MSU Cupcakes

[Spanky]

Kool....you have a point.

 

[IroneagleXP]

Like most threads involving discussion about MSU, the hypocrisy is overwhelming :thumb:

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Talk about a cupcake game....that is the Bobcat game! Take a gander at the overall record annd even the casual sports fan would conclude it is a cupcake game for the Griz.

So you bash the Cats for playing in a lower division for all those years,but will gladly take those wins for the overall record.

They played the games, right? I mean, MSU counts the Chadron State loss, too, correct?

 

[kemajic]

Talk about a cupcake game....that is the Bobcat game! Take a gander at the overall record annd even the casual sports fan would conclude it is a cupcake game for the Griz.

So you bash the Cats for playing in a lower division for all those years,but will gladly take those wins for the overall record.

They played the games, right? I mean, MSU counts the Chadron State loss, too, correct?

Aa well as Central Washington and Humboldt St.

 

[kemajic]

Spanky, not supporting the Cats at all, but to say playing EWU in a non-conference game instead of scheduling someone else is part of a joke schedule is just stupid no matter how much anyone hates the Cats. If EWU is a joke on MSU's schedule as someone eluded to earlier, than what the hell are the Griz for losing to the Eags the last how many ever times in a row? Again, I clearly stated the Cats' schedule is pretty bad and much, much weaker compared to the Griz. But playing Eastern when they didn't have to is not part of that weak schedule.

The point is not that the EWU game is a cupcake; quite the opposite. Ft. Lewis and E. Tenn St. are cupcakes. EWU is OCC when Montana plays them in conf. every year, while the other MSU "rival" in Fullerton's Folly is UND. Even with a weaker BSC schedule, they chose to schedule only one challenging OOC game. Hauck used to like to do that. There are some similarities in the Ash and BH performances in the playoffs with comfy regular season scheduling.

 

[poorgriz]

Spanky, not supporting the Cats at all, but to say playing EWU in a non-conference game instead of scheduling someone else is part of a joke schedule is just stupid no matter how much anyone hates the Cats. If EWU is a joke on MSU's schedule as someone eluded to earlier, than what the hell are the Griz for losing to the Eags the last how many ever times in a row? Again, I clearly stated the Cats' schedule is pretty bad and much, much weaker compared to the Griz. But playing Eastern when they didn't have to is not part of that weak schedule.

The point is not that the EWU game is a cupcake; quite the opposite. Ft. Lewis and E. Tenn St. are cupcakes. EWU is OCC when Montana plays them in conf. every year, while the other MSU "rival" in Fullerton's Folly is UND. Even with a weaker BSC schedule, they chose to schedule only one challenging OOC game. Hauck used to like to do that. There are some similarities in the Ash and BH performances in the playoffs with comfy regular season scheduling.

Did you not see the earlier post? MSU does not go out and try to schedule cupcakes, just simply does not happen. Sometimes they are a necessary evil. The original plan for 2015 was to play Jacksonville State, but they backed out which caused us to scramble in order to fill the void.

 

[Allezchat]

State college is very happy with the Big Sky as their history is membership in lackluster conferences. When UM actually competed in the Pacific Coast and Skyline conferences, state college belonged to NAIA /Division2 conferences. The Big Sky Conference is big time for the mighty kitty cats.

No, not at all but keep pretending that all we care about is winning the Big Sky, which we've done recently (BS Champs three times in the last five years), whereas the griz can't even win the Big Sky anymore. :lol:

All you guys care about is beating the Griz, which you have not been able to do with regularity since, what, ever? Actually, all you care about is the Griz losing. The Cat fan's order of favorable results is:

1. Griz lose
2. A Griz player gets in trouble
3. NCAA sanctions UM
4. Cats win

You know I hear this from a lot of griz fans and I just saw something recently where a former well known griz player was interviewed and he stated that goal number 1 each year was beating the Cats. secondary was wining the big sky, ect. So put that in your pipe and smoke it.

 

[jodcon]

Spanky, not supporting the Cats at all, but to say playing EWU in a non-conference game instead of scheduling someone else is part of a joke schedule is just stupid no matter how much anyone hates the Cats. If EWU is a joke on MSU's schedule as someone eluded to earlier, than what the hell are the Griz for losing to the Eags the last how many ever times in a row? Again, I clearly stated the Cats' schedule is pretty bad and much, much weaker compared to the Griz. But playing Eastern when they didn't have to is not part of that weak schedule.

The point is not that the EWU game is a cupcake; quite the opposite. Ft. Lewis and E. Tenn St. are cupcakes. EWU is OCC when Montana plays them in conf. every year, while the other MSU "rival" in Fullerton's Folly is UND. Even with a weaker BSC schedule, they chose to schedule only one challenging OOC game. Hauck used to like to do that. There are some similarities in the Ash and BH performances in the playoffs with comfy regular season scheduling.

Did you not see the earlier post? MSU does not go out and try to schedule cupcakes, just simply does not happen. Sometimes they are a necessary evil. The original plan for 2015 was to play Jacksonville State, but they backed out which caused us to scramble in order to fill the void.

So in other words what goes around comes around?

 

[nzone]

Spanky, not supporting the Cats at all, but to say playing EWU in a non-conference game instead of scheduling someone else is part of a joke schedule is just stupid no matter how much anyone hates the Cats. If EWU is a joke on MSU's schedule as someone eluded to earlier, than what the hell are the Griz for losing to the Eags the last how many ever times in a row? Again, I clearly stated the Cats' schedule is pretty bad and much, much weaker compared to the Griz. But playing Eastern when they didn't have to is not part of that weak schedule.

The point is not that the EWU game is a cupcake; quite the opposite. Ft. Lewis and E. Tenn St. are cupcakes. EWU is OCC when Montana plays them in conf. every year, while the other MSU "rival" in Fullerton's Folly is UND. Even with a weaker BSC schedule, they chose to schedule only one challenging OOC game. Hauck used to like to do that. There are some similarities in the Ash and BH performances in the playoffs with comfy regular season scheduling.

Did you not see the earlier post? MSU does not go out and try to schedule cupcakes, just simply does not happen. Sometimes they are a necessary evil. The original plan for 2015 was to play Jacksonville State, but they backed out which caused us to scramble in order to fill the void.

Kind of like ndsu had to do when msu's "business plan" :lol: didn't allow for such competition. :fuel:

 

[CDAGRIZ]

You know I hear this from a lot of griz fans and I just saw something recently where a former well known griz player was interviewed and he stated that goal number 1 each year was beating the Cats. secondary was wining the big sky, ect. So put that in your pipe and smoke it.

Please learn how to use the quote function and put a sticky thread on bobcatville, or whatever your board is called.

Other than that, thanks for stopping by eGriz.com!

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Spanky, not supporting the Cats at all, but to say playing EWU in a non-conference game instead of scheduling someone else is part of a joke schedule is just stupid no matter how much anyone hates the Cats. If EWU is a joke on MSU's schedule as someone eluded to earlier, than what the hell are the Griz for losing to the Eags the last how many ever times in a row? Again, I clearly stated the Cats' schedule is pretty bad and much, much weaker compared to the Griz. But playing Eastern when they didn't have to is not part of that weak schedule.

The point is not that the EWU game is a cupcake; quite the opposite. Ft. Lewis and E. Tenn St. are cupcakes. EWU is OCC when Montana plays them in conf. every year, while the other MSU "rival" in Fullerton's Folly is UND. Even with a weaker BSC schedule, they chose to schedule only one challenging OOC game. Hauck used to like to do that. There are some similarities in the Ash and BH performances in the playoffs with comfy regular season scheduling.

Did you not see the earlier post? MSU does not go out and try to schedule cupcakes, just simply does not happen. Sometimes they are a necessary evil. The original plan for 2015 was to play Jacksonville State, but they backed out which caused us to scramble in order to fill the void.

Kind of like ndsu had to do when msu's "business plan" :lol: didn't allow for such competition. :fuel:

Exactly. Ron Ash's strategy has always been to schedule hapless FCS or DII schools for OOC games. Anyone who says MSU doesn't seek cupcakes is dead wrong. As nzone notes, MSU actively backs down from real opponents in favor of cupcakes. It is a joke of a program with a joke for a coach, and it's a disgrace to the State of Montana that UM is required to host the MSU parasite.

#consolidate
#PAC13

 

[kemajic]

Spanky, not supporting the Cats at all, but to say playing EWU in a non-conference game instead of scheduling someone else is part of a joke schedule is just stupid no matter how much anyone hates the Cats. If EWU is a joke on MSU's schedule as someone eluded to earlier, than what the hell are the Griz for losing to the Eags the last how many ever times in a row? Again, I clearly stated the Cats' schedule is pretty bad and much, much weaker compared to the Griz. But playing Eastern when they didn't have to is not part of that weak schedule.

The point is not that the EWU game is a cupcake; quite the opposite. Ft. Lewis and E. Tenn St. are cupcakes. EWU is OCC when Montana plays them in conf. every year, while the other MSU "rival" in Fullerton's Folly is UND. Even with a weaker BSC schedule, they chose to schedule only one challenging OOC game. Hauck used to like to do that. There are some similarities in the Ash and BH performances in the playoffs with comfy regular season scheduling.

Did you not see the earlier post? MSU does not go out and try to schedule cupcakes, just simply does not happen. Sometimes they are a necessary evil. The original plan for 2015 was to play Jacksonville State, but they backed out which caused us to scramble in order to fill the void.

Ha! You fell into that one hook, line and sinker, as others have pointed out. And I did read the excuse, even if it's true, believing that a program that had not played football in 12 years was the only option did not pass the believability test for me when you have two available dates.

 

[CV Griz Fan]

Well, CV, I saw many of those games when we were in the Skyline Conference. I would rather see us in a true Division 1 conference, rather than the B league of Cupcakes. However, if you are accustomed to seeing us play teams in high school stadiums, to each his own.

I agree with you 100%. I have been clear about the Griz needing to make a move up to FBS. UM needs to set it's goals higher and take their inevitable lumps moving up to face better competition. They'll eventually adjust financially and athletically. The FCS is dying a slow death IMO......

 

[poorgriz]

Spanky, not supporting the Cats at all, but to say playing EWU in a non-conference game instead of scheduling someone else is part of a joke schedule is just stupid no matter how much anyone hates the Cats. If EWU is a joke on MSU's schedule as someone eluded to earlier, than what the hell are the Griz for losing to the Eags the last how many ever times in a row? Again, I clearly stated the Cats' schedule is pretty bad and much, much weaker compared to the Griz. But playing Eastern when they didn't have to is not part of that weak schedule.

The point is not that the EWU game is a cupcake; quite the opposite. Ft. Lewis and E. Tenn St. are cupcakes. EWU is OCC when Montana plays them in conf. every year, while the other MSU "rival" in Fullerton's Folly is UND. Even with a weaker BSC schedule, they chose to schedule only one challenging OOC game. Hauck used to like to do that. There are some similarities in the Ash and BH performances in the playoffs with comfy regular season scheduling.

Did you not see the earlier post? MSU does not go out and try to schedule cupcakes, just simply does not happen. Sometimes they are a necessary evil. The original plan for 2015 was to play Jacksonville State, but they backed out which caused us to scramble in order to fill the void.

Ha! You fell into that one hook, line and sinker, as others have pointed out. And I did read the excuse, even if it's true, believing that a program that had not played football in 12 years was the only option did not pass the believability test for me when you have two available dates.

Well then you must not understand the scheduling challenges all teams face at the FCS level very well then. If it was easy, UM wouldn't have to feast on at least one cupcake game each year. Furthermore, the MSU schedules have been tougher then um schedules over the past decade or so, on average..... so all this talk about MSU going out of the way to ensure a cupcake schedule is really stupid talk.

 

[wbtfg]

Do you know who else has a weak cupcake non conference schedule this year? Alabama. So MSU is pretty much the Alabama of FCS. Right?

#rolltidycat

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Well then you must not understand the scheduling challenges all teams face at the FCS level very well then. If it was easy, UM wouldn't have to feast on at least one cupcake game each year. Furthermore, the MSU schedules have been tougher then um schedules over the past decade or so, on average..... so all this talk about MSU going out of the way to ensure a cupcake schedule is really stupid talk.

Haha! Hilarious in light of the fact that MSU actively backs out of commitments to ensure just that! That program is filled with so much ironic fail that I'm surprised Ron Ash can even find enough players willing to suit up.

 

[flatbed]

Spanky, you said kool had a point/ Griz fans that beat their chest about brawl record would do good to check and see what it is as equally funded/classified football programs-- seems like it shouldn't be, but it's pretty equal

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Spanky, you said kool had a point/ Griz fans that beat their chest about brawl record would do good to check and see what it is as equally funded/classified football programs-- seems like it shouldn't be, but it's pretty equal

Cat fans can make all the excuses they want. They can slice data however they want. They can decide to only count certain years. They can count three-way ties for third as conference championships. They can go Uncle Rico about shit that never happened in '84. They can try to explain away their stupid helmets, their ridiculously average coach, and their tendency to break commitments whilst touting the importance of commitment when it benefits them (like a child would). None of this, and I mean none of this, changes the undeniable and immutable fact that MSU is, and ALWAYS will be, lil' bro.

That is what makes it so funny to see Cat fans constantly posting on eGriz seeking validation. It's like the Ugly Duckling except it never becomes a swan. It's just an ugly fucking duckling, swimming around in a shit pond.

 

[Spanky]

Kool's comments made me think we should more closely look at the Griz-cat head to head record from the year the Big Sky Conference was organized. Was it 1963? What is the head to head record to date from the beginning of the Big Sky? Kem?

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Kool's comments made me think we should more closely look at the Griz-cat head to head record from the year the Big Sky Conference was organized. Was it 1963? What is the head to head record to date from the beginning of the Big Sky? Kem?

Visual count (subject to errors) has UM leading 30-22 since 1963, and winning 25 of the last 30.
MSU has not led the series in the last 105 years.