Hauck contract

[3-7-77]

Brown defines “unproven quarterback”

Proven to have gotten him through school.
Cha-ching! :lol:

 

[AZGrizFan]

So there’s NO record or performance that would give Haslam, supporters and “important” people pause as to Hauck’s future with the organization? None whatsoever? He has a blank check? An endless contract?

Nope, no chance of any bad record causing him not to get a chance to sign a good renewal. Who's to say UM isn't trying to get him to sign a contract now?

Thank you for not answering the question, counselor. :lol:

If the Griz finished 2-9 this year, you think Bobby gets a new contract? How about 3-8? New contract?

 

[mthoopsfan]

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Mon Aug 14, 2023 7:57 pm


If you want to know what's going on, you should listen to me.

This from the guy who all but guarenteed a new contract last spring. You are a voice but not one worth listening to.

The contract is on his desk. He doesn’t want to sign it. Has too many other options. Paying triple the money. You don’t have a clue.

 

[mthoopsfan]

Haha. He wouldn't be on hot seat at 6-5. You need to learn more about Griz football and what the "important" people think about Hauck. Your posts look like jokes.

Who the hell are these "important" people who would be ok with 6-5? Let's hear some names because if 6-5 is the barometer now, this fan base is pathetic! You make the Cat fans argument for them. Can you not see that?? Seriously though, you could pull about any NAIA coach up and take this team to 6-5. Sheesh

In chronological order. Some are. Sponsor of NEZ expansion. Sponsor of new scoreboard. Sponsor of hall of fame area. Person who flew Bobby to Missoula for first job acceptance and significant ongoing donor while Bobby was coach, and guy asked to donate $7 million for performance center. I know academic center donor, and assume he is a Bobby guy, but haven’t asked him. I will. I assume Brock Coyle. Don’t know about Washington. Don’t know about family who sponsored some of east side expansion. Assume Edwards family but haven’t asked. Dave Paoli, a good donor and nil supporter. He would rip the head off of anyone who opposed Bobby. I know Bodnar pretty well and believe he’s a big supporter.

Which big donors and supporters do you know who don’t support Bobby?

 

[griznative24]

My question for you all is this: If bobby retires or is let go, and thats a big if, who would UofM be able to hire? Expectations: through the roof. Pay: low. Cost of living: high. Location: somewhat isolated. I don't know the intricacies of colleges hiring coaches, but I imagine that the pool will be relatively small. Thoughts?

The pool is probably larger than most estimate. The problem isn’t going to be finding someone with youth and the right experience. It will be keeping them for any length of time. Success = better opportunities and more money. College football is all about the money. You can hate on BH all you want. I don’t think he is going anywhere. This year should be a good one for the Griz. Watching body language, it is quite apparent that everyone from Hauck down knows that this is a year where they better perform. Schedule is favorable and there is no reason they won’t have a stellar year. It just drives me nuts the Griz are in another fall camp with a QB competition. A legitimate - who the hell is the starter competition.

The qb spot is what worries me the most. I don't like talking trash on college kids, but if KB is the backup I think this team has serious issues. Your comments are reassuring, even if a coach leaves for a better opportunity I think that shows strength in any athletic program.

 

[griznative24]

My question for you all is this: If bobby retires or is let go, and thats a big if, who would UofM be able to hire? Expectations: through the roof. Pay: low. Cost of living: high. Location: somewhat isolated. I don't know the intricacies of colleges hiring coaches, but I imagine that the pool will be relatively small. Thoughts?

I want to preface this post with saying I hope he does not retire or get fired or if he does retire that he retires after a national championship run. I also want that it’s a slow week of work for me. But if we are going down this rabbit hole, I think anyone across college athletics would say that Montana is still an incredible job. And with the current roster, I don’t think it’s unrealistic to say that it would be one that a guy could SEE themselves coming in and exceeding INITIAL expectation.

I don’t think it would attract many P5 coordinators, but for sure I think P5 position coaches. Those guys are realistically looking for a solid FCS head job, G5 coordinator job, or getting promoted at their current spot. So to that point if you look at position coaches across the western part of the country, I don’t think that’s unrealistic. The next demographic would be a G5 coordinator. Hate to say it but a good decision for Vigen. Most likely mountain west coordinators obviously. I don’t see us taking a serious look at an an FCS coordinator. I can’t think of one guy off the top of my head with the SDSU guy getting promoted. Maybe see how NDSU does this fall?
Lastly there is no D2 head man in the country that would turn this job down, although I don’t think there is any D2 coach that UM would look at.

I mean you look at the 35 under 35 list you’re going to find some pac 12/G5 guys that would jump at the opportunity (not that we would necessarily be interested). Jerry Neuheisel, Drew Hollingshead, Doug Deakin, CJ Cox is just a few guys. Quality candidates with regional ties, again, not that we would want them but a list of names that would be attracted to Montana.

Disclaimer, this post is a what if scenario and doesn’t mean I have any qualms with the current coaching staff and have high expectations for the Grizzlies this year.

Thank you for responding. I will need to look into the coaches you listed. But I don't think Hauck should be fired and I def do not think he has is eye on retirement in the near future. I think HelenaHandBasket said earlier in the thread that he is neither hot nor cold on Bobby, and I am right there with him.

 

[griznative24]

Well they SHOULD start out 5-0 like last year...you think they go 2-4 or 3-3 down the stretch? If that happens again I think you're right...that doesn't bode well for BH.

@UC-Davis
@Idaho
Sac State
Bozeman State.

He HAS to go 2-2 in these four games, IMHO. Every other game they should win. IMO, anything worse than 9-2 and his seat should be very hot.

Haha. He wouldn't be on hot seat at 6-5. You need to learn more about Griz football and what the "important" people think about Hauck. Your posts look like jokes.

If they go 6-5, miss the playoffs, with this schedule, how is that not a blow against what Hauck is trying to build?

 

[mthoopsfan]

Haha. He wouldn't be on hot seat at 6-5. You need to learn more about Griz football and what the "important" people think about Hauck. Your posts look like jokes.

If they go 6-5, miss the playoffs, with this schedule, how is that not a blow against what Hauck is trying to build?

It would be, but that wasn’t the topic being discussed.

 

[Copper Griz]

The pool is probably larger than most estimate. The problem isn’t going to be finding someone with youth and the right experience. It will be keeping them for any length of time. Success = better opportunities and more money. College football is all about the money. You can hate on BH all you want. I don’t think he is going anywhere. This year should be a good one for the Griz. Watching body language, it is quite apparent that everyone from Hauck down knows that this is a year where they better perform. Schedule is favorable and there is no reason they won’t have a stellar year. It just drives me nuts the Griz are in another fall camp with a QB competition. A legitimate - who the hell is the starter competition.

When did the Griz last have a qb competition? I don't recall any competitions, or real ones, under Hauck. What the Griz have for the first time, is a fall with only unproven qb's plus Brown.

Last year was a competition in my mind. Yes, a real one. You had a very proven QB coming in. He still had to learn the playbook and gel with the offensive players. Brown had time in the system and knew the players. He struggled, but again had to step in due to injury. This year we have another competition. Sorry, it drives me nuts because a program like Bozeman has the advantage with a multi year QB. He knows the system inside and out and has the confidence of the team. The more years a good QB has in a system - the better. Grizzlies are again starting from square one and it seems to be the case most years. Covid threw a lot out of whack and the injury bug has been brutal for the Griz. Hopefully they find a multi year starter in 2023.

 

[mthoopsfan]

When did the Griz last have a qb competition? I don't recall any competitions, or real ones, under Hauck. What the Griz have for the first time, is a fall with only unproven qb's plus Brown.

Last year was a competition in my mind. Yes, a real one. You had a very proven QB coming in. He still had to learn the playbook and gel with the offensive players. Brown had time in the system and knew the players. He struggled, but again had to step in due to injury. This year we have another competition. Sorry, it drives me nuts because a program like Bozeman has the advantage with a multi year QB. He knows the system inside and out and has the confidence of the team. The more years a good QB has in a system - the better. Grizzlies are again starting from square one and it seems to be the case most years. Covid threw a lot out of whack and the injury bug has been brutal for the Griz. Hopefully they find a multi year starter in 2023.

Got it.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Who the hell are these "important" people who would be ok with 6-5? Let's hear some names because if 6-5 is the barometer now, this fan base is pathetic! You make the Cat fans argument for them. Can you not see that?? Seriously though, you could pull about any NAIA coach up and take this team to 6-5. Sheesh

In chronological order. Some are. Sponsor of NEZ expansion. Sponsor of new scoreboard. Sponsor of hall of fame area. Person who flew Bobby to Missoula for first job acceptance and significant ongoing donor while Bobby was coach, and guy asked to donate $7 million for performance center. I know academic center donor, and assume he is a Bobby guy, but haven’t asked him. I will. I assume Brock Coyle. Don’t know about Washington. Don’t know about family who sponsored some of east side expansion. Assume Edwards family but haven’t asked. Dave Paoli, a good donor and nil supporter. He would rip the head off of anyone who opposed Bobby. I know Bodnar pretty well and believe he’s a big supporter.

Which big donors and supporters do you know who don’t support Bobby?

What about the guy who flew Bobby up there before Stitt had even been fired so Bobby could pitch for the job? He on your list?

Does a 3-8 season get Bobby extended? You haven’t answered that question.

 

[AZGrizFan]

When did the Griz last have a qb competition? I don't recall any competitions, or real ones, under Hauck. What the Griz have for the first time, is a fall with only unproven qb's plus Brown.

Last year was a competition in my mind. Yes, a real one. You had a very proven QB coming in. He still had to learn the playbook and gel with the offensive players. Brown had time in the system and knew the players. He struggled, but again had to step in due to injury. This year we have another competition. Sorry, it drives me nuts because a program like Bozeman has the advantage with a multi year QB. He knows the system inside and out and has the confidence of the team. The more years a good QB has in a system - the better. Grizzlies are again starting from square one and it seems to be the case most years. Covid threw a lot out of whack and the injury bug has been brutal for the Griz. Hopefully they find a multi year starter in 2023.

Last year wasn’t a competition. Come ON. Johnson knew the day he stepped on campus he was the starter. Anything else was just lip service to a “competition” to make fans and the press think it was so.

 

[indian-outlaw]

Brown defines “unproven quarterback”

Proven to have gotten him through school.
Cha-ching! :lol:

Don't shit on any athlete that is on scholarship, especially football players. If the hours he has spent on football and training were spent washing dishes in a chinese restaurant for minimum wage he'd be money ahead.

 

[sdk.catfish]

mthoopsfan

The contract is on his desk. He doesn’t want to sign it. Has too many other options. Paying triple the money. You don’t have a clue.

I have to asssume this is sarcasm. I just have to because if not you should be seeking some help.. But then again it is from the man who claimed last spring that Hauck could be the special teams coordinator for any NFL team and claimed he had multiple high paying coaching offers from other schools. When asked to prove it you could only reference a claim (yours) that he was offered the SDSU head coaching gig 7 years ago and turned it down, but of course couldn't prove that either. So again, if this wasn't sarcasm, show us those triple money options.

7 and 4, a loss to the Cats in Missoula, and no playoffs because of Ferris State won't cut it for many influential people. It might for you but you don't really fall into the influential catagory.

 

[mthoopsfan]

mthoopsfan

The contract is on his desk. He doesn’t want to sign it. Has too many other options. Paying triple the money. You don’t have a clue.

I have to asssume this is sarcasm. I just have to because if not you should be seeking some help.. But then again it is from the man who claimed last spring that Hauck could be the special teams coordinator for any NFL team and claimed he had multiple high paying coaching offers from other schools. When asked to prove it you could only reference a claim (yours) that he was offered the SDSU head coaching gig 7 years ago and turned it down, but of course couldn't prove that either. So again, if this wasn't sarcasm, show us those triple money options.

7 and 4, a loss to the Cats in Missoula, and no playoffs because of Ferris State won't cut it for many influential people. It might for you but you don't really fall into the influential catagory.

All 3 of those things in first para are 100% accurate. Feel free to ask any senior person in the athletic Dept.

 

[mthoopsfan]

Here’s a good synopsis. “Bobby is highly regarded at UM and in many circles, and we're lucky to have him because others would like to hire him away including the NFL. Remember, in Bobby 1.0, he was offered long-term deals but preferred one-year contracts. We are working on it.”

 

[bgbigdog]

When did the Griz last have a qb competition? I don't recall any competitions, or real ones, under Hauck. What the Griz have for the first time, is a fall with only unproven qb's plus Brown.

Last year was a competition in my mind. Yes, a real one. You had a very proven QB coming in. He still had to learn the playbook and gel with the offensive players. Brown had time in the system and knew the players. He struggled, but again had to step in due to injury. This year we have another competition. Sorry, it drives me nuts because a program like Bozeman has the advantage with a multi year QB. He knows the system inside and out and has the confidence of the team. The more years a good QB has in a system - the better. Grizzlies are again starting from square one and it seems to be the case most years. Covid threw a lot out of whack and the injury bug has been brutal for the Griz. Hopefully they find a multi year starter in 2023.

Every season brings competition, and I think for the majority of the spots, that's the case. If for no other reason than you need to know who to go to in rotations or should someone be injured and is out for long periods, as they always say, "next man up." In this day and age, QB isn't one of those except on rare occasions when you really do have guys who are so close in skills and abilities that the difference becomes who can deliver when they start the game clock. They're the most important position on the field, not just their 1/11th of anything. For most teams, deficiency at QB is the difference between successful and disastrous seasons. I say for most teams because for bozeman, it was just another running back in a juggernaut running game. If they'd been able to be stopped, then bozeman is just another team. They realize that and I have no doubt they're doing everything they can to make sure neither QB has to lead the team in rushing this season.

Rosenbach spent all spring and summer getting Johnson ready to play, to the detriment of the other QB's on the roster. And for the reason that they told him he was the guy. I don't think he'd have come for any other reasons. For the life of me, I will never understand the "all-eggs-in-Johnsons-basket, particularly when you're talking about a veteran staff. Guys get hurt, so the replacement should be the next guy down the ladder rung, not someone on a completely different level, without the skills they counted on to run the offense that was designed, primarily to leverage a mobile QB, like Johnson. Or a third string guy who got no attention, but showed he had a similar skillset to Johnson's.

Ultimately, they spent most of the second half of the season getting an injured Johnson ready to play. There had to have been a reason, which I believe to be their belief that he was their best chance to win, injury and all. Not really a ringing endorsement for the QB room or for their having been any kind of real competition. And like you, I hope they find a multi year starter, and figure out how to develop guys who are capable of running things in the event of an inevitable absence.

 

[mthoopsfan]

I think the coaches thought Brown would do better, as he had the prior season. I agree they thought an injured johnson was best solution. Bummer on his knee problem. I assume there will be more depth this season. I hope our starter is within striking if being a terrific qb. At least after early season.

 

[Oldschoolhornet]

Zero chance Bobby could ever take his coaching style/schtick into a locker room full of professionals. He gets to use it on college players but it would never work on grown ass men. His tough-guy routine would last about 27 seconds. It didn't go well for Frank Kush when he tried it and he was a much better football coach.
Your narrative that Bobby could have an NFL job that pays five times what he is currently making but just isn't interested is even more laughable. Time to let it go.

 

[3-7-77]

Proven to have gotten him through school.
Cha-ching! :lol:

Don't poop on any athlete that is on scholarship, especially football players. If the hours he has spent on football and training were spent washing dishes in a chinese restaurant for minimum wage he'd be money ahead.

Terrible analogy. I assume someone gave him a choice, wash dishes in a Chinese restaurant or play football, which he has played since Middle School. He chose football. Shows he isn't stupid, and no dishpan hands. My comment was intended as a compliment.