Stitt Crew vs Hauck Crew - what is noticeable

[argh!]

hauck has a much easier schedule.

 

[argh!]

hauck hasn't had to play his back-up qb as a starter

How many QB’s knock out with Stitt’s high school offense, while Hauck starting QB still in tack.

stitt's qb didn't have to carry the rushing load on top of passing.

 

[Mousegriz]

Stitt's Crew doesn't coach the University of Montana football team anymore and Hauck's Crew does!

 

[flowtowngriz]

The biggest stat between the two coaches is turnovers.

 

[Ursa Major]

You guys know me, I'm a stats dork and obviously stats don't tell the whole story. Comparing 2018 so far to 2017's final tally;

- 2018's offense is averaging about 20 less yards per game but is (as expected) doing better with rushing yards. It is scoring 3 points more per game this year and holding the ball for precisely 1:00 more of TOP. The 2018 offense has about 2% less rate of converting 3rd downs than 2017's.

- 2018's defense is allowing an average of 10 yards less per game and almost 3 points less allowed per game. The 2018 defense is allowing 3rd down conversions at a rate of 1% more than the 2017 defense.

- Both offensively and defensively the 2017 team was slightly better at scoring TDs and preventing TDs in the red zone but interestingly enough the 2018 team is better overall at scoring once in the RZ (helps with Semenza being 100% at fieldgoals).

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In terms of the staff itself obviously it's moved from a younger staff that was maybe more "relatable" to players to a more traditional staff that's by far much more experienced but maybe a little less relatable.

So far this staff has shown a significantly better ability to game-plan for specific opponents.

I feel the prior staff was a little more conservative with some in-game decisions, thinking about the times of 4th and short plays the Griz this year have taken some risks on.

The way each staff ran spring and fall camps were night and day almost.

While really early I believe the results in the changes so far are really paying off.

BW--What is the turnover comparison between the two teams? I would expect the '17 defense to have more turnovers due to the focus of the coaches to rip the ball away from offensive players. This of course had the drawback of poor tackling--at least according to the e-Griz gurus.

Thanks!!

 

[mtgrizfankb]

anyone want to go through the data and compare drives with less than 2 first downs? I would be curious but I'm pretty lazy

 

[Ursa Major]

anyone want to go through the data and compare drives with less than 2 first downs? I would be curious but I'm pretty lazy

:lol:

I was relying on BW's inquisitive nature to get my stats for me. Way too close to beer-thirty for me to be burdened by such menial tasks.

 

[Spanky2]

Stitt's Crew doesn't coach the University of Montana football team anymore and Hauck's Crew does!

Amen!

 

[mtgrizfankb]

anyone want to go through the data and compare drives with less than 2 first downs? I would be curious but I'm pretty lazy

:lol:

I was relying on BW's inquisitive nature to get my stats for me. Way too close to beer-thirty for me to be burdened by such menial tasks.

I went through and did some half ass analysis.

Drives with 5 or less plays (through 5 games):
2017- 41
2018- 39

Drives with 10 or more plays:
2017- 8
2018- 6

Drives with less than 7 plays but scored:
2017-12
2018-17

Drives with 7 or more plays and scored:
2017-15
2018-13


Total offensive Scores through five games:
2017- 28
2018- 31

Total First Downs Through 5:
2017-114
2018-101


Now this is a tiny sample size: 5 games is pretty small. Not to mention that that our opponents are vastly different. We had to play UW last year but have VALPO and Savanna. This year we had UNI and WIU but had Drake. this will be much more interested at year end to be honest.

These stats would prove the opposite of what we have been preaching. We have been actually more explosive this year and scored more without many plays. We also have not had very many long drives. We have had a few less drives with 5 or less but not a ton. These stats don't seem to match everything we have been seeing or thinking but there are other stats that could cause these to skew.

 

[grizband]

anyone want to go through the data and compare drives with less than 2 first downs? I would be curious but I'm pretty lazy

:lol:

I was relying on BW's inquisitive nature to get my stats for me. Way too close to beer-thirty for me to be burdened by such menial tasks.

I went through and did some half ass analysis.

Drives with 5 or less plays (through 5 games):
2017- 41
2018- 39

Drives with 10 or more plays:
2017- 8
2018- 6

Drives with less than 7 plays but scored:
2017-12
2018-17

Drives with 7 or more plays and scored:
2017-15
2018-13


Total offensive Scores through five games:
2017- 28
2018- 31

Total First Downs Through 5:
2017-114
2018-101


Now this is a tiny sample size: 5 games is pretty small. Not to mention that that our opponents are vastly different. We had to play UW last year but have VALPO and Savanna. This year we had UNI and WIU but had Drake. this will be much more interested at year end to be honest.

These stats would prove the opposite of what we have been preaching. We have been actually more explosive this year and scored more without many plays. We also have not had very many long drives. We have had a few less drives with 5 or less but not a ton. These stats don't seem to match everything we have been seeing or thinking but there are other stats that could cause these to skew.

I'm a stat nerd, I'm actually working on this right now. I'll post later today.

 

[BWahlberg]

The biggest stat between the two coaches is turnovers.

Hard to totally predict but based on the current 5 games this year's team would finish with 11 forced interceptions and 9 recovered fumbles.

2017's team had 16 interceptions and 7 forced fumbles.

But that's half the story.

On the otherside the 2018's team is projected to throw 7 interceptions and lose 7 fumbles.

Where 2017's team threw 16 interceptions and lost 10 fumbles.

That would project 2018 to be +6 where the 2017 team finished -3.

 

[argh!]

The biggest stat between the two coaches is turnovers.

Hard to totally predict but based on the current 5 games this year's team would finish with 11 forced interceptions and 9 recovered fumbles.

2017's team had 16 interceptions and 7 forced fumbles.

But that's half the story.

On the otherside the 2018's team is projected to throw 7 interceptions and lose 7 fumbles.

Where 2017's team threw 16 interceptions and lost 10 fumbles.

That would project 2018 to be +6 where the 2017 team finished -3.

in other words, you'll twist any stat available to try to make hauck look better?

 

[argh!]

anyone want to go through the data and compare drives with less than 2 first downs? I would be curious but I'm pretty lazy

:lol:

I was relying on BW's inquisitive nature to get my stats for me. Way too close to beer-thirty for me to be burdened by such menial tasks.

I went through and did some half ass analysis.

Drives with 5 or less plays (through 5 games):
2017- 41
2018- 39

Drives with 10 or more plays:
2017- 8
2018- 6

Drives with less than 7 plays but scored:
2017-12
2018-17

Drives with 7 or more plays and scored:
2017-15
2018-13


Total offensive Scores through five games:
2017- 28
2018- 31

Total First Downs Through 5:
2017-114
2018-101


Now this is a tiny sample size: 5 games is pretty small. Not to mention that that our opponents are vastly different. We had to play UW last year but have VALPO and Savanna. This year we had UNI and WIU but had Drake. this will be much more interested at year end to be honest.

These stats would prove the opposite of what we have been preaching. We have been actually more explosive this year and scored more without many plays. We also have not had very many long drives. We have had a few less drives with 5 or less but not a ton. These stats don't seem to match everything we have been seeing or thinking but there are other stats that could cause these to skew.

do you know how many total plays those numbers are taken from?

 

[mtgrizfankb]

anyone want to go through the data and compare drives with less than 2 first downs? I would be curious but I'm pretty lazy

:lol:

I was relying on BW's inquisitive nature to get my stats for me. Way too close to beer-thirty for me to be burdened by such menial tasks.

I went through and did some half ass analysis.

Drives with 5 or less plays (through 5 games):
2017- 41
2018- 39

Drives with 10 or more plays:
2017- 8
2018- 6

Drives with less than 7 plays but scored:
2017-12
2018-17

Drives with 7 or more plays and scored:
2017-15
2018-13


Total offensive Scores through five games:
2017- 28
2018- 31

Total First Downs Through 5:
2017-114
2018-101


Now this is a tiny sample size: 5 games is pretty small. Not to mention that that our opponents are vastly different. We had to play UW last year but have VALPO and Savanna. This year we had UNI and WIU but had Drake. this will be much more interested at year end to be honest.

These stats would prove the opposite of what we have been preaching. We have been actually more explosive this year and scored more without many plays. We also have not had very many long drives. We have had a few less drives with 5 or less but not a ton. These stats don't seem to match everything we have been seeing or thinking but there are other stats that could cause these to skew.

do you know how many total plays those numbers are taken from?

see now i have to do more work.... i knew this would happen

 

[mtgrizfankb]

:lol:

I was relying on BW's inquisitive nature to get my stats for me. Way too close to beer-thirty for me to be burdened by such menial tasks.

I went through and did some half ass analysis.

Drives with 5 or less plays (through 5 games):
2017- 41
2018- 39

Drives with 10 or more plays:
2017- 8
2018- 6

Drives with less than 7 plays but scored:
2017-12
2018-17

Drives with 7 or more plays and scored:
2017-15
2018-13


Total offensive Scores through five games:
2017- 28
2018- 31

Total First Downs Through 5:
2017-114
2018-101


Now this is a tiny sample size: 5 games is pretty small. Not to mention that that our opponents are vastly different. We had to play UW last year but have VALPO and Savanna. This year we had UNI and WIU but had Drake. this will be much more interested at year end to be honest.

These stats would prove the opposite of what we have been preaching. We have been actually more explosive this year and scored more without many plays. We also have not had very many long drives. We have had a few less drives with 5 or less but not a ton. These stats don't seem to match everything we have been seeing or thinking but there are other stats that could cause these to skew.

do you know how many total plays those numbers are taken from?

see now i have to do more work.... i knew this would happen

2017 through 5 games - 395 offensive plays
2018 through 5 games - 353 offensive plays

we only ran 54 plays last week

 

[argh!]

I went through and did some half ass analysis.

Drives with 5 or less plays (through 5 games):
2017- 41
2018- 39

Drives with 10 or more plays:
2017- 8
2018- 6

Drives with less than 7 plays but scored:
2017-12
2018-17

Drives with 7 or more plays and scored:
2017-15
2018-13


Total offensive Scores through five games:
2017- 28
2018- 31

Total First Downs Through 5:
2017-114
2018-101


Now this is a tiny sample size: 5 games is pretty small. Not to mention that that our opponents are vastly different. We had to play UW last year but have VALPO and Savanna. This year we had UNI and WIU but had Drake. this will be much more interested at year end to be honest.

These stats would prove the opposite of what we have been preaching. We have been actually more explosive this year and scored more without many plays. We also have not had very many long drives. We have had a few less drives with 5 or less but not a ton. These stats don't seem to match everything we have been seeing or thinking but there are other stats that could cause these to skew.

do you know how many total plays those numbers are taken from?

see now i have to do more work.... i knew this would happen

2017 through 5 games - 395 offensive plays
2018 through 5 games - 353 offensive plays

we only ran 54 plays last week

thanks! also, just my opinion, but i'd say that the university of washington qualifies as a statistical and otherwise 'outlier' opponent for the griz compared to all the others they faced this year, last year, and the year before. i think a more valid comparison would be the first 5 non-uw games versus this year.

 

[mtgrizfankb]

2017- 74 offensive drives
2018- 69 offensive drives

 

[Grizlaw]

From my perspective, the team is just playing better fundamental football now. Several people have already mentioned tackling, but I’ll say it again — open field tackling this year vs last year is night vs day. Pass coverage is better now, too - last year, when one of our DBs was one-on-one with a receiver on a long route, our guy usually either got beat or committed a silly pass interference penalty. Now we have DBs covering receivers and winning battles more often than not. We had good athletes last year, too, but now we have coaches who place more value on defense, and it shows.

 

[Grizzly96]

hauck hasn't had to play his back-up qb as a starter

How many QB’s knock out with Stitt’s high school offense, while Hauck starting QB still in tack.

stitt's qb didn't have to carry the rushing load on top of passing.

NOBODY was carrying the rushing load really......There’s a reason teams didn’t line up to hire him to another head coach job when he was let go. And it went beyond coaching X’s and O’s!!!

 

[catsack]

hauck has a much easier schedule.

Not!!