Program and coaching staff engagement with media & fans

[Copper Griz]

You and the Ind.Outlaw don't know him. You hijacked the thread grzzz started about MSU's media approach and turned it against one coach.

Hauck isn't an asshole. He's a great guy.

He comes across as an a55hole in his pressers, its not the medias fault either. He wants to play this game that he is Bill Belichick but his is still just little Bobby from buttfuk% Montana

How about taking the time to actually get to know the man?

I am not a fizz booster and am not really going to have any reason to interact personally with BH, so what I have is the impression he give in his press interactions. I think that is the point of this thread. People outside of the fizz inner circle are likely to see him this way, people that only know him through his press interactions will think he is an a55hole. This is something that is in his control.

You seem awfully interested in the other teams head coach. Weird. Didn’t the Cats just win a pretty big game and are moving onto the playoffs? Your numerous posts define “little brother” syndrome. I guess years and years of underachieving do that to fans. Pretty pathetic.

 

[The.Real.2506]

You and the Ind.Outlaw don't know him. You hijacked the thread grzzz started about MSU's media approach and turned it against one coach.

He comes across as an a55hole in his pressers, its not the medias fault either. He wants to play this game that he is Bill Belichick but his is still just little Bobby from buttfuk% Montana

How about taking the time to actually get to know the man?

I am not a fizz booster and am not really going to have any reason to interact personally with BH, so what I have is the impression he give in his press interactions. I think that is the point of this thread. People outside of the fizz inner circle are likely to see him this way, people that only know him through his press interactions will think he is an a55hole. This is something that is in his control.

You seem awfully interested in the other teams head coach. Weird. Didn’t the Cats just win a pretty big game and are moving onto the playoffs? Your numerous posts define “little brother” syndrome. I guess years and years of underachieving do that to fans. Pretty pathetic.

I'm a college football junkie, it a bye week for us, and I have a couple extra days off. Lighten up and have an open mind and you might enjoy a little football conversation. :thumb:

 

[ChesterGriz]

You and the Ind.Outlaw don't know him. You hijacked the thread grzzz started about MSU's media approach and turned it against one coach.

He comes across as an a55hole in his pressers, its not the medias fault either. He wants to play this game that he is Bill Belichick but his is still just little Bobby from buttfuk% Montana

How about taking the time to actually get to know the man?

I am not a fizz booster and am not really going to have any reason to interact personally with BH, so what I have is the impression he give in his press interactions. I think that is the point of this thread. People outside of the fizz inner circle are likely to see him this way, people that only know him through his press interactions will think he is an a55hole. This is something that is in his control.

You seem awfully interested in the other teams head coach. Weird. Didn’t the Cats just win a pretty big game and are moving onto the playoffs? Your numerous posts define “little brother” syndrome. I guess years and years of underachieving do that to fans. Pretty pathetic.

I am not a scat booster and am not really going to have any reason to interact personally with 2506, so what I have is the impression he give in his egriz interactions . I think that is the point of this thread. People outside of the scats inner circle are likely to see him this way, people that only know him through his egriz interactions will think he is an a55hole. This is something that is in his control.

 

[The.Real.2506]

You and the Ind.Outlaw don't know him. You hijacked the thread grzzz started about MSU's media approach and turned it against one coach.


How about taking the time to actually get to know the man?

I am not a fizz booster and am not really going to have any reason to interact personally with BH, so what I have is the impression he give in his press interactions. I think that is the point of this thread. People outside of the fizz inner circle are likely to see him this way, people that only know him through his press interactions will think he is an a55hole. This is something that is in his control.

You seem awfully interested in the other teams head coach. Weird. Didn’t the Cats just win a pretty big game and are moving onto the playoffs? Your numerous posts define “little brother” syndrome. I guess years and years of underachieving do that to fans. Pretty pathetic.

I am not a scat booster and am not really going to have any reason to interact personally with 2506, so what I have is the impression he give in his egriz interactions . I think that is the point of this thread. People outside of the scats inner circle are likely to see him this way, people that only know him through his egriz interactions will think he is an a55hole. This is something that is in his control.

Touche :thumb:

 

[PlayerRep]

You and the Ind.Outlaw don't know him. You hijacked the thread grzzz started about MSU's media approach and turned it against one coach.

Hauck isn't an asshole. He's a great guy.

He comes across as an a55hole in his pressers, its not the medias fault either. He wants to play this game that he is Bill Belichick but his is still just little Bobby from buttfuk% Montana

How about taking the time to actually get to know the man?

I am not a fizz booster and am not really going to have any reason to interact personally with BH, so what I have is the impression he give in his press interactions. I think that is the point of this thread. People outside of the fizz inner circle are likely to see him this way, people that only know him through his press interactions will think he is an a55hole. This is something that is in his control.

Nope. You are too biased to comment. Your reputation was never good on egriz, but now more people are aware of your extreme bias. Hauck will never be able to win over people like you who seem to have an obsession with him,
nor does he care to.

I know lots of Cat fans who are fine Hauck. They know he’s good at saying little things to needle Cat fans. Even my family who live in Bozeman and are life long Cat fans know find amusement in Hauck. They can see what he’s doing.

 

[PlayerRep]

You and the Ind.Outlaw don't know him. You hijacked the thread grzzz started about MSU's media approach and turned it against one coach.


How about taking the time to actually get to know the man?

I am not a fizz booster and am not really going to have any reason to interact personally with BH, so what I have is the impression he give in his press interactions. I think that is the point of this thread. People outside of the fizz inner circle are likely to see him this way, people that only know him through his press interactions will think he is an a55hole. This is something that is in his control.

You seem awfully interested in the other teams head coach. Weird. Didn’t the Cats just win a pretty big game and are moving onto the playoffs? Your numerous posts define “little brother” syndrome. I guess years and years of underachieving do that to fans. Pretty pathetic.

I am not a scat booster and am not really going to have any reason to interact personally with 2506, so what I have is the impression he give in his egriz interactions . I think that is the point of this thread. People outside of the scats inner circle are likely to see him this way, people that only know him through his egriz interactions will think he is an a55hole. This is something that is in his control.

If those in the Cat inner circle saw what he says on egriz, they would be embarrassed for him.

 

[MTGRZ]

Dont live in Bozeman but it seems they have more universal support for their program from the community and media. UM has good support but there are fairly sizable portions of the Missoula community and media that are downright hostile toward the football program and Bobby. Could Bobby put on a better show and hide his more aggressive/competitive side which comes out as angry and belittling at times? Sure. Doesnt really bother me that he doesnt. I prefer that people dont fake friendliness while at the same time not being an a** hole. I think he is doing just fine.

This is so true, and one of the greatest hurdles UM as an institution must overcome. msu must have made a deal with the devil to have such a friendly relationship with the BDC. They are lucky the BDC isn't a part of Lee newspapers.

 

[montanaguy]

I agree that Bobby is not generally a great press conference/media guy. Some people do well one-on-one, in-person or in certain settings and not so well in in others, myself included. I have randomly encountered Bobby in public and was astounded that he took the time to converse with an ordinary fan in a very personable, likeable, fun and engaging way. It gives me the sense that he would be a great recruiter in person, despite whatever media issues there are or aren't. I think our football program is in really good hands. People who state that he is an asshole either have an axe to grind or haven't seen or heard him outside of a press conference. Just my two bits.

 

[The.Real.2506]

I agree that Bobby is not generally a great press conference/media guy. Some people do well one-on-one, in-person or in certain settings and not so well in in others, myself included. I have randomly encountered Bobby in public and was astounded that he took the time to converse with an ordinary fan in a very personable, likeable, fun and engaging way. It gives me the sense that he would be a great recruiter in person, despite whatever media issues there are or aren't. I think our football program is in really good hands. People who state that he is an asshole either have an axe to grind or haven't seen or heard him outside of a press conference. Just my two bits.

But that is how the casual fan and the uncommitted see him. The loyal boosters like you may know the real BH, but the rest of the state sees the press BH.

If Football is the front porch of the university, then you have a guy out there flipping everybody off, after you get inside the house you may find out he is a nice guy. How many people are going to go inside the house with someone flipping you off on the porch.

 

[EverettGriz]

I’ve been avoiding this thread due to its length. What I found after finally looking at it is that it’s a fascinating conversation. And if you simply avoid the posts by the village idiots pr and 2506, you can read it in a matter of moments.

And fwiw Mike, you 100% spot-on with your thoughts and comments.

 

[montanaguy]

I agree that Bobby is not generally a great press conference/media guy. Some people do well one-on-one, in-person or in certain settings and not so well in in others, myself included. I have randomly encountered Bobby in public and was astounded that he took the time to converse with an ordinary fan in a very personable, likeable, fun and engaging way. It gives me the sense that he would be a great recruiter in person, despite whatever media issues there are or aren't. I think our football program is in really good hands. People who state that he is an asshole either have an axe to grind or haven't seen or heard him outside of a press conference. Just my two bits.

But that is how the casual fan and the uncommitted see him. The loyal boosters like you may know the real BH, but the rest of the state sees the press BH.

If Football is the front porch of the university, then you have a guy out there flipping everybody off, after you get inside the house you may find out he is a nice guy. How many people are going to go inside the house with someone flipping you off on the porch.

Your point is valid to a degree. I'm not sure that press conferences are the 'front porch' for potential recruits and families. I could be wrong, but I doubt a lot of potential recruits are weighing press conference performance very heavily, if at all. That's part of what I'm getting at. Maybe the most important part to building a winning program is the recruit interface and the subsequent coach/player relationship. And if you are a winning program, a lot of other things fall into place - that's the best PR.

 

[mtgrizrule]

I agree that Bobby is not generally a great press conference/media guy. Some people do well one-on-one, in-person or in certain settings and not so well in in others, myself included. I have randomly encountered Bobby in public and was astounded that he took the time to converse with an ordinary fan in a very personable, likeable, fun and engaging way. It gives me the sense that he would be a great recruiter in person, despite whatever media issues there are or aren't. I think our football program is in really good hands. People who state that he is an asshole either have an axe to grind or haven't seen or heard him outside of a press conference. Just my two bits.

But that is how the casual fan and the uncommitted see him. The loyal boosters like you may know the real BH, but the rest of the state sees the press BH.

If Football is the front porch of the university, then you have a guy out there flipping everybody off, after you get inside the house you may find out he is a nice guy. How many people are going to go inside the house with someone flipping you off on the porch.

Either your perspective/outlook is off, or you are wrong! The 1st time I met BH, he was absolutely cordial, polite, professional, very personable, etc. I do feel, the anti Hauckers, and haters prefer to label the man, than to just outright admit, they don't like him, or hate him.

Have there been coaches here that I didn't like? Hell yeah, but rather than make their job more difficult, I did my best to still support the program, athletes and university. There is no need for me, or our fans to make their jobs more difficult. The crap that is posted on social media, fan boards etc is also detrimental and negative to the program and the university. Do you not realize, the negativity (true or not) can also cost the U of M more students, potential student athletes, etc? Spreading that kind of negativity is every bit as detrimental the coaches are/can be.

 

[The.Real.2506]

I agree that Bobby is not generally a great press conference/media guy. Some people do well one-on-one, in-person or in certain settings and not so well in in others, myself included. I have randomly encountered Bobby in public and was astounded that he took the time to converse with an ordinary fan in a very personable, likeable, fun and engaging way. It gives me the sense that he would be a great recruiter in person, despite whatever media issues there are or aren't. I think our football program is in really good hands. People who state that he is an asshole either have an axe to grind or haven't seen or heard him outside of a press conference. Just my two bits.

But that is how the casual fan and the uncommitted see him. The loyal boosters like you may know the real BH, but the rest of the state sees the press BH.

If Football is the front porch of the university, then you have a guy out there flipping everybody off, after you get inside the house you may find out he is a nice guy. How many people are going to go inside the house with someone flipping you off on the porch.

Your point is valid to a degree. I'm not sure that press conferences are the 'front porch' for potential recruits and families. I could be wrong, but I doubt a lot of potential recruits are weighing press conference performance very heavily, if at all. That's part of what I'm getting at. Maybe the most important part to building a winning program is the recruit interface and the subsequent coach/player relationship. And if you are a winning program, a lot of other things fall into place - that's the best PR.

Recruits are a whole different subject, I will agree with what you are saying about recruits.

The saying is "Football is the front porch of the University" I interpret that to mean normal people not recruits.

Talking about people that don't have a loyalty to either program or university.

 

[The.Real.2506]

I agree that Bobby is not generally a great press conference/media guy. Some people do well one-on-one, in-person or in certain settings and not so well in in others, myself included. I have randomly encountered Bobby in public and was astounded that he took the time to converse with an ordinary fan in a very personable, likeable, fun and engaging way. It gives me the sense that he would be a great recruiter in person, despite whatever media issues there are or aren't. I think our football program is in really good hands. People who state that he is an asshole either have an axe to grind or haven't seen or heard him outside of a press conference. Just my two bits.

But that is how the casual fan and the uncommitted see him. The loyal boosters like you may know the real BH, but the rest of the state sees the press BH.

If Football is the front porch of the university, then you have a guy out there flipping everybody off, after you get inside the house you may find out he is a nice guy. How many people are going to go inside the house with someone flipping you off on the porch.

Either your perspective/outlook is off, or you are wrong! The 1st time I met BH, he was absolutely cordial, polite, professional, very personable, etc. I do feel, the anti Hauckers, and haters prefer to label the man, than to just outright admit, they don't like him, or hate him.

Have there been coaches here that I didn't like? Hell yeah, but rather than make their job more difficult, I did my best to still support the program, athletes and university. There is no need for me, or our fans to make their jobs more difficult. The crap that is posted on social media, fan boards etc is also detrimental and negative to the program and the university. Do you not realize, the negativity (true or not) can also cost the U of M more students, potential student athletes, etc? Spreading that kind of negativity is every bit as detrimental the coaches are/can be.

I think you are missing the point, think about it from the perspective of someone that has no previous loyalties to um or their football program. Why would that person ever reason to have personal contact with BH, they would only know him through what is presented in the press.

 

[PlayerRep]

I agree that Bobby is not generally a great press conference/media guy. Some people do well one-on-one, in-person or in certain settings and not so well in in others, myself included. I have randomly encountered Bobby in public and was astounded that he took the time to converse with an ordinary fan in a very personable, likeable, fun and engaging way. It gives me the sense that he would be a great recruiter in person, despite whatever media issues there are or aren't. I think our football program is in really good hands. People who state that he is an asshole either have an axe to grind or haven't seen or heard him outside of a press conference. Just my two bits.

But that is how the casual fan and the uncommitted see him. The loyal boosters like you may know the real BH, but the rest of the state sees the press BH.

If Football is the front porch of the university, then you have a guy out there flipping everybody off, after you get inside the house you may find out he is a nice guy. How many people are going to go inside the house with someone flipping you off on the porch.

I don't know if football is the front porch, but football is much larger than the football coach. I would guess that virtually no prospective students watch weekend coach press conferences. Bobby does not closing to flipping people off. He gives Cat fans some crap on occasions. Who cares about
Cat fans.

 

[montanaguy]

I agree that Bobby is not generally a great press conference/media guy. Some people do well one-on-one, in-person or in certain settings and not so well in in others, myself included. I have randomly encountered Bobby in public and was astounded that he took the time to converse with an ordinary fan in a very personable, likeable, fun and engaging way. It gives me the sense that he would be a great recruiter in person, despite whatever media issues there are or aren't. I think our football program is in really good hands. People who state that he is an asshole either have an axe to grind or haven't seen or heard him outside of a press conference. Just my two bits.

But that is how the casual fan and the uncommitted see him. The loyal boosters like you may know the real BH, but the rest of the state sees the press BH.

If Football is the front porch of the university, then you have a guy out there flipping everybody off, after you get inside the house you may find out he is a nice guy. How many people are going to go inside the house with someone flipping you off on the porch.

Either your perspective/outlook is off, or you are wrong! The 1st time I met BH, he was absolutely cordial, polite, professional, very personable, etc. I do feel, the anti Hauckers, and haters prefer to label the man, than to just outright admit, they don't like him, or hate him.

Have there been coaches here that I didn't like? Hell yeah, but rather than make their job more difficult, I did my best to still support the program, athletes and university. There is no need for me, or our fans to make their jobs more difficult. The crap that is posted on social media, fan boards etc is also detrimental and negative to the program and the university. Do you not realize, the negativity (true or not) can also cost the U of M more students, potential student athletes, etc? Spreading that kind of negativity is every bit as detrimental the coaches are/can be.

I think you are missing the point, think about it from the perspective of someone that has no previous loyalties to um or their football program. Why would that person ever reason to have personal contact with BH, they would only know him through what is presented in the press.

If you think the recruiting pipeline is dictated by press conferences, I believe you are sadly mistaken.

 

[The.Real.2506]

But that is how the casual fan and the uncommitted see him. The loyal boosters like you may know the real BH, but the rest of the state sees the press BH.

If Football is the front porch of the university, then you have a guy out there flipping everybody off, after you get inside the house you may find out he is a nice guy. How many people are going to go inside the house with someone flipping you off on the porch.

Either your perspective/outlook is off, or you are wrong! The 1st time I met BH, he was absolutely cordial, polite, professional, very personable, etc. I do feel, the anti Hauckers, and haters prefer to label the man, than to just outright admit, they don't like him, or hate him.

Have there been coaches here that I didn't like? Hell yeah, but rather than make their job more difficult, I did my best to still support the program, athletes and university. There is no need for me, or our fans to make their jobs more difficult. The crap that is posted on social media, fan boards etc is also detrimental and negative to the program and the university. Do you not realize, the negativity (true or not) can also cost the U of M more students, potential student athletes, etc? Spreading that kind of negativity is every bit as detrimental the coaches are/can be.

I think you are missing the point, think about it from the perspective of someone that has no previous loyalties to um or their football program. Why would that person ever reason to have personal contact with BH, they would only know him through what is presented in the press.

If you think the recruiting pipeline is dictated by press conferences, I believe you are sadly mistaken.

Where did I say it is, you guys are flatulating this recruiting point which I conceded is a different subject. :thumb:

 

[mtpride41]

I agree that Bobby is not generally a great press conference/media guy. Some people do well one-on-one, in-person or in certain settings and not so well in in others, myself included. I have randomly encountered Bobby in public and was astounded that he took the time to converse with an ordinary fan in a very personable, likeable, fun and engaging way. It gives me the sense that he would be a great recruiter in person, despite whatever media issues there are or aren't. I think our football program is in really good hands. People who state that he is an asshole either have an axe to grind or haven't seen or heard him outside of a press conference. Just my two bits.

But that is how the casual fan and the uncommitted see him. The loyal boosters like you may know the real BH, but the rest of the state sees the press BH.

If Football is the front porch of the university, then you have a guy out there flipping everybody off, after you get inside the house you may find out he is a nice guy. How many people are going to go inside the house with someone flipping you off on the porch.

Your point is valid to a degree. I'm not sure that press conferences are the 'front porch' for potential recruits and families. I could be wrong, but I doubt a lot of potential recruits are weighing press conference performance very heavily, if at all. That's part of what I'm getting at. Maybe the most important part to building a winning program is the recruit interface and the subsequent coach/player relationship. And if you are a winning program, a lot of other things fall into place - that's the best PR.

I don’t think we’re talking about recruits here. That’s a completely different conversation. The thread is titled “Program and coaching staff engagement with media and fans.” The conversation also includes a lot more than Hauck and a lot more than press conferences. If you are brand new to Montana and have no allegiance to either school, based off of UM and MSU marketing and media interactions, which school would you find more appealing? I think that’s question here. Not the media impact on those who are already fans or players the school is recruiting. It’s worth thinking about.

 

[PlayerRep]

I’ve been avoiding this thread due to its length. What I found after finally looking at it is that it’s a fascinating conversation. And if you simply avoid the posts by the village idiots pr and 2506, you can read it in a matter of moments.

And fwiw Mike, you 100% spot-on with your thoughts and comments.

Feel free to point out any post by me in this thread that isn't correct. I will await your response.

How many substantive posts have you made in this thread. I don't know, as I usually skip over your posts because I know there's unlikely to be anything of value in this.

 

[Fahque]

They're different people. I don't expect any coach to kiss the media's ass. God knows, the local rag in Missoula goes to extreme measures to provide negative narratives of the Griz and Hauck. Why should Hauck reward them? I'd be apprehensive too. The journalists are paid to be in their chosen profession. That's part of their job. Why make things worse by bitching about it? I guarantee the older journalists would think of ways to better the relationship rather than write to further hurt things. Christ Sake, this politically correct world needs to toughen up and loosen up!!! How about taking the time to actually get to know the man?

This is rich. Whining about bad press in one sentence and telling them to toughen up in another... Hauck is an ahole, there is no getting around it, stop being such a snowflake, he brings it on himself.

Hauck isn't an asshole. He's a great guy.

He comes across as an a55hole in his pressers, its not the medias fault either. He wants to play this game that he is Bill Belichick but his is still just little Bobby from buttfuk% Montana

Like you do with all of your posts