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I hope those 45 seconds were worth it Jordy

AZGrizFan said:
ilovethecats said:
ALPHAGRIZ1 said:
MrTitleist said:
I suppose by Mining City's rules most of us would be dirtbags.

Also, Pflu*
I know I am after this Vegas trip..................just plain dirty.......:coffee:

hope you saved me some. heading there in a few weeks. course you probab;y spent all week at saphire so i'm sure there is still plenty...

:coffee:

He spent the weekend passed out in bed. Pussy. 8-) 8-)

Where were you Sunday until I got back to my hotel at 6:30am? Oh thats right you were not responding to any text messages....how convenient. If you were ever really there in Vegas that is......I saw nothing to prove otherwise ;)
 
AZGrizFan said:
ilovethecats said:
ALPHAGRIZ1 said:
MrTitleist said:
I suppose by Mining City's rules most of us would be dirtbags.

Also, Pflu*
I know I am after this Vegas trip..................just plain dirty.......:coffee:

hope you saved me some. heading there in a few weeks. course you probab;y spent all week at saphire so i'm sure there is still plenty...

:coffee:

He spent the weekend passed out in bed. Pussy. 8-) 8-)

Carlos, Julio and Juan all gave him a 10 for the landing on the faceplant in front of the mariachi band.....
 
spokaneman said:
GrizPony said:
spokaneman said:
PolsonGrizFan said:
Since when did the Mining Camp become the Mining City? What the hell is going on?

About the same time that a Mining City business built Kerr Dam that gave your piece of SH!T colony some stability!!

Oh the one that went bankrupt and ruined the financial stability of thousands of Montanan's?

Yes.... that one!! :(

Since it's an off trial day I'm compelled...

Thanks to douche bag bob gannon. The final insult to the people of Montana came just days after Touch America announced a second-quarter loss of $30 million dollars. Gannon announced that he and three other executives were going to each receive a $5.4 million dollar payout. But don't worry too much about douche bag bob. He's built himself a $3 million dollar home on Flathead Lake. It's on the North end of Finley Point if anyone would like to pay him a visit.
 
PolsonGrizFan said:
spokaneman said:
GrizPony said:
spokaneman said:
About the same time that a Mining City business built Kerr Dam that gave your piece of SH!T colony some stability!!

Oh the one that went bankrupt and ruined the financial stability of thousands of Montanan's?

Yes.... that one!! :(

Since it's an off trial day I'm compelled...

Thanks to douche bag bob gannon. The final insult to the people of Montana came just days after Touch America announced a second-quarter loss of $30 million dollars. Gannon announced that he and three other executives were going to each receive a $5.4 million dollar payout. But don't worry too much about douche bag bob. He's built himself a $3 million dollar home on Flathead Lake. It's on the North end of Finley Point if anyone would like to pay him a visit.

Leave it to you to ruin a perfectly good thread by bringing a REAL douche bag into it....
 
tnt said:
PolsonGrizFan said:
spokaneman said:
GrizPony said:
Oh the one that went bankrupt and ruined the financial stability of thousands of Montanan's?

Yes.... that one!! :(

Since it's an off trial day I'm compelled...

Thanks to douche bag bob gannon. The final insult to the people of Montana came just days after Touch America announced a second-quarter loss of $30 million dollars. Gannon announced that he and three other executives were going to each receive a $5.4 million dollar payout. But don't worry too much about douche bag bob. He's built himself a $3 million dollar home on Flathead Lake. It's on the North end of Finley Point if anyone would like to pay him a visit.

Leave it to you to ruin a perfectly good thread by bringing a REAL douche bag into it....

:lol: :lol: :lol: no shit
 
havgrizfan said:
Everettgriz' posts in this thread couldn't be more on point.

BOTTOM LINE: the JJ case aside, Guys and girls on college campuses ACROSS AMERICA, including good ole' Montana State University treat each other like shit every single night and morning. It's a fact. IF ANY OF you younger parents out there are disgusted by it and are worried about your kids' future in college, start hammering home celibicy until marriage now, because otherwise, at some point in their 17-22 year-old portion of life, they are probably going to have an emotionally bad experience with the opposite sex.

Doesn't home celebancy happen automatically after marriage?
 
I sincerely doubt that MCGF is originally from Butte, and if they are....they have forfeited the right after moving to FREMONT, CA. That explains the post more than anything.
 
Hello everyone. My name is Griz2k and I'm a dirtbag. When I was in my 20's I had sex with a woman and never called her again. I'm trying to better myself now and just taking it one day at a time. Thanks for all your support everyone.
 
ordigger said:
I sincerely doubt that MCGF is originally from Butte, and if they are....they have forfeited the right after moving to FREMONT, CA. That explains the post more than anything.

Because of the hot tubs, or the meth?
 
This wasn't a hook up. And it wasn't rape.

I too bought the "she offered herself to him and he took her up on the offer."

Had that been the way it actually played out, then I'd be right there with the rest of you condemning a jock sniffing skank that was trying to punish JJ after she found out he had feelings for another girl and wanted revenge.

In THAT scenario I'd have probably done the same thing when I was 20 being that the only thing I enjoyed more than beer were cute drunk girls who were looking for some fun...Been there, done that, glass houses, yada yada yada...

That's not how it played out though.

Side Note: If you're too stupid to click the ALL link on the #johnsontrial twitter feed then you're not getting all of tweets because it filters by "Top" tweets by default.

Again for the few who don't understand the basic premise of my admittedly harsh opinion about Jordan being a dirt bag -- IT'S BASED ON HIS OWN TESTIMONY HE GAVE UNDER OATH ON MONDAY.

I realized this after reading through JORDAN'S OWN WORDS on the following twitter feed:
https://twitter.com/KeilaSzpaller

Johnson: Recalls meeting the alleged victim. It was at the forester's ball 2011. #johnsontrial

He met her at the forester's ball in 2011 -- not in 2012 like I originally had heard.

Johnson: Agrees they exchanged numbers, there was mutual interest. #johnsontrial They communicated by text. No calls.

Johnson: Doesn't remember gist of texts. Just how's school going. At some point they decided to see each other. #johnsontrial

Johnson: He didn't meet her roommate, she didn't meet his. They arranged get togethers through texts. #johnsontrial Movie, icecream, kissing

Johnson: Got together five or six times that spring. Once he tried to unbutton her pants. "She said no, and I stopped." #johnsontrial

Johnson: Saw her once or twice after that, then they went their separate ways for a while. #johnsontrial A little texting, maybe.

So this wasn't a one night hook up, walk of shame the next morning, let's pretend this didn't happen type thing.

He took the time to actually develop a relationship with this girl.

I am NOT saying he should have married the girl at this point, but I am saying it was beyond the "hey I don't know you that well, but we're both here and we're both drunk so let's see what you look like naked..." phase.

Fast forward to the 2011 football season...

Johnson: Woman texted him after one of the games and said good job. He texted her after a party to ask for a ride. #johnsontrial

Johnson: The woman picked him up, took him home. She asked for a tour, and he showed her around. She left. #johnsontrial No kissing, no hug

What in the hell is it with him asking for rides all the time?

Johnson: He believes the next time they talked was around Christmas. In the meantime, he was getting to know another person. #johnsontrial

Johnson: Winter break is five or six weeks, and he went home to spend time with family. kept contact with Kelly (sp) by text.

Johnson: Kept up contact with alleged victim, too, maybe every other day during break. Stopped when school was in session. #johnsontrial

Johnson: Kelly came to visit him and so did a roommate while on break. #johnsontrial

Johnson: He and the woman were texting at the time but it died down when Kelly showed up. He realized he liked Kelly a lot. #johnsontrial

This would have been a good time to either break off contact with the alleged victim or just grow a set and tell her he's not interested in anything more than being friends.

At least that way he could keep asking for rides I suppose...

Jumping ahead to forester's ball in Feb 2012 --
Johnson: Agreed he got together with Kelly at forester's ball. They danced often, kissed on the dance floor. #johnsontrial

Johnson: Saw the woman there. She came over and gave him a hug. He was happy to see her. He danced with her later, maybe 1x. #johnsontrial

Johnson: Woman asked him if he wanted to get fake married at the ball. #johnsontrial He said sure. There was a long line.

Johnson: They were in line, but they saw their respective friends and parted ways. #johnsontrial Woman saw him dancing with Kelly.

Johnson: He danced with one of the woman's friends. Danced more with Kelly. Then he went home. #johnsontrial Evening recess.

Again these are his words. And they refute the premise that I had originally heard. I still do not believe it was rape and I agree that he's more than paid the price for the mistakes that he made.

That being said, as I read his words I found myself feeling surprisingly sympathetic towards the girl. At the same time I was pissed at Jordan for being such a selfish ass. A dirt bag.

I am a father of a very pretty young woman who I will be sending off to college far too quickly and the thought of her being used that way by some dirt bag makes me sick to my stomach. Maybe that's why I'm interpreting this the way that I am -- because I'm seeing things through the eyes of a father.

And who knows, maybe I'll change my mind when I hear the rest of his testimony. No matter what he says though, it's his testimony thus far that ultimately shaped my opinion.

You don't have to agree with me. You can call me names too. That's okay. I opened myself to that when I shared my opinion and feelings on this forum the way I did. I actually expected far worse.

I don't believe Jordan raped that girl on that fateful night. I believe she gave herself to him willingly because she truly liked him. Which to me makes the whole story even more tragic.

And him an even bigger dirt bag.
 
So, in 36 paragraphs, you're essentially saying: JJ is every college-aged male.

I think my description was a tad more succinct. But your post sure was a good (albeit long) read.



Look, no one is suggesting JJ is a saint in all this. But really? C'mon. This stuff happens 1,000 times a night on every college campus, and 500 times the guy's at "fault" and 500 times the girl's at "fault". Women use men just as often as men use women.
 
Give JJ credit for asking SOMEONE for a ride when he had been drinking. Think of how damning a DUI would have been for our darling quarterback...
 
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