Griz on path for a seed

[get'em_griz]

The question for Big Sky second and third placers is who has to travel to Cheney to play EWU. If three teams get invited, one will be playing EWU in week three. On the other side of the bracket, because of the emphasis on regionalization, someone is headed to NDSU, probably in the first couple rounds.

I have a feeling that the committee is going to want to put MSU on NDSU's side of the bracket! :lol:

 

[tnt]

The question for Big Sky second and third placers is who has to travel to Cheney to play EWU. If three teams get invited, one will be playing EWU in week three. On the other side of the bracket, because of the emphasis on regionalization, someone is headed to NDSU, probably in the first couple rounds.

True that. The team that hasn't been mentioned is SUU. There is no reason to belive they won't beat either NAU, the cats or both. Even if we win out, that would put us in a very doubtful position for the playoffs period.....

 

[PlayerRep]

How many teams from the BSC, PR?

Probably 4. Don't think SU has a good chance, but big wins now would change things. The Cats may have to scramble to get in and won't if they don't take care of business against SU and get beat by UM. I don't disagree with your point that the NAU loss could impact UM's chance of getting a seed, if UM were to win out.

With the way things are playing out in the MV and the SoCon, and probably with the CAA, those conferences are not going to get a bunch of teams in. CAA will do fine, but 4 or maybe even 3 is more likely. If top teams in the lesser conferences take care of business, there shouldn't be crappy teams winning the auto-bid, which would force the selection committee to include a second better team from the conference. My impression is that there is likely to be room for deserving at-large teams in the power conferences. Remaining games are important, tho, and there are always upsets--just like last weekend.

 

[get'em_griz]

The question for Big Sky second and third placers is who has to travel to Cheney to play EWU. If three teams get invited, one will be playing EWU in week three. On the other side of the bracket, because of the emphasis on regionalization, someone is headed to NDSU, probably in the first couple rounds.

True that. The team that hasn't been mentioned is SUU. There is no reason to belive they won't beat either NAU, the cats or both. Even if we win out, that would put us in a very doubtful position for the playoffs period.....

Even if that scenario plays out and we still win out, there is no way we aren't in the playoffs. Period. No way in Hell that 10-2 doesn't get the "Montana Grizzlies" into the playoffs, no matter what happens.

 

[grizare#1]

A seed would be awesome just from the standpoint that this team needs some rest and time to let the ankles and bruises heal up a bit. With that said its a big hope at this point as there are eight quarters of football to be played until we know. Even with all the talk about revenue the NCAA also wants the FCS to be on a bigger stage like they have tried to do the past few years, and showing a playoff game in front of 3500 fans is not going to look impressive to a viewing public on ESPN. Like it or not its the truth.

 

[EverettGriz]

The question for Big Sky second and third placers is who has to travel to Cheney to play EWU. If three teams get invited, one will be playing EWU in week three. On the other side of the bracket, because of the emphasis on regionalization, someone is headed to NDSU, probably in the first couple rounds.

True that. The team that hasn't been mentioned is SUU. There is no reason to belive they won't beat either NAU, the cats or both. Even if we win out, that would put us in a very doubtful position for the playoffs period.....

You're out of your mind.

This would be like Duke going 26-4 and finishing behind UNC and not getting an at-large to the Dance.

If the Griz best Weebs, they are 99.8% sure of a playoff bid no matter what happens in the Brawl. If they win that, the only thing that keeps them out of the playoffs is a bid to the Rose Bowl.

 

[PlayerRep]

The question for Big Sky second and third placers is who has to travel to Cheney to play EWU. If three teams get invited, one will be playing EWU in week three. On the other side of the bracket, because of the emphasis on regionalization, someone is headed to NDSU, probably in the first couple rounds.

True that. The team that hasn't been mentioned is SUU. There is no reason to belive they won't beat either NAU, the cats or both. Even if we win out, that would put us in a very doubtful position for the playoffs period.....

You're out of your mind.

This would be like Duke going 26-4 and finishing behind UNC and not getting an at-large to the Dance.

If the Griz best Weebs, they are 99.8% sure of a playoff bid no matter what happens in the Brawl. If they win that, the only thing that keeps them out of the playoffs is a bid to the Rose Bowl.

Agreed, on all counts.

 

[WaGriz4life]

The question for Big Sky second and third placers is who has to travel to Cheney to play EWU. If three teams get invited, one will be playing EWU in week three. On the other side of the bracket, because of the emphasis on regionalization, someone is headed to NDSU, probably in the first couple rounds.

True that. The team that hasn't been mentioned is SUU. There is no reason to belive they won't beat either NAU, the cats or both. Even if we win out, that would put us in a very doubtful position for the playoffs period.....

You're out of your mind.

This would be like Duke going 26-4 and finishing behind UNC and not getting an at-large to the Dance.

If the Griz best Weebs, they are 99.8% sure of a playoff bid no matter what happens in the Brawl. If they win that, the only thing that keeps them out of the playoffs is a bid to the Rose Bowl.

Agreed, on all counts.

+1. tnt is almost never right about anything on this board. Isn't he the one that said we had no speed at WR and even if we did, don't have a QB that can get them the ball? That was pretty funny

 

[grizfan95]

The question for Big Sky second and third placers is who has to travel to Cheney to play EWU. If three teams get invited, one will be playing EWU in week three. On the other side of the bracket, because of the emphasis on regionalization, someone is headed to NDSU, probably in the first couple rounds.

True that. The team that hasn't been mentioned is SUU. There is no reason to belive they won't beat either NAU, the cats or both. Even if we win out, that would put us in a very doubtful position for the playoffs period.....

With those three sentences and an incorrect use of an ellipsis, I have lost complete faith in anything you've said in the past or will say in the future.

If we win out, the Griz are a top 8 seed, at the minimum. You are completely and utterly lost and this statement verifies that.

 

[stubbins]

The question for Big Sky second and third placers is who has to travel to Cheney to play EWU. If three teams get invited, one will be playing EWU in week three. On the other side of the bracket, because of the emphasis on regionalization, someone is headed to NDSU, probably in the first couple rounds.

True that. The team that hasn't been mentioned is SUU. There is no reason to belive they won't beat either NAU, the cats or both. Even if we win out, that would put us in a very doubtful position for the playoffs period.....

You're out of your mind.

This would be like Duke going 26-4 and finishing behind UNC and not getting an at-large to the Dance.

If the Griz best Weebs, they are 99.8% sure of a playoff bid no matter what happens in the Brawl. If they win that, the only thing that keeps them out of the playoffs is a bid to the Rose Bowl.

If the griz beat weebs...it's a 100% lock.

 

[AZGrizFan]

The question for Big Sky second and third placers is who has to travel to Cheney to play EWU. If three teams get invited, one will be playing EWU in week three. On the other side of the bracket, because of the emphasis on regionalization, someone is headed to NDSU, probably in the first couple rounds.

True that. The team that hasn't been mentioned is SUU. There is no reason to belive they won't beat either NAU, the cats or both. Even if we win out, that would put us in a very doubtful position for the playoffs period.....

What in the F**K are you babbling about? There is a 0.0000000% chance that a 10-2 Griz team is left out of the playoffs...LESS than Zero % chance.

 

[tnt]

If SUU finishes out that puts UM in fifth place or tied for fourth. The BSC teams finishing ahead of them will have all beaten common opponents. Its possible in fact that six teams will have common records. The Big Sky may send three to the playoffs. PR gives the best argument for four, but that requires some help from the outside.

You guys are a bit ahead of yourselves is all.

 

[Grizzlies1982]

If SUU finishes out that puts UM in fifth place or tied for fourth. The BSC teams finishing ahead of them will have all beaten common opponents. Its possible in fact that six teams will have common records. The Big Sky may send three to the playoffs. PR gives the best argument for four, but that requires some help from the outside.

You guys are a bit ahead of yourselves is all.

Yes everyone is ahead of themselves... they're just speculating as is done at this time of year. Fact is the Selection Committee really DOES NOT care about a team's conference record. If one team is 8-4 and another is 10-2 it won't matter if none of those four losses were in conference play. Setting aside the auto-bid, the 10-2 team will get more love than an 8-4 Conference co-champ.

 

[Fahque]

Griziron - you said the only way UM can get a seed is if they finish second in the conference. That is not correct. That is not a rule and the the Griz are a PERFECT example of that as they have been seeded higher than several Big Sky teams who have finished tied with or who have better conference records than them in past. Second - COMPARED TO the rest of the FCS, UM is the ONLY place that has traditionally drawn well over the years. To say UM doesn't draw that well in the playoffs is absurd. 26,000 for a first-round game? No. But when it comes to attendance in the playoffs, it's MONTANA, Appy a distant second, and the rest of the FCS with terrible numbers. Remember the 09' Villanova/William & Mary Game? That was a national semifinal with about 1,100 fans.

I agree there's no rule regarding seeding vs. conference finish. My opinion is that if UM finishes 3rd in the conference, they won't get seeded. I didn't say that UM doesn't draw well in the playoffs, especially compared to other FCS teams. In 2011, UM drew just over 22,000 for the first game and a bit over 23,000 for the second. Great attendance, but 26,000 just doesn't happen.

Maybe not, but finishing third in conference would not be the reason for them not getting seeded

 

[Fahque]

If SUU finishes out that puts UM in fifth place or tied for fourth. The BSC teams finishing ahead of them will have all beaten common opponents. Its possible in fact that six teams will have common records. The Big Sky may send three to the playoffs. PR gives the best argument for four, but that requires some help from the outside.

You guys are a bit ahead of yourselves is all.

Yes, this is all speculation but, with the exception of the conference champion, where anybody else lines up in the rest of the conference standings is irrelevant for who ends up in the playoffs. It's based purely off of overall record, not conference standing, for everyone except the auto-qualifier. If the BSC has three other teams, in addition to the auto-qualifier, with records, as compared to other teams across the FCS, that justify getting in then the BSC should be able to send four. If not, then only three probably get in but where anyone lands in the final BSC standings, again except for the conference champion, is irrelevant for playoff selection.

 

[AZGrizFan]

If SUU finishes out that puts UM in fifth place or tied for fourth. The BSC teams finishing ahead of them will have all beaten common opponents. Its possible in fact that six teams will have common records. The Big Sky may send three to the playoffs. PR gives the best argument for four, but that requires some help from the outside.

You guys are a bit ahead of yourselves is all.

"If SUU finishes out"....? That means beating Montana State AND Northern Arizona. That gives NAU 3 losses and MSU four losses. Also gives NAU and MSU 2 conference losses. Not sure how that puts the Griz in 5th place....

 

[tnt]

If SUU finishes out that puts UM in fifth place or tied for fourth. The BSC teams finishing ahead of them will have all beaten common opponents. Its possible in fact that six teams will have common records. The Big Sky may send three to the playoffs. PR gives the best argument for four, but that requires some help from the outside.

You guys are a bit ahead of yourselves is all.

Yes, this is all speculation but, with the exception of the conference champion, where anybody else lines up in the rest of the conference standings is irrelevant for who ends up in the playoffs. It's based purely off of overall record, not conference standing, for everyone except the auto-qualifier. If the BSC has three other teams, in addition to the auto-qualifier, with records, as compared to other teams across the FCS, that justify getting in then the BSC should be able to send four. If not, then only three probably get in but where anyone lands in the final BSC standings, again except for the conference champion, is irrelevant for playoff selection.

Standing aside though, who beat who in that group will decide who moves on. You make a chart out of it, its a crap shoot Do you take a team who played and beat a DII school or a team who played and beat an FBS school? If SUU finishes out They beat everyone we beat...... They finish out and we split. We lose to a team they beat. They split and we finish out we could have common losses.. And on it goes. To have a clear shot for us They have to lose ouut. The problem is if they do that NAU who beat us finishes better than we. If split, we are done even with 4 going on. Their last two games are critical as are ours, but at least a big piece of our future is in their hands. Ideally they beat the cats and lose to NAU

 

[PlayerRep]

TNT, you are wrong on most of your analysis, as well as some of your facts. For example, SU didn't beat everyone we did. They lost 21-3 to Davis; UM clobbered Davis. As others have said, the committee won't focus on conference rankings. The committee will look at the entire schedule. SU isn't going to beat both MSU and NAU. If they did, they would deserve to go to the playoffs and would be selected. MSU and NAU might be the teams in trouble then.

UM is a virtual lock of they are 9-3. The 3 losses would likely all be playoff teams. I don't think the Big Sky will get 5 teams, but it's possible that could occur under some scenarios.

 

[EverettGriz]

tnt doing some serious day- drinkin. Solid!!


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[marceagfan5]

UM is a lock for the playoffs at this point, they are in no matter what at 9-3 and you aren't losing to Weber.

I think the Griz get a seed if the following 3 things happen.

1 - Win out. If you don't beat the Cats, MSU would definitely get the nod over Griz in terms of a seed with the same record and head to head win, assuming both teams win next week.

2 - NAU needs to drop one. If NAU finishes 9-2 tough to give the Griz a seed over NAU. They would both have the same amount of losses, NAU would have a better conference record, and own the head to head.

3 - It probably helps any Big Sky team if EWU wins out. If EWU wins out they are probably the 2 or 3 seed and give the conference a little bit stronger ranking, which probably gives another Big sky team a 5-8 seed. If EWU drops one coming in, then EWU probably still wins the conference auto bid (they won't drop 2) but drops a couple spots seeding to maybe 5 or 6 and may bump the 2nd big sky team out of a seed.

Just my 2 cents. If they Griz win out, they deserve a seed. You are a lot better than you are getting credit for, especially from some of your own fans...

Also, the Big Sky has had a team in the semi's the last 5 years? Maybe more (Griz 08, 09, 11 and EWU 10, 12) plus a team in the chipper in 3 of those years. That playoff success should get the Big Sky 2 seeds and 4 teams in the playoffs.