Could Montana's Brady Gustafson Be the Next Carson Wentz?

[casewinter13]

Almost nothing said on this board can be proved. However, what I posted does prove that you have no clue what you are talking about on football or Griz football, or on this subject. Let's see if you can "prove" me wrong. Ha. What an idiot you are.

You stated the Griz would have won if BG started at UNC to which I called that nothing but speculation, which it is. You then stated that is how the players feel to support your statement. I never debated that players felt that way, what I said was that no matter how they feel, it is still speculative by all, which it is. It doesn't even matter what I do or don't know. You then try to talk about all the sacks that Chalich took, which once again does not have any bearing whatsoever on what the outcome would have been had BG started. Not sure what you want me to prove you wrong about other than you not understanding what opinion, speculation, conjecture, and assumption are. Seems to me you are the idiot.

As I said, I will take the views of players over your uninformed and unknowledgeable speculation anytime. Feel free to babble on. You are the one speculating, not me.

You do realize that even if the players feel that way, it is still speculation on there part. And by you stating what they told you, is just you stating their opinion. Which of course does not mean they win either of those games if BG starts at UNC. It just seems to make you feel good because a couple players shared there opinion, assumption, speculation, that they could have won both games. It doesn't change the reality that they didn't.

Haha wow, I think we need to let this one go before he has us debating the definition of "is". Some people are incapable of admitting they put their foot in their mouth.

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[Igotgoodsources]

Talking about wins.... player rep and his humility are back at it!

 

[PlayerRep]

You might want to look up the definition of "speculation". I do not think that word means what you think it means.

spec·u·la·tion
ˌspekyəˈlāSH(ə)n/
noun
1.
the forming of a theory or conjecture without firm evidence.

con·jec·ture
kənˈjekCHər
noun
1.
an opinion or conclusion formed on the basis of incomplete information.

synonyms: speculation, guesswork, surmise, fancy, presumption, assumption, theory, postulation, supposition

I threw in conjecture for free.

Players thinking BG should have started and would have won the game is neither speculation, conjecture, lacking firm evidence, guesswork, etc. HHH, you just proved yourself wrong, in fact completely wrong. Thx.

Players thinking he should've started certainly isn't speculation-it's opinion. Assuming he would've won is also opinion and the definition of speculation... How do you get a law degree and not know that? Educated guesses are still guesses.

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No, it is a fact that some players believed BG should have started and the team would have won the UNC. That is not speculation. That is fact.

Happy to put my education, intellect and legal accomplishments up against anything you have or have done anytime.

 

[fanofzoo]

spec·u·la·tion
ˌspekyəˈlāSH(ə)n/
noun
1.
the forming of a theory or conjecture without firm evidence.

con·jec·ture
kənˈjekCHər
noun
1.
an opinion or conclusion formed on the basis of incomplete information.

synonyms: speculation, guesswork, surmise, fancy, presumption, assumption, theory, postulation, supposition

I threw in conjecture for free.

Players thinking BG should have started and would have won the game is neither speculation, conjecture, lacking firm evidence, guesswork, etc. HHH, you just proved yourself wrong, in fact completely wrong. Thx.

Players thinking he should've started certainly isn't speculation-it's opinion. Assuming he would've won is also opinion and the definition of speculation... How do you get a law degree and not know that? Educated guesses are still guesses.

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No, it is a fact that some players believed BG should have started and the team would have won the UNC. That is not speculation. That is fact.

Happy to put my education, intellect and legal accomplishments up against anything you have or have done anytime.

Please , now you sound like donald (small d). Stick with just the ed. and legal.

 

[horribilisfan8184]

spec·u·la·tion
ˌspekyəˈlāSH(ə)n/
noun
1.
the forming of a theory or conjecture without firm evidence.

con·jec·ture
kənˈjekCHər
noun
1.
an opinion or conclusion formed on the basis of incomplete information.

synonyms: speculation, guesswork, surmise, fancy, presumption, assumption, theory, postulation, supposition

I threw in conjecture for free.

Players thinking BG should have started and would have won the game is neither speculation, conjecture, lacking firm evidence, guesswork, etc. HHH, you just proved yourself wrong, in fact completely wrong. Thx.

Players thinking he should've started certainly isn't speculation-it's opinion. Assuming he would've won is also opinion and the definition of speculation... How do you get a law degree and not know that? Educated guesses are still guesses.

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No, it is a fact that some players believed BG should have started and the team would have won the UNC. That is not speculation. That is fact.

Happy to put my education, intellect and legal accomplishments up against anything you have or have done anytime.

Actually, stating what the players said to you is hearsay, restating their speculative opinions. Objection sustained on multiple grounds. That said, it is interesting to note how the players felt on the subject.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

That said, it is interesting to note how some of the players felt on the subject.

FIFY.

 

[Silvertip]

Player Rep is nothing if not double-jointed...how else could he manage to incessantly pat his own back?

 

[AZGrizFan]

spec·u·la·tion
ˌspekyəˈlāSH(ə)n/
noun
1.
the forming of a theory or conjecture without firm evidence.

con·jec·ture
kənˈjekCHər
noun
1.
an opinion or conclusion formed on the basis of incomplete information.

synonyms: speculation, guesswork, surmise, fancy, presumption, assumption, theory, postulation, supposition

I threw in conjecture for free.

Players thinking BG should have started and would have won the game is neither speculation, conjecture, lacking firm evidence, guesswork, etc. HHH, you just proved yourself wrong, in fact completely wrong. Thx.

Don't put this on the players, man.

YOU said this:

[...]BG should have been the qb in the No Colo game. UM would have won that game and the Cat game. How's that? Is that what you were expecting?

Players told me. That's what I based my speculation on.

FIFY :lol: :lol:

 

[ordigger]

However, it is far from speculation.

Actually, it is nothing but speculation.

You're speculating that its speculation.

 

[ordigger]

Post by ordigger » Fri Jun 17, 2016 4:04 pm

If he can be consistent, he will be better than Carson Wentz who is the most overrated QB coming out of the FCS in history.

So interesting to go back to year old posts to get a sense of recognition of a posters sanity.

Wentz has played one year, he should have been in the Super Bowl and MVP based on all the SPECULATION last year. I also understand reading comprehension is obviously not your strong suit. I'd explain what the words IF & CONSISTENT are to you, but I'll leave that to HHH and his dictionary skills.

Although it could be worse, I could be a troll like you.

 

[Ursus1]

Bottom line is player believes Stitt's decision cost the team two wins, and playoffs. Going to be chilly at the next QB club meeting between those two......

 

[casewinter13]

Players thinking BG should have started and would have won the game is neither speculation, conjecture, lacking firm evidence, guesswork, etc. HHH, you just proved yourself wrong, in fact completely wrong. Thx.

Players thinking he should've started certainly isn't speculation-it's opinion. Assuming he would've won is also opinion and the definition of speculation... How do you get a law degree and not know that? Educated guesses are still guesses.

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No, it is a fact that some players believed BG should have started and the team would have won the UNC. That is not speculation. That is fact.

Happy to put my education, intellect and legal accomplishments up against anything you have or have done anytime.

Actually, stating what the players said to you is hearsay, restating their speculative opinions. Objection sustained on multiple grounds. That said, it is interesting to note how the players felt on the subject.

Comprehension appears to be a challenge for such a high-minded scholar. THAT the players said it would be hearsay, genius, if all we had was one posters word (and I'm not implying that is the case)... Not fact. The subject matter of what they may have said would be called opinion, which is what I said. They believe those games go down as Ws if Brady plays. Opinion! Now please, do some mental gymnastics to parse my words and redefine opinion. I can't wait for a clever response. Be a lot easier to just say, " my bad, you're right...I misunderstood".

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[sdk.catfish]

After his junior varsity tennis match this weekend my nephew said to me (fact that he said it) that he would have won his doubles match if he had a different partner. The veracity of that claim could be considered his opinion or speculative. My opinion, after watching the match, was that his speculative opinion was incorrect. I find a lot of similarities with those Griz players thinking the outcome of last season would have been different had BG played. You are what your record says you are.

 

[horribilisfan8184]

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[AZGrizFan]

I have nothing more to add except space on the thread to help it reach page 17.

No way. :lol: :lol:

 

[SACCAT66]

I have nothing more to add except space on the thread to help it reach page 17.

No way. :lol: :lol:

Are we all talking about this guy?

 

[BadlandsGrizFan]

I have nothing more to add except space on the thread to help it reach page 17.

No way. :lol: :lol:

Are we all talking about this guy?

Ya, he should have went in the 4th round as Tom Bradys heir to the thrown according to some Ivy league educated posters here on Egriz.....Canada will be a good place for him to be a backup in my opinion. And I admit that its only and opinion and not a fact. lol

 

[SACCAT66]

I have nothing more to add except space on the thread to help it reach page 17.

No way. :lol: :lol:

Are we all talking about this guy?

Ya, he should have went in the 4th round as Tom Bradys heir to the thrown according to some Ivy league educated posters here on Egriz.....Canada will be a good place for him to be a backup in my opinion. And I admit that its only and opinion and not a fact. lol

NOPE!!! You are wrong. It actually is a FACT that it is your opinion.

 

[garizzalies]

The funniest thing about PR's delusional posts is not that a third grader can tell he's wrong, it's that he took the uncle Rico theory even farther. Most times you will hear, "if he started, we would have won." A third grader knows that is speculation. But PR doesn't stop there. He claims if BG started the week prior, @NCU, BG would have beat the cats the next week--a game BG did in fact start. When you deny the actual truth and live in some alternate universe, it's beyond speculation and into the realm of unadulterated crazy-talk.

 

[PlayerRep]

The funniest thing about PR's delusional posts is not that a third grader can tell he's wrong, it's that he took the uncle Rico theory even farther. Most times you will hear, "if he started, we would have won." A third grader knows that is speculation. But PR doesn't stop there. He claims if BG started the week prior, @NCU, BG would have beat the cats the next week--a game BG did in fact start. When you deny the actual truth and live in some alternate universe, it's beyond speculation and into the realm of unadulterated crazy-talk.

So, I take it that you don't think that playing your best player at key positions, like QB, increases the chances of a team winning? You don't think that indicating that a QB and captain would start, and then not starting him, doesn't impact him and others on the team? You don't believe in momentum, i.e. a win at UNC helping propel UM to a win the next week? You don't believe a loss by UM at UNC, didn't give MSU my reason for more hope, seeing that the Griz were more beatable than they may have thought? You don't think that giving a player coming back from injury an earlier game to get back to game-ready condition is helpful? Hum, smells like a never-played-the-gamer.

What's your basis for saying that UM would have lost against UNC if BG had started/played? Let's see your "speculation". And let's see your explanation for saying that had UM and BG beaten UNC, that they wouldn't have beaten the Cats.

Do you really think that key players and captains on a football team are not generally in better positions to talk about games, than fans on a message board? Talk about posters with high opinions of themselves, thinking that they know more about particular games and outcomes than players on the team.