I Like QB Britt

[SoldierGriz]

That's not true. I was at practice last week, saw Bergen getting reps at qb, and talked to some on the sideline. I was told they wanted a change up for Brown. What you said may also be true. But it was certainly not the "only" reason. Why do people just make up stuff?

A change up for Brown was Bergen getting some wildcat snaps. They wanted to get Bergen snaps because he was limited as a receiver that week because of his hand. Had zero to do with trying to make Bergen the backup QB.

Yep.

 

[Griz2k]

Hauck inserted the 3rd string QB that for all intents and purposes, was no more proven than Daniel Britt and there was a hell of a lot more on the line in that game. And by no means is this a slam against Patterson in any way, shape, or form. Just pointing out a fact, and I am of the opinion that it would have hurt nothing to but Britt in against Weber.

That game was already getting out of reach, that's why. It wasn't within a td. That was "we are going to lose if we don't try" vs "we could still win with him in"

It was 14-3 when Patterson entered to start the 2nd half. Not trying to argue with you, just saying it's the same scenario people are asking about during the Weber game. Griz absolutely needed a spark and something different to happen. Not saying things would have worked out differently if Britt had played, but we'll obviously never know.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

That game was already getting out of reach, that's why. It wasn't within a td. That was "we are going to lose if we don't try" vs "we could still win with him in"

It was 14-3 when Patterson entered to start the 2nd half. Not trying to argue with you, just saying it's the same scenario people are asking about during the Weber game. Griz absolutely needed a spark and something different to happen. Not saying things would have worked out differently if Britt had played, but we'll obviously never know.

Not the same scenario. The season wasn't over after the Weber game, it was after the JMU game. You are willing to gamble more when the end is near.

 

[grizghost]

...so true! I think Bobby and Co..are outdated in their philosophy to young QBs (and others)...Vandals QB is a
frosh and is doing quite well..Mellot took the Cats to the NC...so I think its time to put forward your best guys
or loose (3) in a row..

Britt could have been the game changer but we will never know...great Coaches can adapt and take chances to
win the big games...I have not seen that from the Hauck Co...yet! Would Dave Dickenson been the Great if Hauck
were coaching?

Saban's gutsy call when he pulled Jaren Hurts on prime time to take the chance with a unproven back up
to win the Crown...its called being great or okay! Hauck would have not made that call!

So when we are within a score of a top 5 team we should throw a 3rd string qb out there and see what happens? That would be the dumbest coaching move of all time. Most likely doesn't have the playbook 100% down and could easily throw some ints and end up getting beat by a lot more. God, half you guys don't have a brain. Swear to jeebus...

Really?....have you looked around the FBS/FCS and see Freshman QB's playing...he doesn't need to know 100%
of the play book to be effective...give me 75%...hes got fire!..and sometimes that's what a team needs...
Tommy Mellot took the Cats to the NC knowing one play...QB run! Cut me a break you dumb-a$$..

 

[hubcap]

Talk about making stuff up...Bergen wasn't getting reps as QB. He was getting reps as an extra runner in the wildcat - a formation designed well after your time in leather helmets. Not once...not even close to once was Bergen ever going to throw the ball... Why do you insist on talking about things that you know so little about?

I was there, talked to people, and saw no. 5 running with the qb's. I saw no special wildcat plays being put in. Just regular qb plays. It doesn't matter whether he was running or throwing; he could have done either. His left hand was injured, not his right. In any event, HHH said he played only to get more reps for a play-making, which was not true. When you weren't at practice, don't know any coaches, and didn't talk to anyone, why do you even speak up. My god.

Bergen is 1-1 passing this year.

I talked to an offensive player that week of practice and he said they were putting in the wildcat with Bergen. His exact words. You should have paid attention when you were at the practice! You do know what the wildcat is……right? I just assumed you did because, you know, you played the game.

 

[mthoopsfan]

So when we are within a score of a top 5 team we should throw a 3rd string qb out there and see what happens? That would be the dumbest coaching move of all time. Most likely doesn't have the playbook 100% down and could easily throw some ints and end up getting beat by a lot more. God, half you guys don't have a brain. Swear to jeebus...

Really?....have you looked around the FBS/FCS and see Freshman QB's playing...he doesn't need to know 100%
of the play book to be effective...give me 75%...hes got fire!..and sometimes that's what a team needs...
Tommy Mellot took the Cats to the NC knowing one play...QB run! Cut me a break you dumb-a$$..

Virtually all, if not all, of the frosh playing now were getting many or most of the snaps during pre-season and during the season so far. Our no. 3 has been only no. 3 snaps, which is not many. Huge difference.

 

[mthoopsfan]

I was there, talked to people, and saw no. 5 running with the qb's. I saw no special wildcat plays being put in. Just regular qb plays. It doesn't matter whether he was running or throwing; he could have done either. His left hand was injured, not his right. In any event, HHH said he played only to get more reps for a play-making, which was not true. When you weren't at practice, don't know any coaches, and didn't talk to anyone, why do you even speak up. My god.

Bergen is 1-1 passing this year.

I talked to an offensive player that week of practice and he said they were putting in the wildcat with Bergen. His exact words. You should have paid attention when you were at the practice! You do know what the wildcat is……right? I just assumed you did because, you know, you played the game.

I saw what plays they ran in several practices. Bergen handed off almost every play. I saw zero plays run as wildcat, as opposed to what they run normally. I also talked to people on the sideline. You said have paid attention when you talked to the player, or maybe he's the one who should be paying attention. Feel free to tell us any special wildcat play that was put in for Bergen. I'm not saying there weren't any, just saying I saw no instruction during the practices and didn't notice any new plays during the game.

 

[GrizSpartan]

I wonder if the coaches even watch or pay attention to the QB's in practice. I wonder what Hauck means when he says there's a reason that players are where they are on the depth chart?

I think that this is probably more the issue than actual skill. There is no doubt that athletically Britt is superior. He is a gamer, intense, competitive, certainly faster. Likely this is knowing playbook, understanding defenses, or maybe something we just don't know about. There is no doubt I'd rather see Britt at #2 based on Brown's full body of work thus far. I mean, what could it hurt? Maybe a turnover, maybe a bonehead play, but how much different is that in the end vs 114 yards of total offense? I get the close game theory...was in spite of how he was playing, not because of...so I agree he should've at least been given the chance to show something to spark the team offensively. As I mentioned before, there have been a lot of "sparks" throughout history...including one Super Dave. Just why not is my question...

I appreciate your write up. I agree with almost all of your thoughts. Thanks for taking the time to write a thoughtful piece. I think Bobby will look at Brown as the next up guy, but may turn to Britt in certain situations. I wouldn't mind the staff putting in 3-5 plays with him running the ship. Didn't see much of his passing skills, though the ones he threw were well done.

Go Griz.

 

[AZDoc]

I think that this is probably more the issue than actual skill. There is no doubt that athletically Britt is superior. He is a gamer, intense, competitive, certainly faster. Likely this is knowing playbook, understanding defenses, or maybe something we just don't know about. There is no doubt I'd rather see Britt at #2 based on Brown's full body of work thus far. I mean, what could it hurt? Maybe a turnover, maybe a bonehead play, but how much different is that in the end vs 114 yards of total offense? I get the close game theory...was in spite of how he was playing, not because of...so I agree he should've at least been given the chance to show something to spark the team offensively. As I mentioned before, there have been a lot of "sparks" throughout history...including one Super Dave. Just why not is my question...

Super Dave didn't come in during a close and important conference game.

Well the point was that at any point someone can come in and put a spark into an offense that had 114 yards of offense. I am not sure why you're being so stubborn on this topic. The offense needed something, and history has shown that sometimes it is a random QB change that can be of spark source, regardless of what the game is. You cannot, honestly sit there and say that the offense was moving the ball and could not have tried anything to help, including change the QB. I agree with you that it was an important game, close game, conference game...but we have seen what Brown can do. And it is not much. I think the question is...why NOT Britt? I'm sure there are other factors like playbook etc, but there needed to be something done there. Moot at this point, but he really should be QB2 and Brown QB1 at Tech.

 

[mthoopsfan]

Super Dave didn't come in during a close and important conference game.

Well the point was that at any point someone can come in and put a spark into an offense that had 114 yards of offense. I am not sure why you're being so stubborn on this topic. The offense needed something, and history has shown that sometimes it is a random QB change that can be of spark source, regardless of what the game is. You cannot, honestly sit there and say that the offense was moving the ball and could not have tried anything to help, including change the QB. I agree with you that it was an important game, close game, conference game...but we have seen what Brown can do. And it is not much. I think the question is...why NOT Britt? I'm sure there are other factors like playbook etc, but there needed to be something done there. Moot at this point, but he really should be QB2 and Brown QB1 at Tech.

I am not sure why you and others think it would be a good idea to put in a completely untested frosh qb who has virtually no playing experience and few reps in practice, in an important game against a top 5. It's not the time for an experiment. I think it would have been coaching malpractice to throw in Britt in that situation. Dickenson wasn't a no. 3 qb, was he? And that wasn't an important game.

Brown also played last year. He played in 12 games. 123.2 efficency 99-152-4 65.1 1029 3 TD's.

Compare that to Britt.

Unless Britt had been getting a ton of reps and showing huge skill in practice, I don't know why you would take out a no. 2 QB in in second year of playing when he wasn't throwing picks, fumbling and making big mistakes. In the Weber game, the receivers were getting beat and beaten up, the o-line was having his worst game, and the rb's were getting tackled by the first defender. It wasn't all Brown's fault. Did you happen to notice what the other 10 players on offense were doing.

 

[Fahque]

Well the point was that at any point someone can come in and put a spark into an offense that had 114 yards of offense. I am not sure why you're being so stubborn on this topic. The offense needed something, and history has shown that sometimes it is a random QB change that can be of spark source, regardless of what the game is. You cannot, honestly sit there and say that the offense was moving the ball and could not have tried anything to help, including change the QB. I agree with you that it was an important game, close game, conference game...but we have seen what Brown can do. And it is not much. I think the question is...why NOT Britt? I'm sure there are other factors like playbook etc, but there needed to be something done there. Moot at this point, but he really should be QB2 and Brown QB1 at Tech.

I am not sure why you and others think it would be a good idea to put in a completely untested frosh qb who has virtually no playing experience and few reps in practice, in an important game against a top 5. It's not the time for an experiment. I think it would have been coaching malpractice to throw in Britt in that situation. Dickenson wasn't a no. 3 qb, was he? And that wasn't an important game.

Brown also played last year. He played in 12 games. 123.2 efficency 99-152-4 65.1 1029 3 TD's.

Compare that to Britt.

Unless Britt had been getting a ton of reps and showing huge skill in practice, I don't know why you would take out a no. 2 QB in in second year of playing when he wasn't throwing picks, fumbling and making big mistakes. In the Weber game, the receivers were getting beat and beaten up, the o-line was having his worst game, and the rb's were getting tackled by the first defender. It wasn't all Brown's fault. Did you happen to notice what the other 10 players on offense were doing.

You are either thick or senile and I am guessing a big part of why many people don't post here anymore… We get that Britt does not have a lot of experience. HOWEVER, Brown was way worse than ineffective during the weber game and the ONLY reason that game was even close was because of Flowers' TD on the return. It would not have hurt one single thing to bring in Britt to try to spark something on offense because it was obvious that Brown was not going to spark anything. Watching you post the same crap over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over just because you, God forbid, might have to concede even just a little bit is beyond ridiculous

 

[mthoopsfan]

I am not sure why you and others think it would be a good idea to put in a completely untested frosh qb who has virtually no playing experience and few reps in practice, in an important game against a top 5. It's not the time for an experiment. I think it would have been coaching malpractice to throw in Britt in that situation. Dickenson wasn't a no. 3 qb, was he? And that wasn't an important game.

Brown also played last year. He played in 12 games. 123.2 efficency 99-152-4 65.1 1029 3 TD's.

Compare that to Britt.

Unless Britt had been getting a ton of reps and showing huge skill in practice, I don't know why you would take out a no. 2 QB in in second year of playing when he wasn't throwing picks, fumbling and making big mistakes. In the Weber game, the receivers were getting beat and beaten up, the o-line was having his worst game, and the rb's were getting tackled by the first defender. It wasn't all Brown's fault. Did you happen to notice what the other 10 players on offense were doing.

You are either thick or senile and I am guessing a big part of why many people don't post here anymore… We get that Britt does not have a lot of experience. HOWEVER, Brown was way worse than ineffective during the weber game and the ONLY reason that game was even close was because of Flowers' TD on the return. It would not have hurt one single thing to bring in Britt to try to spark something on offense because it was obvious that Brown was not going to spark anything. Watching you post the same crap over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over just because you, God forbid, might have to concede even just a little bit is beyond ridiculous

I sometimes have to say the same things, because people like you keep saying incorrect things. Why do you keep saying wrong things over and over?

 

[Fahque]

You are either thick or senile and I am guessing a big part of why many people don't post here anymore… We get that Britt does not have a lot of experience. HOWEVER, Brown was way worse than ineffective during the weber game and the ONLY reason that game was even close was because of Flowers' TD on the return. It would not have hurt one single thing to bring in Britt to try to spark something on offense because it was obvious that Brown was not going to spark anything. Watching you post the same crap over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over just because you, God forbid, might have to concede even just a little bit is beyond ridiculous

I sometimes have to say the same things, because people like you keep saying incorrect things. Why do you keep saying wrong things over and over?

So thick?

 

[mthoopsfan]

I sometimes have to say the same things, because people like you keep saying incorrect things. Why do you keep saying wrong things over and over?

So thick?

Because people like you are so stuck on incorrect things and are repetitive.

 

[Fahque]

So thick?

Because people like you are so stuck on incorrect things and are repetitive.

Yep, lest we forget that only you can be right and your opinion is the only one that matters…

 

[RoseyMustGo]

Because people like you are so stuck on incorrect things and are repetitive.

Yep, lest we forget that only you can be right and your opinion is the only one that matters…

Didn't this poster take a long hiatus from posting, because he was butt-hurt over some lady Griz BB issue? Got to think the board was a better place during that time.

 

[Griz Addict]

Maybe Britt just likes to take off and run all the time and can't accurately read a defense. Maybe that's why he's 3rd string. All of it is speculation. Only the coaches know why and they aren't going to tell any of you.. lmao

 

[AZGrizFan]

Maybe Britt just likes to take off and run all the time and can't accurately read a defense. Maybe that's why he's 3rd string. All of it is speculation. Only the coaches know why and they aren't going to tell any of you.. lmao

Well, he’s 6/7 (85% completion) passing for 66 yards (10.1 yards/completion) with 0 INT’s and 0 TD’s in his limited appearances, which would imply that he’s pretty good at taking what the defense gives him. He has 10 carries this year, for a net of 34 yards (3.4/carry). He was 3rd leading rusher Saturday in 13 offensive snaps, which would imply that when he DOES “take off and run” he does a pretty good job of making something out of it. For contrast, Brown has 23 carries for 17 net yards (0.7 ypc). Brown has a 55% completion rate, with 0 INT’s but just 1 TD pass in 65 pass attempts (8.7 yards per completion).

I’m not trying to be a dick, but at what point does it make sense for coaches to look at ACTUAL production and say “maybe this guy ain’t the answer”?

 

[mthoopsfan]

A change up for Brown was Bergen getting some wildcat snaps. They wanted to get Bergen snaps because he was limited as a receiver that week because of his hand. Had zero to do with trying to make Bergen the backup QB.

Yep.

Nope, they also wanted a different alternative/look than Brown. As far as I could tell from practice, they were just practicing regular qb plays. Feel free to point out all the special wildcat plays put in for Bergen.

 

[mthoopsfan]

Yep, lest we forget that only you can be right and your opinion is the only one that matters…

Didn't this poster take a long hiatus from posting, because he was butt-hurt over some lady Griz BB issue? Got to think the board was a better place during that time.

Nope, he just changed his posting name a couple times. The board needs its top posters. The poster RoseyMustGo needs to go.