First off, I have NEVER said the Cats embarrassed anybody or anything. It's not embarrassing to get thumped by a superior football team and that's what happened to the Cats against Sam Houston State. I think the reason a select few Griz posters are saying that is, MANY Cat fans have come on this board and said the same trash about the Griz in CLOSE losses in the national championship game in year's past. Also, it looks bad when a select few Cat fans start saying "we actually played them tough, or close" after the Cats just got soundly beat, 34-16. To say that, on EGRIZ and not expect a negative reaction is pretty naive.
But back to the original point, which was, ALL OF THE STUFF, as you like to point out, i.e, Donaldson, Pflu and O'day, tazer incident, NCAA investigation, didn't knock the Griz off the tracks. After 11 games, it's pretty obvious that it was ONE thing this season, and that's JJ. Not all the rest, including Delaney's short-coming's during games. The rest of that crap didn't have isht to do with the Griz struggling in 2012. Take JJ, and dare I say Nate Montana off the Griz, and you get 5-6. Have both of them, and all the rest of the problems, and the Griz at the very least make the playoffs, and probably better. Yes, it's all hindsight, but I'm just pointing out that while you like to pile on as to why the Griz struggled, most of your reasons actually have little to do with why they struggled.[/quote
I only came on here to post in response that the Cat's were an embarassment this year. An 11-2 record, Big Sky co-champions and going to the qtr finals is NOT an embarassment. I did not say the Griz are in decline. I did say the Big Sky is a a much tougher conference now and no team is going to dominate in the future like you guys did in the past. I think that is realistic based on the great improvement in many programs and the new teams added. And yes Havgrizfan, I agree that if you had JJ and Phlu you would have had a much better team. But not having those people was part of the turmoil that happened this past year and knocked you off the tracks. If those things didn't happen you would have had them. So, it was part of the problem.
To the few morons on here that keep saying the Cats were an embarassment, you need to look honestly at your own program this year and the negative media it generated. It wasn't good. Take the blinders off. If you were not embarassed by everything that happened and is going on then you have a real problem. Just say'in!
