Griz on path for a seed

[qwerty15ster]

Can three teams from the same Conference get seeded? Or does it not work that way? (Obviously EWU gets seeded, it seems the battle is between NAU and UM).

 

[EverettGriz]

Assuming UM and MSU win next week I'd assume the Brawl might be to decide who gets a seed and a bye vs who had to turn around and play again the next week.

I agree.

 

[EverettGriz]

Can three teams from the same Conference get seeded? Or does it not work that way? (Obviously EWU gets seeded, it seems the battle is between NAU and UM).

8 teams from one conference could get seeded, theoretically.

 

[Griziron]

Griziron - you said the only way UM can get a seed is if they finish second in the conference. That is not correct. That is not a rule and the the Griz are a PERFECT example of that as they have been seeded higher than several Big Sky teams who have finished tied with or who have better conference records than them in past. Second - COMPARED TO the rest of the FCS, UM is the ONLY place that has traditionally drawn well over the years. To say UM doesn't draw that well in the playoffs is absurd. 26,000 for a first-round game? No. But when it comes to attendance in the playoffs, it's MONTANA, Appy a distant second, and the rest of the FCS with terrible numbers. Remember the 09' Villanova/William & Mary Game? That was a national semifinal with about 1,100 fans.

I agree there's no rule regarding seeding vs. conference finish. My opinion is that if UM finishes 3rd in the conference, they won't get seeded. I didn't say that UM doesn't draw well in the playoffs, especially compared to other FCS teams. In 2011, UM drew just over 22,000 for the first game and a bit over 23,000 for the second. Great attendance, but 26,000 just doesn't happen.

 

[Grizzlies1982]

Can three teams from the same Conference get seeded? Or does it not work that way? (Obviously EWU gets seeded, it seems the battle is between NAU and UM).

Three teams from the same conference can be seeded. There is no limit on how many.
Though three Big Sky teams earning a seed this year seems unlikely.

 

[George Ferguson]

Attendance for recent playoff games: 2011 Central Arkansas First Round 23,005, 2011 N. Iowa Quarterfinal: 24,049; 2009 South Dakota State 1st round, 20,671; S.F. Austin Quarterfinal 21,844; App. State Semifinal: 24,89.

 

[get'em_griz]

Attendance for recent playoff games: 2011 Central Arkansas First Round 23,005, 2011 N. Iowa Quarterfinal: 24,049; 2009 South Dakota State 1st round, 20,671; S.F. Austin Quarterfinal 21,844; App. State Semifinal: 24,89.

It is truly amazing how much higher our attendance numbers are during the playoffs than 99.98% of the FCS.

 

[Robsnotes4u]

Griziron - you said the only way UM can get a seed is if they finish second in the conference. That is not correct. That is not a rule and the the Griz are a PERFECT example of that as they have been seeded higher than several Big Sky teams who have finished tied with or who have better conference records than them in past. Second - COMPARED TO the rest of the FCS, UM is the ONLY place that has traditionally drawn well over the years. To say UM doesn't draw that well in the playoffs is absurd. 26,000 for a first-round game? No. But when it comes to attendance in the playoffs, it's MONTANA, Appy a distant second, and the rest of the FCS with terrible numbers. Remember the 09' Villanova/William & Mary Game? That was a national semifinal with about 1,100 fans.

I agree there's no rule regarding seeding vs. conference finish. My opinion is that if UM finishes 3rd in the conference, they won't get seeded. I didn't say that UM doesn't draw well in the playoffs, especially compared to other FCS teams. In 2011, UM drew just over 22,000 for the first game and a bit over 23,000 for the second. Great attendance, but 26,000 just doesn't happen.

Attendance has no bearing on a NCAA decision to award a seed or a home game. It will help the University decide what they will bid to get the home game.


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[jodcon]

Attendance and facility won't make any difference when it comes to seeding, but will factor in if UM has a first-round game or by some chance meets an unseeded team later in the playoffs if they are also unseeded. Then the criteria for home games are...

As per the bylaw 31.1.3.2.1 Criteria for Site Determination in the NCAA Division I Manual, the following criteria are to be used in the evaluation of sites for all competition in NCAA championships:

(a) Quality and availability of the facility and other necessary accommodations;
(b) Revenue potential (e.g., a financial guarantee or guideline that ensures fiscal responsibility and is appropriate for the particular event, as recommended by the governing sports committee and approved by the Championships/Sports Management Cabinet);
(c) Attendance history and potential;
(d) Geographical location; and
(e) Championships operating costs.

The Griz rank very well in all those areas and would be highly likely to host a first-round game or a game of unseeded teams later in the playoffs if applicable.

But I think now with MSU, CC, and Youngstown losing the door has opened a little bit wider for the Griz to snag a seed if they win out.

 

[grizchamp]

Griziron - you said the only way UM can get a seed is if they finish second in the conference. That is not correct. That is not a rule and the the Griz are a PERFECT example of that as they have been seeded higher than several Big Sky teams who have finished tied with or who have better conference records than them in past. Second - COMPARED TO the rest of the FCS, UM is the ONLY place that has traditionally drawn well over the years. To say UM doesn't draw that well in the playoffs is absurd. 26,000 for a first-round game? No. But when it comes to attendance in the playoffs, it's MONTANA, Appy a distant second, and the rest of the FCS with terrible numbers. Remember the 09' Villanova/William & Mary Game? That was a national semifinal with about 1,100 fans.

I agree there's no rule regarding seeding vs. conference finish. My opinion is that if UM finishes 3rd in the conference, they won't get seeded. I didn't say that UM doesn't draw well in the playoffs, especially compared to other FCS teams. In 2011, UM drew just over 22,000 for the first game and a bit over 23,000 for the second. Great attendance, but 26,000 just doesn't happen.

Attendance has no bearing on a NCAA decision to award a seed or a home game. It will help the University decide what they will bid to get the home game.


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If UM is seeded, they only need to meet the minimum bid requirement for any round in which they play a lower seed or an unseeded team. The bid amount really only comes into play for a game between two unseeded teams, or if a seeded opponent team fails to bid the minimum required to guarantee the game.


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[Robsnotes4u]

Griziron - you said the only way UM can get a seed is if they finish second in the conference. That is not correct. That is not a rule and the the Griz are a PERFECT example of that as they have been seeded higher than several Big Sky teams who have finished tied with or who have better conference records than them in past. Second - COMPARED TO the rest of the FCS, UM is the ONLY place that has traditionally drawn well over the years. To say UM doesn't draw that well in the playoffs is absurd. 26,000 for a first-round game? No. But when it comes to attendance in the playoffs, it's MONTANA, Appy a distant second, and the rest of the FCS with terrible numbers. Remember the 09' Villanova/William & Mary Game? That was a national semifinal with about 1,100 fans.

I agree there's no rule regarding seeding vs. conference finish. My opinion is that if UM finishes 3rd in the conference, they won't get seeded. I didn't say that UM doesn't draw well in the playoffs, especially compared to other FCS teams. In 2011, UM drew just over 22,000 for the first game and a bit over 23,000 for the second. Great attendance, but 26,000 just doesn't happen.

Attendance has no bearing on a NCAA decision to award a seed or a home game. It will help the University decide what they will bid to get the home game.


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If UM is seeded, they only need to meet the minimum bid requirement for any round in which they play a lower seed or an unseeded team. The bid amount really only comes into play for a game between two unseeded teams, or if a seeded opponent team fails to bid the minimum required to guarantee the game.


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Correct, sir if they are seeded.


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[AZGrizFan]

I agree there's no rule regarding seeding vs. conference finish. My opinion is that if UM finishes 3rd in the conference, they won't get seeded. I didn't say that UM doesn't draw well in the playoffs, especially compared to other FCS teams. In 2011, UM drew just over 22,000 for the first game and a bit over 23,000 for the second. Great attendance, but 26,000 just doesn't happen.

Attendance has no bearing on a NCAA decision to award a seed or a home game. It will help the University decide what they will bid to get the home game.


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If UM is seeded, they only need to meet the minimum bid requirement for any round in which they play a lower seed or an unseeded team. The bid amount really only comes into play for a game between two unseeded teams, or if a seeded opponent team fails to bid the minimum required to guarantee the game.


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Correct, sir if they are seeded.

How confident are you now about that seeding conversation we had? YSU loses. MSU loses. Coastal loses. Bethune Cookman loses. Maine struggles with a HORRIBLE Albany team. Fordham loses their stud QB in a squeaker against Bucknell. It's getting a little interesting now, isn't it?

 

[firmgriz]

If the Griz win out they will get a top 8 seed at 10-2.

 

[PlayerRep]

Griziron - you said the only way UM can get a seed is if they finish second in the conference. That is not correct. That is not a rule and the the Griz are a PERFECT example of that as they have been seeded higher than several Big Sky teams who have finished tied with or who have better conference records than them in past. Second - COMPARED TO the rest of the FCS, UM is the ONLY place that has traditionally drawn well over the years. To say UM doesn't draw that well in the playoffs is absurd. 26,000 for a first-round game? No. But when it comes to attendance in the playoffs, it's MONTANA, Appy a distant second, and the rest of the FCS with terrible numbers. Remember the 09' Villanova/William & Mary Game? That was a national semifinal with about 1,100 fans.

I agree there's no rule regarding seeding vs. conference finish. My opinion is that if UM finishes 3rd in the conference, they won't get seeded. I didn't say that UM doesn't draw well in the playoffs, especially compared to other FCS teams. In 2011, UM drew just over 22,000 for the first game and a bit over 23,000 for the second. Great attendance, but 26,000 just doesn't happen.

Attendance has no bearing on a NCAA decision to award a seed or a home game. It will help the University decide what they will bid to get the home game.


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Correct on no impact on seeding. Incorrect on no impact on first round games. I assume it has also has an impact on any later games between unseeded teams.

 

[EWURanger29]

If the Griz win out they will get a top 8 seed at 10-2.

I'd say a top 4 seed wouldn't be out of the question for UM if you finish 10-2. Maybe you need a little help from someone, but a 10-2 Big Sky team has a VERY compelling case for a top 4 seed, IMO. Especially considering UM's attendance, which the NCAA coffers like.


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[tnt]

Given BSC teams performance against FBS teams from other conferences, I wouldn't hold my breath. We haven't done much to prove we are any better than a fifth level or worse. Even EWUs performance was lack luster. That loss to NAU will bite us hard. Unless we get a lot of help We fiinish behind Eastern and NAU who both beat us. Befor we worry about seeding, I'd like to knowanyone is convinced they will take 3 BSC teams, and if UM falters (say against the cats) why they would take 4?

We not only have to consider that but have to consider the stellar performance of the BSC in the playoffs the last few years.

 

[nzone]

Given BSC teams performance against FBS teams from other conferences, I wouldn't hold my breath. We haven't done much to prove we are any better than a fifth level or worse. Even EWUs performance was lack luster. That loss to NAU will bite us hard. Unless we get a lot of help We fiinish behind Eastern and NAU who both beat us. Befor we worry about seeding, I'd like to knowanyone is convinced they will take 3 BSC teams, and if UM falters (say against the cats) why they would take 4?

We not only have to consider that but have to consider the stellar performance of the BSC in the playoffs the last few years.

Good morning sunshine....just a breath of fresh air aren't you :lol: :lol:

 

[PlayerRep]

Given BSC teams performance against FBS teams from other conferences, I wouldn't hold my breath. We haven't done much to prove we are any better than a fifth level or worse. Even EWUs performance was lack luster. That loss to NAU will bite us hard. Unless we get a lot of help We fiinish behind Eastern and NAU who both beat us. Befor we worry about seeding, I'd like to knowanyone is convinced they will take 3 BSC teams, and if UM falters (say against the cats) why they would take 4?

We not only have to consider that but have to consider the stellar performance of the BSC in the playoffs the last few years.

An early season loss to NAU on the road is not going to "bite us hard", but yes it could impact playoff seeding. NAU is almost assured of being in the playoffs. Only has 11 games. Were beaten 35-0 by AZ. Were crushed by the Cats, and if UM is on the running for a seed, they will have to have beaten the Cats, 36-7. Didn't play a D-II. We'll see if NAU can take care of business at So Utah.

 

[tnt]

How many teams from the BSC, PR?

 

[griz4life]

The question for Big Sky second and third placers is who has to travel to Cheney to play EWU. If three teams get invited, one will be playing EWU in week three. On the other side of the bracket, because of the emphasis on regionalization, someone is headed to NDSU, probably in the first couple rounds.