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Sac to the Mac

Cowboys84 said:
Yeah still playing in a lower level of college football, where your supposed leaders of the program hope that in 5-6 years FCS and G5 merge. Even then, Judging from the A.D's at Montana Grizzlies current comments they still won't be ready to make the move..kinda sad actually.
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Your kitty cats are in exact same situation. Are you butt hurt about that too or just like to bitch over here every…single…day.
 
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HookedonGriz said:
Your kitty cats are in exact same situation. Are you butt hurt about that too or just like to bitch over here every…single…day.
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MY kitty cats..🤣😂
Butt hurt ? I have a feeling you've had that asked to you once or100×s in your lifetime am I right?.. its o.k. tho you go do your business, no judging...🤫
Bitching on here?.. Nah just throwing out facts and handing out L's..👍
 
SDHornet said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/2022859718960594983


It's not the PAC like Dr. Wood wanted but he delivered on FBS status. All the haters can line up for their serving of crow. As I said in one of the other numerous Sac to FBS threads you guys started, markets matter and Dr. Wood leveraged that and the West Coast time slot for a MAC invite.
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Did he leverage the market? Or did he offer an insane amount of money and financial package to buy their way in?

Edit -- Fun article you should read. https://archive.is/20260224174631/h...sacramento-state-football-mac-economic-impact

Important quote -- "Said Matheson: “They’re conflating appearing on TV and losing 52-7 to Bowling Green with a targeted ad designed to actually bring people to Sacramento to spend money and spend tuition dollars. They are conflating just being on TV with actual advertising.”

Della Monica said today’s sophisticated metrics allow for economic impact to be traced to its source rather than broadly estimated in advance — for instance, if you bought a ticket based on a TV promotion that required a click to redeem.

Isn’t a televised football game in itself a three-hour advertisement for the school? Yes, but …
“We saw you on ESPN, and now we want to sponsor you?” Della Monica said. “That isn’t how sports sponsorships work.”

Even Russell Wright, the founder of Collegiate Consulting, acknowledged to CBS Sports that economic impact estimates by themselves are of limited use.

“Unless there’s something actionable after the fact it’s not really economic impact, it’s more economic valuation,” Wright said.

Wright told CBS that Wood’s $675 million estimate of broadcast-related economic impact was “not anywhere in our report.” (It’s not.) Wright also said Wood’s $975 million estimate of total economic impact mischaracterized the study.

Wood said he simply took the one-year estimate in the study and multiplied it to account for Sacramento State’s five-year agreement with the MAC. He said he was baffled by Wright’s comment.
“I wonder how that was asked of him,” Wood said. “Over five years is exactly what I said.
“I’m a professor. I’ve done economic impact studies. Multiplying that number by five years is perfectly appropriate.”

That adjective would not apply to a public skirmish between the president of the university and the consultant that conducted the study commissioned by the university.

Cal State campuses in Long Beach, Fullerton and Northridge dropped football to save money decades ago, and today each campus enrolls more students than Sacramento does. For Wood and Orr, the football upgrade in Sacramento nonetheless represents a play to increase enrollment — particularly from out-of-state students that pay higher tuition — and engage a region with almost 3 million residents and limited sports options."

Who, exactly, should be eating crow here?
 
Cowboys84 said:
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MY kitty cats..🤣😂
Butt hurt ? I have a feeling you've had that asked to you once or100×s in your lifetime am I right?.. its o.k. tho you go do your business, no judging...🤫
Bitching on here?.. Nah just throwing out facts and handing out L's..👍
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Well you are a cats fan, 100%, proven beyond doubt….who posts here every single day trying to take shots at Griz. In this instance, your Cats and my Griz are tied at the hip together to either move up together or not move up at all. They will never go up individually, won’t happen. So every time you bitch and complain about the Griz over here and their not moving up, you’re bitChing about your cats too as they are in same exact boat. Why don’t you bitch on kitty nation instead of here? Strange ducks, cats fans.
 
ElrodGrizzly said:
Did he leverage the market? Or did he offer an insane amount of money and financial package to buy their way in?

Edit -- Fun article you should read. https://archive.is/20260224174631/h...sacramento-state-football-mac-economic-impact

Important quote -- "Said Matheson: “They’re conflating appearing on TV and losing 52-7 to Bowling Green with a targeted ad designed to actually bring people to Sacramento to spend money and spend tuition dollars. They are conflating just being on TV with actual advertising.”

Della Monica said today’s sophisticated metrics allow for economic impact to be traced to its source rather than broadly estimated in advance — for instance, if you bought a ticket based on a TV promotion that required a click to redeem.

Isn’t a televised football game in itself a three-hour advertisement for the school? Yes, but …
“We saw you on ESPN, and now we want to sponsor you?” Della Monica said. “That isn’t how sports sponsorships work.”

Even Russell Wright, the founder of Collegiate Consulting, acknowledged to CBS Sports that economic impact estimates by themselves are of limited use.

“Unless there’s something actionable after the fact it’s not really economic impact, it’s more economic valuation,” Wright said.

Wright told CBS that Wood’s $675 million estimate of broadcast-related economic impact was “not anywhere in our report.” (It’s not.) Wright also said Wood’s $975 million estimate of total economic impact mischaracterized the study.

Wood said he simply took the one-year estimate in the study and multiplied it to account for Sacramento State’s five-year agreement with the MAC. He said he was baffled by Wright’s comment.
“I wonder how that was asked of him,” Wood said. “Over five years is exactly what I said.
“I’m a professor. I’ve done economic impact studies. Multiplying that number by five years is perfectly appropriate.”

That adjective would not apply to a public skirmish between the president of the university and the consultant that conducted the study commissioned by the university.

Cal State campuses in Long Beach, Fullerton and Northridge dropped football to save money decades ago, and today each campus enrolls more students than Sacramento does. For Wood and Orr, the football upgrade in Sacramento nonetheless represents a play to increase enrollment — particularly from out-of-state students that pay higher tuition — and engage a region with almost 3 million residents and limited sports options."

Who, exactly, should be eating crow here?
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Dare I say, Wood drastically overestimates the economic impact of an FBS move predicated upon TV broadcasts, especially MAC TV broadcasts? I got that from Jody Sears' "Football in Sacramento County," page 98. I'm not gonna plagiarize the whole thing for you. I don't have any thoughts of my own on the matter. This is just my thing, I come onto eGriz, quote some obscure passage and then pretend - I pawn it off as my own, as my own idea just to impress some girls, embarrass myself.
 
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HelenaHandBasket said:
Do you really think the cap limits there ability to attract players for a FCS school?
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Definitely, not just football at UM, if you had a higher revenue share you 1. Could get better women basketball players, team is awful, 2. Attract soccer players, Kent let the team get gutted in December have 13 players season starts in August, 3. Men’s. Basketball team is bad. Men’s and women bball actual make money if they make the ncaa tournament.
 
ElrodGrizzly said:
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Cal State campuses in Long Beach, Fullerton and Northridge dropped football to save money decades ago, and today each campus enrolls more students than Sacramento does. For Wood and Orr, the football upgrade in Sacramento nonetheless represents a play to increase enrollment — particularly from out-of-state students that pay higher tuition — and engage a region with almost 3 million residents and limited sports options."

Who, exactly, should be eating crow here?
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I'm having a hard time believing that many out-of-state students are considering SS. A more likely scenario is they're trying to claw a few of the Cali kids that are going out of state (BSU, MSU, etc.) back. Maybe they'll have some luck there, but from the Cali kids I've spoken with, they can't wait to get out of Cali.
 
MontanaGrizSoccer said:
Definitely, not just football at UM, if you had a higher revenue share you 1. Could get better women basketball players, team is awful, 2. Attract soccer players, Kent let the team get gutted in December have 13 players season starts in August, 3. Men’s. Basketball team is bad. Men’s and women bball actual make money if they make the ncaa tournament.
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Basketball isn't bad because they didn't have more money. Soccer isn't gutted because of limited revenue share. Just throwing more money doesn't automatically fix the problem.
 
GoCatsGo! said:
I'm having a hard time believing that many out-of-state students are considering SS. A more likely scenario is they're trying to claw a few of the Cali kids that are going out of state (BSU, MSU, etc.) back. Maybe they'll have some luck there, but from the Cali kids I've spoken with, they can't wait to get out of Cali.
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Maybe they’re not from California if they’re calling it “Cali.” I live with three CA natives who sometimes seem rather unaware that other states exist. I try my best to remind them often. Alas, many people I run across are more like Lucille Bluth.

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Cowboys84 said:
Guess what when the MWC commisioner, Gloria Nevarez talked too Dom Izzo of WDAY-TV Fargo ND she specifically said after they added U.of Northern Illinois they only had one more team they were interested in expanding with and that was NDSU.. they are done looking for more teams for right now...

If Montanas' football coaching situation isn't shaky right now, tell me right now who your coach is going to be in two years from now?..

If Haslam is so confident in Kennedy why didn't he sign him to a contract as head coach longer than one year..

You are so full of bs..
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Kennedy will be coach in 2 years. I don’t know what Haslam thinks or was thinking. He hired Bib Stitt. He hired the women’s hoops coach who was let go a year ago. Most coaches have confidence that they can show their worth. BK is like that. Hauck never wanted a new contract until late in his last year either. You are full of bull and are clueless. You don’t know the Griz program, Haslam or BK.
 
MontanaGrizSoccer said:
Hope that's the case, is their a master plan for moving up to include WA Griz upgrade. Is their a fundraising campaign. While football is main attraction, all facilities all looked at, the softball facility currently has no bathrooms, the women's soccer locker room should be condemned by the city and is shared with the public.

The biggest hurdle is the BOR capping revenue sharing at 1.5 mil, in the MWC 1.5 is just the basketball revenue sharing, football is between 2-4 million. UM and MSU need to band together and make a case for increased funding.
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Yes, UM is on top of things. Stadium expansion on drawing board. No fund-raising for that yet. No need yet. The board of regents’ cap is fine. Assume UM won’t approach that anyway. One of reasons UM not ready to move up is because it doesn’t have funding to compete with MW funding.
 
HookedonGriz said:
Well you are a cats fan, 100%, proven beyond doubt….who posts here every single day trying to take shots at Griz. In this instance, your Cats and my Griz are tied at the hip together to either move up together or not move up at all. They will never go up individually, won’t happen. So every time you bitch and complain about the Griz over here and their not moving up, you’re bitChing about your cats too as they are in same exact boat. Why don’t you bitch on kitty nation instead of here? Strange ducks,
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Nope not really a big fan of the bobcats, or the Oregon Ducks either.😂🤣
 
CDAGRIZ said:
Maybe they’re not from California if they’re calling it “Cali.” I live with three CA natives who sometimes seem rather unaware that other states exist. I try my best to remind them often. Alas, many people I run across are more like Lucille Bluth.
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Apparently, Cameron Skattebo felt differently than Bluth about CA & AZ.

According to the internet, SS out-of-state enrollment is 1.18%, so it appears they have nowhere to go but up. Similar to your unaware roommates, I suspect most of the US population outside of CA are unaware that SS exists.
 
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