university he worked for. Whether or not he stole the wallet and gun, he revealed himself to be, on that night, a pub crawler so intoxicated he couldn't remember what the hell went on.

Not only that, but it also turns out his Montana driver's license had been revoked for drunken driving. And he was driving. The police tracked him down by the license plates on his rental car.

In applying for the Montana Tech job, Gregorak told his would-be employer, that he was on a university recruiting/reunion when the incident occurred. That means he represented his university terribly. If UNLV paid for the rental car Gregroak drove, drunk, without a license, he did his employer even worse.

So, whether he stole a wallet and gun during his drunken stumble is irrelevant. The rest of his behavior that evening -- the behavior that he seems to admit to --- was bad enough to not be the head coach.

Why do you have to lie? Why can't you stick with the facts?

There is no evidence that he was drunk that night. In fact, the best evidence, from 10 of his friends with him that and the hotel desk clerks and hotel video, is that he was not drunk. He wasn't driving his car that night, so he couldn't have been driving drunk. There is no evidence that he broke into the bouncer's car and took the stuff. In fact, the evidence is that he didn't do that. The evidence is that the bouncer lied about seeing him that night, and about him being at the strip club. And he's admitted that he found the stuff in his room in the morning, and took it back to the bouncer. Who in their right mind would break into a car, steal stuff, and then return it to the guy's house in the morning? The best answer to the mystery is that this was all a set up, and that's why this stuff ended up in his room without it being stolen from the car and without it being carried by him into the hotel.

PR, you are a very entertaining poster and I have always given you credit for that. Your post is pure entertainment. I have one question for you, did you miss the Occam's Razor lecture in your Frosh year Logic Class at Dartmouth? No, it just can't be the simplest explanation to the mystery of TG's night in question. It has to be the elaborate conspiring of evil forces. Somebody set Ty up. Even though TG had a history of getting a DUI and attending AA meetings, the night in question couldn't be a drunken bar hopping night with old college teammates. It had more sneaky and dark origins. I am sorry. I just don't buy it. The more that I think about it it just appears to be another "mike price" type incident and attempted cover up. Ty had the corporate credit card and he partied with former CU buddies. Ty even suggested he was drugged at one point. Funny since he was with his buddies all night. As far as driving drunk, it doesn't matter. Ty rented a car with a revoked driver license. Isn't that a legal issue? Was he planning on driving the car around Boulder? Sorry but griz4life nailed it IMO. Does he deserve to be considered for the Griz job? Yes, but he has some baggage. Just like Krammer, Hauck and the CSU-Pueblo guy.

CV, you just can't stick with the facts. You have to make up stuff. I know a good deal about this situation, and a heck of alot more than you do. On the license, by the way, I'm not so sure that the article was right about a revoked license, or not having a valid license, but don't know for sure.

If there is no evidence of the car being broken into or no one sees anyone go into the car and no one shows up on the garage video, and no video shows him carrying anything into the hotel or hotel room, and multiple people say he wasn't drunk, and the stuff ends up in his room--a set up is much more plausible than anything else. Feel free to tell us what happened, but be consistent with the facts and evidence.

You are right. Let's focus on the facts of the Boulder affair-

Ty had the stolen items in his room.
Ty rented a car with a revoked DL.
Ty said that he may have been drugged but he wasn't drunk.
Ty has had alcohol problems in the past and he has admitted that fact.

There you go .......

 

[PlayerRep]

Why do you have to lie? Why can't you stick with the facts?

There is no evidence that he was drunk that night. In fact, the best evidence, from 10 of his friends with him that and the hotel desk clerks and hotel video, is that he was not drunk. He wasn't driving his car that night, so he couldn't have been driving drunk. There is no evidence that he broke into the bouncer's car and took the stuff. In fact, the evidence is that he didn't do that. The evidence is that the bouncer lied about seeing him that night, and about him being at the strip club. And he's admitted that he found the stuff in his room in the morning, and took it back to the bouncer. Who in their right mind would break into a car, steal stuff, and then return it to the guy's house in the morning? The best answer to the mystery is that this was all a set up, and that's why this stuff ended up in his room without it being stolen from the car and without it being carried by him into the hotel.

PR, you are a very entertaining poster and I have always given you credit for that. Your post is pure entertainment. I have one question for you, did you miss the Occam's Razor lecture in your Frosh year Logic Class at Dartmouth? No, it just can't be the simplest explanation to the mystery of TG's night in question. It has to be the elaborate conspiring of evil forces. Somebody set Ty up. Even though TG had a history of getting a DUI and attending AA meetings, the night in question couldn't be a drunken bar hopping night with old college teammates. It had more sneaky and dark origins. I am sorry. I just don't buy it. The more that I think about it it just appears to be another "mike price" type incident and attempted cover up. Ty had the corporate credit card and he partied with former CU buddies. Ty even suggested he was drugged at one point. Funny since he was with his buddies all night. As far as driving drunk, it doesn't matter. Ty rented a car with a revoked driver license. Isn't that a legal issue? Was he planning on driving the car around Boulder? Sorry but griz4life nailed it IMO. Does he deserve to be considered for the Griz job? Yes, but he has some baggage. Just like Krammer, Hauck and the CSU-Pueblo guy.

CV, you just can't stick with the facts. You have to make up stuff. I know a good deal about this situation, and a heck of alot more than you do. On the license, by the way, I'm not so sure that the article was right about a revoked license, or not having a valid license, but don't know for sure.

If there is no evidence of the car being broken into or no one sees anyone go into the car and no one shows up on the garage video, and no video shows him carrying anything into the hotel or hotel room, and multiple people say he wasn't drunk, and the stuff ends up in his room--a set up is much more plausible than anything else. Feel free to tell us what happened, but be consistent with the facts and evidence.

You are right. Let's focus on the facts of the Boulder affair-

Ty had the stolen items in his room.
Ty rented a car with a revoked DL.
Ty said that he may have been drugged but he wasn't drunk.
Ty has had alcohol problems in the past and he has admitted that fact.

There you go .......

You're getting closer to the facts. Items were in his room. Zero evidence that they were stolen. Not so sure there was a revoked license involved. If it was revoked, it should have been taken away. Not so sure there was ever an admission of alcohol problems. You want us to believe that a really drunk guy could locate the parked car of a bouncer (or randomly selected the car of a bouncer who would claim that he was the guy he had a confrontation with earlier); sneak past the nearby parking attendant and avoid video cameras, break into a locked car, leave no finger prints or evidence of breaking into the car; sneak the items into a hotel, even tho the desk clerk and all video cameras showed him not carrying anything; and all this involving a bouncer who did not report to the police the breaking into the car, and the stealing of his wallet, gun, etc. and who apparently had connections to the ex-wife. Sorry, that's just not very plausible.

Additional facts are that, after the police did their investigation and viewed the tape at the bar, they immediately dropped the charges. And, the UNLV AD who fired him, later starting giving him recommendations for jobs. And a year later, UM had TG and later promoted him to DC.

 

[Buttegrizzle]

Give it a rest CV. If Gregorak had serious issues no way in hell he would have been hired as DC in the first place, given the environment. As I posted on another thread, I see no reason not to consider Gregorak. He was good enough to hire initially, has had no troubles in his time here and has proven himself successful.

 

[grizpack]

All of this arguing back and forth aside....

I hope that KH goes outside the family tree for this one. I don't think either of these guys are ready to be head coaches yet. Maybe in the future, but not yet. Head coaching jobs are not "next man up".