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Griz on path for a seed

marceagfan5 said:
UM is a lock for the playoffs at this point, they are in no matter what at 9-3 and you aren't losing to Weber.

I think the Griz get a seed if the following 3 things happen.

1 - Win out. If you don't beat the Cats, MSU would definitely get the nod over Griz in terms of a seed with the same record and head to head win, assuming both teams win next week.

2 - NAU needs to drop one. If NAU finishes 9-2 tough to give the Griz a seed over NAU. They would both have the same amount of losses, NAU would have a better conference record, and own the head to head.

3 - It probably helps any Big Sky team if EWU wins out. If EWU wins out they are probably the 2 or 3 seed and give the conference a little bit stronger ranking, which probably gives another Big sky team a 5-8 seed. If EWU drops one coming in, then EWU probably still wins the conference auto bid (they won't drop 2) but drops a couple spots seeding to maybe 5 or 6 and may bump the 2nd big sky team out of a seed.

Just my 2 cents. If they Griz win out, they deserve a seed. You are a lot better than you are getting credit for, especially from some of your own fans...

Also, the Big Sky has had a team in the semi's the last 5 years? Maybe more (Griz 08, 09, 11 and EWU 10, 12) plus a team in the chipper in 3 of those years. That playoff success should get the Big Sky 2 seeds and 4 teams in the playoffs.




Eastern beating the cats was a big help to us, also true if Eastern wins out, them being higer seeded helps another Big Sky team get a higher seed. If we win out, I believe we will be seeded. Think whoever wins the brawl will get a seed if both teams win this week.
 
marceagfan5 said:
UM is a lock for the playoffs at this point, they are in no matter what at 9-3 and you aren't losing to Weber.

I think the Griz get a seed if the following 3 things happen.

1 - Win out. If you don't beat the Cats, MSU would definitely get the nod over Griz in terms of a seed with the same record and head to head win, assuming both teams win next week.

2 - NAU needs to drop one. If NAU finishes 9-2 tough to give the Griz a seed over NAU. They would both have the same amount of losses, NAU would have a better conference record, and own the head to head.

3 - It probably helps any Big Sky team if EWU wins out. If EWU wins out they are probably the 2 or 3 seed and give the conference a little bit stronger ranking, which probably gives another Big sky team a 5-8 seed. If EWU drops one coming in, then EWU probably still wins the conference auto bid (they won't drop 2) but drops a couple spots seeding to maybe 5 or 6 and may bump the 2nd big sky team out of a seed.

Just my 2 cents. If they Griz win out, they deserve a seed. You are a lot better than you are getting credit for, especially from some of your own fans...

Also, the Big Sky has had a team in the semi's the last 5 years? Maybe more (Griz 08, 09, 11 and EWU 10, 12) plus a team in the chipper in 3 of those years. That playoff success should get the Big Sky 2 seeds and 4 teams in the playoffs.

Excellent post. But I disagree with your 2nd point. I don't know that an early season loss to NAU will impact the decision if the Griz win out and go 10-2. The rest is spot on, however.

Oh, and I dont' think EWU is losing ONE, let alone TWO games coming in.
 
My prediction is Eastern with a 3 and the GRIZ with a 6. msu plays a first round game and -- assuming they win -- get sent to NDSU.
 
marceagfan5 said:
UM is a lock for the playoffs at this point, they are in no matter what at 9-3 and you aren't losing to Weber.

I think the Griz get a seed if the following 3 things happen.

1 - Win out. If you don't beat the Cats, MSU would definitely get the nod over Griz in terms of a seed with the same record and head to head win, assuming both teams win next week.

2 - NAU needs to drop one. If NAU finishes 9-2 tough to give the Griz a seed over NAU. They would both have the same amount of losses, NAU would have a better conference record, and own the head to head.

3 - It probably helps any Big Sky team if EWU wins out. If EWU wins out they are probably the 2 or 3 seed and give the conference a little bit stronger ranking, which probably gives another Big sky team a 5-8 seed. If EWU drops one coming in, then EWU probably still wins the conference auto bid (they won't drop 2) but drops a couple spots seeding to maybe 5 or 6 and may bump the 2nd big sky team out of a seed.

Just my 2 cents. If they Griz win out, they deserve a seed. You are a lot better than you are getting credit for, especially from some of your own fans...

Also, the Big Sky has had a team in the semi's the last 5 years? Maybe more (Griz 08, 09, 11 and EWU 10, 12) plus a team in the chipper in 3 of those years. That playoff success should get the Big Sky 2 seeds and 4 teams in the playoffs.
Good post
 
marceagfan5 said:
UM is a lock for the playoffs at this point, they are in no matter what at 9-3 and you aren't losing to Weber.

I think the Griz get a seed if the following 3 things happen.

1 - Win out. If you don't beat the Cats, MSU would definitely get the nod over Griz in terms of a seed with the same record and head to head win, assuming both teams win next week.

2 - NAU needs to drop one. If NAU finishes 9-2 tough to give the Griz a seed over NAU. They would both have the same amount of losses, NAU would have a better conference record, and own the head to head.

3 - It probably helps any Big Sky team if EWU wins out. If EWU wins out they are probably the 2 or 3 seed and give the conference a little bit stronger ranking, which probably gives another Big sky team a 5-8 seed. If EWU drops one coming in, then EWU probably still wins the conference auto bid (they won't drop 2) but drops a couple spots seeding to maybe 5 or 6 and may bump the 2nd big sky team out of a seed.

Just my 2 cents. If they Griz win out, they deserve a seed. You are a lot better than you are getting credit for, especially from some of your own fans...

Also, the Big Sky has had a team in the semi's the last 5 years? Maybe more (Griz 08, 09, 11 and EWU 10, 12) plus a team in the chipper in 3 of those years. That playoff success should get the Big Sky 2 seeds and 4 teams in the playoffs.

Good post, agreed.
 
At the moment, ALL of the prognosticators are picking only ONE Big Sky Conference seed: EWU. Generally, they are looking at 4 BSC teams making it in. That includes TSN, College Sports Journal (Burton), College Sports Madness, and No Bowls Bracketology.

I know the selection committee, made up of ADs from different conferences, will see things a little differently, but here is how the conference powers appear in polls and the Sagarins: Montana is second in all of them, MSU third in all of them, NAU fourth in two and fifth in the other, and SUU is by far the least respected. SUU probably doesn't have a shot against MSU, but they are home against their RIVALS, NAU, for their last game.

TSN Poll
3. Eastern Washington
7. Montana
8. Montana State
12. Northern Arizona
29. Southern Utah

Coaches Poll
3. Eastern Washington
8. Montana
10. Montana State
13. Northern Arizona
30. Southern Utah

Sagarin Ratings
74 Eastern Washington
106 Montana
125 Montana State
126 Cal Poly
136 Northern Arizona
163 Portland State
165 Sacramento State
172 Southern Utah
 
AZGrizFan said:
tnt said:
griz4life said:
The question for Big Sky second and third placers is who has to travel to Cheney to play EWU. If three teams get invited, one will be playing EWU in week three. On the other side of the bracket, because of the emphasis on regionalization, someone is headed to NDSU, probably in the first couple rounds.


True that. The team that hasn't been mentioned is SUU. There is no reason to belive they won't beat either NAU, the cats or both. Even if we win out, that would put us in a very doubtful position for the playoffs period.....

What in the F**K are you babbling about? There is a 0.0000000% chance that a 10-2 Griz team is left out of the playoffs...LESS than Zero % chance.

lol - yeah a 10-2 Griz team finishing the season with a road win against a top 10 team would probably finish the season in the top 5 and be lock not only in the playoffs but for a seed.
 
BWahlberg said:
lol - yeah a 10-2 Griz team finishing the season with a road win against a top 10 team would probably finish the season in the top 5 and be lock not only in the playoffs but for a seed.

If the cats finish a top ten team. If they lose their next two, they won't be. In fact they likley won't be in the playoffs
 
AZGrizFan said:
tnt said:
griz4life said:
The question for Big Sky second and third placers is who has to travel to Cheney to play EWU. If three teams get invited, one will be playing EWU in week three. On the other side of the bracket, because of the emphasis on regionalization, someone is headed to NDSU, probably in the first couple rounds.


True that. The team that hasn't been mentioned is SUU. There is no reason to belive they won't beat either NAU, the cats or both. Even if we win out, that would put us in a very doubtful position for the playoffs period.....

What in the F**K are you babbling about? There is a 0.0000000% chance that a 10-2 Griz team is left out of the playoffs...LESS than Zero % chance.

Let me explain.

tnt like to spew shit that he thinks sounds provocative or controversial. He thinks it makes him come off as astute, but it’s usually drivel.

Would you expect anything less from a poster spawned from the JJ rape trial era?
 
tnt said:
BWahlberg said:
lol - yeah a 10-2 Griz team finishing the season with a road win against a top 10 team would probably finish the season in the top 5 and be lock not only in the playoffs but for a seed.

If the cats finish a top ten team. If they lose their next two, they won't be. In fact they likley won't be in the playoffs

Cats are going to beat SUU, as much as Griz Nation wishes it doesn't happen. SUU just doesn't have the horses to hang to with MSU. So the game will probably be #7 vs #8 or if there's an upset or two this weekend both teams will move up a notch or two.
 
BWahlberg said:
tnt said:
BWahlberg said:
lol - yeah a 10-2 Griz team finishing the season with a road win against a top 10 team would probably finish the season in the top 5 and be lock not only in the playoffs but for a seed.

If the cats finish a top ten team. If they lose their next two, they won't be. In fact they likley won't be in the playoffs

Cats are going to beat SUU, as much as Griz Nation wishes it doesn't happen. SUU just doesn't have the horses to hang to with MSU. So the game will probably be #7 vs #8 or if there's an upset or two this weekend both teams will move up a notch or two.

Even if the Cats lose against SUU, a 10-2 Montana team finishing at worst tied for 2nd in the Big Sky is in the playoffs. tnt's logic is complete nonsense.
 
tnt said:
BWahlberg said:
lol - yeah a 10-2 Griz team finishing the season with a road win against a top 10 team would probably finish the season in the top 5 and be lock not only in the playoffs but for a seed.

If the cats finish a top ten team. If they lose their next two, they won't be. In fact they likley won't be in the playoffs

Likely out of the playoffs? The cats won't even have the bare minimum 7 D-1 wins if they lose their next two.
 
Htowngriz said:
tnt said:
BWahlberg said:
lol - yeah a 10-2 Griz team finishing the season with a road win against a top 10 team would probably finish the season in the top 5 and be lock not only in the playoffs but for a seed.

If the cats finish a top ten team. If they lose their next two, they won't be. In fact they likley won't be in the playoffs

Likely out of the playoffs? The cats won't even have the bare minimum 7 D-1 wins if they lose their next two.

Again, proving why tnt has no idea what he's talking about.
 
BWahlberg said:
tnt said:
BWahlberg said:
lol - yeah a 10-2 Griz team finishing the season with a road win against a top 10 team would probably finish the season in the top 5 and be lock not only in the playoffs but for a seed.

If the cats finish a top ten team. If they lose their next two, they won't be. In fact they likley won't be in the playoffs

Cats are going to beat SUU, as much as Griz Nation wishes it doesn't happen. SUU just doesn't have the horses to hang to with MSU. So the game will probably be #7 vs #8 or if there's an upset or two this weekend both teams will move up a notch or two.


Again depends on which cat team shows up. Even against EWU, SUU forced a couple of turnovers and rode with them for the first half (Easterns defense doing the bulk of the scoring.) Their turnovers (3)is what sunk them. Even at that they passed for 225 as opposed to Easterns 298 and rushed for 143 as opposed to Easterns 191. They can play with the Cats and on a good day beat them.
 
bigkid said:
I really doubt the cats will lose to suu.....cats 35 suu 17.

The 'scats are 5-1 in conference. Their 5 conference victories are against:

UND (2-5)
NAU (5-1)
Weber State (0-6)
UC Davis (3-3)
Northern Colorado (0-6)

That's four of the 5 worst teams in the conference, with a COMBINED total of 9 conference victories. Don't get me wrong, NAU was a nice win, but they seem to have started mailing it in after that. They trailed Weber after 1 quarter (and gave up 500 yards of offense), struggled with UC-Davis the entire first half, and actually TRAILED UNC 28-27 in the 4th quarter.

After the shellacking they just took in Cheney, they have to be shellshocked. It wouldn't surprise me at ALL if SUU went into Bozo and put the 'scats out of their misery.
 
tnt said:
BWahlberg said:
tnt said:
BWahlberg said:
lol - yeah a 10-2 Griz team finishing the season with a road win against a top 10 team would probably finish the season in the top 5 and be lock not only in the playoffs but for a seed.

If the cats finish a top ten team. If they lose their next two, they won't be. In fact they likley won't be in the playoffs

Cats are going to beat SUU, as much as Griz Nation wishes it doesn't happen. SUU just doesn't have the horses to hang to with MSU. So the game will probably be #7 vs #8 or if there's an upset or two this weekend both teams will move up a notch or two.


Again depends on which cat team shows up. Even against EWU, SUU forced a couple of turnovers and rode with them for the first half (Easterns defense doing the bulk of the scoring.) Their turnovers (3)is what sunk them. Even at that they passed for 225 as opposed to Easterns 298 and rushed for 143 as opposed to Easterns 191. They can play with the Cats and on a good day beat them.

SUU was NEVER in the game against EWU and they won't be against MSU. EWU turned the ball over after lengthy drives in the first quarter on their first 2 possessions in SUU's territory, if that doesn't happen, the final score is probably 48-3. It was 34-3 until SUU scored a garbage TD in the last minute of the game...

No way they hang with the Cats, good or bad day, not a chance...SUU does not have the offensive fire power to compete with EWU, MSU, or the Griz...
 
AZGrizFan said:
bigkid said:
I really doubt the cats will lose to suu.....cats 35 suu 17.

The 'scats are 5-1 in conference. Their 5 conference victories are against:

UND (2-5)
NAU (5-1)
Weber State (0-6)
UC Davis (3-3)
Northern Colorado (0-6)

That's four of the 5 worst teams in the conference, with a COMBINED total of 9 conference victories. Don't get me wrong, NAU was a nice win, but they seem to have started mailing it in after that. They trailed Weber after 1 quarter (and gave up 500 yards of offense), struggled with UC-Davis the entire first half, and actually TRAILED UNC 28-27 in the 4th quarter.

After the shellacking they just took in Cheney, they have to be shellshocked. It wouldn't surprise me at ALL if SUU went into Bozo and put the 'scats out of their misery.
Nope...5 wins is five wins. They can only play the schedule. Do not look deeper into those games.
 
marceagfan5 said:
SUU was NEVER in the game against EWU and they won't be against MSU. EWU turned the ball over after lengthy drives in the first quarter on their first 2 possessions in SUU's territory, if that doesn't happen, the final score is probably 48-3. It was 34-3 until SUU scored a garbage TD in the last minute of the game...

No way they hang with the Cats, good or bad day, not a chance...SUU does not have the offensive fire power to compete with EWU, MSU, or the Griz...

If if's and buts were candy and nuts....if Poehls hadn't gotten that hands to the face penalty....if we'd called a nickel package instead of having JP trying to cover Hill in the slot....if Worst hadn't missed that FG....the fact is you DID turn the ball over on your first two possessesions, KEEPING SUU in the game for a while...that's football.
 
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