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QB transfer?

Britt's only meaningful snaps this season came in the NDSU game. It was the only one that was still in doubt when he entered the game, albeit briefly at that. Brown was the backup QB for both the SacState and Weber games. At that point, depth charts were there for a reason and we don't experiment in close games, or something to that effect. Weber held the offense to a buck-forty as you'll recall and much of that wasn't on the QB. The other albatross of the development process on the offensive side of the ball is the O-line, which got manhandled.

I think what continues to get lost in all of this talk of development frustrations are the logistics of it all. A transfer is going consume an inordinate amount of coaching resources because they're coming in cold and are expected to be "the guy" from day one. The backup get 30% of the snaps in normal practices and the remainder of them are catch as catch-can. What makes anyone think that at some point during a season, that you'll have guys on the bench who can come in without an enormous drop-off? All eggs, one basket. And as someone on here has pointed out, that seems to be a losing strategy long-term because guys get injured at some point during the season.

Truth is, Britt, Brown and Abbott should just hit the portal. Brown been demoted in-season for the past two, why would he be a viable #2 going forward? Wait, Hauck is still here, forget that. Britt is a different QB type from what I see in the potential new guy, so they'll be tweaking the offense to promote him not running like an LJ or Britt could. I didn't say he couldn't run, but that wasn't the offense at Indiana. Nobody has seen Abbott in game conditions, but I'd bet he was hopeful of competing, not just holding the clipboard until his class became viable for consideration for playing time. Huot and Ah-Yat can handle to scout teams. Much as any of us would love to believe that there is a "guy" among them, I don't think the coaches believe it, thus you get transfers.

The schizo selection and development process at Montana isn't going to get any better until they actually find a guy with the goods, develop him and a good backup, and push all their chips into the middle of the table. Until then, welcome back to Bobby-ball.
 
Spanky2 said:
Why are people concerned about the portal and a new method of recruiting? As we know, there are many unknowns in high school recruiting starting with the actual talent of the young man. The portal removes much of the mystery. It appears that many schools will recruit mostly from the portal .

Snyder at Kansas State used junior college kids the same way the schools that saw immediate success with the portal this year, such as USC.

Vigen lost over half a dozen kids and he picked up kids via the portal to not miss a beat. Kids today are pretty mobile and like to get out and see different places.
 
Griz2k said:
mthoopsfan said:
Take a look at how the backups played late this season compared to the Indiana guy. Who is the better and more advanced qb?

Hard to answer that. Haven't seen Tuttle play. Stats are not overly impressive in 4 years at Indiana. 57% completion rate. Averaged 5 yards per attempt. 5 TD's to 6 INT's. 50 rush attempts for 79 yards, long of 15. He may very well be better and more advanced. I guess we'll see if he signs. For the Griz offense, I'd like to see someone a bit more mobile, but that's just my opinion.

I looked at his stats also and I am underwhelmed. What makes this guy more attractive than the four QBs we currently have on board? I'd put money on Britt being able to beat these statistics as a full-time QB just based on what I've seen from him to date. Perplexing to me if this transfer comes to pass.
 
mtgriz said:
Griz2k said:
Hard to answer that. Haven't seen Tuttle play. Stats are not overly impressive in 4 years at Indiana. 57% completion rate. Averaged 5 yards per attempt. 5 TD's to 6 INT's. 50 rush attempts for 79 yards, long of 15. He may very well be better and more advanced. I guess we'll see if he signs. For the Griz offense, I'd like to see someone a bit more mobile, but that's just my opinion.

I looked at his stats also and I am underwhelmed. What makes this guy more attractive than the four QBs we currently have on board? I'd put money on Britt being able to beat these statistics as a full-time QB just based on what I've seen from him to date. Perplexing to me if this transfer comes to pass.

You want Caleb Williams or Stetson Bennett...got it.

Dude played in the BIG and was a highly regarded recruit. Britt cannot and will not beat him out if he transfers. They are not the same.
 
mtgriz said:
Griz2k said:
Hard to answer that. Haven't seen Tuttle play. Stats are not overly impressive in 4 years at Indiana. 57% completion rate. Averaged 5 yards per attempt. 5 TD's to 6 INT's. 50 rush attempts for 79 yards, long of 15. He may very well be better and more advanced. I guess we'll see if he signs. For the Griz offense, I'd like to see someone a bit more mobile, but that's just my opinion.

I looked at his stats also and I am underwhelmed. What makes this guy more attractive than the four QBs we currently have on board? I'd put money on Britt being able to beat these statistics as a full-time QB just based on what I've seen from him to date. Perplexing to me if this transfer comes to pass.
His one game this season was pretty good against (at the time) 7-2 Penn State, and he threw 9-12 (75%) for 82 yards and a TD before getting hurt.

It's tough to predict how guys will look, coming from such a jump in competition. If Britt beats him out, that's probably a pretty big accomplishment, and would mean great things for him going forward.
 
mtgriz said:
I looked at his stats also and I am underwhelmed. What makes this guy more attractive than the four QBs we currently have on board? I'd put money on Britt being able to beat these statistics as a full-time QB just based on what I've seen from him to date. Perplexing to me if this transfer comes to pass.

This is about depth and experience for the QB position. Not sure what is perplexing about that, unless you think they have enough depth and experience in the QB room.
 
Hoping Britt stays. No surprise if he leaves. Do wonder why any decent high school qb recruit would entertain committing here?
 
SoldierGriz said:
mtgriz said:
I looked at his stats also and I am underwhelmed. What makes this guy more attractive than the four QBs we currently have on board? I'd put money on Britt being able to beat these statistics as a full-time QB just based on what I've seen from him to date. Perplexing to me if this transfer comes to pass.

You want Caleb Williams or Stetson Bennett...got it.

Dude played in the BIG and was a highly regarded recruit. Britt cannot and will not beat him out if he transfers. They are not the same.

Well said.
 
You always take a talented drop down QB if given the opportunity. The game at the FCS level is usually slower and easier for them. Look at the Cats Chambers and compare his WY numbers to his MSU numbers. Night and day and he wasn’t a 4 star out of HS:

CMP..ATT..CMP..YDS..AVG..TD..INT..RTG
43…..70…..61.4…623….8.9…..8……4…..162.5
90…..177…50.8…1,125..6.4..6…….7…..107.5

Bottom from WY 2021, Top from MSU 2022. And that is just his passing stats and he wasn’t known to be much of a passer.

Here are his rushing stats:

2022 123 carries for 833 (6.8) and 18 TDs
2021 72 carries for 198 (2.8) and 3 TDs

That’s where you really see the difference. It’s like he left the big leagues for pee wee and the game slowed down and was easy for him.
 
HookedonGriz said:
You always take a talented drop down QB if given the opportunity. The game at the FCS level is usually slower and easier for them. Look at the Cats Chambers and compare his WY numbers to his MSU numbers. Night and day and he wasn’t a 4 star out of HS:

CMP..ATT..CMP..YDS..AVG..TD..INT..RTG
43…..70…..61.4…623….8.9…..8……4…..162.5
90…..177…50.8…1,125..6.4..6…….7…..107.5

Bottom from WY 2021, Top from MSU 2022

I would add that on tape you could visibly see how slow the game has been for Chambers. He's the calmest player I've ever watched live on a football field.
 
SoldierGriz said:
mtgriz said:
I looked at his stats also and I am underwhelmed. What makes this guy more attractive than the four QBs we currently have on board? I'd put money on Britt being able to beat these statistics as a full-time QB just based on what I've seen from him to date. Perplexing to me if this transfer comes to pass.

You want Caleb Williams or Stetson Bennett...got it.

Dude played in the BIG and was a highly regarded recruit. Britt cannot and will not beat him out if he transfers. They are not the same.

I honestly wonder sometimes how many people watch P5 games right before/after watching a BSC game. I know upsets have happened, but most of the time it's not even on the same planet. There's no throwing away from Justin Ford, because Fustin Jord is on the other side of the field.
 
I believe every QB in that room has to compete for the starting Job, and the coaching staff will evaluate and decide which one plays and which ones Pick up slivers. "Depth Charts" I personally competed against highly touted JC Transfers and the Montana kids kicked the crap out in them. Remember sometimes (Big Hat No Cattle).. Go Griz
 
Lord Vigo said:
HookedonGriz said:
You always take a talented drop down QB if given the opportunity. The game at the FCS level is usually slower and easier for them. Look at the Cats Chambers and compare his WY numbers to his MSU numbers. Night and day and he wasn’t a 4 star out of HS:

CMP..ATT..CMP..YDS..AVG..TD..INT..RTG
43…..70…..61.4…623….8.9…..8……4…..162.5
90…..177…50.8…1,125..6.4..6…….7…..107.5

Bottom from WY 2021, Top from MSU 2022

I would add that on tape you could visibly see how slow the game has been for Chambers. He's the calmest player I've ever watched live on a football field.

Fantastic point. I haven't watched him as much as Cat fans have, but I'm not surprised by this in the least.
 
Griz#64 said:
I believe every QB in that room has to compete for the starting Job, and the coaching staff will evaluate and decide which one plays and which ones Pick up slivers. "Depth Charts" I personally competed against highly touted JC Transfers and the Montana kids kicked the crap out in them. Remember sometimes (Big Hat No Cattle).. Go Griz

Probably a big difference between a HC transfer and a QB who played for Indiana. I recall the talent of Craig Ochs.
 
Bok_Choi said:
Britt's only meaningful snaps this season came in the NDSU game. It was the only one that was still in doubt when he entered the game, albeit briefly at that. Brown was the backup QB for both the SacState and Weber games. At that point, depth charts were there for a reason and we don't experiment in close games, or something to that effect. Weber held the offense to a buck-forty as you'll recall and much of that wasn't on the QB. The other albatross of the development process on the offensive side of the ball is the O-line, which got manhandled.

I think what continues to get lost in all of this talk of development frustrations are the logistics of it all. A transfer is going consume an inordinate amount of coaching resources because they're coming in cold and are expected to be "the guy" from day one. The backup get 30% of the snaps in normal practices and the remainder of them are catch as catch-can. What makes anyone think that at some point during a season, that you'll have guys on the bench who can come in without an enormous drop-off? All eggs, one basket. And as someone on here has pointed out, that seems to be a losing strategy long-term because guys get injured at some point during the season.

Truth is, Britt, Brown and Abbott should just hit the portal. Brown been demoted in-season for the past two, why would he be a viable #2 going forward? Wait, Hauck is still here, forget that. Britt is a different QB type from what I see in the potential new guy, so they'll be tweaking the offense to promote him not running like an LJ or Britt could. I didn't say he couldn't run, but that wasn't the offense at Indiana. Nobody has seen Abbott in game conditions, but I'd bet he was hopeful of competing, not just holding the clipboard until his class became viable for consideration for playing time. Huot and Ah-Yat can handle to scout teams. Much as any of us would love to believe that there is a "guy" among them, I don't think the coaches believe it, thus you get transfers.

The schizo selection and development process at Montana isn't going to get any better until they actually find a guy with the goods, develop him and a good backup, and push all their chips into the middle of the table. Until then, welcome back to Bobby-ball.

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Spanky2 said:
Do we have a QB in the current QB room capable of leading the Griz to win the FCS national championship?

Would you have considered Andrew Selle or Cole Berquist to be championship caliber QB's prior to us actually going to the championship game with them?
 
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