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oGriz said:
I remember in the 1950s the smell of Missoula in the morning, and I worked in the mills when I was younger. It doesn't matter that the mills are not prominent any more. Ever hear of Plumb Creek clear cuts? Missoula used to have streetcars. You want to bring them back? (Oh, Mountain Line studying that http://missoulian.com/news/local/mountain-line-looks-at-bringing-streetcars-back-to-missoula/article_e15fb33a-0903-11e1-9914-001cc4c002e0.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;)

Skookum-Jim: "What's left of Montana is essentially a bunch of people running around posing as fly fisherman and hobby ranchers. You all need a hunting season on real estate developers."
Oh, man. Too funny.
I believe there are hundreds of mill workers and many more folks who relied on their business who would disagree with you that it doesn't matter that the mills are shut down. The emissions were drastically improved and getting better. When was the last time you checked out one of those clearcuts? They are the healthiest areas of our forests, not quite the devastation and barren earth result that the dommsayers predicted. Besides, clearcutting was already on the way out when the bottom fell out. I never blamed the crunchies for the end of the timber industry here, I just said that they are the ones who took over the town, and as a result the economy has suffered. Debating logging with native Missoulians is bound to get heated, and comparing a cable car to an industry that ran our economy for over half a century is ridiculous.

BTW, why didn't they put the countries pre-eminent forestry school in Forks, Washington?
 
Missoula most certainly did have a timber economy, as did every community along the Clark Fork from Deer Lodge to Noxon. It's absurd to suggest otherwise.
Nor is it accurate the say Montana is only flyfishermen and hobby ranchers.. That's an insult to the people who raise your food, refine your fuel and keep your lights on. Oh yeah, we eat the fish we catch, too.
 
Skookum-Jim said:
JBS said:
Missoula at it's core is a logging town.
Oh gawd! Missoula a logging town? You and Kem are a real pair. Missoula is not now nor has it ever been a logging town. The hippies in the 70's were certainly not loggers or mill workers. Some of them may have had forest service jobs piling brush, clearing trails or fire crews but that aint logging. The only reason the tiny logging industry was ever run out of town is because what little timber you had in yellow pine and small tamarack was mismanaged and taken. You are now left with jack pine thickets, brush fires and smoke. If you want to see timber go to forks Washington or better yet come visit Williams Lake British Columbia.
What's left of Montana is essentially a bunch of people running around posing as fly fisherman and hobby ranchers. You all need a hunting season on real estate developers.

With no response, it looks like the facts and logic have Spookumed-Jim into silence. :thumb:
 
Missoula is working hard to become the Boulder Colorado of Montana. An elite who are able to live within the city limits, driving their bikes to their non-profit job to save the whales, rainforest, etc. so they can feel good about themselves. Meanwhile, the people who work in their locavore stores have to get a trailer in Frenchtown, Lolo or Bonner because they can't afford the utopia that has been created.
 
fencer24 said:
Missoula is working hard to become the Boulder Colorado of Montana. An elite who are able to live within the city limits, driving their bikes to their non-profit job to save the whales, rainforest, etc. so they can feel good about themselves. Meanwhile, the people who work in their locavore stores have to get a trailer in Frenchtown, Lolo or Bonner because they can't afford the utopia that has been created.

There aint no non profit businesses in Missoula, what are you talking about?


:lol:
 
Jerry Punch said:
No one is telling Missoulians to change their lifestyle or conform to the "shithole" cities outside of it. We're merely pointing out the fact that Missoula is not the utopia so many Missoulians believe it is. For a glimpse into the mindset of the local economic brain trust, there is an excellent article in today's Missoulian with lots of "ideas" on how to bring benefits from the Bakken to Missoula.
I read the article..no shock to me on the paragraphs of pure "rhetoric" on nothing. How long can people pay someone to do absolutely nothing :rip: ????? U.F.B. :egriz:
 
yellowstone60 said:
Jerry Punch said:
grizcountry420 said:
Jerry Punch said:
No one is telling Missoulians to change their lifestyle or conform to the "shithole" cities outside of it. We're merely pointing out the fact that Missoula is not the utopia so many Missoulians believe it is. For a glimpse into the mindset of the local economic brain trust, there is an excellent article in today's Missoulian with lots of "ideas" on how to bring benefits from the Bakken to Missoula.

I found that funny too... Drilling for oil in Montana will never explode like it did over in North Dakota. There are too many regulations in Montana. There are very few regulations in ND and Wyoming, thats why they're all over there drilling because they dont have all the tree huggers breathing down their necks...

That, and despite what many Missoulians believe, Missoula is not the center of Montana.


yep, that would probably be in Fergus County, 11 miles W of Lewistown. Longitude: 109(degrees) 38.3'W Latitude: 41(degrees) 1.9'N :thumb:
You can draw a line from Havre through Lewistown to Laurel to disect the state. That puts Bozeman 127 miles into western MT, in spite of Missoulians continually referring to it as in eastern MT. Billings barely into eastern MT....
 
kemajic said:
yellowstone60 said:
Jerry Punch said:
grizcountry420 said:
I found that funny too... Drilling for oil in Montana will never explode like it did over in North Dakota. There are too many regulations in Montana. There are very few regulations in ND and Wyoming, thats why they're all over there drilling because they dont have all the tree huggers breathing down their necks...

That, and despite what many Missoulians believe, Missoula is not the center of Montana.


yep, that would probably be in Fergus County, 11 miles W of Lewistown. Longitude: 109(degrees) 38.3'W Latitude: 41(degrees) 1.9'N :thumb:
You can draw a line from Havre through Lewistown to Laurel to disect the state. That puts Bozeman 127 miles into western MT, in spite of Missoulians continually referring to it as in eastern MT. Billings barely into eastern MT....
Born and raised in Billings, and have lived all over this great state. I now live in Missoula, I take the good with the bad and basically choose to ignore the down side of this community, as I would anywhere else. All of the great things in Montana far outweigh the bad. I love this state from border to border and just happen to be a Griz fan, always have been, always will be.
 
I would also like to join the "ban Ursa Major" movement. He hates freedom. He might even be a member of a minority. Wait, I don't mean "member" like that. Anyway, please ban him ASAP. Thank you.
 
i too believe ursa should be band.

*whethermon - have you forgotten the correct egriz spelling of band? are you ursa in disguise? hmmm.
 
argh! said:
i too believe ursa should be band.

*whethermon - have you forgotten the correct egriz spelling of band? are you ursa in disguise? hmmm.

I apologize - I only used "ban" in the present tense. Of course he should be band.
 
AllWeatherFan said:
I would also like to join the "ban Ursa Major" movement. He hates freedom. He might even be a member of a minority. Wait, I don't mean "member" like that. Anyway, please ban him ASAP. Thank you.

It's gratifying to have you and argh! on board. Ursa's hate-laced vitriolic posting style is beyond the pale. I hadn't even considered that he may be a member of a minority but in looking back at many of his posts, it starts to become pretty obvious. Fool me once...
 
snap said:
AllWeatherFan said:
I would also like to join the "ban Ursa Major" movement. He hates freedom. He might even be a member of a minority. Wait, I don't mean "member" like that. Anyway, please ban him ASAP. Thank you.

It's gratifying to have you and argh! on board. Ursa's hate-laced vitriolic posting style is beyond the pale. I hadn't even considered that he may be a member of a minority but in looking back at many of his posts, it starts to become pretty obvious. Fool me once...

+4

I say ban that "know it all" piece of shit! I'm so sick and tired of that douche. Problem is he'll likely show back up in a day or two with some cleaver new user name.
 
Seriously, people.


It's time we dump worthless posters like Ursa. He's never brought one ounce of value to this board. Even on the Bench all he does is post a bunch of damn music videos.

Now, what this board desperate needs is more level-headed posters like Mursa Uajor. Sir, it's a pleasure to have you on our board. Please post more often.
 
Mursa. Welcome to e-griz. I think once you've been around this board for awhile you'll find that it'll take a whole lot more than just changing user-names to fool the mods. They've set and maintained a very high standard for quite a few years. Just let 'em do their jobs.

Everett. Looks like I had you pegged wrong. I'm embarrassed to admit I've been lobbying for you to be band for about a year now. I hope you'll accept my apology.
 
think once you've been around this board for awhile you'll find that it'll take a whole lot more than just changing user-names to fool the mods. They've set and maintained a very high standard for quite a few years.

:lol: :clap:
 
snap said:
Mursa. Welcome to e-griz. I think once you've been around this board for awhile you'll find that it'll take a whole lot more than just changing user-names to fool the mods. They've set and maintained a very high standard for quite a few years. Just let 'em do their jobs.

Everett. Looks like I had you pegged wrong. I'm embarrassed to admit I've been lobbying for you to be band for about a year now. I hope you'll accept my apology.

That's piss your pants funny!
 
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