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Program and coaching staff engagement with media & fans

The.Real.2506 said:
PlayerRep said:
The.Real.2506 said:
PlayerRep said:
This post of 2506 is a good example of a stupid post and his being uninformed and stupid:

"In media appearances he comes across as an arrogant, narcissistic snide prick. He appears overbearing and controlling on his players."

First, how many media appearances has 2506 ever watched or attended? How many times has he met or talked to Hauck?

Narcissistic. That is just plain dumb. Hauck is not that in any respect. People like 2506 don't even know what that is. They just throw the term around. I'm okay with snide, prick and maybe arrogant, in terms of coming across to people who don't know or don't like him.

However, in person with people like GrizRule and me, and at events like QB Club, Bobby is very nice and engaging. Big smile. Talkative. Laughing. Joking. Bobby has a lot of good friends. The ones I know are all great guys too. Bobby has a lot of women, like my wife, who really like him too.

I can see how some of the media wouldn't like him, but some of those people ask stupid questions or write stupid things about the Griz, or have violated what Hauck thinks the policy is for reporting things.

As for the Cats, I assume Hauck intentionally tries to get their goats, and say things that rankle them. It's a big rivalry. He grew up on the Griz side of it. And, I can't imagine that Hauck cares about what partisan Cat fans think of him. He probably likes that some are constantly irritated by him.

you don't comprehend simple things very well do ya :thumb:

the weekly pressers are posted on line, I usually watch bobbys too, I sometimes catch the post game pressers too. I have never met or talked to him in person. If you had read and comprehended my post you would understand that, but that is a bit of a stretch to expect I realize. :thumb:

Go ahead call me names if you don't have a logical argument :)

My level of comprehension has always been very high. That helped me a lot in life.

Hauck deals a lot more with the media than just weekly pressers. Personally, I think a fan who goes out of his way to watch of the pressers of opposing coaches must have a screw loose, or is lacking something in his life.

I have lots of arguments and support what I say. But you are way out there, and I truly believe much of what you post is stupid. People like you who can't support what they say, have comebacks like the one you just tried to use. And, you say Hauck is all these things, and you've never met him, and then when I come back at you to say what you said is stupid, you start whining.
I always try to find out as much as I can about the opponent, you think that is weird?

Maybe that is why you come across as someone that doesn't know what they are talking about most of the time. :thumb:

Wow PlayerRep, your comments are off base even for you. Giving an honest opinion from the other side isn't a bad thing - most would gain some perspective of how Bobby's seen without maroon colored glasses. I too watch pressers - and while I never played the interviewer game - I think I can comment here. Bobby is a different man today than he was 10 years ago, who isn't? But Bobby sowed some sour seeds back then, and some folks still remember - most of us do. While he's softened the message to the outside world there's something about his demeanor in the pressers that's irritating. If you're a parent/kid looking at these, Choate's likable and Bobby, well, he's not. That's not an arrogant or stupid statement, it's a fact. When recruits and parents are looking at these interviews, they see two completely different personalities and that may be what's troublesome for some griz fans.
 
BWahlberg said:
On our GFP last night I think Mike a point that I chopped up and wanted to share here. The differences he sees between the two schools and how they engage and communicate with fans.

https://twitter.com/Bwahlberg/status/1199418300297621511

HA HA HA, LMAO. A dude explaining how a head football coach of a D1 program should interact with the media and their fan base!! Perhaps this guy has his masters in communications? I think I better share this with Coach Tucker at CU to save his job. I am sure Bobby Hauck is losing sleep at night worrying about this post. :lol:
 
westsider said:
BWahlberg said:
On our GFP last night I think Mike a point that I chopped up and wanted to share here. The differences he sees between the two schools and how they engage and communicate with fans.

https://twitter.com/Bwahlberg/status/1199418300297621511

HA HA HA, LMAO. A dude explaining how a head football coach of a D1 program should interact with the media and their fan base!! Perhaps this guy has his masters in communications? I think I better share this with Coach Tucker at CU to save his job. I am sure Bobby Hauck is losing sleep at night worrying about this post. :lol:

Guess it went entirely over your head since it is not directly about Bobby and more about the athletic department as a whole, of which Bobby is just a part.
 
grizindabox said:
Honest question. You are new to Montana and know little to nothing about the Cat and Griz programs. You sit down over the course of several weeks and watch multiple press conferences and interviews of both head coaches. What do you think your initial reaction would be about both coaches?

Our new producer of Tootell and Nuanez is 24 years old, a college football fanatic and a native of Little Rock, Arkansas. He had no knowledge of the Cats or the Griz before he started to work for us other than that they both have passionate fan bases and that Missoula was a sweet town.

Last Thursday, I asked him what his take on the game was. He said, 'Oh, I think Montana State is going to absolutely kill Montana." I asked why. He said, "It seems to me from everything I've learned from listening to the press conferences and all the coverage of both programs, Montana State is just the better program, the better school, the better team. And they have all the better players."

In other words, Jeff Choate's willingness and eagerness to promote his program is hugely influential on young people. Regardless of if that take is right or not, our producer knew a great deal of information about Montana State and the teams they've played because of the way Choate talks.

To me, a University of Montana alum, it is not a coincidence: the entire university's failings in communication and marketing over the last 10 years is directly related to an enrollment down nearly 10,000 students from when I attended. This will be the last comment I make on this issue publicly (for now) but my email is always open.
 
Bear Spray said:
The.Real.2506 said:
PlayerRep said:
The.Real.2506 said:
you don't comprehend simple things very well do ya :thumb:

the weekly pressers are posted on line, I usually watch bobbys too, I sometimes catch the post game pressers too. I have never met or talked to him in person. If you had read and comprehended my post you would understand that, but that is a bit of a stretch to expect I realize. :thumb:

Go ahead call me names if you don't have a logical argument :)

My level of comprehension has always been very high. That helped me a lot in life.

Hauck deals a lot more with the media than just weekly pressers. Personally, I think a fan who goes out of his way to watch of the pressers of opposing coaches must have a screw loose, or is lacking something in his life.

I have lots of arguments and support what I say. But you are way out there, and I truly believe much of what you post is stupid. People like you who can't support what they say, have comebacks like the one you just tried to use. And, you say Hauck is all these things, and you've never met him, and then when I come back at you to say what you said is stupid, you start whining.
I always try to find out as much as I can about the opponent, you think that is weird?

Maybe that is why you come across as someone that doesn't know what they are talking about most of the time. :thumb:

Wow PlayerRep, your comments are off base even for you. Giving an honest opinion from the other side isn't a bad thing - most would gain some perspective of how Bobby's seen without maroon colored glasses. I too watch pressers - and while I never played the interviewer game - I think I can comment here. Bobby is a different man today than he was 10 years ago, who isn't? But Bobby sowed some sour seeds back then, and some folks still remember - most of us do. While he's softened the message to the outside world there's something about his demeanor in the pressers that's irritating. If you're a parent/kid looking at these, Choate's likable and Bobby, well, he's not. That's not an arrogant or stupid statement, it's a fact. When recruits and parents are looking at these interviews, they see two completely different personalities and that may be what's troublesome for some griz fans.

No, my comments were completely right. Let me know if you want to debate any of them.

I don't agree that Choate comes off great in interviews. He doesn't bother me, and I like him, but you must have your Cat colored glasses on.

From what I've heard, recruits and families like Hauck better than Choate, by the way.

Do you think recruits watch the interviews of the coaches?
 
Colter_Nuanez56 said:
grizindabox said:
Honest question. You are new to Montana and know little to nothing about the Cat and Griz programs. You sit down over the course of several weeks and watch multiple press conferences and interviews of both head coaches. What do you think your initial reaction would be about both coaches?

Our new producer of Tootell and Nuanez is 24 years old, a college football fanatic and a native of Little Rock, Arkansas. He had no knowledge of the Cats or the Griz before he started to work for us other than that they both have passionate fan bases and that Missoula was a sweet town.

Last Thursday, I asked him what his take on the game was. He said, 'Oh, I think Montana State is going to absolutely kill Montana." I asked why. He said, "It seems to me from everything I've learned from listening to the press conferences and all the coverage of both programs, Montana State is just the better program, the better school, the better team. And they have all the better players."

In other words, Jeff Choate's willingness and eagerness to promote his program is hugely influential on young people. Regardless of if that take is right or not, our producer knew a great deal of information about Montana State and the teams they've played because of the way Choate talks.

To me, a University of Montana alum, it is not a coincidence: the entire university's failings in communication and marketing over the last 10 years is directly related to an enrollment down nearly 10,000 students from when I attended. This will be the last comment I make on this issue publicly (for now) but my email is always open.

Interesting commentary....it sounds like there is a lot more below the surface of this as well. Thanks for sharing, I think you have a unique perspective that we, as fans, don't have the opportunity to experience.
 
Colter_Nuanez56 said:
grizindabox said:
Honest question. You are new to Montana and know little to nothing about the Cat and Griz programs. You sit down over the course of several weeks and watch multiple press conferences and interviews of both head coaches. What do you think your initial reaction would be about both coaches?

Our new producer of Tootell and Nuanez is 24 years old, a college football fanatic and a native of Little Rock, Arkansas. He had no knowledge of the Cats or the Griz before he started to work for us other than that they both have passionate fan bases and that Missoula was a sweet town.

Last Thursday, I asked him what his take on the game was. He said, 'Oh, I think Montana State is going to absolutely kill Montana." I asked why. He said, "It seems to me from everything I've learned from listening to the press conferences and all the coverage of both programs, Montana State is just the better program, the better school, the better team. And they have all the better players."

In other words, Jeff Choate's willingness and eagerness to promote his program is hugely influential on young people. Regardless of if that take is right or not, our producer knew a great deal of information about Montana State and the teams they've played because of the way Choate talks.

To me, a University of Montana alum, it is not a coincidence: the entire university's failings in communication and marketing over the last 10 years is directly related to an enrollment down nearly 10,000 students from when I attended. This will be the last comment I make on this issue publicly (for now) but my email is always open.

My view is different. I think your new producer doesn't know much yet. The UM program is way better than MSU's, and it's not even close. I bet TG would tell us that. And, I hope the Griz and Cats get another chance to play each other.

Just like I know and saw the Griz kill Weber, that doesn't mean that I think the Griz will kill Weber again, or even beat them. I think the same thing about the Griz and the Cats. if one team has a great game, and the other doesn't or has a bad game, that's not necessarily going to the occur the next time the teams meet. It's one game; one weekend. Griz had 9 good games this season and 2 bad ones. From what I saw of the Cats and read, the Cats did not have 9 good games. They struggled in various games, but were able to prevail. Prevailing is one mark of a good team. My guess is that Weber would have thumped the Cats this season. But, it all depends on the Saturday.
 
MONDAK said:
PlayerRep said:
MONDAK said:
The.Real.2506, stop wasting time with PlayerRep. He is even a bigger arrogant A-hole with a narcissistic personality disorder in person.

So another keyboard guy who likes to talk to big and then hide? Sure, you have a lot of credibility.

Hide? Online? By post count credibility, ya got me. LOL. If only you knew. Start with your sister Idelle. Want more names? My opinion is far from exclusive. Spent plenty of time with you in Van's/Brad's Griz box. Shut it.

And it's too (as in "too big").

:shock: :coffee:
 
MONDAK said:
PlayerRep said:
MONDAK said:
The.Real.2506, stop wasting time with PlayerRep. He is even a bigger arrogant A-hole with a narcissistic personality disorder in person.

So another keyboard guy who likes to talk to big and then hide? Sure, you have a lot of credibility.

Hide? Online? By post count credibility, ya got me. LOL. If only you knew. Start with your sister Idelle. Want more names? My opinion is far from exclusive. Spent plenty of time with you in Van's/Brad's Griz box. Shut it.

And it's too (as in "too big").

There is and was no such thing as a Van's box. Van's never had a box lease at Griz stadium.

Were you friends with the Van's guy who's now in prison? Assume so.

Just talked to my sister. She said you are an asshole and a liar. Ha.

Yes, I want more names. Also, I want you to tell us more about the "Van's" box. What went on at games? Who was there? Who ran the box? What did I do that supports what you're saying? I want to test you a bit. While you may come have into the box, along with three or four thousand other people over the years, I have my doubts about you.

Edit: my sister just called me. Said it-you are bizarre. Said it was probably the idiot who got a bunch of degrees in North Dakota.
 
PlayerRep said:
Colter_Nuanez56 said:
grizindabox said:
Honest question. You are new to Montana and know little to nothing about the Cat and Griz programs. You sit down over the course of several weeks and watch multiple press conferences and interviews of both head coaches. What do you think your initial reaction would be about both coaches?

Our new producer of Tootell and Nuanez is 24 years old, a college football fanatic and a native of Little Rock, Arkansas. He had no knowledge of the Cats or the Griz before he started to work for us other than that they both have passionate fan bases and that Missoula was a sweet town.

Last Thursday, I asked him what his take on the game was. He said, 'Oh, I think Montana State is going to absolutely kill Montana." I asked why. He said, "It seems to me from everything I've learned from listening to the press conferences and all the coverage of both programs, Montana State is just the better program, the better school, the better team. And they have all the better players."

In other words, Jeff Choate's willingness and eagerness to promote his program is hugely influential on young people. Regardless of if that take is right or not, our producer knew a great deal of information about Montana State and the teams they've played because of the way Choate talks.

To me, a University of Montana alum, it is not a coincidence: the entire university's failings in communication and marketing over the last 10 years is directly related to an enrollment down nearly 10,000 students from when I attended. This will be the last comment I make on this issue publicly (for now) but my email is always open.

My view is different. I think your new producer doesn't know much yet. The UM program is way better than MSU's, and it's not even close. I bet TG would tell us that. And, I hope the Griz and Cats get another chance to play each other.

Just like I know and saw the Griz kill Weber, that doesn't mean that I think the Griz will kill Weber again, or even beat them. I think the same thing about the Griz and the Cats. if one team has a great game, and the other doesn't or has a bad game, that's not necessarily going to the occur the next time the teams meet. It's one game; one weekend. Griz had 9 good games this season and 2 bad ones. From what I saw of the Cats and read, the Cats did not have 9 good games. They struggled in various games, but were able to prevail. Prevailing is one mark of a good team. My guess is that Weber would have thumped the Cats this season. But, it all depends on the Saturday.

No commentary on what program I think is the stronger program. Just answering grizindabox question about someone new who moves to Montana. I do not think my producer is unique. Both of my photographers at Skyline (other than my brother) are from the South. They have very similar thoughts, without knowing the history, as our ESPN producer. At some point, with new people entering into any situation, perception has a huge influence on their reality.
 
PlayerRep said:
Colter_Nuanez56 said:
grizindabox said:
Honest question. You are new to Montana and know little to nothing about the Cat and Griz programs. You sit down over the course of several weeks and watch multiple press conferences and interviews of both head coaches. What do you think your initial reaction would be about both coaches?

Our new producer of Tootell and Nuanez is 24 years old, a college football fanatic and a native of Little Rock, Arkansas. He had no knowledge of the Cats or the Griz before he started to work for us other than that they both have passionate fan bases and that Missoula was a sweet town.

Last Thursday, I asked him what his take on the game was. He said, 'Oh, I think Montana State is going to absolutely kill Montana." I asked why. He said, "It seems to me from everything I've learned from listening to the press conferences and all the coverage of both programs, Montana State is just the better program, the better school, the better team. And they have all the better players."

In other words, Jeff Choate's willingness and eagerness to promote his program is hugely influential on young people. Regardless of if that take is right or not, our producer knew a great deal of information about Montana State and the teams they've played because of the way Choate talks.

To me, a University of Montana alum, it is not a coincidence: the entire university's failings in communication and marketing over the last 10 years is directly related to an enrollment down nearly 10,000 students from when I attended. This will be the last comment I make on this issue publicly (for now) but my email is always open.

My view is different. I think your new producer doesn't know much yet. The UM program is way better than MSU's, and it's not even close. I bet TG would tell us that. And, I hope the Griz and Cats get another chance to play each other.

Just like I know and saw the Griz kill Weber, that doesn't mean that I think the Griz will kill Weber again, or even beat them. I think the same thing about the Griz and the Cats. if one team has a great game, and the other doesn't or has a bad game, that's not necessarily going to the occur the next time the teams meet. It's one game; one weekend. Griz had 9 good games this season and 2 bad ones. From what I saw of the Cats and read, the Cats did not have 9 good games. They struggled in various games, but were able to prevail. Prevailing is one mark of a good team. My guess is that Weber would have thumped the Cats this season. But, it all depends on the Saturday.

I think Colter was using his producer as an example of the effectiveness of the messaging and marketing between the two schools/programs/coaches.
 
Honestly I think all of these comments are biased. The opinion of one producer who knows nothing about the state means nothing. The people he spoke to that lead him to his conclusion may be biased toward MSU. He could have just as easily been in contact with people that would have said otherwise. Shoot just ask him who people he spoke to said would win every game and we wont even need to play them anymore because he will be able to tell us who will win every game. :D

People didnt like Bobby from before because he won alot and was not shy about doing so. I dont think most on here are being objective. I think he has been pretty good in the pressers. Is he Joe Glenn? No. Neither is Choate. Pretty sure he (Choate) has had some past gaffes as well.

I think people are also piling on in light if the recent Cat victory. You (Cats) all were not happy with Choate after the UND game and not really after the CP game either. Pretty sure he threw some silly fits on TV that didnt represent MSU all that favorably in a recent game. Wouldnt really bother me as he is just trying to do his job in an emotional environment.

Just wait and see how things go as Bobby builds the program. As for now I think everyone can relax and let him work. He hasnt done anything to warrant all of this negative perspective this go around.
 
Colter_Nuanez56 said:
PlayerRep said:
Colter_Nuanez56 said:
grizindabox said:
Honest question. You are new to Montana and know little to nothing about the Cat and Griz programs. You sit down over the course of several weeks and watch multiple press conferences and interviews of both head coaches. What do you think your initial reaction would be about both coaches?

Our new producer of Tootell and Nuanez is 24 years old, a college football fanatic and a native of Little Rock, Arkansas. He had no knowledge of the Cats or the Griz before he started to work for us other than that they both have passionate fan bases and that Missoula was a sweet town.

Last Thursday, I asked him what his take on the game was. He said, 'Oh, I think Montana State is going to absolutely kill Montana." I asked why. He said, "It seems to me from everything I've learned from listening to the press conferences and all the coverage of both programs, Montana State is just the better program, the better school, the better team. And they have all the better players."

In other words, Jeff Choate's willingness and eagerness to promote his program is hugely influential on young people. Regardless of if that take is right or not, our producer knew a great deal of information about Montana State and the teams they've played because of the way Choate talks.

To me, a University of Montana alum, it is not a coincidence: the entire university's failings in communication and marketing over the last 10 years is directly related to an enrollment down nearly 10,000 students from when I attended. This will be the last comment I make on this issue publicly (for now) but my email is always open.

My view is different. I think your new producer doesn't know much yet. The UM program is way better than MSU's, and it's not even close. I bet TG would tell us that. And, I hope the Griz and Cats get another chance to play each other.

Just like I know and saw the Griz kill Weber, that doesn't mean that I think the Griz will kill Weber again, or even beat them. I think the same thing about the Griz and the Cats. if one team has a great game, and the other doesn't or has a bad game, that's not necessarily going to the occur the next time the teams meet. It's one game; one weekend. Griz had 9 good games this season and 2 bad ones. From what I saw of the Cats and read, the Cats did not have 9 good games. They struggled in various games, but were able to prevail. Prevailing is one mark of a good team. My guess is that Weber would have thumped the Cats this season. But, it all depends on the Saturday.

No commentary on what program I think is the stronger program. Just answering grizindabox question about someone new who moves to Montana. I do not think my producer is unique. Both of my photographers at Skyline (other than my brother) are from the South. They have very similar thoughts, without knowing the history, as our ESPN producer. At some point, with new people entering into any situation, perception has a huge influence on their reality.

I think people who fall for messaging, especially in things like sports, don’t understand the game. Don’t bring that guy to my party at Finn & Porter, or to Gild. Ha.
 
cmtgrizzly said:
Honestly I think all of these comments are biased. The opinion of one producer who knows nothing about the state means nothing. The people he spoke to that lead him to his conclusion may be biased toward MSU. He could have just as easily been in contact with people that would have said otherwise. Shoot just ask him who people he spoke to said would win every game and we wont even need to play them anymore because he will be able to tell us who will win every game. :D

People didnt like Bobby from before because he won alot and was not shy about doing so. I dont think most on here are being objective. I think he has been pretty good in the pressers. Is he Joe Glenn? No. Neither is Choate. Pretty sure he (Choate) has had some past gaffes as well.

I think people are also piling on in light if the recent Cat victory. You (Cats) all were not happy with Choate after the UND game and not really after the CP game either. Pretty sure he threw some silly fits on TV that didnt represent MSU all that favorably in a recent game. Wouldnt really bother me as he is just trying to do his job in an emotional environment.

Just wait and see how things go as Bobby builds the program. As for now I think everyone can relax and let him work. He hasnt done anything to warrant all of this negative perspective this go around.

The point is he thought Montana State was going to win because he knew much more about them, which is a microcosmic example of how everyone who is not from Montana and has no previous knowledge of UM or MSU knows way more about Montana State in every way because of communication and marketing. This is so much bigger than 10 minute press conferences by a football coach. The fact of the matter is that people who don't have previous knowledge of either in-state school have an avenue and entry point to learn much more about Montana State than Montana. And that was not the case whatsoever 10-15 years ago.

People blame scandal and Krakauer and the shift in what kids want to major in. All have had an impact on UM's plummeting enrollment. But the way the university as a whole, from the top down, INCLUDING football, has also played an enormous role in how much Montana State is kicking Montana's ass in almost every single element of higher education.
 
Colter_Nuanez56 said:
PlayerRep said:
Colter_Nuanez56 said:
grizindabox said:
Honest question. You are new to Montana and know little to nothing about the Cat and Griz programs. You sit down over the course of several weeks and watch multiple press conferences and interviews of both head coaches. What do you think your initial reaction would be about both coaches?

Our new producer of Tootell and Nuanez is 24 years old, a college football fanatic and a native of Little Rock, Arkansas. He had no knowledge of the Cats or the Griz before he started to work for us other than that they both have passionate fan bases and that Missoula was a sweet town.

Last Thursday, I asked him what his take on the game was. He said, 'Oh, I think Montana State is going to absolutely kill Montana." I asked why. He said, "It seems to me from everything I've learned from listening to the press conferences and all the coverage of both programs, Montana State is just the better program, the better school, the better team. And they have all the better players."

In other words, Jeff Choate's willingness and eagerness to promote his program is hugely influential on young people. Regardless of if that take is right or not, our producer knew a great deal of information about Montana State and the teams they've played because of the way Choate talks.

To me, a University of Montana alum, it is not a coincidence: the entire university's failings in communication and marketing over the last 10 years is directly related to an enrollment down nearly 10,000 students from when I attended. This will be the last comment I make on this issue publicly (for now) but my email is always open.

My view is different. I think your new producer doesn't know much yet. The UM program is way better than MSU's, and it's not even close. I bet TG would tell us that. And, I hope the Griz and Cats get another chance to play each other.

Just like I know and saw the Griz kill Weber, that doesn't mean that I think the Griz will kill Weber again, or even beat them. I think the same thing about the Griz and the Cats. if one team has a great game, and the other doesn't or has a bad game, that's not necessarily going to the occur the next time the teams meet. It's one game; one weekend. Griz had 9 good games this season and 2 bad ones. From what I saw of the Cats and read, the Cats did not have 9 good games. They struggled in various games, but were able to prevail. Prevailing is one mark of a good team. My guess is that Weber would have thumped the Cats this season. But, it all depends on the Saturday.

No commentary on what program I think is the stronger program. Just answering grizindabox question about someone new who moves to Montana. I do not think my producer is unique. Both of my photographers at Skyline (other than my brother) are from the South. They have very similar thoughts, without knowing the history, as our ESPN producer. At some point, with new people entering into any situation, perception has a huge influence on their reality.

The difference in perception of the two Universities changed long before Bobby got back. MSU has been kicking butt in many facets for years now. Has nothing to do with Bobby. Lots of positivity there. UM, including Bobby, are trying to catch up. He is doing his part by making the football team competitive.
 
PlayerRep said:
Colter_Nuanez56 said:
PlayerRep said:
Colter_Nuanez56 said:
Our new producer of Tootell and Nuanez is 24 years old, a college football fanatic and a native of Little Rock, Arkansas. He had no knowledge of the Cats or the Griz before he started to work for us other than that they both have passionate fan bases and that Missoula was a sweet town.

Last Thursday, I asked him what his take on the game was. He said, 'Oh, I think Montana State is going to absolutely kill Montana." I asked why. He said, "It seems to me from everything I've learned from listening to the press conferences and all the coverage of both programs, Montana State is just the better program, the better school, the better team. And they have all the better players."

In other words, Jeff Choate's willingness and eagerness to promote his program is hugely influential on young people. Regardless of if that take is right or not, our producer knew a great deal of information about Montana State and the teams they've played because of the way Choate talks.

To me, a University of Montana alum, it is not a coincidence: the entire university's failings in communication and marketing over the last 10 years is directly related to an enrollment down nearly 10,000 students from when I attended. This will be the last comment I make on this issue publicly (for now) but my email is always open.

My view is different. I think your new producer doesn't know much yet. The UM program is way better than MSU's, and it's not even close. I bet TG would tell us that. And, I hope the Griz and Cats get another chance to play each other.

Just like I know and saw the Griz kill Weber, that doesn't mean that I think the Griz will kill Weber again, or even beat them. I think the same thing about the Griz and the Cats. if one team has a great game, and the other doesn't or has a bad game, that's not necessarily going to the occur the next time the teams meet. It's one game; one weekend. Griz had 9 good games this season and 2 bad ones. From what I saw of the Cats and read, the Cats did not have 9 good games. They struggled in various games, but were able to prevail. Prevailing is one mark of a good team. My guess is that Weber would have thumped the Cats this season. But, it all depends on the Saturday.

No commentary on what program I think is the stronger program. Just answering grizindabox question about someone new who moves to Montana. I do not think my producer is unique. Both of my photographers at Skyline (other than my brother) are from the South. They have very similar thoughts, without knowing the history, as our ESPN producer. At some point, with new people entering into any situation, perception has a huge influence on their reality.

I think people who fall for messaging, especially in things like sports, don’t understand the game. Don’t bring that guy to my party at Finn & Porter, or to Gild. Ha.

I too believe everyone should craft their own thoughts and opinions about all things after gathering all the information necessary. But that is simply not the case. In America, the vast majority of people are highly influenced by messaging, exposure, marketing...hence why Super Bowl ads cost multimillions of dollars.
 
PlayerRep said:
MONDAK said:
PlayerRep said:
MONDAK said:
The.Real.2506, stop wasting time with PlayerRep. He is even a bigger arrogant A-hole with a narcissistic personality disorder in person.

So another keyboard guy who likes to talk to big and then hide? Sure, you have a lot of credibility.

Hide? Online? By post count credibility, ya got me. LOL. If only you knew. Start with your sister Idelle. Want more names? My opinion is far from exclusive. Spent plenty of time with you in Van's/Brad's Griz box. Shut it.

And it's too (as in "too big").

There is and was no such thing as a Van's box. Van's never had a box lease at Griz stadium.

Were you friends with the Van's guy who's now in prison? Assume so.

Just talked to my sister. She said you are an asshole and a liar. Ha.

Yes, I want more names. Also, I want you to tell us more about the "Van's" box. What went on at games? Who was there? Who ran the box? What did I do that supports what you're saying? I want to test you a bit. While you may come have into the box, along with three or four thousand other people over the years, I have my doubts about you.

Edit: my sister just called me. Said it-you are bizarre. Said it was probably the idiot who got a bunch of degrees in North Dakota.

Ha. Ok. Even John said you are a dick. Behind your back ... like the others. One armed Brad says the same. Please tell us all more how great you are. Dirt? Wanna push me more?

Karma
 
PlayerRep said:
Bear Spray said:
The.Real.2506 said:
PlayerRep said:
My level of comprehension has always been very high. That helped me a lot in life.

Hauck deals a lot more with the media than just weekly pressers. Personally, I think a fan who goes out of his way to watch of the pressers of opposing coaches must have a screw loose, or is lacking something in his life.

I have lots of arguments and support what I say. But you are way out there, and I truly believe much of what you post is stupid. People like you who can't support what they say, have comebacks like the one you just tried to use. And, you say Hauck is all these things, and you've never met him, and then when I come back at you to say what you said is stupid, you start whining.
I always try to find out as much as I can about the opponent, you think that is weird?

Maybe that is why you come across as someone that doesn't know what they are talking about most of the time. :thumb:

Wow PlayerRep, your comments are off base even for you. Giving an honest opinion from the other side isn't a bad thing - most would gain some perspective of how Bobby's seen without maroon colored glasses. I too watch pressers - and while I never played the interviewer game - I think I can comment here. Bobby is a different man today than he was 10 years ago, who isn't? But Bobby sowed some sour seeds back then, and some folks still remember - most of us do. While he's softened the message to the outside world there's something about his demeanor in the pressers that's irritating. If you're a parent/kid looking at these, Choate's likable and Bobby, well, he's not. That's not an arrogant or stupid statement, it's a fact. When recruits and parents are looking at these interviews, they see two completely different personalities and that may be what's troublesome for some griz fans.

No, my comments were completely right. Let me know if you want to debate any of them.

I don't agree that Choate comes off great in interviews. He doesn't bother me, and I like him, but you must have your Cat colored glasses on.

From what I've heard, recruits and families like Hauck better than Choate, by the way.

Do you think recruits watch the interviews of the coaches?

How in the hell could you possibly evaluate how Choate comes across in an presser, you don't listen to coaches pressers.

Just show how much you are full of bu!!sh!t
 
I have not missed the point. See the last quote excerpted from 2506 ( presented in beautiful bobcat blue font to give you even more positive reinforcement compliments after the big win last saturday).

wbtfg said:
Proud Griz Man said:
great post and it 100% describes the Bobby Hauck that I know.
2506 and other cat trolls don't listen effectively, as he gave MSU sufficient credit for their win. Do they go back and nit-pick the post-game comments of SEMO and BSC coaches who lost to MSU and go to their message boards with gripes? No. <-- Bobby Hauck obsession ??

I think you're somewhat missing the point of the initial post. Obviously Cat fans aren't giving Bobby the benefit of the doubt at any point. Just as the "Choach/Chode" crowd isn't going to give Jeff Choate the benefit of the doubt. That said, I think the comments in the initial post focus on media interaction/availability/candidness, etc. as well as overall perception in advancing the UM brand as a whole.

If I were a sports journalist, I think it would be extremely difficult to cover UM football because bobby doesn't give you anything...I think Colter would 2nd that emotion.

Mike and Brint, feel free to jump in if I'm misinterpreting.

In media appearances he comes across as an arrogant, narcissistic snide prick. He appears overbearing and controlling on his players. If you don't feel comfortable letting a Senior QB talk to the press without your supervision I think something has gone wrong. You don't have to give away your gameplan to show some respect to the opponent by acknowledging their playmakers and coaches abilities. I highly doubt if coaches watch each others press conferences or would take any stock in them any way. Short condescending answers to the press do nothing to further your program or to advance your cause. The point is that many of us on this side only base our opinion on his public media appearances, I know many griz fans who admit that Bobby is an asshole, but he wins. IMO Bobby's media appearances are a PR disaster for your program.
 
The.Real.2506 said:
PlayerRep said:
Bear Spray said:
The.Real.2506 said:
I always try to find out as much as I can about the opponent, you think that is weird?

Maybe that is why you come across as someone that doesn't know what they are talking about most of the time. :thumb:

Wow PlayerRep, your comments are off base even for you. Giving an honest opinion from the other side isn't a bad thing - most would gain some perspective of how Bobby's seen without maroon colored glasses. I too watch pressers - and while I never played the interviewer game - I think I can comment here. Bobby is a different man today than he was 10 years ago, who isn't? But Bobby sowed some sour seeds back then, and some folks still remember - most of us do. While he's softened the message to the outside world there's something about his demeanor in the pressers that's irritating. If you're a parent/kid looking at these, Choate's likable and Bobby, well, he's not. That's not an arrogant or stupid statement, it's a fact. When recruits and parents are looking at these interviews, they see two completely different personalities and that may be what's troublesome for some griz fans.

No, my comments were completely right. Let me know if you want to debate any of them.

I don't agree that Choate comes off great in interviews. He doesn't bother me, and I like him, but you must have your Cat colored glasses on.

From what I've heard, recruits and families like Hauck better than Choate, by the way.

Do you think recruits watch the interviews of the coaches?

How in the hell could you possibly evaluate how Choate comes across in an presser, you don't listen to coaches pressers.

Just show how much you are full of bu!!sh!t

I see clips of Choate on tv all the time. Have no clue where the clips come from. You seem to think post-game pressers are the only time coaches talk to the public. How dumb are you.
 
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