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Ashamed

Ashamed

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http://missoulian.com/news/local/proposal-would-reduce-south-fifth-sixth-to-one-lane-with/article_23f65b04-e5d5-11e2-8d7f-0019bb2963f4.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Drivers will slow down and bikers will have more elbow room.

That’s the idea behind a proposal on the table to take South Fifth and Sixth streets to one lane and beef up the road for bikes from Higgins Avenue to Russell Street.
 
Jesus fucking christ...this is nothing but this town trying to lower property values and make it nothing but pedestrian/bicyclist traffic. This city council and mayor and everyone else needs to go.
 
Ashamed said:
http://missoulian.com/news/local/proposal-would-reduce-south-fifth-sixth-to-one-lane-with/article_23f65b04-e5d5-11e2-8d7f-0019bb2963f4.html

Drivers will slow down and bikers will have more elbow room.

That’s the idea behind a proposal on the table to take South Fifth and Sixth streets to one lane and beef up the road for bikes from Higgins Avenue to Russell Street.
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Good idea, get some of these lazy effs out of their trucks.
 
I saw this the other day.. Mayor McCheese is probably the worst thing to happen to Missoula in a long time. This guy couldn't find his way out of a paper bag, much less run a city. 5th and 6th streets are two of the busiest streets in town once you're East of Orange street.. cutting them down to one lane is going to make navigating near downtown a bigger pile of crap than it already is. And we're doing this for what.. the 6 months of the year when bikers can actually ride their bikes around town without dodging snow piles? Good lord.
 
I'm not saying the 5th/6th Street diet proposal is good policy, but Missoula has been damn fortunate to have Mayor Engen. He is an excellent Mayor, politician and person, and he will be very successful if someday he has greater aspirations than Missoula mayor. He will be missed when his service as Missoula mayor is complete.

Go Griz!
 
If they put in those bike lanes, I sure hope to be on one of these things while slamming booze en route to the stadium
bicycle-pub.jpg
 
firmgriz said:
I'm not saying the 5th/6th Street diet proposal is good policy, but Missoula has been damn fortunate to have Mayor Engen. He is an excellent Mayor, politician and person, and he will be very successful if someday he has greater aspirations than Missoula mayor. He will be missed when his service as Missoula mayor is complete.

Go Griz!
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I hope you are joking. By almost any measure, the Missoula economy has suffered under his leadership. Before you start telling me it was all part of a national trend, I would point you to other cities with diversified economies that have weathered the storm during the same time period. Engen suffers from a lack of diverse ideas. He is completely single-minded in his approach to the business community - if it doesn't fit the "keep Missoula weird" mold, the business shouldn't be part of the local economy. That's fine for the mayor and fine for the citizens who agree, but bad for everyone else in Missoula who would truly benefit from an expanded and more diverse economy.

As for higher aspirations, I again hope you are joking. You'll have to name one state-wide elected official who came from Missoula in the last 20 years. Bullock? No. Fox? No. Schweitzer? No. Tester? No. What do they all have in common? All but Fox are Democrats from somewhere outside of Missoula. The Missoula stigma, carried on proudly by guys like Engen, is a complete liability to state wide elected office.
 
Jerry Punch said:
firmgriz said:
I'm not saying the 5th/6th Street diet proposal is good policy, but Missoula has been damn fortunate to have Mayor Engen. He is an excellent Mayor, politician and person, and he will be very successful if someday he has greater aspirations than Missoula mayor. He will be missed when his service as Missoula mayor is complete.

Go Griz!
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I hope you are joking. By almost any measure, the Missoula economy has suffered under his leadership. Before you start telling me it was all part of a national trend, I would point you to other cities with diversified economies that have weathered the storm during the same time period. Engen suffers from a lack of diverse ideas. He is completely single-minded in his approach to the business community - if it doesn't fit the "keep Missoula weird" mold, the business shouldn't be part of the local economy. That's fine for the mayor and fine for the citizens who agree, but bad for everyone else in Missoula who would truly benefit from an expanded and more diverse economy.






As for higher aspirations, I again hope you are joking. You'll have to name one state-wide elected official who came from Missoula in the last 20 years. Bullock? No. Fox? No. Schweitzer? No. Tester? No. What do they all have in common? All but Fox are Democrats from somewhere outside of Missoula. The Missoula stigma, carried on proudly by guys like Engen, is a complete liability to state wide elected office.
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I agree. Excellent post!
 
Jerry Punch said:
firmgriz said:
I'm not saying the 5th/6th Street diet proposal is good policy, but Missoula has been damn fortunate to have Mayor Engen. He is an excellent Mayor, politician and person, and he will be very successful if someday he has greater aspirations than Missoula mayor. He will be missed when his service as Missoula mayor is complete.

Go Griz!
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I hope you are joking. By almost any measure, the Missoula economy has suffered under his leadership. Before you start telling me it was all part of a national trend, I would point you to other cities with diversified economies that have weathered the storm during the same time period. Engen suffers from a lack of diverse ideas. He is completely single-minded in his approach to the business community - if it doesn't fit the "keep Missoula weird" mold, the business shouldn't be part of the local economy. That's fine for the mayor and fine for the citizens who agree, but bad for everyone else in Missoula who would truly benefit from an expanded and more diverse economy.

As for higher aspirations, I again hope you are joking. You'll have to name one state-wide elected official who came from Missoula in the last 20 years. Bullock? No. Fox? No. Schweitzer? No. Tester? No. What do they all have in common? All but Fox are Democrats from somewhere outside of Missoula. The Missoula stigma, carried on proudly by guys like Engen, is a complete liability to state wide elected office.
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it doesn't help that missoula has a dysfunctional economic development office. if you want the perfect example of no vision for a county just look at the county leadership to the south.
 
I think it's a great, progressive idea.... Makes driving less convenient and walking or biking more convenient. It encourages alternative transportation.
 
hm.grwn.grizfan said:
I think it's a great, progressive idea.... Makes driving less convenient and walking or biking more convenient. It encourages alternative transportation.
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That is bullshit. Bicyclists are some of the worst people in this town. They feel entitled to do as they please and everyone else to get out of their way. When was the last time you saw one of these scumbags get a ticket?

You, sir, can presently go fuck yourself.
 
hm.grwn.grizfan said:
I think it's a great, progressive idea.... Makes driving less convenient and walking or biking more convenient. It encourages alternative transportation.
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Walking and biking are "progressive"? That is what people did before the invention of the automobile therefore it is by definition "regressive". Or is the progressive agenda just the next episode of "Back to the Future"?

A progressive concept in my opinion would be one that accommodates the reality that people need jobs and so businesses need customers with reasonable access to them while doing its best to limit the impact on he environment, i.e., promotes sustainability. I think the progressives would like to turn Missoula into a big park where everyone works for the government and walks or bikes to their jobs. All of the greedy capitalists can just take their degenerate businesses elsewhere. Now THAT is a vision of Missoula's future and why I will not have a realistic chance to live there again until after I retire.
 
Ashamed said:
hm.grwn.grizfan said:
I think it's a great, progressive idea.... Makes driving less convenient and walking or biking more convenient. It encourages alternative transportation.
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That is bullshit. Bicyclists are some of the worst people in this town. They feel entitled to do as they please and everyone else to get out of their way. When was the last time you saw one of these scumbags get a ticket?

You, sir, can presently go f*** yourself.
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And when was the last time you had seen one of those scumbags stop at a light or a stop sign?
 
hm.grwn.grizfan said:
I think it's a great, progressive idea.... Makes driving less convenient and walking or biking more convenient. It encourages alternative transportation.
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It's almost the same thing as making someone walk 2 miles before going to the bathroom instead of having one right next to their office. It would make using the restroom less convenient, thus forcing someone to use the compost outhouse so proudly trumpeted by Missoula progressives. To me, that's just a crappy idea.
 
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