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I Like QB Britt

hubcap said:
I would LOVE to be the Defensive Coordinator that gets to game plan against Brown. Would be the easiest week of prep I'd ever have to put in. I'd most likely have time to slip down to Cabo for a few days.

I'd be interested in seeing what the athletic department intern, assigned to monitor egriz, does when he notices that a person connected to the no. 3 qb is on egriz dissing the no. 2 qb. Bad form.
 
Griz Addict said:
grizghost said:
...so true! I think Bobby and Co..are outdated in their philosophy to young QBs (and others)...Vandals QB is a
frosh and is doing quite well..Mellot took the Cats to the NC...so I think its time to put forward your best guys
or loose (3) in a row..

Britt could have been the game changer but we will never know...great Coaches can adapt and take chances to
win the big games...I have not seen that from the Hauck Co...yet! Would Dave Dickenson been the Great if Hauck
were coaching?

Saban's gutsy call when he pulled Jaren Hurts on prime time to take the chance with a unproven back up
to win the Crown...its called being great or okay! Hauck would have not made that call!

So when we are within a score of a top 5 team we should throw a 3rd string qb out there and see what happens? That would be the dumbest coaching move of all time. Most likely doesn't have the playbook 100% down and could easily throw some ints and end up getting beat by a lot more. God, half you guys don't have a brain. Swear to jeebus...

Isn't this exactly what Hauck did last year against JMU when Brown obviously wasn't getting it done?
 
Griz2k said:
Griz Addict said:
So when we are within a score of a top 5 team we should throw a 3rd string qb out there and see what happens? That would be the dumbest coaching move of all time. Most likely doesn't have the playbook 100% down and could easily throw some ints and end up getting beat by a lot more. God, half you guys don't have a brain. Swear to jeebus...

Isn't this exactly what Hauck did last year against JMU when Brown obviously wasn't getting it done?

I don't think a frosh qb with only 1 game of experience was inserted.
 
mthoopsfan said:
I wonder if the coaches even watch or pay attention to the QB's in practice. I wonder what Hauck means when he says there's a reason that players are where they are on the depth chart?

I think that this is probably more the issue than actual skill. There is no doubt that athletically Britt is superior. He is a gamer, intense, competitive, certainly faster. Likely this is knowing playbook, understanding defenses, or maybe something we just don't know about. There is no doubt I'd rather see Britt at #2 based on Brown's full body of work thus far. I mean, what could it hurt? Maybe a turnover, maybe a bonehead play, but how much different is that in the end vs 114 yards of total offense? I get the close game theory...was in spite of how he was playing, not because of...so I agree he should've at least been given the chance to show something to spark the team offensively. As I mentioned before, there have been a lot of "sparks" throughout history...including one Super Dave. Just why not is my question...
 
mthoopsfan said:
hubcap said:
I would LOVE to be the Defensive Coordinator that gets to game plan against Brown. Would be the easiest week of prep I'd ever have to put in. I'd most likely have time to slip down to Cabo for a few days.

I'd be interested in seeing what the athletic department intern, assigned to monitor egriz, does when he notices that a person connected to the no. 3 qb is on egriz dissing the no. 2 qb. Bad form.

He ain't wrong though.
 
mthoopsfan said:
Griz2k said:
Isn't this exactly what Hauck did last year against JMU when Brown obviously wasn't getting it done?

I don't think a frosh qb with only 1 game of experience was inserted.

Hauck inserted the 3rd string QB that for all intents and purposes, was no more proven than Daniel Britt and there was a hell of a lot more on the line in that game. And by no means is this a slam against Patterson in any way, shape, or form. Just pointing out a fact, and I am of the opinion that it would have hurt nothing to but Britt in against Weber.
 
I have been a big Britt fan since he led liberty past Bishop Gorman. He played against a lot of great competition in highschool and is a gamer.
 
Griz2k said:
mthoopsfan said:
I don't think a frosh qb with only 1 game of experience was inserted.

Hauck inserted the 3rd string QB that for all intents and purposes, was no more proven than Daniel Britt and there was a hell of a lot more on the line in that game. And by no means is this a slam against Patterson in any way, shape, or form. Just pointing out a fact, and I am of the opinion that it would have hurt nothing to but Britt in against Weber.

The Griz used Bergen against Weber. He was a or the 3d teamer.
 
mthoopsfan said:
Griz2k said:
Hauck inserted the 3rd string QB that for all intents and purposes, was no more proven than Daniel Britt and there was a hell of a lot more on the line in that game. And by no means is this a slam against Patterson in any way, shape, or form. Just pointing out a fact, and I am of the opinion that it would have hurt nothing to but Britt in against Weber.

The Griz used Bergen against Weber. He was a or the 3d teamer.

The only reason they used Bergen as a wildcat QB against Weber is because he was limited as a receiver. They tried to get the playmaker some plays, not necessarily play a traditional QB.
 
Griz2k said:
mthoopsfan said:
I don't think a frosh qb with only 1 game of experience was inserted.

Hauck inserted the 3rd string QB that for all intents and purposes, was no more proven than Daniel Britt and there was a hell of a lot more on the line in that game. And by no means is this a slam against Patterson in any way, shape, or form. Just pointing out a fact, and I am of the opinion that it would have hurt nothing to but Britt in against Weber.

Patterson had way more experience. 2 years of UM spring ball and one year starting in college.

“ Saddleback (2018): Passed for 2,575 yards and 20 touchdowns freshman year at Saddleback … Two-time Southern California Football Association Player of the Week ... Led team to JUCO conference championship … Named first-team all-conference… Patriot bowl MVP… Voted by teammates as Saddleback Player of the Year”
 
Griz2k said:
mthoopsfan said:
I don't think a frosh qb with only 1 game of experience was inserted.

Hauck inserted the 3rd string QB that for all intents and purposes, was no more proven than Daniel Britt and there was a hell of a lot more on the line in that game. And by no means is this a slam against Patterson in any way, shape, or form. Just pointing out a fact, and I am of the opinion that it would have hurt nothing to but Britt in against Weber.

in a game against idaho, after they'd gone up to fbs (1-a?), hauck used a kid named sampson, who was a high school qb, to run what was basically the option, if i remember correctly. the griz won the game with style. sampson transferred the next year, or maybe the year after. anyway, hauck has indeed used qb's based on their gamesmanship, not seniority, etc...
 
AZDoc said:
mthoopsfan said:
I wonder if the coaches even watch or pay attention to the QB's in practice. I wonder what Hauck means when he says there's a reason that players are where they are on the depth chart?

I think that this is probably more the issue than actual skill. There is no doubt that athletically Britt is superior. He is a gamer, intense, competitive, certainly faster. Likely this is knowing playbook, understanding defenses, or maybe something we just don't know about. There is no doubt I'd rather see Britt at #2 based on Brown's full body of work thus far. I mean, what could it hurt? Maybe a turnover, maybe a bonehead play, but how much different is that in the end vs 114 yards of total offense? I get the close game theory...was in spite of how he was playing, not because of...so I agree he should've at least been given the chance to show something to spark the team offensively. As I mentioned before, there have been a lot of "sparks" throughout history...including one Super Dave. Just why not is my question...

Super Dave didn't come in during a close and important conference game.
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
mthoopsfan said:
The Griz used Bergen against Weber. He was a or the 3d teamer.

The only reason they used Bergen as a wildcat QB against Weber is because he was limited as a receiver. They tried to get the playmaker some plays, not necessarily play a traditional QB.

That's not true. I was at practice two weeks ago, saw Bergen getting reps at qb, and talked to some on the sideline. I was told they wanted a change up for Brown. What you said may also be true. But it was certainly not the "only" reason. Why do people just make up stuff?
 
mthoopsfan said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
The only reason they used Bergen as a wildcat QB against Weber is because he was limited as a receiver. They tried to get the playmaker some plays, not necessarily play a traditional QB.

That's not true. I was at practice last week, saw Bergen getting reps at qb, and talked to some on the sideline. I was told they wanted a change up for Brown. What you said may also be true. But it was certainly not the "only" reason. Why do people just make up stuff?

A change up for Brown was Bergen getting some wildcat snaps. They wanted to get Bergen snaps because he was limited as a receiver that week because of his hand. Had zero to do with trying to make Bergen the backup QB.
 
mthoopsfan said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
The only reason they used Bergen as a wildcat QB against Weber is because he was limited as a receiver. They tried to get the playmaker some plays, not necessarily play a traditional QB.

That's not true. I was at practice last week, saw Bergen getting reps at qb, and talked to some on the sideline. I was told they wanted a change up for Brown. What you said may also be true. But it was certainly not the "only" reason. Why do people just make up stuff?

Talk about making stuff up...Bergen wasn't getting reps as QB. He was getting reps as an extra runner in the wildcat - a formation designed well after your time in leather helmets. Not once...not even close to once was Bergen ever going to throw the ball... Why do you insist on talking about things that you know so little about?
 
SoldierGriz said:
mthoopsfan said:
That's not true. I was at practice last week, saw Bergen getting reps at qb, and talked to some on the sideline. I was told they wanted a change up for Brown. What you said may also be true. But it was certainly not the "only" reason. Why do people just make up stuff?

Talk about making stuff up...Bergen wasn't getting reps as QB. He was getting reps as an extra runner in the wildcat - a formation designed well after your time in leather helmets. Not once...not even close to once was Bergen ever going to throw the ball... Why do you insist on talking about things that you know so little about?

I was there, talked to people, and saw no. 5 running with the qb's. I saw no special wildcat plays being put in. Just regular qb plays. It doesn't matter whether he was running or throwing; he could have done either. His left hand was injured, not his right. In any event, HHH said he played only to get more reps for a play-making, which was not true. When you weren't at practice, don't know any coaches, and didn't talk to anyone, why do you even speak up. My god.

Bergen is 1-1 passing this year.
 
mthoopsfan said:
SoldierGriz said:
Talk about making stuff up...Bergen wasn't getting reps as QB. He was getting reps as an extra runner in the wildcat - a formation designed well after your time in leather helmets. Not once...not even close to once was Bergen ever going to throw the ball... Why do you insist on talking about things that you know so little about?

I was there, talked to people, and saw no. 5 running with the qb's. I saw no special wildcat plays being put in. Just regular qb plays. It doesn't matter whether he was running or throwing; he could have done either. His left hand was injured, not his right. In any event, HHH said he played only to get more reps for a play-making, which was not true. When you weren't at practice, don't know any coaches, and didn't talk to anyone, why do you even speak up. My god.

Bergen is 1-1 passing this year.

Soooo clueless. You are embarrassing yourself, as usual.
 
mthoopsfan said:
Griz2k said:
Isn't this exactly what Hauck did last year against JMU when Brown obviously wasn't getting it done?

I don't think a frosh qb with only 1 game of experience was inserted.

Patterson was a redshirt Soph. I also think most of his game experience was on coverage teams. He threw all of six passes that season before being inserted in the JMadison Game. Bobby's explanation was that they were looking for a "spark" if memory serves. Also something I think was potentially needed in the weebs game given they landed on about 114 yards of total offense. 70 or so yards of that came in the first half.
 
Bok_Choi said:
mthoopsfan said:
I don't think a frosh qb with only 1 game of experience was inserted.

Patterson was a redshirt Soph. I also think most of his game experience was on coverage teams. He threw all of six passes that season before being inserted in the JMadison Game. Bobby's explanation was that they were looking for a "spark" if memory serves. Also something I think was potentially needed in the weebs game given they landed on about 114 yards of total offense. 70 or so yards of that came in the first half.

Yep.
 
Griz2k said:
mthoopsfan said:
I don't think a frosh qb with only 1 game of experience was inserted.

Hauck inserted the 3rd string QB that for all intents and purposes, was no more proven than Daniel Britt and there was a hell of a lot more on the line in that game. And by no means is this a slam against Patterson in any way, shape, or form. Just pointing out a fact, and I am of the opinion that it would have hurt nothing to but Britt in against Weber.

That game was already getting out of reach, that's why. It wasn't within a td. That was "we are going to lose if we don't try" vs "we could still win with him in"
 
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