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Could Montana's Brady Gustafson Be the Next Carson Wentz?

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SACCAT66 said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
SACCAT66 said:
AZGrizFan said:
I told you so. 8-) 8-)


So.... This guy should have played at UNC

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But this guy didn't play him....

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So you lost to this team the next week...

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Is that what we are talking about?

That is the assumption.

OH!!! And then...Some of these guys....

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told player rep a FACT!!

Actually, they shared their opinion.
 
PlayerRep said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
PlayerRep said:
Then, I take it that you are admitting the Griz would have been a different team against the Cats had they come into the Cat game with the momentum of a win (and not a loss) and BG would have been playing his second game after his injury (instead of his first).

This is all predicated on your assumption that BG would have led them to a victory at UNC.

PlayerRep said:
You know what team momentum is, right? You know the role of getting the kinks out and back into a rhythm is for a player, especially a QB, right?

Again, this is you stating your assumption that BG would have played better against MSU if he would have played at UNC.

PlayerRep said:
One of the reason that many of your posts have no credibility with me, is that they are based "on your own eyes". Don't think your eyes are very good for football.

As opposed to your assumptions based on your own eyes and by your self confessed hearsay of others opinions.

Yes, yes and yes. That is what I have been saying all along. And yes, players/starters on the Griz gave me the info. Glad you were able to state what I had already said several times. You're a bit slow but you finally got it.

You do realize that my stance from the beginning was that you were making assumptions based on opinions of a few football players. Along the way you added such gems as the old "he was rusty" and "Chalich was sacked too often" to support your "they would have won both games" assumption. Seems I was "getting it" right from the start. Glad you caught up.
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
PlayerRep said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
PlayerRep said:
Then, I take it that you are admitting the Griz would have been a different team against the Cats had they come into the Cat game with the momentum of a win (and not a loss) and BG would have been playing his second game after his injury (instead of his first).

This is all predicated on your assumption that BG would have led them to a victory at UNC.

PlayerRep said:
You know what team momentum is, right? You know the role of getting the kinks out and back into a rhythm is for a player, especially a QB, right?

Again, this is you stating your assumption that BG would have played better against MSU if he would have played at UNC.

PlayerRep said:
One of the reason that many of your posts have no credibility with me, is that they are based "on your own eyes". Don't think your eyes are very good for football.

As opposed to your assumptions based on your own eyes and by your self confessed hearsay of others opinions.

Yes, yes and yes. That is what I have been saying all along. And yes, players/starters on the Griz gave me the info. Glad you were able to state what I had already said several times. You're a bit slow but you finally got it.

You do realize that my stance from the beginning was that you were making assumptions based on opinions of a few football players. Along the way you added such gems as the old "he was rusty" and "Chalich was sacked too often" to support your "they would have won both games" assumption. Seems I was "getting it" right from the start. Glad you caught up.

Nope, glad you caught up. Mr. Never Played the Gamer.
 
PlayerRep said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
PlayerRep said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
This is all predicated on your assumption that BG would have led them to a victory at UNC.



Again, this is you stating your assumption that BG would have played better against MSU if he would have played at UNC.



As opposed to your assumptions based on your own eyes and by your self confessed hearsay of others opinions.

Yes, yes and yes. That is what I have been saying all along. And yes, players/starters on the Griz gave me the info. Glad you were able to state what I had already said several times. You're a bit slow but you finally got it.

You do realize that my stance from the beginning was that you were making assumptions based on opinions of a few football players. Along the way you added such gems as the old "he was rusty" and "Chalich was sacked too often" to support your "they would have won both games" assumption. Seems I was "getting it" right from the start. Glad you caught up.

Nope, glad you caught up. Mr. Never Played the Gamer.

HA HA!!! That's right Helenahandbasket!! You never played the game. So you can't talk to players about what they think...well...you can, but they would probably be like "hold on...did you play the game? I don't know if I can tell you secret things about stuff we think in the locker room on our own...you know...if you didn't play the game" i am paraphrasing, so don't call this FACT.
 
PlayerRep said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
PlayerRep said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
This is all predicated on your assumption that BG would have led them to a victory at UNC.



Again, this is you stating your assumption that BG would have played better against MSU if he would have played at UNC.



As opposed to your assumptions based on your own eyes and by your self confessed hearsay of others opinions.

Yes, yes and yes. That is what I have been saying all along. And yes, players/starters on the Griz gave me the info. Glad you were able to state what I had already said several times. You're a bit slow but you finally got it.

You do realize that my stance from the beginning was that you were making assumptions based on opinions of a few football players. Along the way you added such gems as the old "he was rusty" and "Chalich was sacked too often" to support your "they would have won both games" assumption. Seems I was "getting it" right from the start. Glad you caught up.

Nope, glad you caught up. Mr. Never Played the Gamer.

You know PR is full of shit every time he has to use the "never played the game" post because he has no logical rebuttal because all he has been spewing is shit. He also has no idea of my background, and the hint would be his assumption is once again poor.
 
God damn it, having only played back in the Woody Hayes era this is hard to follow. Guess my intellect isn't what it used to be.
 
HHH, feel free to explain how you disagree that playing your starting and best QB, coming into the Cat game with a win (and not a disappointing loss), and not having your starting QB playing his second game back from injury rather than his first, does not increase the chances of winning.

I sometimes use the never-played-the-game card with people who I truly believe say dumb things and indicate that they never played the game and don't understand the game. This applies to you, in my view.

Regarding my first para, let me help you. Just confirm and say this:

No, I don't agree that playing your starter and best QB increases the chances of winning, and explain why.

No, I don't agree that coming into the Cat game with a win (and not a bad loss) brings momentum and increases the chances of winning.

No, I don't agree that having the team's starter playing in his 2d game coming back from injury, is better than playing his 1st game back from injury, and explain why.

No, I don't agree that a qb averaging 309 yards (6th best in the nation), with a 66% completion percentage, with a142 passing rating, with 25 TD's in 9 games, and averaging considerably less than 2 sacks per game, is not good.
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
PlayerRep said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
PlayerRep said:
Yes, yes and yes. That is what I have been saying all along. And yes, players/starters on the Griz gave me the info. Glad you were able to state what I had already said several times. You're a bit slow but you finally got it.

You do realize that my stance from the beginning was that you were making assumptions based on opinions of a few football players. Along the way you added such gems as the old "he was rusty" and "Chalich was sacked too often" to support your "they would have won both games" assumption. Seems I was "getting it" right from the start. Glad you caught up.

Nope, glad you caught up. Mr. Never Played the Gamer.

You know PR is full of shit every time he has to use the "never played the game" post because he has no logical rebuttal because all he has been spewing is shit. He also has no idea of my background, and the hint would be his assumption is once again poor.


Give us "your background". Where did you play college football? What position? How many years starting. How good was your team? Top 25? FBS/DI level? Were you all conference?

If you have so much football knowledge, why don't you show it?
 
PlayerRep said:
HHH, feel free to explain how you disagree that playing your starting and best QB, coming into the Cat game with a win (and not a disappointing loss), and not having your starting QB playing his second game back from injury rather than his first, does not increase the chances of winning.

I sometimes use the never-played-the-game card with people who I truly believe say dumb things and indicate that they never played the game and don't understand the game. This applies to you, in my view.

Regarding my first para, let me help you. Just confirm and say this:

No, I don't agree that playing your starter and best QB increases the chances of winning, and explain why.

No, I don't agree that coming into the Cat game with a win (and not a bad loss) brings momentum and increases the chances of winning.

No, I don't agree that having the team's starter playing in his 2d game coming back from injury, is better than playing his 1st game back from injury, and explain why.

No, I don't agree that a qb averaging 309 yards (6th best in the nation), with a 66% completion percentage, with a142 passing rating, with 25 TD's in 9 games, and averaging considerably less than 2 sacks per game, is not good.

The answers to all those questions, no matter what they are, don't change the fact that what YOU are engaging in is pure speculation. Plain and simple.
 
AZGrizFan said:
PlayerRep said:
HHH, feel free to explain how you disagree that playing your starting and best QB, coming into the Cat game with a win (and not a disappointing loss), and not having your starting QB playing his second game back from injury rather than his first, does not increase the chances of winning.

I sometimes use the never-played-the-game card with people who I truly believe say dumb things and indicate that they never played the game and don't understand the game. This applies to you, in my view.

Regarding my first para, let me help you. Just confirm and say this:

No, I don't agree that playing your starter and best QB increases the chances of winning, and explain why.

No, I don't agree that coming into the Cat game with a win (and not a bad loss) brings momentum and increases the chances of winning.

No, I don't agree that having the team's starter playing in his 2d game coming back from injury, is better than playing his 1st game back from injury, and explain why.

No, I don't agree that a qb averaging 309 yards (6th best in the nation), with a 66% completion percentage, with a142 passing rating, with 25 TD's in 9 games, and averaging considerably less than 2 sacks per game, is not good.



The answers to all those questions, no matter what they are, don't change the fact that what YOU are engaging in is pure speculation. Plain and simple.

Nope, don't agree, if your comment was even serious.
 
CV Griz Fan said:
SACCAT66 said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
SACCAT66 said:
So.... This guy should have played at UNC

57cb8caada027.image.jpg


But this guy didn't play him....

77ec475ae681682ca30f6a7067002609.jpg


So you lost to this team the next week...

Murray-dives-for-6-into-the-end-zone-1140x641.jpg



Is that what we are talking about?

That is the assumption.

OH!!! And then...Some of these guys....

-grizzly-2.jpg20140906.jpg



told player rep a FACT!!

I am sorry but this post is pretty friggin' funny....

CV, why does the father of a former Griz player who never got on the field at UM, and someone who doesn't live anywhere close to MT and never did, still hang around a Griz message board 4 or so years after his son was off the team? Sees weird to me.

Do you post on BobcatNation, dissing TG too? How many posts did you make on egriz, a 100 or so, dissing TG?

I remember seeing your posts, when your son was on the team, dissing other safeties and players. Really weird that a dad comes on egriz to diss players that his son is competing with.
 
PlayerRep said:
HHH, feel free to explain how you disagree that playing your starting and best QB

Feel free to show me where I disagreed about playing the best QB.

PlayerRep said:
coming into the Cat game with a win (and not a disappointing loss)

There is no guarantee that the Griz win if BG plays at UNC, so pure speculation.

PlayerRep said:
and not having your starting QB playing his second game back from injury rather than his first, does not increase the chances of winning.

Once again, feel free to show me where I stated any such thing. I did state that it is pure speculation on your part that the ultimate outcome would have different.
 
PlayerRep said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
PlayerRep said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
You do realize that my stance from the beginning was that you were making assumptions based on opinions of a few football players. Along the way you added such gems as the old "he was rusty" and "Chalich was sacked too often" to support your "they would have won both games" assumption. Seems I was "getting it" right from the start. Glad you caught up.

Nope, glad you caught up. Mr. Never Played the Gamer.

You know PR is full of shit every time he has to use the "never played the game" post because he has no logical rebuttal because all he has been spewing is shit. He also has no idea of my background, and the hint would be his assumption is once again poor.


Give us "your background". Where did you play college football? What position? How many years starting. How good was your team? Top 25? FBS/DI level? Were you all conference?

If you have so much football knowledge, why don't you show it?

So now you want to use the "never played the game at the collegiate level" mantra? Keep going PR, this is kind of fun.
 
fanofzoo said:
God damn it, having only played back in the Woody Hayes era this is hard to follow. Guess my intellect isn't what it used to be.

Ahhhh, too much love from daddy.

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This is what I SPECULATE happened to PR, although that was a time before the advent of the modern plastic helmet.
 
"Momentum" sure didn't help Chalich after his win against ISU going into the UNC game, but I'm sure PR has some excuse as to why it didn't in his case, but would have for Gus.
 
Gustafson piled up his stats against the weak opponents. His bad games were really bad and usually came in the important games. Under pressure, he was not a gamer. I will SPECULATE that his bad performances had nothing to do with momentum, even within the same game. Check out the 2015 SDSU playoff game, 1st half really good (should have had good momentum) vs. second half really bad, where we barely held on to win.

Another speculation on my part; Chalich plays the second half of the MSU game, we win.
 
This is simply my assumption based soley on my speculation of this thread but is anyone else F-ing confused or should I assume it is just me until I ask a player on the team?
Sidenote- Player rep keeps calling BG the starter..... Now I may, or may not have ever played the game but I can't stop but think that there are teams out there that routinely change their players out based on factors like quality of play or injuries. I feel like that may even be the reason for the invention of a "depth chart". But maybe Drew Bledsoe is still the starting QB for the Patriots and Tom Brady is just a fictional character? PR, can you get on a 3 way call with Drew and Tommy (I imagine you are on a level where you call him Tommy) and get to the bottom of this whole subs becoming starters saga.
Thanks in advance.
 
Ursa Major said:
fanofzoo said:
God damn it, having only played back in the Woody Hayes era this is hard to follow. Guess my intellect isn't what it used to be.

Ahhhh, too much love from daddy.

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This is what I SPECULATE happened to PR, although that was a time before the advent of the modern plastic helmet.

but they had an O-line.

On a side note I would help PR off the ground when he told BH that he doesn't know because he never played.
 
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