GRIZ #5

[PlayerRep]

And Please don't tell me your all caught up in the FCS rankings which mean nothing coming into this sundays playoffs seedings. C,mon, you know those are just the media. The Griz are really around 10-14 in playoff brackets. jus being real. I love the Griz and Cats, but winner maybe IN, and Loser OUT, do the MATH.

UM is now top 10, or higher. Sorry, 10-14 isn't accurate. I couldn't find the most recent GPI, but UM was 11th last week, and 3 teams above it lost. The GPI is often a fairly good predictor of playoff selection.

Just don't see how UM could possibly drop out of playoffs with a loss to the Cats, unless perhaps it was an incredible blowout. A 9-3 team with losses only to 3 playoff teams, 2 of which are seeds, is not going to get left out. Why don't you do the math, as well as the analysis.

A loss by the UM and a win by SUU could easily leave out the Griz by the math and by the analysis. Its time to quit overlooking SUU. I'm not saying it will happen, just that it could and could easily be justified.

A 9-3 team, with losses to 3 playoff teams, including a several point loss to a top seed, is not going to get left out of the playoffs.

Why would a 9-3 team, with losses to 3 playoff teams, be a bubble team?

 

[marceagfan5]

UM is now top 10, or higher. Sorry, 10-14 isn't accurate. I couldn't find the most recent GPI, but UM was 11th last week, and 3 teams above it lost. The GPI is often a fairly good predictor of playoff selection.

Just don't see how UM could possibly drop out of playoffs with a loss to the Cats, unless perhaps it was an incredible blowout. A 9-3 team with losses only to 3 playoff teams, 2 of which are seeds, is not going to get left out. Why don't you do the math, as well as the analysis.

A loss by the UM and a win by SUU could easily leave out the Griz by the math and by the analysis. Its time to quit overlooking SUU. I'm not saying it will happen, just that it could and could easily be justified.

A 9-3 team, with losses to 3 playoff teams, including a several point loss to a top seed, is not going to get left out of the playoffs.

Why would a 9-3 team, with losses to 3 playoff teams, be a bubble team?

Shouldn't be, but an 8-3 NAU team was left out last year and they had an FBS win...

I doubt there is any situation the Griz are left out but who knows what the committee decides if that scenario even presents itself...

 

[tnt]

Why would a 9-3 team, with losses to 3 playoff teams, be a bubble team?

Because to think anything else, you would have to believe that the selection committee would first have to think like eGriz, would make totally logical decisions, not play politics, and would take 5 teams from the Big Sky.

You know and I know and even a few eGrizzers know. NONE of that describes the selection committee.

 

[Eriul]

I mean their argument for them maybe being beaten or maybe winning is that they're "kids" it's disrespectful and half these "kids" are twice the size of anyone on here. It seems stupid to call them kids. They're not kids by any stretch

a) you have no idea how large some of these posters are... :shock:
b) Since when did we start measuring "kids" by size? :? :? :?

What do you measure kids by because I'm sure most of them don't follow any definition you could put forth.

Well, the mere fact that they're large and they play football certainly doesn't qualify them to be "adults". They have almost ZERO life experience, many have never held a paying job, they have yet to experience the real world....in other words...they're kids.

Yah...This just floods ignorance. You know Chase Reynolds had a kid in High School and a second during college with a stable wife. There are numerous examples of THIS kinda story but to say someone who has a wife and kids a "kid" with a job and playing full time and going to school full time is just absurd.

 

[PlayerRep]

Why would a 9-3 team, with losses to 3 playoff teams, be a bubble team?

Because to think anything else, you would have to believe that the selection committee would first have to think like eGriz, would make totally logical decisions, not play politics, and would take 5 teams from the Big Sky.

You know and I know and even a few eGrizzers know. NONE of that describes the selection committee.

Or SU wouldn't be selected over UM.

 

[tnt]

Why would a 9-3 team, with losses to 3 playoff teams, be a bubble team?

Because to think anything else, you would have to believe that the selection committee would first have to think like eGriz, would make totally logical decisions, not play politics, and would take 5 teams from the Big Sky.

You know and I know and even a few eGrizzers know. NONE of that describes the selection committee.

Or SU wouldn't be selected on UM.

Well if SUU wins this weekend and the Griz lose they would be a 9-3 team with a loss to one play off team (beat 2 bith of whom would have beat UM) lost to a very strong FBS team beat another and lost an early season FCS team. Using you logic PR that would put them ahead of UM for selection. thus UM becomes a bubble team if they lose and SUU wins. Unless of course the selection committee takes five Big Sky schools.

I would hope we don't find out.

 

[PlayerRep]

Why would a 9-3 team, with losses to 3 playoff teams, be a bubble team?

Because to think anything else, you would have to believe that the selection committee would first have to think like eGriz, would make totally logical decisions, not play politics, and would take 5 teams from the Big Sky.

You know and I know and even a few eGrizzers know. NONE of that describes the selection committee.

Or SU wouldn't be selected on UM.

Well if SUU wins this weekend and the Griz lose they would be a 9-3 team with a loss to one play off team (beat 2 bith of whom would have beat UM) lost to a very strong FBS team beat another and lost an early season FCS team. Using you logic PR that would put them ahead of UM for selection. thus UM becomes a bubble team if they lose and SUU wins. Unless of course the selection committee takes five Big Sky schools.

I would hope we don't find out.

SU lost to Wash St, which is 5-5 (wins over SU, Idaho and Cal). Wash St is not as bad as usual, but hardly "very strong". SU doesn't get credit for losing 49-10 to WSU. SU beat So Ala, which is 3-6, by 1 point in first game of season. SU lost 21-3 to Davis in October. SU play a weak D-II team. Beat SS by 3 in OT, NC by 6, PSU and ISU by 10, Weber by 6, and MSU by 8. SU is 43rd in the SRS (UM is 13th). Ranked 20th in the latest poll. SU is 33rd in the GPI (UM is 8th). Can't find the latest GPI. SU is rated as the 44th best FCS team by Sagarin.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Because to think anything else, you would have to believe that the selection committee would first have to think like eGriz, would make totally logical decisions, not play politics, and would take 5 teams from the Big Sky.

You know and I know and even a few eGrizzers know. NONE of that describes the selection committee.

Or SU wouldn't be selected on UM.

Well if SUU wins this weekend and the Griz lose they would be a 9-3 team with a loss to one play off team (beat 2 bith of whom would have beat UM) lost to a very strong FBS team beat another and lost an early season FCS team. Using you logic PR that would put them ahead of UM for selection. thus UM becomes a bubble team if they lose and SUU wins. Unless of course the selection committee takes five Big Sky schools.

I would hope we don't find out.

SU lost to Wash St, which is 5-5 (wins over SU, Idaho and Cal). Wash St is not as bad as usual, but hardly "very strong". SU doesn't get credit for losing 49-10 to WSU. SU beat So Ala, which is 3-6, by 1 point in first game of season. SU lost 21-3 to Davis in October. SU play a weak D-II team. Beat SS by 3 in OT, NC by 6, PSU and ISU by 10, Weber by 6, and MSU by 8. SU is 43rd in the SRS (UM is 13th). Ranked 20th in the latest poll. SU is 33rd in the GPI (UM is 8th). Can't find the latest GPI. SU is rated as the 44th best FCS team by Sagarin.

I am not here to debate who gets in and who doesn't, but if SUU beats NAU and the Griz lose to MSU, I would assume all those numbers you just spouted off would be much more comparable between UM and SUU.

 

[mcg]

If the Griz lose and SUU wins, SUU will have wins over kitties, NAU and FBS game; offset by a loss to Davis. Griz best win will be Poly and PSU. In my opinion, SUU 'resume' would be superior to the Griz's. That's why SUU would be selected ahead of the Griz.

the answer of course is for the Griz to win Saturday.

Go Griz!

 

[PlayerRep]

If the Griz lose and SUU wins, SUU will have wins over kitties, NAU and FBS game; offset by a loss to Davis. Griz best win will be Poly and PSU. In my opinion, SUU 'resume' would be superior to the Griz's. That's why SUU would be selected ahead of the Griz.

the answer of course is for the Griz to win Saturday.

Go Griz!

Fortunately, your opinion means nothing to the committee. The committee looks at multiple factors, including the GPI and this year the SRS. UM's is rated far above SU in all of those ratings. A 1 point win over a bad FCS team isn't particularly meaningful. Margins of victory are also factored in, especially in the SRS. SU's margins of victory have generally been small. All of UM's FCS wins are good. UM's narrow loss to EWU is a positive.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

If the Griz lose and SUU wins, SUU will have wins over kitties, NAU and FBS game; offset by a loss to Davis. Griz best win will be Poly and PSU. In my opinion, SUU 'resume' would be superior to the Griz's. That's why SUU would be selected ahead of the Griz.

the answer of course is for the Griz to win Saturday.

Go Griz!

Fortunately, your opinion means nothing to the committee. The committee looks at multiple factors, including the GPI and this year the SRS. UM's is rated far above SU in all of those ratings. A 1 point win over a bad FCS team isn't particularly meaningful. Margins of victory are also factored in, especially in the SRS. SU's margins of victory have generally been small. All of UM's FCS wins are good. UM's narrow loss to EWU is a positive.

PR, lucky for us you seem to have the ear of the committee. Do you have them all up spending the week at the lake? I will feel as though you let Griz Nation down if they are not the #1 seed when the brackets are announced on Sunday.

 

[PlayerRep]

If the Griz lose and SUU wins, SUU will have wins over kitties, NAU and FBS game; offset by a loss to Davis. Griz best win will be Poly and PSU. In my opinion, SUU 'resume' would be superior to the Griz's. That's why SUU would be selected ahead of the Griz.

the answer of course is for the Griz to win Saturday.

Go Griz!

Fortunately, your opinion means nothing to the committee. The committee looks at multiple factors, including the GPI and this year the SRS. UM's is rated far above SU in all of those ratings. A 1 point win over a bad FCS team isn't particularly meaningful. Margins of victory are also factored in, especially in the SRS. SU's margins of victory have generally been small. All of UM's FCS wins are good. UM's narrow loss to EWU is a positive.

PR, lucky for us you seem to have the ear of the committee. Do you have them all up spending the week at the lake? I will feel as though you let Griz Nation down if they are not the #1 seed when the brackets are announced on Sunday.

Were you not aware that the committee doesn't search message boards for the opinions of posters?

Were you not aware that the committee does more than just look at team's records to see who they beat or didn't beat, and that they factor in things like margins of victory?

Were you not aware that the committee looks at things like the GPI and will look at the SRS this year?

 

[AZGrizFan]

a) you have no idea how large some of these posters are... :shock:
b) Since when did we start measuring "kids" by size? :? :? :?

What do you measure kids by because I'm sure most of them don't follow any definition you could put forth.

Well, the mere fact that they're large and they play football certainly doesn't qualify them to be "adults". They have almost ZERO life experience, many have never held a paying job, they have yet to experience the real world....in other words...they're kids.

Yah...This just floods ignorance. You know Chase Reynolds had a kid in High School and a second during college with a stable wife. There are numerous examples of THIS kinda story but to say someone who has a wife and kids a "kid" with a job and playing full time and going to school full time is just absurd.

Yeah, nothing like using anecdotal evidence to prove a flawed point. Talk about ignorance. :roll: :roll:

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

If the Griz lose and SUU wins, SUU will have wins over kitties, NAU and FBS game; offset by a loss to Davis. Griz best win will be Poly and PSU. In my opinion, SUU 'resume' would be superior to the Griz's. That's why SUU would be selected ahead of the Griz.

the answer of course is for the Griz to win Saturday.

Go Griz!

Fortunately, your opinion means nothing to the committee. The committee looks at multiple factors, including the GPI and this year the SRS. UM's is rated far above SU in all of those ratings. A 1 point win over a bad FCS team isn't particularly meaningful. Margins of victory are also factored in, especially in the SRS. SU's margins of victory have generally been small. All of UM's FCS wins are good. UM's narrow loss to EWU is a positive.

PR, lucky for us you seem to have the ear of the committee. Do you have them all up spending the week at the lake? I will feel as though you let Griz Nation down if they are not the #1 seed when the brackets are announced on Sunday.

Were you not aware that the committee doesn't search message boards for the opinions of posters?

Were you not aware that the committee does more than just look at team's records to see who they beat or didn't beat, and that they factor in things like margins of victory?

Were you not aware that the committee looks at things like the GPI and will look at the SRS this year?

PR, I just assumed by your post, and wording of it, that your opinion had much more weight than any opinion of mcg. Your post made it sound like you have first hand info on everything the committee does, so I figured you were on a first name basis with committee members, and maybe even a godfather to one of their kids. My bad, please carry on.