-
Hi Guest, want to participate in the discussions, keep track of read/unread posts access private forums and more? Create your free account and increase the benefits of your eGriz.com experience today!
OFFICIAL FIRE DELANEY THREAD
- Thread starter Greenacres Griz
- Start date
LongTimeCatFan said:
It is not that the Griz deserve to win every game, they should be able to have a chance to win every game and with some of the play calling it is reducing that chance and even handicapping the Griz. I think Delaney is a great position coach, not a head coach. I hope the Griz go at least 9-3 or make a run and go 10-2,
however, even with the remaining schedule they could go worse if the players and coaches don't figure some things out fast.LongTimeCatFan
Well-known member
1Griz_Fan said:LongTimeCatFan said:
It is not that the Griz deserve to win every game, they should be able to have a chance to win every game and with some of the play calling it is reducing that chance and even handicapping the Griz. I think Delaney is a great position coach, not a head coach. I hope the Griz go at least 9-3 or make a run and go 10-2,
Your play calling is fine except NAU. If your OL would be blockers instead of jelly roll oafs, ya might keep ahead of the sticks and sustain some drives. That's not play calling.
I'm sorry, but can we please stop with the "Griz can't beat good teams" crap? Whether they're 6-1 or 1-6 the team still needs to come out and win. I mean, Duke beat Virginia Tech today. Ole Miss beat LSU last week. Miami nearly got upset by Wake Forest. Cal Poly lost to an Ivy League school yet nearly beat us last week.grizchamp said:
Jesus, I know people are frustrated with the play calling, me included, but coming from you, we should be 0-8 at this point having lost to OPSU along the way.
LongTimeCatFan
Well-known member
grizchamp said:
What are you talking about. We only beat you by 6? last year, in your worst season in 25 years. If earle the pearl or hysell were coaching you, we'd have blown you out.
grizchamp said:
:roll:
LongTimeCatFan
Well-known member
grizchamp said:
Ok, well clearly you don't understand the concept of football so I'll quit arguing with you. DeNarius is one of 14 all level college players of all time to reach 10k yards passing AND 1k yards rushing. Yeah, right, he's over-rated..... Ummmm hmmmmm
curiousobserver
Active member
For those of you who seem to have forgotten, even though it has only been three months ago (today), here’s a brief refresher for you:
“UNIVERSITY OF MONTANA PUBLIC INFRACTIONS REPORT JULY 26, 2013 (Pages 1-2)
This case involved major infractions of NCAA legislation committed by athletics representatives and a secondary violation committed by an institutional employee, with attendant failures to monitor by the institution and the head coach. As a result, the committee concludes that the following principal penalties, most of which were self-imposed by the institution and adopted by the committee, are appropriate: three years of probation, a limit of 59 equivalency grants-in-aid in football during the 2014-15 through 2016-17 academic years, restrictions on the head coach's duties at his current employing institution, a vacation of football wins, as well as other appropriate penalties as detailed in the penalty section of this report.”
Coach Delaney inherited a mess the day he accepted the Interim Head Football Coach position at the University of Montana in late March of 2012. He knew that, as did everyone else, but he took the job anyway because he got the call. He was retired; he wasn’t seeking the job. It was unknown what the ramifications of that mess would be because the size of the mess had not yet been defined by the NCAA. He took the job anyway.
Subsequent to that, after the 2012 season, he still did not know the outcome of the NCAA investigation. He could have walked away then and basically said, “I’ve done all I can do here. I got UM through the worst part of this mess and now I am walking away and back into retirement. Good luck!” But he didn’t. He stayed on to continue to see through the recovery process for a second year. He had some turnover on his staff but he brought in or promoted replacements and moved on. His recruiting was successful in spite of everything that had been going on.
Three months ago, about sixteen months after he took the UM job on an interim basis and one year after he was named the UM Head Football Coach on a permanent basis by receiving a two year contract, he finally learned what he and the university were going to have to deal with regarding the NCAA sanctions. They are summarized above.
Did he bitch and moan about them? No. Did he say “Screw this, I’ll finish out this year because I am stuck with this mess but as soon as the season ends, I’m out of here.” No. He went back to work to try to do the best he could with the UM football program given the hand he had been dealt – three years’ probation, which began immediately, and the loss of four scholarships per year for each of the next three years starting in 2014.
In the meantime, he has been the steadying influence that was desperately needed within that program. He has righted the ship while having to continue to bail water. The off-the-field stuff has been getting better and will continue to do so. He has kept the football program not only competitive but nationally ranked. For those of you only concerned about winning games, the Griz will likely finish 3-1 or 4-0, make the playoffs and make to at least the quarterfinals. For those of you who ‘get it’, you realize what a fine job he has done since he has been the Griz football coach and therefore you realize he is the best choice to continue on in that position for the next two years, if he wants to, while the football program gets through the NCAA probationary period. At that point, most of the NCAA issues will be behind the football program (there will still be one year of reduced scholarships) and that job will be much more attractive to candidates from around the nation than it is now and will be for the next two years.
At that point, Griz Nation can collectively thank Coach Delaney for everything he did for the football program during four very difficult seasons. Unless, of course, he happens to win the national championship before then and tells all of you naysayers to kiss his ass as he walks out the door. He wouldn’t do that but he would certainly have every right to.
Someday you naysayers might (I doubt it but who knows, maybe you will) recognize everything he is doing now to help the Griz football program to be as successful as it can be during the ‘sanction era’. There’s a whole lot more to being the Head Football Coach at the University of Montana during this era than just winning games. If you don’t understand that, look to the east of Missoula about two hundred miles and see what Rob Ash has done with the MSU football program in the past several years. He was brought in to clean up their football mess and winning games was not and still is not his highest priority, yet he seems to be doing quite well in that area. His first couple or three years he was a slightly over .500 coach because he, too, was having to continue to bail water while trying to right the ship. He had much bigger issues to deal with than winning games. He got it done and Delaney will too.
Many of you seem to have conveniently forgotten about the NCAA sanctions and all of their ramifications, just because the NCAA is no longer in town. It doesn’t work that way – sorry to have to be the one to break that to you. If you have ever had a job where you inherited your predecessor’s mess, then you know, in general terms, what a thankless job that becomes – you are responsible for fixing someone else’s screw ups even though you had no hand in creating them. It’s called playing the hand you are dealt. That’s what Delaney is doing and instead of screaming for his termination, you should be thanking the man for having the guts to step into the breach and take on the challenge for the good of the university and its football program. He is doing a fine job.
“UNIVERSITY OF MONTANA PUBLIC INFRACTIONS REPORT JULY 26, 2013 (Pages 1-2)
This case involved major infractions of NCAA legislation committed by athletics representatives and a secondary violation committed by an institutional employee, with attendant failures to monitor by the institution and the head coach. As a result, the committee concludes that the following principal penalties, most of which were self-imposed by the institution and adopted by the committee, are appropriate: three years of probation, a limit of 59 equivalency grants-in-aid in football during the 2014-15 through 2016-17 academic years, restrictions on the head coach's duties at his current employing institution, a vacation of football wins, as well as other appropriate penalties as detailed in the penalty section of this report.”
Coach Delaney inherited a mess the day he accepted the Interim Head Football Coach position at the University of Montana in late March of 2012. He knew that, as did everyone else, but he took the job anyway because he got the call. He was retired; he wasn’t seeking the job. It was unknown what the ramifications of that mess would be because the size of the mess had not yet been defined by the NCAA. He took the job anyway.
Subsequent to that, after the 2012 season, he still did not know the outcome of the NCAA investigation. He could have walked away then and basically said, “I’ve done all I can do here. I got UM through the worst part of this mess and now I am walking away and back into retirement. Good luck!” But he didn’t. He stayed on to continue to see through the recovery process for a second year. He had some turnover on his staff but he brought in or promoted replacements and moved on. His recruiting was successful in spite of everything that had been going on.
Three months ago, about sixteen months after he took the UM job on an interim basis and one year after he was named the UM Head Football Coach on a permanent basis by receiving a two year contract, he finally learned what he and the university were going to have to deal with regarding the NCAA sanctions. They are summarized above.
Did he bitch and moan about them? No. Did he say “Screw this, I’ll finish out this year because I am stuck with this mess but as soon as the season ends, I’m out of here.” No. He went back to work to try to do the best he could with the UM football program given the hand he had been dealt – three years’ probation, which began immediately, and the loss of four scholarships per year for each of the next three years starting in 2014.
In the meantime, he has been the steadying influence that was desperately needed within that program. He has righted the ship while having to continue to bail water. The off-the-field stuff has been getting better and will continue to do so. He has kept the football program not only competitive but nationally ranked. For those of you only concerned about winning games, the Griz will likely finish 3-1 or 4-0, make the playoffs and make to at least the quarterfinals. For those of you who ‘get it’, you realize what a fine job he has done since he has been the Griz football coach and therefore you realize he is the best choice to continue on in that position for the next two years, if he wants to, while the football program gets through the NCAA probationary period. At that point, most of the NCAA issues will be behind the football program (there will still be one year of reduced scholarships) and that job will be much more attractive to candidates from around the nation than it is now and will be for the next two years.
At that point, Griz Nation can collectively thank Coach Delaney for everything he did for the football program during four very difficult seasons. Unless, of course, he happens to win the national championship before then and tells all of you naysayers to kiss his ass as he walks out the door. He wouldn’t do that but he would certainly have every right to.
Someday you naysayers might (I doubt it but who knows, maybe you will) recognize everything he is doing now to help the Griz football program to be as successful as it can be during the ‘sanction era’. There’s a whole lot more to being the Head Football Coach at the University of Montana during this era than just winning games. If you don’t understand that, look to the east of Missoula about two hundred miles and see what Rob Ash has done with the MSU football program in the past several years. He was brought in to clean up their football mess and winning games was not and still is not his highest priority, yet he seems to be doing quite well in that area. His first couple or three years he was a slightly over .500 coach because he, too, was having to continue to bail water while trying to right the ship. He had much bigger issues to deal with than winning games. He got it done and Delaney will too.
Many of you seem to have conveniently forgotten about the NCAA sanctions and all of their ramifications, just because the NCAA is no longer in town. It doesn’t work that way – sorry to have to be the one to break that to you. If you have ever had a job where you inherited your predecessor’s mess, then you know, in general terms, what a thankless job that becomes – you are responsible for fixing someone else’s screw ups even though you had no hand in creating them. It’s called playing the hand you are dealt. That’s what Delaney is doing and instead of screaming for his termination, you should be thanking the man for having the guts to step into the breach and take on the challenge for the good of the university and its football program. He is doing a fine job.
PlayerRep said:
Fair enough, but why have we struggled against decent teams? My belief is we have the skills to drub mediocre teams, but when faced with any sort of quality, it is a stalemate. For that, I blame the coaches.
Tell me where I am wrong.
...and yes, I have admitted we are at a distinct advantage since we are on coach #3 in the last 4 years.
Robsnotes4u
Well-known member
PhxGriz said:
Fact, you aren't as good as what you perceive you are. Quit making excuses.
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD
Latest posts
-
-
-
-
LadyGriz Did Nate Harris Pull Off a Recruiting Coup?
- Latest: mousegriz1
-