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Program and coaching staff engagement with media & fans

Proud Griz Man said:
great post and it 100% describes the Bobby Hauck that I know.
2506 and other cat trolls don't listen effectively, as he gave MSU sufficient credit for their win. Do they go back and nit-pick the post-game comments of SEMO and BSC coaches who lost to MSU and go to their message boards with gripes? No.

mtgrizrule said:
I don't get how fans think Hauck should be friendlier, more cordial, etc.
Coach Hauck has always been friendly with me.
I guess, it depends on the type of a person someone is, when communicating with Hauck.

Tell you what, when Hauck returned, at his 1st Ronan GSA Golf Tournament, he not only remembered me, but addressed me by name, gave me a solid hand shake, and told me he was glad to see me there. He was sincere in his mannerisms and talk. I am just a fan. I am not a big donor, don't have any pull, etc. That experience really impressed me. Maybe, if people accepted and respected him for who he really is, they'd have a better experience with him.

As for the media, a coach isn't required to be media friendly. I believe, Hauck has improved in that aspect, this time around. Yet, the local rag (Missoulian) treats him and the program like crap still. Hauck has definitely been the professional of the 2. He also seems to have a solid relationship with the Kaimin now.

I 'd rather have a coach, boss, etc be himself/herself than be fake to people. Hauck has my complete support.

I think you're somewhat missing the point of the initial post. Obviously Cat fans aren't giving Bobby the benefit of the doubt at any point. Just as the "Choach/Chode" crowd isn't going to give Jeff Choate the benefit of the doubt. That said, I think the comments in the initial post focus on media interaction/availability/candidness, etc. as well as overall perception in advancing the UM brand as a whole.

If I were a sports journalist, I think it would be extremely difficult to cover UM football because bobby doesn't give you anything...I think Colter would 2nd that emotion. That doesn't make him a bad coach or a bad guy, he's just cut from the same cloth as Saban and Belichick with regard to media interaction.

Obviously it's Bobby's main job to coach and win games. He's not paid give great stories to journalists or to be a one man PR team, that said with the state of UM admissions and the overall feelings/perceptions around the state, Bobby isn't doing anything in the media to help with the overall success of UM as an institution....which could be argued whether or not that's part of his responsibility as a head coach.

Mike and Brint, feel free to jump in if I'm misinterpreting.
 
wbtfg said:
Proud Griz Man said:
great post and it 100% describes the Bobby Hauck that I know.
2506 and other cat trolls don't listen effectively, as he gave MSU sufficient credit for their win. Do they go back and nit-pick the post-game comments of SEMO and BSC coaches who lost to MSU and go to their message boards with gripes? No.

mtgrizrule said:
I don't get how fans think Hauck should be friendlier, more cordial, etc.
Coach Hauck has always been friendly with me.
I guess, it depends on the type of a person someone is, when communicating with Hauck.

Tell you what, when Hauck returned, at his 1st Ronan GSA Golf Tournament, he not only remembered me, but addressed me by name, gave me a solid hand shake, and told me he was glad to see me there. He was sincere in his mannerisms and talk. I am just a fan. I am not a big donor, don't have any pull, etc. That experience really impressed me. Maybe, if people accepted and respected him for who he really is, they'd have a better experience with him.

As for the media, a coach isn't required to be media friendly. I believe, Hauck has improved in that aspect, this time around. Yet, the local rag (Missoulian) treats him and the program like crap still. Hauck has definitely been the professional of the 2. He also seems to have a solid relationship with the Kaimin now.

I 'd rather have a coach, boss, etc be himself/herself than be fake to people. Hauck has my complete support.

I think you're somewhat missing the point of the initial post. Obviously Cat fans aren't giving Bobby the benefit of the doubt at any point. Just as the "Choach/Chode" crowd isn't going to give Jeff Choate the benefit of the doubt. That said, I think the comments in the initial post focus on media interaction/availability/candidness, etc. as well as overall perception in advancing the UM brand as a whole.

If I were a sports journalist, I think it would be extremely difficult to cover UM football because bobby doesn't give you anything...I think Colter would 2nd that emotion. That doesn't make him a bad coach or a bad guy, he's just cut from the same cloth as Saban and Belichick with regard to media interaction.

Obviously it's Bobby's main job to coach and win games. He's not paid give great stories to journalists or to be a one man PR team, that said with the state of UM admissions and the overall feelings/perceptions around the state, Bobby isn't doing anything in the media to help with the overall success of UM as an institution....which could be argued whether or not that's part of his responsibility as a head coach.

Mike and Brint, feel free to jump in if I'm misinterpreting.

The increase in success of the football team, and how he runs his team, are what will help and are helping UM and UM admissions. He is also beneficial for donations, because some of UM's larger donors and potential donors like Bobby or are good friends with him.

I agree that most Cat fans who are actively involved probably won't give Hauck much benefit of the doubt. That's fine. I don't even care if they trash him or unfairly trash him. I doubt that he cares either. When I see Cat fans trashing or unfairly trashing him, my reaction is that those people are basically stupid. But that's okay, it's a free country, and they have the right to be stupid.

By the way, there was nothing stupid in your recent post. It was a good post, which advances the discussion.
 
wbtfg said:
Proud Griz Man said:
great post and it 100% describes the Bobby Hauck that I know.
2506 and other cat trolls don't listen effectively, as he gave MSU sufficient credit for their win. Do they go back and nit-pick the post-game comments of SEMO and BSC coaches who lost to MSU and go to their message boards with gripes? No.

mtgrizrule said:
I don't get how fans think Hauck should be friendlier, more cordial, etc.
Coach Hauck has always been friendly with me.
I guess, it depends on the type of a person someone is, when communicating with Hauck.

Tell you what, when Hauck returned, at his 1st Ronan GSA Golf Tournament, he not only remembered me, but addressed me by name, gave me a solid hand shake, and told me he was glad to see me there. He was sincere in his mannerisms and talk. I am just a fan. I am not a big donor, don't have any pull, etc. That experience really impressed me. Maybe, if people accepted and respected him for who he really is, they'd have a better experience with him.

As for the media, a coach isn't required to be media friendly. I believe, Hauck has improved in that aspect, this time around. Yet, the local rag (Missoulian) treats him and the program like crap still. Hauck has definitely been the professional of the 2. He also seems to have a solid relationship with the Kaimin now.

I 'd rather have a coach, boss, etc be himself/herself than be fake to people. Hauck has my complete support.

I think you're somewhat missing the point of the initial post. Obviously Cat fans aren't giving Bobby the benefit of the doubt at any point. Just as the "Choach/Chode" crowd isn't going to give Jeff Choate the benefit of the doubt. That said, I think the comments in the initial post focus on media interaction/availability/candidness, etc. as well as overall perception in advancing the UM brand as a whole.

If I were a sports journalist, I think it would be extremely difficult to cover UM football because bobby doesn't give you anything...I think Colter would 2nd that emotion. That doesn't make him a bad coach or a bad guy, he's just cut from the same cloth as Saban and Belichick with regard to media interaction.

Obviously it's Bobby's main job to coach and win games. He's not paid give great stories to journalists or to be a one man PR team, that said with the state of UM admissions and the overall feelings/perceptions around the state, Bobby isn't doing anything in the media to help with the overall success of UM as an institution....which could be argued whether or not that's part of his responsibility as a head coach.

Mike and Brint, feel free to jump in if I'm misinterpreting.

The media should respect that Hauck plays things close to the vest. The less information out there, the better. It's a strategic advantage. The same can be said about journalists. How many journalists disclose the important information to the public, before a big article, book, story, etc? If they do, it lessens the number readers to their finished product. Seriously, how much common sense does it take to realize that?
 
mtgrizrule said:
wbtfg said:
Proud Griz Man said:
great post and it 100% describes the Bobby Hauck that I know.
2506 and other cat trolls don't listen effectively, as he gave MSU sufficient credit for their win. Do they go back and nit-pick the post-game comments of SEMO and BSC coaches who lost to MSU and go to their message boards with gripes? No.

mtgrizrule said:
I don't get how fans think Hauck should be friendlier, more cordial, etc.
Coach Hauck has always been friendly with me.
I guess, it depends on the type of a person someone is, when communicating with Hauck.

Tell you what, when Hauck returned, at his 1st Ronan GSA Golf Tournament, he not only remembered me, but addressed me by name, gave me a solid hand shake, and told me he was glad to see me there. He was sincere in his mannerisms and talk. I am just a fan. I am not a big donor, don't have any pull, etc. That experience really impressed me. Maybe, if people accepted and respected him for who he really is, they'd have a better experience with him.

As for the media, a coach isn't required to be media friendly. I believe, Hauck has improved in that aspect, this time around. Yet, the local rag (Missoulian) treats him and the program like crap still. Hauck has definitely been the professional of the 2. He also seems to have a solid relationship with the Kaimin now.

I 'd rather have a coach, boss, etc be himself/herself than be fake to people. Hauck has my complete support.

I think you're somewhat missing the point of the initial post. Obviously Cat fans aren't giving Bobby the benefit of the doubt at any point. Just as the "Choach/Chode" crowd isn't going to give Jeff Choate the benefit of the doubt. That said, I think the comments in the initial post focus on media interaction/availability/candidness, etc. as well as overall perception in advancing the UM brand as a whole.

If I were a sports journalist, I think it would be extremely difficult to cover UM football because bobby doesn't give you anything...I think Colter would 2nd that emotion. That doesn't make him a bad coach or a bad guy, he's just cut from the same cloth as Saban and Belichick with regard to media interaction.

Obviously it's Bobby's main job to coach and win games. He's not paid give great stories to journalists or to be a one man PR team, that said with the state of UM admissions and the overall feelings/perceptions around the state, Bobby isn't doing anything in the media to help with the overall success of UM as an institution....which could be argued whether or not that's part of his responsibility as a head coach.

Mike and Brint, feel free to jump in if I'm misinterpreting.

The media should respect that Hauck plays things close to the vest. The less information out there, the better. It's a strategic advantage. The same can be said about journalists. How many journalists disclose the important information to the public, before a big article, book, story, etc? If they do, it lessens the number readers to their finished product. Seriously, how much common sense does it take to realize that?
And yet he was complaining that he didn't know TA was not going to play :thumb:

Choate still talked to the media in a reasonable manner, yet didn't give away his secrets

You don't have to be an asshole to hold thins close to the vest
 
This post of 2506 is a good example of a stupid post and his being uninformed and stupid:

"In media appearances he comes across as an arrogant, narcissistic snide prick. He appears overbearing and controlling on his players."

First, how many media appearances has 2506 ever watched or attended? How many times has he met or talked to Hauck?

Narcissistic. That is just plain dumb. Hauck is not that in any respect. People like 2506 don't even know what that is. They just throw the term around. I'm okay with snide, prick and maybe arrogant, in terms of coming across to people who don't know or don't like him.

However, in person with people like GrizRule and me, and at events like QB Club, Bobby is very nice and engaging. Big smile. Talkative. Laughing. Joking. Bobby has a lot of good friends. The ones I know are all great guys too. Bobby has a lot of women, like my wife, who really like him too.

I can see how some of the media wouldn't like him, but some of those people ask stupid questions or write stupid things about the Griz, or have violated what Hauck thinks the policy is for reporting things.

As for the Cats, I assume Hauck intentionally tries to get their goats, and say things that rankle them. It's a big rivalry. He grew up on the Griz side of it. And, I can't imagine that Hauck cares about what partisan Cat fans think of him. He probably likes that some are constantly irritated by him.
 
mtgrizrule said:
wbtfg said:
Proud Griz Man said:
great post and it 100% describes the Bobby Hauck that I know.
2506 and other cat trolls don't listen effectively, as he gave MSU sufficient credit for their win. Do they go back and nit-pick the post-game comments of SEMO and BSC coaches who lost to MSU and go to their message boards with gripes? No.

mtgrizrule said:
I don't get how fans think Hauck should be friendlier, more cordial, etc.
Coach Hauck has always been friendly with me.
I guess, it depends on the type of a person someone is, when communicating with Hauck.

Tell you what, when Hauck returned, at his 1st Ronan GSA Golf Tournament, he not only remembered me, but addressed me by name, gave me a solid hand shake, and told me he was glad to see me there. He was sincere in his mannerisms and talk. I am just a fan. I am not a big donor, don't have any pull, etc. That experience really impressed me. Maybe, if people accepted and respected him for who he really is, they'd have a better experience with him.

As for the media, a coach isn't required to be media friendly. I believe, Hauck has improved in that aspect, this time around. Yet, the local rag (Missoulian) treats him and the program like crap still. Hauck has definitely been the professional of the 2. He also seems to have a solid relationship with the Kaimin now.

I 'd rather have a coach, boss, etc be himself/herself than be fake to people. Hauck has my complete support.

I think you're somewhat missing the point of the initial post. Obviously Cat fans aren't giving Bobby the benefit of the doubt at any point. Just as the "Choach/Chode" crowd isn't going to give Jeff Choate the benefit of the doubt. That said, I think the comments in the initial post focus on media interaction/availability/candidness, etc. as well as overall perception in advancing the UM brand as a whole.

If I were a sports journalist, I think it would be extremely difficult to cover UM football because bobby doesn't give you anything...I think Colter would 2nd that emotion. That doesn't make him a bad coach or a bad guy, he's just cut from the same cloth as Saban and Belichick with regard to media interaction.

Obviously it's Bobby's main job to coach and win games. He's not paid give great stories to journalists or to be a one man PR team, that said with the state of UM admissions and the overall feelings/perceptions around the state, Bobby isn't doing anything in the media to help with the overall success of UM as an institution....which could be argued whether or not that's part of his responsibility as a head coach.

Mike and Brint, feel free to jump in if I'm misinterpreting.

The media should respect that Hauck plays things close to the vest. The less information out there, the better. It's a strategic advantage. The same can be said about journalists. How many journalists disclose the important information to the public, before a big article, book, story, etc? If they do, it lessens the number readers to their finished product. Seriously, how much common sense does it take to realize that?

Choate talks a lot to the media. Makes himself readily available, tells stories, and give out pertinent information. I think that he does all of that without giving up a strategic advantage. I don't think it's a black and white topic, there's definitely a spectrum there. Choate and Hauck are just on opposite ends of that spectrum.
 
The.Real.2506 said:
mtgrizrule said:
wbtfg said:
Proud Griz Man said:
great post and it 100% describes the Bobby Hauck that I know.
2506 and other cat trolls don't listen effectively, as he gave MSU sufficient credit for their win. Do they go back and nit-pick the post-game comments of SEMO and BSC coaches who lost to MSU and go to their message boards with gripes? No.

I think you're somewhat missing the point of the initial post. Obviously Cat fans aren't giving Bobby the benefit of the doubt at any point. Just as the "Choach/Chode" crowd isn't going to give Jeff Choate the benefit of the doubt. That said, I think the comments in the initial post focus on media interaction/availability/candidness, etc. as well as overall perception in advancing the UM brand as a whole.

If I were a sports journalist, I think it would be extremely difficult to cover UM football because bobby doesn't give you anything...I think Colter would 2nd that emotion. That doesn't make him a bad coach or a bad guy, he's just cut from the same cloth as Saban and Belichick with regard to media interaction.

Obviously it's Bobby's main job to coach and win games. He's not paid give great stories to journalists or to be a one man PR team, that said with the state of UM admissions and the overall feelings/perceptions around the state, Bobby isn't doing anything in the media to help with the overall success of UM as an institution....which could be argued whether or not that's part of his responsibility as a head coach.

Mike and Brint, feel free to jump in if I'm misinterpreting.

The media should respect that Hauck plays things close to the vest. The less information out there, the better. It's a strategic advantage. The same can be said about journalists. How many journalists disclose the important information to the public, before a big article, book, story, etc? If they do, it lessens the number readers to their finished product. Seriously, how much common sense does it take to realize that?
And yet he was complaining that he didn't know TA was not going to play :thumb:

Choate still talked to the media in a reasonable manner, yet didn't give away his secrets

You don't have to be an asshole to hold thins close to the vest

Here's yet another example of you being stupid. Hauck didn't "complain" about it. He said that UM wasted a bunch of practice time on preparing to defend TA. He said you could take it as an excuse, but it was true. What's wrong with that? Why would anyone care about his having said that? It shows me that you are so biased you can't see straight, and your comment is stupid.

Hauck isn't an asshole. The fact that you think he's an asshole tells me, again, that you are biased that it causes you to say stupid things.

I am happy to continue this conversation with you. Serve up some more stupid comments and cream puffs, and I will hit them out of the ball park. I'm in Scottsdale now; I can see the ballpark.
 
PlayerRep said:
This post of 2506 is a good example of a stupid post and his being uninformed and stupid:

"In media appearances he comes across as an arrogant, narcissistic snide prick. He appears overbearing and controlling on his players."

First, how many media appearances has 2506 ever watched or attended? How many times has he met or talked to Hauck?

Narcissistic. That is just plain dumb. Hauck is not that in any respect. People like 2506 don't even know what that is. They just throw the term around. I'm okay with snide, prick and maybe arrogant, in terms of coming across to people who don't know or don't like him.

However, in person with people like GrizRule and me, and at events like QB Club, Bobby is very nice and engaging. Big smile. Talkative. Laughing. Joking. Bobby has a lot of good friends. The ones I know are all great guys too. Bobby has a lot of women, like my wife, who really like him too.

I can see how some of the media wouldn't like him, but some of those people ask stupid questions or write stupid things about the Griz, or have violated what Hauck thinks the policy is for reporting things.

As for the Cats, I assume Hauck intentionally tries to get their goats, and say things that rankle them. It's a big rivalry. He grew up on the Griz side of it. And, I can't imagine that Hauck cares about what partisan Cat fans think of him. He probably likes that some are constantly irritated by him.

you don't comprehend simple things very well do ya :thumb:

the weekly pressers are posted on line, I usually watch bobbys too, I sometimes catch the post game pressers too. I have never met or talked to him in person. If you had read and comprehended my post you would understand that, but that is a bit of a stretch to expect I realize. :thumb:

Go ahead call me names if you don't have a logical argument :)
 
wbtfg said:
mtgrizrule said:
wbtfg said:
Proud Griz Man said:
great post and it 100% describes the Bobby Hauck that I know.
2506 and other cat trolls don't listen effectively, as he gave MSU sufficient credit for their win. Do they go back and nit-pick the post-game comments of SEMO and BSC coaches who lost to MSU and go to their message boards with gripes? No.

I think you're somewhat missing the point of the initial post. Obviously Cat fans aren't giving Bobby the benefit of the doubt at any point. Just as the "Choach/Chode" crowd isn't going to give Jeff Choate the benefit of the doubt. That said, I think the comments in the initial post focus on media interaction/availability/candidness, etc. as well as overall perception in advancing the UM brand as a whole.

If I were a sports journalist, I think it would be extremely difficult to cover UM football because bobby doesn't give you anything...I think Colter would 2nd that emotion. That doesn't make him a bad coach or a bad guy, he's just cut from the same cloth as Saban and Belichick with regard to media interaction.

Obviously it's Bobby's main job to coach and win games. He's not paid give great stories to journalists or to be a one man PR team, that said with the state of UM admissions and the overall feelings/perceptions around the state, Bobby isn't doing anything in the media to help with the overall success of UM as an institution....which could be argued whether or not that's part of his responsibility as a head coach.

Mike and Brint, feel free to jump in if I'm misinterpreting.

The media should respect that Hauck plays things close to the vest. The less information out there, the better. It's a strategic advantage. The same can be said about journalists. How many journalists disclose the important information to the public, before a big article, book, story, etc? If they do, it lessens the number readers to their finished product. Seriously, how much common sense does it take to realize that?

Choate talks a lot to the media. Makes himself readily available, tells stories, and give out pertinent information. I think that he does all of that without giving up a strategic advantage. I don't think it's a black and white topic, there's definitely a spectrum there. Choate and Hauck are just on opposite ends of that spectrum.

You think Hauck may not talk to media as much because he's afraid of giving up some strategic advantage?

I hardly ever see signs of Choate talking to the media, by the way.

I've met Choate and liked him. TG introduced us. As I have said before, I've had Choate's wife and kids over to my lake house, while the coaches golfed. Choate's wife is super nice, and used to teach school in Missoula.
 
wbtfg said:
mtgrizrule said:
wbtfg said:
Proud Griz Man said:
great post and it 100% describes the Bobby Hauck that I know.
2506 and other cat trolls don't listen effectively, as he gave MSU sufficient credit for their win. Do they go back and nit-pick the post-game comments of SEMO and BSC coaches who lost to MSU and go to their message boards with gripes? No.

I think you're somewhat missing the point of the initial post. Obviously Cat fans aren't giving Bobby the benefit of the doubt at any point. Just as the "Choach/Chode" crowd isn't going to give Jeff Choate the benefit of the doubt. That said, I think the comments in the initial post focus on media interaction/availability/candidness, etc. as well as overall perception in advancing the UM brand as a whole.

If I were a sports journalist, I think it would be extremely difficult to cover UM football because bobby doesn't give you anything...I think Colter would 2nd that emotion. That doesn't make him a bad coach or a bad guy, he's just cut from the same cloth as Saban and Belichick with regard to media interaction.

Obviously it's Bobby's main job to coach and win games. He's not paid give great stories to journalists or to be a one man PR team, that said with the state of UM admissions and the overall feelings/perceptions around the state, Bobby isn't doing anything in the media to help with the overall success of UM as an institution....which could be argued whether or not that's part of his responsibility as a head coach.

Mike and Brint, feel free to jump in if I'm misinterpreting.

The media should respect that Hauck plays things close to the vest. The less information out there, the better. It's a strategic advantage. The same can be said about journalists. How many journalists disclose the important information to the public, before a big article, book, story, etc? If they do, it lessens the number readers to their finished product. Seriously, how much common sense does it take to realize that?

Choate talks a lot to the media. Makes himself readily available, tells stories, and give out pertinent information. I think that he does all of that without giving up a strategic advantage. I don't think it's a black and white topic, there's definitely a spectrum there. Choate and Hauck are just on opposite ends of that spectrum.

They're different people. I don't expect any coach to kiss the media's ass. God knows, the local rag in Missoula goes to extreme measures to provide negative narratives of the Griz and Hauck. Why should Hauck reward them? I'd be apprehensive too. The journalists are paid to be in their chosen profession. That's part of their job. Why make things worse by bitching about it? I guarantee the older journalists would think of ways to better the relationship rather than write to further hurt things. Christ Sake, this politically correct world needs to toughen up and loosen up!!! How about taking the time to actually get to know the man?
 
The.Real.2506 said:
PlayerRep said:
This post of 2506 is a good example of a stupid post and his being uninformed and stupid:

"In media appearances he comes across as an arrogant, narcissistic snide prick. He appears overbearing and controlling on his players."

First, how many media appearances has 2506 ever watched or attended? How many times has he met or talked to Hauck?

Narcissistic. That is just plain dumb. Hauck is not that in any respect. People like 2506 don't even know what that is. They just throw the term around. I'm okay with snide, prick and maybe arrogant, in terms of coming across to people who don't know or don't like him.

However, in person with people like GrizRule and me, and at events like QB Club, Bobby is very nice and engaging. Big smile. Talkative. Laughing. Joking. Bobby has a lot of good friends. The ones I know are all great guys too. Bobby has a lot of women, like my wife, who really like him too.

I can see how some of the media wouldn't like him, but some of those people ask stupid questions or write stupid things about the Griz, or have violated what Hauck thinks the policy is for reporting things.

As for the Cats, I assume Hauck intentionally tries to get their goats, and say things that rankle them. It's a big rivalry. He grew up on the Griz side of it. And, I can't imagine that Hauck cares about what partisan Cat fans think of him. He probably likes that some are constantly irritated by him.

you don't comprehend simple things very well do ya :thumb:

the weekly pressers are posted on line, I usually watch bobbys too, I sometimes catch the post game pressers too. I have never met or talked to him in person. If you had read and comprehended my post you would understand that, but that is a bit of a stretch to expect I realize. :thumb:

Go ahead call me names if you don't have a logical argument :)

My level of comprehension has always been very high. That helped me a lot in life.

Hauck deals a lot more with the media than just weekly pressers. Personally, I think a fan who goes out of his way to watch of the pressers of opposing coaches must have a screw loose, or is lacking something in his life.

I have lots of arguments and support what I say. But you are way out there, and I truly believe much of what you post is stupid. People like you who can't support what they say, have comebacks like the one you just tried to use. And, you say Hauck is all these things, and you've never met him, and then when I come back at you to say what you said is stupid, you start whining.
 
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How many journalists disclose the important information to the public, before a big article, book, story, etc? If they do, it lessens the number readers to their finished product. Seriously, how much common sense does it take to realize that?
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John Bolton? You follow the Griz? Way cool.
 
The.Real.2506, stop wasting time with PlayerRep. He is even a bigger arrogant A-hole with a narcissistic personality disorder in person.
 
MONDAK said:
The.Real.2506, stop wasting time with PlayerRep. He is even a bigger arrogant A-hole with a narcissistic personality disorder in person.

So another keyboard guy who likes to talk to big and then hide? Sure, you have a lot of credibility.
 
The.Real.2506 said:
tnt said:
There has never been a time when the Missoula or university community has been supportive of athletics. It was more prevalent years ago. The students then who pushed to defund athletics are now editors, publishers communities leaders etc. Its not much different in liberal arts school or community.

These things are cyclical. In the late mid to late 80's MSU athletics had very little support from the media, community or the administration. They let the CNFR move away and decimated all athletic programs. It takes time to restore those bonds. In the early 90's I returned to Bozeman for a visit and could not find a Cat logo downtown. I think communities and administration understands the value of Athletics to a university now. I doubt if media relations will improve if the HC acts like a snide prick to the media though.
I agree that an historical view embraces events over the long term, and the support of both universities/communities should be viewed with this in mind. That being said, the self-appointed role of the media has been much different at UM than at MSU. In the broader context, how BH interacts with the media seems more like current events than indicative of a larger historical narrative.

And FTC. See you again in Frisco.
 
PlayerRep said:
The.Real.2506 said:
PlayerRep said:
This post of 2506 is a good example of a stupid post and his being uninformed and stupid:

"In media appearances he comes across as an arrogant, narcissistic snide prick. He appears overbearing and controlling on his players."

First, how many media appearances has 2506 ever watched or attended? How many times has he met or talked to Hauck?

Narcissistic. That is just plain dumb. Hauck is not that in any respect. People like 2506 don't even know what that is. They just throw the term around. I'm okay with snide, prick and maybe arrogant, in terms of coming across to people who don't know or don't like him.

However, in person with people like GrizRule and me, and at events like QB Club, Bobby is very nice and engaging. Big smile. Talkative. Laughing. Joking. Bobby has a lot of good friends. The ones I know are all great guys too. Bobby has a lot of women, like my wife, who really like him too.

I can see how some of the media wouldn't like him, but some of those people ask stupid questions or write stupid things about the Griz, or have violated what Hauck thinks the policy is for reporting things.

As for the Cats, I assume Hauck intentionally tries to get their goats, and say things that rankle them. It's a big rivalry. He grew up on the Griz side of it. And, I can't imagine that Hauck cares about what partisan Cat fans think of him. He probably likes that some are constantly irritated by him.

you don't comprehend simple things very well do ya :thumb:

the weekly pressers are posted on line, I usually watch bobbys too, I sometimes catch the post game pressers too. I have never met or talked to him in person. If you had read and comprehended my post you would understand that, but that is a bit of a stretch to expect I realize. :thumb:

Go ahead call me names if you don't have a logical argument :)

My level of comprehension has always been very high. That helped me a lot in life.

Hauck deals a lot more with the media than just weekly pressers. Personally, I think a fan who goes out of his way to watch of the pressers of opposing coaches must have a screw loose, or is lacking something in his life.

I have lots of arguments and support what I say. But you are way out there, and I truly believe much of what you post is stupid. People like you who can't support what they say, have comebacks like the one you just tried to use. And, you say Hauck is all these things, and you've never met him, and then when I come back at you to say what you said is stupid, you start whining.
I always try to find out as much as I can about the opponent, you think that is weird?

Maybe that is why you come across as someone that doesn't know what they are talking about most of the time. :thumb:
 
Honest question. You are new to Montana and know little to nothing about the Cat and Griz programs. You sit down over the course of several weeks and watch multiple press conferences and interviews of both head coaches. What do you think your initial reaction would be about both coaches?
 
PlayerRep said:
MONDAK said:
The.Real.2506, stop wasting time with PlayerRep. He is even a bigger arrogant A-hole with a narcissistic personality disorder in person.

So another keyboard guy who likes to talk to big and then hide? Sure, you have a lot of credibility.

Hide? Online? By post count credibility, ya got me. LOL. If only you knew. Start with your sister Idelle. Want more names? My opinion is far from exclusive. Spent plenty of time with you in Van's/Brad's Griz box. Shut it.

And it's too (as in "too big").
 
I'd like to know exactly how the Missoulian "treats Bobby and the Griz team" like crap. I don't see that at all. Jesus, Bill Speltz kisses Bobby's posterior on a weekly basis, and the team still gets great coverage in every Sunday edition, as well as in the days leading up to Saturday's game.

So they get a few letters to the editor. Big deal. What college football team or coach doesn't? Am I missing something?
 
grizindabox said:
Honest question. You are new to Montana and know little to nothing about the Cat and Griz programs. You sit down over the course of several weeks and watch multiple press conferences and interviews of both head coaches. What do you think your initial reaction would be about both coaches?

This.
 
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