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Program and coaching staff engagement with media & fans

Proud Griz Man said:
I have not missed the point. See the last quote excerpted from 2506 ( presented in beautiful bobcat blue font to give you even more positive reinforcement compliments after the big win last saturday).


Proud Griz Man said:
great post and it 100% describes the Bobby Hauck that I know.
2506 and other cat trolls don't listen effectively, as he gave MSU sufficient credit for their win. Do they go back and nit-pick the post-game comments of SEMO and BSC coaches who lost to MSU and go to their message boards with gripes? No. <-- Bobby Hauck obsession ??

I think you're somewhat missing the point of the initial post. Obviously Cat fans aren't giving Bobby the benefit of the doubt at any point. Just as the "Choach/Chode" crowd isn't going to give Jeff Choate the benefit of the doubt. That said, I think the comments in the initial post focus on media interaction/availability/candidness, etc. as well as overall perception in advancing the UM brand as a whole.

If I were a sports journalist, I think it would be extremely difficult to cover UM football because bobby doesn't give you anything...I think Colter would 2nd that emotion.

Mike and Brint, feel free to jump in if I'm misinterpreting.

In media appearances he comes across as an arrogant, narcissistic snide prick. He appears overbearing and controlling on his players. If you don't feel comfortable letting a Senior QB talk to the press without your supervision I think something has gone wrong. You don't have to give away your gameplan to show some respect to the opponent by acknowledging their playmakers and coaches abilities. I highly doubt if coaches watch each others press conferences or would take any stock in them any way. Short condescending answers to the press do nothing to further your program or to advance your cause. The point is that many of us on this side only base our opinion on his public media appearances, I know many griz fans who admit that Bobby is an asshole, but he wins. IMO Bobby's media appearances are a PR disaster for your program.

As I said before, my impressions of BH are not just from this weeks pressers, Its based on may public media events that I have seen, the majority that don't even involve the Cats
 
MONDAK said:
PlayerRep said:
MONDAK said:
PlayerRep said:
So another keyboard guy who likes to talk to big and then hide? Sure, you have a lot of credibility.

Hide? Online? By post count credibility, ya got me. LOL. If only you knew. Start with your sister Idelle. Want more names? My opinion is far from exclusive. Spent plenty of time with you in Van's/Brad's Griz box. Shut it.

And it's too (as in "too big").

There is and was no such thing as a Van's box. Van's never had a box lease at Griz stadium.

Were you friends with the Van's guy who's now in prison? Assume so.

Just talked to my sister. She said you are an asshole and a liar. Ha.

Yes, I want more names. Also, I want you to tell us more about the "Van's" box. What went on at games? Who was there? Who ran the box? What did I do that supports what you're saying? I want to test you a bit. While you may come have into the box, along with three or four thousand other people over the years, I have my doubts about you.

Edit: my sister just called me. Said it-you are bizarre. Said it was probably the idiot who got a bunch of degrees in North Dakota.

Ha. Ok. Even John said you are a dick. Behind your back ... like the others. One armed Brad says the same. Please tell us all more how great you are. Dirt? Wanna push me more?

Karma

Just not true. I am very close to my sister, and my nephew John. Also, to Brad. I communicate with them all the time. Was just with Brad and my brother in NYC at the game in Yankee stadium. You are a big liar. And we've figured out who you are, I assume you are the wierdo with a bunch of North Dak degrees. now that. I think it's odd, and really show a person's lack of character, when they come on the internet and just plain lie. Now, when I see one of your post, I may just point out that you're a liar and very dishonest.
 
Colter_Nuanez56 said:
cmtgrizzly said:
Honestly I think all of these comments are biased. The opinion of one producer who knows nothing about the state means nothing. The people he spoke to that lead him to his conclusion may be biased toward MSU. He could have just as easily been in contact with people that would have said otherwise. Shoot just ask him who people he spoke to said would win every game and we wont even need to play them anymore because he will be able to tell us who will win every game. :D

People didnt like Bobby from before because he won alot and was not shy about doing so. I dont think most on here are being objective. I think he has been pretty good in the pressers. Is he Joe Glenn? No. Neither is Choate. Pretty sure he (Choate) has had some past gaffes as well.

I think people are also piling on in light if the recent Cat victory. You (Cats) all were not happy with Choate after the UND game and not really after the CP game either. Pretty sure he threw some silly fits on TV that didnt represent MSU all that favorably in a recent game. Wouldnt really bother me as he is just trying to do his job in an emotional environment.

Just wait and see how things go as Bobby builds the program. As for now I think everyone can relax and let him work. He hasnt done anything to warrant all of this negative perspective this go around.

The point is he thought Montana State was going to win because he knew much more about them, which is a microcosmic example of how everyone who is not from Montana and has no previous knowledge of UM or MSU knows way more about Montana State in every way because of communication and marketing. This is so much bigger than 10 minute press conferences by a football coach. The fact of the matter is that people who don't have previous knowledge of either in-state school have an avenue and entry point to learn much more about Montana State than Montana. And that was not the case whatsoever 10-15 years ago.

People blame scandal and Krakauer and the shift in what kids want to major in. All have had an impact on UM's plummeting enrollment. But the way the university as a whole, from the top down, INCLUDING football, has also played an enormous role in how much Montana State is kicking Montana's ass in almost every single element of higher education.

As you can see from my follow-up (actually posted before I saw yours), I agree MSU has done a better job in the marketing dept and we have probably many people in the prior UM admin that need to take blame. None of which are Bobby. I was always thankful for the success of the football program when Bobby was here before. I was not a fan of his public persona and I am a competitive person who doesnt like asskissing nor fake friendliness. He needed to learn to be just a little more diplomatic but not compromise his integrity, though I didnt feel he owed me that as a fan. I, so far, think he has done a better job this time. Stress to the players the importance of staying out of trouble, getting grades and win football games. That is his job.

MSU has done a good job capitalizing on their most desirable academic programs and they have won some important football games. Really proud that my home state has an institution doing what they should. UM needs to catch up again. I think they will and then we can be proud of both institutions or maybe MSU will have upcoming struggles and we will be having similar conversations pointing in the other direction.

Overall, and I have said this numerous times on here, there is only a UM and an MSU in the minds of the people. Functionally, we are the same institution overseen by the same people for all of the people of Montana. I love “hating” the Cats as far as athletics go, at least when it comes to their success vs ours, but to hope (I know you haven’t but some have on here) that UM continues to struggle or ceases to exist is just ignorant and a**holish.
 
Colter_Nuanez56 said:
PlayerRep said:
Colter_Nuanez56 said:
PlayerRep said:
My view is different. I think your new producer doesn't know much yet. The UM program is way better than MSU's, and it's not even close. I bet TG would tell us that. And, I hope the Griz and Cats get another chance to play each other.

Just like I know and saw the Griz kill Weber, that doesn't mean that I think the Griz will kill Weber again, or even beat them. I think the same thing about the Griz and the Cats. if one team has a great game, and the other doesn't or has a bad game, that's not necessarily going to the occur the next time the teams meet. It's one game; one weekend. Griz had 9 good games this season and 2 bad ones. From what I saw of the Cats and read, the Cats did not have 9 good games. They struggled in various games, but were able to prevail. Prevailing is one mark of a good team. My guess is that Weber would have thumped the Cats this season. But, it all depends on the Saturday.

No commentary on what program I think is the stronger program. Just answering grizindabox question about someone new who moves to Montana. I do not think my producer is unique. Both of my photographers at Skyline (other than my brother) are from the South. They have very similar thoughts, without knowing the history, as our ESPN producer. At some point, with new people entering into any situation, perception has a huge influence on their reality.

I think people who fall for messaging, especially in things like sports, don’t understand the game. Don’t bring that guy to my party at Finn & Porter, or to Gild. Ha.

I too believe everyone should craft their own thoughts and opinions about all things after gathering all the information necessary. But that is simply not the case. In America, the vast majority of people are highly influenced by messaging, exposure, marketing...hence why Super Bowl ads cost multimillions of dollars.

What knowledgeable football fan judges the quality of a team and a program on messaging? Sorry Colter, if you that, then I won't even bother to glance at your free stuff. My god, that's about the dumbest thing I've ever seen.

Ads for products are completely different.
 
PlayerRep said:
Colter_Nuanez56 said:
PlayerRep said:
Colter_Nuanez56 said:
No commentary on what program I think is the stronger program. Just answering grizindabox question about someone new who moves to Montana. I do not think my producer is unique. Both of my photographers at Skyline (other than my brother) are from the South. They have very similar thoughts, without knowing the history, as our ESPN producer. At some point, with new people entering into any situation, perception has a huge influence on their reality.

I think people who fall for messaging, especially in things like sports, don’t understand the game. Don’t bring that guy to my party at Finn & Porter, or to Gild. Ha.

I too believe everyone should craft their own thoughts and opinions about all things after gathering all the information necessary. But that is simply not the case. In America, the vast majority of people are highly influenced by messaging, exposure, marketing...hence why Super Bowl ads cost multimillions of dollars.

What knowledgeable football fan judges the quality of a team and a program on messaging? Sorry Colter, if you that, then I won't even bother to glance at your free stuff. My god, that's about the dumbest thing I've ever seen.

Ads for products are completely different.

It’s not the dumbest thing you’ve ever seen. You read this website every day!

I’m speaking to why Montana has no students and the way outsiders see the programs. Nothing more. Have a nice Thanksgiving everybody!
 
I am glad somebody mentioned “the book” on this thread. I don’t know how anybody could read that book and be a fan of Hauck. Does he hurt our image?? Hell yes he does, almost every time he opens his mouth I cringe, especially how he talks about “the other school.”
 
Colter_Nuanez56 said:
PlayerRep said:
Colter_Nuanez56 said:
PlayerRep said:
I think people who fall for messaging, especially in things like sports, don’t understand the game. Don’t bring that guy to my party at Finn & Porter, or to Gild. Ha.

I too believe everyone should craft their own thoughts and opinions about all things after gathering all the information necessary. But that is simply not the case. In America, the vast majority of people are highly influenced by messaging, exposure, marketing...hence why Super Bowl ads cost multimillions of dollars.

What knowledgeable football fan judges the quality of a team and a program on messaging? Sorry Colter, if you that, then I won't even bother to glance at your free stuff. My god, that's about the dumbest thing I've ever seen.

Ads for products are completely different.

It’s not the dumbest thing you’ve ever seen. You read this website every day!

I’m speaking to why Montana has no students and the way outsiders see the programs. Nothing more. Have a nice Thanksgiving everybody!

This is a football and athletic board. I said what person judges the quality of a team and the quality of a program by messaging. I stand by that comment. If you think that, just plain dumber.

The quality of a school is not what I was assessing. Jeez, look at my prior post.
 
Westcoastfan said:
I am glad somebody mentioned “the book” on this thread. I don’t know how anybody could read that book and be a fan of Hauck. Does he hurt our image?? Hell yes he does, almost every time he opens his mouth I cringe, especially how he talks about “the other school.”

Toughen up buttercup
 
The.Real.2506 said:
mtgrizrule said:
wbtfg said:
Proud Griz Man said:
great post and it 100% describes the Bobby Hauck that I know.
2506 and other cat trolls don't listen effectively, as he gave MSU sufficient credit for their win. Do they go back and nit-pick the post-game comments of SEMO and BSC coaches who lost to MSU and go to their message boards with gripes? No.

I think you're somewhat missing the point of the initial post. Obviously Cat fans aren't giving Bobby the benefit of the doubt at any point. Just as the "Choach/Chode" crowd isn't going to give Jeff Choate the benefit of the doubt. That said, I think the comments in the initial post focus on media interaction/availability/candidness, etc. as well as overall perception in advancing the UM brand as a whole.

If I were a sports journalist, I think it would be extremely difficult to cover UM football because bobby doesn't give you anything...I think Colter would 2nd that emotion. That doesn't make him a bad coach or a bad guy, he's just cut from the same cloth as Saban and Belichick with regard to media interaction.

Obviously it's Bobby's main job to coach and win games. He's not paid give great stories to journalists or to be a one man PR team, that said with the state of UM admissions and the overall feelings/perceptions around the state, Bobby isn't doing anything in the media to help with the overall success of UM as an institution....which could be argued whether or not that's part of his responsibility as a head coach.

Mike and Brint, feel free to jump in if I'm misinterpreting.

The media should respect that Hauck plays things close to the vest. The less information out there, the better. It's a strategic advantage. The same can be said about journalists. How many journalists disclose the important information to the public, before a big article, book, story, etc? If they do, it lessens the number readers to their finished product. Seriously, how much common sense does it take to realize that?
And yet he was complaining that he didn't know TA was not going to play :thumb:

Choate still talked to the media in a reasonable manner, yet didn't give away his secrets

You don't have to be an asshole to hold thins close to the vest

You're really fucking dense, aren't you? Bobby's interview was fine and he wasn't complaining, just stating the point ask fact. I think it's time for you to log off of eGRIZ.com, Snowflake.
 
wbtfg said:
mtgrizrule said:
wbtfg said:
Proud Griz Man said:
great post and it 100% describes the Bobby Hauck that I know.
2506 and other cat trolls don't listen effectively, as he gave MSU sufficient credit for their win. Do they go back and nit-pick the post-game comments of SEMO and BSC coaches who lost to MSU and go to their message boards with gripes? No.

I think you're somewhat missing the point of the initial post. Obviously Cat fans aren't giving Bobby the benefit of the doubt at any point. Just as the "Choach/Chode" crowd isn't going to give Jeff Choate the benefit of the doubt. That said, I think the comments in the initial post focus on media interaction/availability/candidness, etc. as well as overall perception in advancing the UM brand as a whole.

If I were a sports journalist, I think it would be extremely difficult to cover UM football because bobby doesn't give you anything...I think Colter would 2nd that emotion. That doesn't make him a bad coach or a bad guy, he's just cut from the same cloth as Saban and Belichick with regard to media interaction.

Obviously it's Bobby's main job to coach and win games. He's not paid give great stories to journalists or to be a one man PR team, that said with the state of UM admissions and the overall feelings/perceptions around the state, Bobby isn't doing anything in the media to help with the overall success of UM as an institution....which could be argued whether or not that's part of his responsibility as a head coach.

Mike and Brint, feel free to jump in if I'm misinterpreting.

The media should respect that Hauck plays things close to the vest. The less information out there, the better. It's a strategic advantage. The same can be said about journalists. How many journalists disclose the important information to the public, before a big article, book, story, etc? If they do, it lessens the number readers to their finished product. Seriously, how much common sense does it take to realize that?

Choate talks a lot to the media. Makes himself readily available, tells stories, and give out pertinent information. I think that he does all of that without giving up a strategic advantage. I don't think it's a black and white topic, there's definitely a spectrum there. Choate and Hauck are just on opposite ends of that spectrum.

Is that why he started his post game press conference with something along the lines of "let's go, I have got places to go?"
 
Fahque said:
wbtfg said:
mtgrizrule said:
wbtfg said:
I think you're somewhat missing the point of the initial post. Obviously Cat fans aren't giving Bobby the benefit of the doubt at any point. Just as the "Choach/Chode" crowd isn't going to give Jeff Choate the benefit of the doubt. That said, I think the comments in the initial post focus on media interaction/availability/candidness, etc. as well as overall perception in advancing the UM brand as a whole.

If I were a sports journalist, I think it would be extremely difficult to cover UM football because bobby doesn't give you anything...I think Colter would 2nd that emotion. That doesn't make him a bad coach or a bad guy, he's just cut from the same cloth as Saban and Belichick with regard to media interaction.

Obviously it's Bobby's main job to coach and win games. He's not paid give great stories to journalists or to be a one man PR team, that said with the state of UM admissions and the overall feelings/perceptions around the state, Bobby isn't doing anything in the media to help with the overall success of UM as an institution....which could be argued whether or not that's part of his responsibility as a head coach.

Mike and Brint, feel free to jump in if I'm misinterpreting.

The media should respect that Hauck plays things close to the vest. The less information out there, the better. It's a strategic advantage. The same can be said about journalists. How many journalists disclose the important information to the public, before a big article, book, story, etc? If they do, it lessens the number readers to their finished product. Seriously, how much common sense does it take to realize that?

Choate talks a lot to the media. Makes himself readily available, tells stories, and give out pertinent information. I think that he does all of that without giving up a strategic advantage. I don't think it's a black and white topic, there's definitely a spectrum there. Choate and Hauck are just on opposite ends of that spectrum.

Is that why he started his post game press conference with something along the lines of "let's go, I have got places to go?"

I think that was a joke....
 
This has turned in to an interesting conversation but also gone a few places I definitely didn't intend. We discussed this on the pod for about ten minutes, and as the clip is me talking I want to clarify a few things.

1)This conversation wasn't in any way about whether Hauck is good or bad for the football program, or a good or bad guy. Some people took it there, but that absolutely was not what we discussed on the pod.
2) We all think the program is absolutely trending in the right direction. We also all agree a successful football team is good for the University of Montana and will help right the proverbial ship. Bobby is the right guy to rebuild this team, just like Souers said in the Missoulian article today, he is reestablishing the DNA.
3) We actually think Bobby is a funny and engaging guy. If you guys aren't members of QB Club you are missing out, he is hilarious and there is good content every week. They have a great streaming option as well. GoGriz.com/qbclub
4)None of us are telling Bobby how to "run his program" in fact we actually acknowledge specifically that we have never been a football coach. We personally don't have a problem with his press conferences, that isn't and wasn't the point and if that is your take away you should re-listen or let's meet up sometime and have a beer.
5)The point of this was not to criticize Bobby. It also isn't to say the way Choate runs things is better or worse. It is not an either or thing. Just discussing that there is more than one way to run a program with a positive trajectory.

Ok, now that we have that out of the way. The conversation was simply about whether or not UM is missing an opportunity to engage people who aren't already fans or supporters, or to better reach the casual fans. If you are reading this on a Griz message board because you are actively seeking out Griz content, you are already on the fan bus and not who we are talking about. Same if you follow UM Griz on social media, seek out the media coverage of the team, and so on.

Someone somewhere, either here or on Twitter said if we don't feel like there is enough content, we just aren't looking in the right places. First of all, we do a free fan podcast every week so I think it is safe to say the University can count on us to buy tickets and make our GSA and QB Club donations. We read and appreciate all they put out. If that was your takeaway, you missed the point.

What we are talking about is reaching the people that aren't actively seeking out the content. UM isn't at a place where we can simply take the attitude that we only care about the people that choose to be fans or supporters of the teams or the school itself. We need to be reaching new fans. UM didn't sell out a single game this year. We need to be reaching that casual fan to reengage. Think of your Mom who isn't an egriz member, or even your cousin who has never lived in Montana but might want to go to school here. They aren't going to seek out things about UM unless something catches them. That is who we are talking about finding ways to better reach. A successful football team definitely helps. The casual fan having more opportunities to learn about the special guys we have playing here is another.

Bobby's role at UM is bigger than football. We can sit here and act like it only matters how he runs the team, but that isn't the case. He is the highest or second highest paid person at UM and one of the top five highest paid public officials in the state. If football is the front porch of a school, then the head coach is an ambassador for the school in addition to being the coach. I know some won't agree or understand, but I don't think that is up for debate. We were simply discussing if there are ways to tweak what they already do to connect with a few more people.

If you listen to that part of our pod, listen with grizindabox's post in mind. That is the angle by which we were asking the question, though broader than the coaches if that makes sense.

grizindabox said:
Honest question. You are new to Montana and know little to nothing about the Cat and Griz programs. You sit down over the course of several weeks and watch multiple press conferences and interviews of both head coaches. What do you think your initial reaction would be about both coaches?
 
I had not been following your pod other than on here, and didn't have any problem with what was said about it, but interesting to read your long post. Thx.
 
mtgrizrule said:
wbtfg said:
mtgrizrule said:
wbtfg said:
I think you're somewhat missing the point of the initial post. Obviously Cat fans aren't giving Bobby the benefit of the doubt at any point. Just as the "Choach/Chode" crowd isn't going to give Jeff Choate the benefit of the doubt. That said, I think the comments in the initial post focus on media interaction/availability/candidness, etc. as well as overall perception in advancing the UM brand as a whole.

If I were a sports journalist, I think it would be extremely difficult to cover UM football because bobby doesn't give you anything...I think Colter would 2nd that emotion. That doesn't make him a bad coach or a bad guy, he's just cut from the same cloth as Saban and Belichick with regard to media interaction.

Obviously it's Bobby's main job to coach and win games. He's not paid give great stories to journalists or to be a one man PR team, that said with the state of UM admissions and the overall feelings/perceptions around the state, Bobby isn't doing anything in the media to help with the overall success of UM as an institution....which could be argued whether or not that's part of his responsibility as a head coach.

Mike and Brint, feel free to jump in if I'm misinterpreting.

The media should respect that Hauck plays things close to the vest. The less information out there, the better. It's a strategic advantage. The same can be said about journalists. How many journalists disclose the important information to the public, before a big article, book, story, etc? If they do, it lessens the number readers to their finished product. Seriously, how much common sense does it take to realize that?

Choate talks a lot to the media. Makes himself readily available, tells stories, and give out pertinent information. I think that he does all of that without giving up a strategic advantage. I don't think it's a black and white topic, there's definitely a spectrum there. Choate and Hauck are just on opposite ends of that spectrum.

They're different people. I don't expect any coach to kiss the media's ass. God knows, the local rag in Missoula goes to extreme measures to provide negative narratives of the Griz and Hauck. Why should Hauck reward them? I'd be apprehensive too. The journalists are paid to be in their chosen profession. That's part of their job. Why make things worse by bitching about it? I guarantee the older journalists would think of ways to better the relationship rather than write to further hurt things. Christ Sake, this politically correct world needs to toughen up and loosen up!!! How about taking the time to actually get to know the man?
This is rich. Whining about bad press in one sentence and telling them to toughen up in another... Hauck is an ahole, there is no getting around it, stop being such a snowflake, he brings it on himself.
 
indian-outlaw said:
mtgrizrule said:
wbtfg said:
mtgrizrule said:
The media should respect that Hauck plays things close to the vest. The less information out there, the better. It's a strategic advantage. The same can be said about journalists. How many journalists disclose the important information to the public, before a big article, book, story, etc? If they do, it lessens the number readers to their finished product. Seriously, how much common sense does it take to realize that?

Choate talks a lot to the media. Makes himself readily available, tells stories, and give out pertinent information. I think that he does all of that without giving up a strategic advantage. I don't think it's a black and white topic, there's definitely a spectrum there. Choate and Hauck are just on opposite ends of that spectrum.

They're different people. I don't expect any coach to kiss the media's ass. God knows, the local rag in Missoula goes to extreme measures to provide negative narratives of the Griz and Hauck. Why should Hauck reward them? I'd be apprehensive too. The journalists are paid to be in their chosen profession. That's part of their job. Why make things worse by bitching about it? I guarantee the older journalists would think of ways to better the relationship rather than write to further hurt things. Christ Sake, this politically correct world needs to toughen up and loosen up!!! How about taking the time to actually get to know the man?
This is rich. Whining about bad press in one sentence and telling them to toughen up in another... Hauck is an ahole, there is no getting around it, stop being such a snowflake, he brings it on himself.

Hauck isn't an asshole. He's a great guy.
 
PlayerRep said:
indian-outlaw said:
mtgrizrule said:
wbtfg said:
Choate talks a lot to the media. Makes himself readily available, tells stories, and give out pertinent information. I think that he does all of that without giving up a strategic advantage. I don't think it's a black and white topic, there's definitely a spectrum there. Choate and Hauck are just on opposite ends of that spectrum.

They're different people. I don't expect any coach to kiss the media's ass. God knows, the local rag in Missoula goes to extreme measures to provide negative narratives of the Griz and Hauck. Why should Hauck reward them? I'd be apprehensive too. The journalists are paid to be in their chosen profession. That's part of their job. Why make things worse by bitching about it? I guarantee the older journalists would think of ways to better the relationship rather than write to further hurt things. Christ Sake, this politically correct world needs to toughen up and loosen up!!! How about taking the time to actually get to know the man?
This is rich. Whining about bad press in one sentence and telling them to toughen up in another... Hauck is an ahole, there is no getting around it, stop being such a snowflake, he brings it on himself.

Hauck isn't an asshole. He's a great guy.

All that really matters is what his players (past & present) think & I have heard nothing but positive things in that regard!
 
PlayerRep said:
indian-outlaw said:
mtgrizrule said:
wbtfg said:
Choate talks a lot to the media. Makes himself readily available, tells stories, and give out pertinent information. I think that he does all of that without giving up a strategic advantage. I don't think it's a black and white topic, there's definitely a spectrum there. Choate and Hauck are just on opposite ends of that spectrum.

They're different people. I don't expect any coach to kiss the media's ass. God knows, the local rag in Missoula goes to extreme measures to provide negative narratives of the Griz and Hauck. Why should Hauck reward them? I'd be apprehensive too. The journalists are paid to be in their chosen profession. That's part of their job. Why make things worse by bitching about it? I guarantee the older journalists would think of ways to better the relationship rather than write to further hurt things. Christ Sake, this politically correct world needs to toughen up and loosen up!!! How about taking the time to actually get to know the man?
This is rich. Whining about bad press in one sentence and telling them to toughen up in another... Hauck is an ahole, there is no getting around it, stop being such a snowflake, he brings it on himself.

Hauck isn't an asshole. He's a great guy.

He comes across as an a55hole in his pressers, its not the medias fault either. He wants to play this game that he is Bill Belichick but his is still just little Bobby from buttfuk% Montana
 
You and the Ind.Outlaw don't know him. You hijacked the thread grzzz started about MSU's media approach and turned it against one coach.

The.Real.2506 said:
PlayerRep said:
indian-outlaw said:
mtgrizrule said:
How about taking the time to actually get to know the man?
This is rich. Whining about bad press in one sentence and telling them to toughen up in another... Hauck is an ahole, there is no getting around it, stop being such a snowflake, he brings it on himself.

Hauck isn't an asshole. He's a great guy.

He comes across as an a55hole in his pressers, its not the medias fault either. He wants to play this game that he is Bill Belichick but his is still just little Bobby from buttfuk% Montana
 
Proud Griz Man said:
You and the Ind.Outlaw don't know him. You hijacked the thread grzzz started about MSU's media approach and turned it against one coach.

The.Real.2506 said:
PlayerRep said:
indian-outlaw said:
This is rich. Whining about bad press in one sentence and telling them to toughen up in another... Hauck is an ahole, there is no getting around it, stop being such a snowflake, he brings it on himself.

Hauck isn't an asshole. He's a great guy.

He comes across as an a55hole in his pressers, its not the medias fault either. He wants to play this game that he is Bill Belichick but his is still just little Bobby from buttfuk% Montana
How about taking the time to actually get to know the man?
I am not a fizz booster and am not really going to have any reason to interact personally with BH, so what I have is the impression he give in his press interactions. I think that is the point of this thread. People outside of the fizz inner circle are likely to see him this way, people that only know him through his press interactions will think he is an a55hole. This is something that is in his control.
 
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