Coach Stitt (Combined threads)

[HelenaHandBasket]

True... But as I Stated earlier Stitts dudes will be Frosh and Sophs this year... You have to admit that most players don't figure it out until they are Juniors.

Guess I would rather go 6-5 playing young kids than playing upperclassmen.

You play the guys who earn the starting or backup positions. That is, if you want to see what competition brings out in your players.

If the current upperclassmen on the OL are head and shoulders better than the young kids, then the Griz are in trouble. If it is close, play the young kids.

 

[EverettGriz]

So instead of bitchin' about Stitt (bas), we now get endless bitchin' about shutting down the endless bitchin' about Stitt (babas or ba²s). Would PR be satisfied if everybody just said you're right, you know more than anybody on this board and should never be contradicted? Not saying PR is wrong. I have no idea, but seldom do you see someone so obsessed with brow beating every single minor contradictory opinion holder into submission. People will sometimes disagree. So what? Let the season begin.

Sometimes I just feel it's necessary to try to talk some sense into some of here knuckleheads. Disagreeing with someone or their posts is not browbeating.

When it comes to MT football, You wouldn't know "sense" if it danced naked in front of you.

I believe that's scheduled to occur when the boys are back in town.

 

[horribilisfan8184]

True... But as I Stated earlier Stitts dudes will be Frosh and Sophs this year... You have to admit that most players don't figure it out until they are Juniors.

Guess I would rather go 6-5 playing young kids than playing upperclassmen.

You play the guys who earn the starting or backup positions. That is, if you want to see what competition brings out in your players.

If the current upperclassmen on the OL are head and shoulders better than the young kids, then the Griz are in trouble. If it is close, play the young kids.

And so we shall see.

 

[AZDoc]

Guess I would rather go 6-5 playing young kids than playing upperclassmen.

You play the guys who earn the starting or backup positions. That is, if you want to see what competition brings out in your players.

If the current upperclassmen on the OL are head and shoulders better than the young kids, then the Griz are in trouble. If it is close, play the young kids.

And so we shall see.

I'm a huge play the best player guy...for obvious reasons. The risks are younger kids make mistakes, vets less often. If you've got a stud, but he screws up (false start) 5 times a game, vs a guy missing 3 blocks and no penalties (vet) what do you do? It's a lot more complicated than x's and o's and straight skill level. When I played, we had a DE that in practice literally kicked the crap out of us regularly. I mean absolutely couldn't figure out why he wasn't playing at a higher level (grades). But come game time (when he finally was eligible) he was so dumb, he couldn't figure out where to line up. He got his azz kicked all the time.
I'm also a believer in the effort you put into the classroom translates into Saturday's. Skill only goes so far and if you work hard at school, that's the work ethic you need to be a better player, understand the game, and have less mental mistakes. We don't know how these kids do in class, how hard they work at practice to improve, or their football IQ. For the OL, even though the upper classmen are probably top on the depth chart, any coach worth a crap would play the guy that performs better, regardless of age. Just my :twocents:

 

[The_Real_Chief]

You play the guys who earn the starting or backup positions. That is, if you want to see what competition brings out in your players.

If the current upperclassmen on the OL are head and shoulders better than the young kids, then the Griz are in trouble. If it is close, play the young kids.

And so we shall see.

I'm a huge play the best player guy...for obvious reasons. The risks are younger kids make mistakes, vets less often. If you've got a stud, but he screws up (false start) 5 times a game, vs a guy missing 3 blocks and no penalties (vet) what do you do? It's a lot more complicated than x's and o's and straight skill level. When I played, we had a DE that in practice literally kicked the crap out of us regularly. I mean absolutely couldn't figure out why he wasn't playing at a higher level (grades). But come game time (when he finally was eligible) he was so dumb, he couldn't figure out where to line up. He got his azz kicked all the time.
I'm also a believer in the effort you put into the classroom translates into Saturday's. Skill only goes so far and if you work hard at school, that's the work ethic you need to be a better player, understand the game, and have less mental mistakes. We don't know how these kids do in class, how hard they work at practice to improve, or their football IQ. For the OL, even though the upper classmen are probably top on the depth chart, any coach worth a crap would play the guy that performs better, regardless of age. Just my :twocents:

I'm a huge play the best player guy as well, I like when good players play over bad players.

 

[AZDoc]

If the current upperclassmen on the OL are head and shoulders better than the young kids, then the Griz are in trouble. If it is close, play the young kids.

And so we shall see.

I'm a huge play the best player guy...for obvious reasons. The risks are younger kids make mistakes, vets less often. If you've got a stud, but he screws up (false start) 5 times a game, vs a guy missing 3 blocks and no penalties (vet) what do you do? It's a lot more complicated than x's and o's and straight skill level. When I played, we had a DE that in practice literally kicked the crap out of us regularly. I mean absolutely couldn't figure out why he wasn't playing at a higher level (grades). But come game time (when he finally was eligible) he was so dumb, he couldn't figure out where to line up. He got his azz kicked all the time.
I'm also a believer in the effort you put into the classroom translates into Saturday's. Skill only goes so far and if you work hard at school, that's the work ethic you need to be a better player, understand the game, and have less mental mistakes. We don't know how these kids do in class, how hard they work at practice to improve, or their football IQ. For the OL, even though the upper classmen are probably top on the depth chart, any coach worth a crap would play the guy that performs better, regardless of age. Just my :twocents:

I'm a huge play the best player guy as well, I like when good players play over bad players.

hahaha...many have seen that isn't the case though, was my point. Knew someone would hit that out of the park when I lobbed it up like that

 

[griz5700]

The 2015 has good talent, by the way. Jeez, look at the roster. M. Sanders, R. McKinley, BG, Chalich, Sullivan, Held, Jones, Henderson, M. Rassmusen, Strahm, N. Harris, Sandry (think he was an early Delaney recruit), Gamboa, KVA, Kose, C. Lebsock, JR Nelson, Nguyen, Counts, Epperly, J. Wilson, Kidder, Buss, Bradley, Holmes, Crittendon, Sims (think he was Delaney), Schye, Cochran, Sirmon, Weyer, all the o-lineman some of you don't like (but who started for 3 years, except for 1 position), Horner, Carslon, Lider, Bingham, Peevey, R. Johnson. Probably some more. I left off guys who I thought may have been late Stitt recruits.

Thats a lot of average players and young players... Again LBS, WR and DL's were above average (Though not much depth), not much else.

31 starters on list not including o-lineman. And qb's, a rb, many in the secondary, kicker, punter, holder, h-backs.

Starters don't equal great athletes... an 0-11 team has 24 starters.

Again... it is my opinion that Mick left UM with a lot of average players.
DLine, LB's and two WR were above average.

I will give you a perfect example. You list BG... can you honestly say that he was anything more than a Average Big Sky QB?

Without Brady, can you imagine how Stitt's first 2 seasons would have gone?

You are clueless. And guess what, Stitt's recruiting sucks.

 

[bgbigdog]

So instead of bitchin' about Stitt (bas), we now get endless bitchin' about shutting down the endless bitchin' about Stitt (babas or ba²s). Would PR be satisfied if everybody just said you're right, you know more than anybody on this board and should never be contradicted? Not saying PR is wrong. I have no idea, but seldom do you see someone so obsessed with brow beating every single minor contradictory opinion holder into submission. People will sometimes disagree. So what? Let the season begin.

Sometimes I just feel it's necessary to try to talk some sense into some of here knuckleheads. Disagreeing with someone or their posts is not browbeating.

When it comes to MT football, You wouldn't know "sense" if it danced naked in front of you.

I believe that's scheduled to occur when the boys are back in town.

:lol:

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Without Brady, can you imagine how Stitt's first 2 seasons would have gone?

You are clueless. And guess what, Stitt's recruiting sucks.

So excited that people are happy with an average QB leading an average team to a couple average seasons. Guess BG is good.

 

[PlayerRep]

37 TDs and 17 INT
4900 yards in his Jr and Senior seasons

And in at least 3 games (EWU, NAU and msu- all loses) missed wide open WR's for TDs early in games that would have changed the whole flow of those games.

Only reason NFL came sniffing is he is 6'7 and happened to have one of his best games on TV vs. ND State.

Sorry PR those are very average Big Sky QB Stats

I disagree that those are average qb stats. Those are pretty good stats. Average qb's don't start for 2 years for UM. Average qb's don't get NFL tryouts. BG was sometimes great, sometimes very good, sometimes pretty good, and sometimes not so hot. Sorry, Payton, just not going to agree with you on this, nor most of what you posted in that post previously. It is just not true that Stitt a team with little talent. There was at least some good talent at every position.

Feel free to lay out your specifics on which guys on the list were very average or not good. Then we can have further discussion.

 

[PlayerRep]

Without Brady, can you imagine how Stitt's first 2 seasons would have gone?

You are clueless. And guess what, Stitt's recruiting sucks.

So excited that people are happy with an average QB leading an average team to a couple average seasons. Guess BG is good.

How often would you guess average qb's get NFL tryouts? How many teams with average qb's have beaten NDSU? How many average qb's ended up about 4th nationally in passing yards per game? How many average qb's have been 2-yr starters for the Griz in the past 25 years?

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Without Brady, can you imagine how Stitt's first 2 seasons would have gone?

You are clueless. And guess what, Stitt's recruiting sucks.

So excited that people are happy with an average QB leading an average team to a couple average seasons. Guess BG is good.

How often would you guess average qb's get NFL tryouts? How many teams with average qb's have beaten NDSU? How many average qb's ended up about 4th nationally in passing yards per game? How many average qb's have been 2-yr starters for the Griz in the past 25 years?

Jordan West from EWU got an NFL tryout too. A guy that threw 9 whole passes his Senior year. 3rd most attempts on the team and barely more than Cooper Kupp. Guess he is good too. Must mean the 2 year starter at UM would have been the 3rd/4th best QB at EWU. I have a better question, which Griz starting QB's over the past 25 years is BG better than? Jason Washington.

 

[PlayerRep]

Without Brady, can you imagine how Stitt's first 2 seasons would have gone?

You are clueless. And guess what, Stitt's recruiting sucks.

So excited that people are happy with an average QB leading an average team to a couple average seasons. Guess BG is good.

How often would you guess average qb's get NFL tryouts? How many teams with average qb's have beaten NDSU? How many average qb's ended up about 4th nationally in passing yards per game? How many average qb's have been 2-yr starters for the Griz in the past 25 years?

Jordan West from EWU got an NFL tryout too. A guy that threw 9 whole passes his Senior year. 3rd most attempts on the team and barely more than Cooper Kupp. Guess he is good too. Must mean the 2 year starter at UM would have been the 3rd/4th best QB at EWU. I have a better question, which Griz starting QB's over the past 25 years is BG better than? Jason Washington.

BG was as good or better than Washington, Disney, Roper, the kid who ran the option, the big left hander who played a few years ago, Montana, Chalich, Simis, the CMR kid who started a few games and left, the kid who started when Dickenson was hurt, did Jeff Larson start any games. That's about 10. And, in my view, was right up there with Selle and Bergquist.

Why don't you look at the qb stats, and get back to us.

 

[SoldierGriz]

So excited that people are happy with an average QB leading an average team to a couple average seasons. Guess BG is good.

How often would you guess average qb's get NFL tryouts? How many teams with average qb's have beaten NDSU? How many average qb's ended up about 4th nationally in passing yards per game? How many average qb's have been 2-yr starters for the Griz in the past 25 years?

Jordan West from EWU got an NFL tryout too. A guy that threw 9 whole passes his Senior year. 3rd most attempts on the team and barely more than Cooper Kupp. Guess he is good too. Must mean the 2 year starter at UM would have been the 3rd/4th best QB at EWU. I have a better question, which Griz starting QB's over the past 25 years is BG better than? Jason Washington.

BG was as good or better than Washington, Disney, Roper, the kid who ran the option, the big left hander who played a few years ago, Montana, Chalich, Simis, the CMR kid who started a few games and left, the kid who started when Dickenson was hurt, did Jeff Larson start any games. That's about 10. And, in my view, was right up there with Selle and Bergquist.

Why don't you look at the qb stats, and get back to us.

I don't always agree with PR, but I gotta admit I absolutely love his defense of BG.

I just don't understand the upside of the opposite. I've said it before...we should all just thank BG for his efforts as a Griz...and move on.

 

[PlayerRep]

How often would you guess average qb's get NFL tryouts? How many teams with average qb's have beaten NDSU? How many average qb's ended up about 4th nationally in passing yards per game? How many average qb's have been 2-yr starters for the Griz in the past 25 years?

Jordan West from EWU got an NFL tryout too. A guy that threw 9 whole passes his Senior year. 3rd most attempts on the team and barely more than Cooper Kupp. Guess he is good too. Must mean the 2 year starter at UM would have been the 3rd/4th best QB at EWU. I have a better question, which Griz starting QB's over the past 25 years is BG better than? Jason Washington.

BG was as good or better than Washington, Disney, Roper, the kid who ran the option, the big left hander who played a few years ago, Montana, Chalich, Simis, the CMR kid who started a few games and left, the kid who started when Dickenson was hurt, did Jeff Larson start any games. That's about 10. And, in my view, was right up there with Selle and Bergquist.

Why don't you look at the qb stats, and get back to us.

I don't always agree with PR, but I gotta admit I absolutely love his defense of BG.

I just don't understand the upside of the opposite. I've said it before...we should all just thank BG for his efforts as a Griz...and move on.

BG was good, but never as good or consistent as the fans wanted him to be. He had some great games. He he had some not so great games. He missed some throws. He led the team well. He gave it his all. BG will go far in life. It's unfortunate that more of eGriz doesn't have Soldier's view.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

So excited that people are happy with an average QB leading an average team to a couple average seasons. Guess BG is good.

How often would you guess average qb's get NFL tryouts? How many teams with average qb's have beaten NDSU? How many average qb's ended up about 4th nationally in passing yards per game? How many average qb's have been 2-yr starters for the Griz in the past 25 years?

Jordan West from EWU got an NFL tryout too. A guy that threw 9 whole passes his Senior year. 3rd most attempts on the team and barely more than Cooper Kupp. Guess he is good too. Must mean the 2 year starter at UM would have been the 3rd/4th best QB at EWU. I have a better question, which Griz starting QB's over the past 25 years is BG better than? Jason Washington.

BG was as good or better than Washington, Disney, Roper, the kid who ran the option, the big left hander who played a few years ago, Montana, Chalich, Simis, the CMR kid who started a few games and left, the kid who started when Dickenson was hurt, did Jeff Larson start any games. That's about 10. And, in my view, was right up there with Selle and Bergquist.

Why don't you look at the qb stats, and get back to us.

So are you going to name every high school walk-on QB or stick to actual starting QB's, and I mean the clear #1 guy each year, not the "he started 1 game" bullshit.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

How often would you guess average qb's get NFL tryouts? How many teams with average qb's have beaten NDSU? How many average qb's ended up about 4th nationally in passing yards per game? How many average qb's have been 2-yr starters for the Griz in the past 25 years?

Jordan West from EWU got an NFL tryout too. A guy that threw 9 whole passes his Senior year. 3rd most attempts on the team and barely more than Cooper Kupp. Guess he is good too. Must mean the 2 year starter at UM would have been the 3rd/4th best QB at EWU. I have a better question, which Griz starting QB's over the past 25 years is BG better than? Jason Washington.

BG was as good or better than Washington, Disney, Roper, the kid who ran the option, the big left hander who played a few years ago, Montana, Chalich, Simis, the CMR kid who started a few games and left, the kid who started when Dickenson was hurt, did Jeff Larson start any games. That's about 10. And, in my view, was right up there with Selle and Bergquist.

Why don't you look at the qb stats, and get back to us.

I don't always agree with PR, but I gotta admit I absolutely love his defense of BG.

I just don't understand the upside of the opposite. I've said it before...we should all just thank BG for his efforts as a Griz...and move on.

Is it bad to be an average college QB? Is it a negative?

 

[PlayerRep]

How often would you guess average qb's get NFL tryouts? How many teams with average qb's have beaten NDSU? How many average qb's ended up about 4th nationally in passing yards per game? How many average qb's have been 2-yr starters for the Griz in the past 25 years?

Jordan West from EWU got an NFL tryout too. A guy that threw 9 whole passes his Senior year. 3rd most attempts on the team and barely more than Cooper Kupp. Guess he is good too. Must mean the 2 year starter at UM would have been the 3rd/4th best QB at EWU. I have a better question, which Griz starting QB's over the past 25 years is BG better than? Jason Washington.

BG was as good or better than Washington, Disney, Roper, the kid who ran the option, the big left hander who played a few years ago, Montana, Chalich, Simis, the CMR kid who started a few games and left, the kid who started when Dickenson was hurt, did Jeff Larson start any games. That's about 10. And, in my view, was right up there with Selle and Bergquist.

Why don't you look at the qb stats, and get back to us.

So are you going to name every high school walk-on QB or stick to actual starting QB's, and I mean the clear #1 guy each year, not the "he started 1 game" bullshit.

Learn to write and learn something about football and the Griz if you want to have a discussion with me--or else I will run you out of the gym. You are certainly one of the dumbest football posters on eGriz.

 

[sdk.catfish]

I guess consolidating treads means consolidating small hunks of dung into one massive bullshit thread that has no purpose whatsoever. The last several posts don't have anything to do with Stitt.

 

[Paytonlives]

I guess consolidating treads means consolidating small hunks of dung into one massive bullshit thread that has no purpose whatsoever. The last several posts don't have anything to do with Stitt.

About some it up.... and the other 15 threads