Coach Stitt (Combined threads)

[AZDoc]

But I will also add that the current OL depth chart is more a projection of how poorly he has done bringing in talent to upgrade than how good the current OL talent is.

Stitts OL recruits are incoming freshmen and red shirt freshmen.... how can you justify your statement, knowing that CB'S and OLine are the hardest positions to find drop downs

Not true. Stitt has some of his 0-lineman who will be in their 3d year in the program. I believe he brought in some late in his first recruiting season. Also, if there was such a huge lack of o-line talent, why not bring in JC's and drop downs, or at least try?

You honestly think he did not try? His first recruiting class was after he had been on the job less than 8 weeks. So even if you count that class it would be incoming freshmen, red shirt freshmen and red shirt sophomores this fall. Nothing above a freshmen in his first two years of games.

I think this may be where the 4 less scholarships were painful. Hard to justify a drop down without full scholarship obviously. Had to spread thin a bit overall with creative scholarshiping. Certainly won't be likely to get a drop down, out of state kid, to Missoula without a full scholarship. My guess is that he was hoping the O-line was good enough to get some things done and he could get the skill players for the offense. Corner is also not easy, with same issue on less available just made it a numbers game essentially. Now with full numbers, depth, and OL skill in the young guys, I think it's on the right track.

I for one was sick of the numerous threads about stitt sucking and the second coming of BH. Already sick of people giving PL trouble about it. Perhaps he may have done it differently and merged them instead of closing, but they were all over the place and truely for the most part garbage (some good comments). The best thing said is in 7 weeks we have Griz football. I, for one, plan on taking my son to his first Griz game week 3, the day after his birthday. The Griz will win, be 2-1, and cannot wait for the experience. If Nick Saban was the coach, people would complain on here because his press conferences are boring, he wears funny sun hats so he doesn't get skin cancer, or they don't like the name "Nick". Give it a freaking rest, people. Fall camp is close...I can smell the tailgating food...I can feel some excitement in the air...and I think that the Griz will have a good overall season, and we can put to rest some of this bull crap.

 

[PlayerRep]

So instead of bitchin' about Stitt (bas), we now get endless bitchin' about shutting down the endless bitchin' about Stitt (babas or ba²s). Would PR be satisfied if everybody just said you're right, you know more than anybody on this board and should never be contradicted? Not saying PR is wrong. I have no idea, but seldom do you see someone so obsessed with brow beating every single minor contradictory opinion holder into submission. People will sometimes disagree. So what? Let the season begin.

Sometimes I just feel it's necessary to try to talk some sense into some of here knuckleheads. Disagreeing with someone or their posts is not browbeating.

 

[PlayerRep]

The 2015 has good talent, by the way. Jeez, look at the roster. M. Sanders, R. McKinley, BG, Chalich, Sullivan, Held, Jones, Henderson, M. Rassmusen, Strahm, N. Harris, Sandry (think he was an early Delaney recruit), Gamboa, KVA, Kose, C. Lebsock, JR Nelson, Nguyen, Counts, Epperly, J. Wilson, Kidder, Buss, Bradley, Holmes, Crittendon, Sims (think he was Delaney), Schye, Cochran, Sirmon, Weyer, all the o-lineman some of you don't like (but who started for 3 years, except for 1 position), Horner, Carslon, Lider, Bingham, Peevey, R. Johnson. Probably some more. I left off guys who I thought may have been late Stitt recruits.

Thats a lot of average players and young players... Again LBS, WR and DL's were above average (Though not much depth), not much else.

31 starters on list not including o-lineman. And qb's, a rb, many in the secondary, kicker, punter, holder, h-backs.

 

[Paytonlives]

Payton: it appears to me that the multiple threads about Stitt stimulated considerable conversation about Stitt and our football program. Isn't that the objective unless the threads contain extreme profane language?
Some of us do have many concerns about Stitt and would like to express those concerns. Apparently you support Stitt which is your right to do so, however, I don't think it is appropriate for you to muzzle contrary views.

Not a "Stiit Guy", more of a wait and see guy, and yes I do support any UM head coach until he moves on or it becomes apparent that he is not the right guy. But even then I don't bash him... coaching is way harder then most would ever understand.

But I am not muzzling just cleaning. Dialog is the backbone of forums, but some have an agenda to disrupt and cause mayhem. And it finally had to be calmed.

The board became a daily "lets start another Stitt is a dumb ass lets fire him tread" and see which one of us can be more edgy.

So there you have it... this one thread can encompass all the "dialog" about Stitt, and not the other dozen or so.

 

[Spanky]

I say baloney to those that make excuses for Stitt not recruiting a couple of stud JC OL transfers.
Instead, we have 20+ Wide Receivers, with most of them sitting on the bench. Offensive Genius, no question!!

 

[EverettGriz]

It's like Kristallnacht for the anti-Stitt set.

Zu meiner Kartoffel und Pfirsich wachsender Freund. Die Familie meiner Frau flüchtete die Tyrannei des Nazi-Deutschlands, als sie Kinder waren. Ich werde daran erinnert, mehr als ich möchte, wie viel besser ihr Leben wäre, wenn nur irgendwelche Pfirsich Wodka im Haus wäre.

I'll respect Payton's wishes this one time. Now I'm off to Costco, always Costco for more brisket flats and golden marg elixer. Hopefully I can escape the siren calls of the DCell battery displays again. I find it embarrassing to ask the guy at the door to lash me to the cart to make the trip down that isle.

Mmmmm... Peach vodka!!!

 

[Paytonlives]

The 2015 has good talent, by the way. Jeez, look at the roster. M. Sanders, R. McKinley, BG, Chalich, Sullivan, Held, Jones, Henderson, M. Rassmusen, Strahm, N. Harris, Sandry (think he was an early Delaney recruit), Gamboa, KVA, Kose, C. Lebsock, JR Nelson, Nguyen, Counts, Epperly, J. Wilson, Kidder, Buss, Bradley, Holmes, Crittendon, Sims (think he was Delaney), Schye, Cochran, Sirmon, Weyer, all the o-lineman some of you don't like (but who started for 3 years, except for 1 position), Horner, Carslon, Lider, Bingham, Peevey, R. Johnson. Probably some more. I left off guys who I thought may have been late Stitt recruits.

Thats a lot of average players and young players... Again LBS, WR and DL's were above average (Though not much depth), not much else.

31 starters on list not including o-lineman. And qb's, a rb, many in the secondary, kicker, punter, holder, h-backs.

Starters don't equal great athletes... an 0-11 team has 24 starters.

Again... it is my opinion that Mick left UM with a lot of average players.
DLine, LB's and two WR were above average.

I will give you a perfect example. You list BG... can you honestly say that he was anything more than a Average Big Sky QB?

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

The 2015 has good talent, by the way. Jeez, look at the roster. M. Sanders, R. McKinley, BG, Chalich, Sullivan, Held, Jones, Henderson, M. Rassmusen, Strahm, N. Harris, Sandry (think he was an early Delaney recruit), Gamboa, KVA, Kose, C. Lebsock, JR Nelson, Nguyen, Counts, Epperly, J. Wilson, Kidder, Buss, Bradley, Holmes, Crittendon, Sims (think he was Delaney), Schye, Cochran, Sirmon, Weyer, all the o-lineman some of you don't like (but who started for 3 years, except for 1 position), Horner, Carslon, Lider, Bingham, Peevey, R. Johnson. Probably some more. I left off guys who I thought may have been late Stitt recruits.

Thats a lot of average players and young players... Again LBS, WR and DL's were above average (Though not much depth), not much else.

31 starters on list not including o-lineman. And qb's, a rb, many in the secondary, kicker, punter, holder, h-backs.

Starters don't equal great athletes... an 0-11 team has 24 starters.

Again... it is my opinion that Mick left UM with a lot of average players.
DLine, LB's and two WR were above average.

I will give you a perfect example. You list BG... can you honestly say that he was anything more than a Average Big Sky QB?

There was a whole lotta average on the offensive side of the ball last season, recruited by both this staff and the previous staff.

 

[Paytonlives]

37 TDs and 17 INT
4900 yards in his Jr and Senior seasons

And in at least 3 games (EWU, NAU and msu- all loses) missed wide open WR's for TDs early in games that would have changed the whole flow of those games.

Only reason NFL came sniffing is he is 6'7 and happened to have one of his best games on TV vs. ND State.

Sorry PR those are very average Big Sky QB Stats

 

[Paytonlives]

37 TDs and 17 INT
4900 yards in his Jr and Senior seasons

And in at least 3 games (EWU, NAU and msu- all loses) missed wide open WR's for TDs early in games that would have changed the whole flow of those games.

Only reason NFL came sniffing is he is 6'7 and happened to have one of his best games on TV vs. ND State.

Sorry PR those are very average Big Sky QB Stats

And that could be said of most of the starters on your list.

 

[Paytonlives]

Thats a lot of average players and young players... Again LBS, WR and DL's were above average (Though not much depth), not much else.

31 starters on list not including o-lineman. And qb's, a rb, many in the secondary, kicker, punter, holder, h-backs.

Starters don't equal great athletes... an 0-11 team has 24 starters.

Again... it is my opinion that Mick left UM with a lot of average players.
DLine, LB's and two WR were above average.

I will give you a perfect example. You list BG... can you honestly say that he was anything more than a Average Big Sky QB?

There was a whole lotta average on the offensive side of the ball last season, recruited by both this staff and the previous staff.

True... But as I Stated earlier Stitts dudes will be Frosh and Sophs this year... You have to admit that most players don't figure it out until they are Juniors.

 

[Paytonlives]

I say baloney to those that make excuses for Stitt not recruiting a couple of stud JC OL transfers.

Do you really think it's that easy? And how do you know he wasn't recruiting?

BTW if they were "stud" JC's Oline they ain't coming to Montana or any other FCS school.

 

[ari gold]

If some of the folks on eGriz were as smart as they think they are, they would probably be coaches themselves somewhere, dealing with an idiotic and unrealistic fanbase of their own...

 

[Paytonlives]

If some of the folks on eGriz were as smart as they think they are, they would probably be coaches themselves somewhere, dealing with an idiotic and unrealistic fanbase of their own...

Amen

 

[horribilisfan8184]

If some of the folks on eGriz were as smart as they think they are, they would probably be coaches themselves somewhere, dealing with an idiotic and unrealistic fanbase of their own...

amen brother!

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

dealing with an idiotic and unrealistic fanbase of their own...

This is a big reason why many no longer want to be in coaching. At the high school and club levels, coaches and officials a like are leaving due to parents and boosters.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

True... But as I Stated earlier Stitts dudes will be Frosh and Sophs this year... You have to admit that most players don't figure it out until they are Juniors.

Guess I would rather go 6-5 playing young kids than playing upperclassmen.

 

[Stop_HammerTime69]

So instead of bitchin' about Stitt (bas), we now get endless bitchin' about shutting down the endless bitchin' about Stitt (babas or ba²s). Would PR be satisfied if everybody just said you're right, you know more than anybody on this board and should never be contradicted? Not saying PR is wrong. I have no idea, but seldom do you see someone so obsessed with brow beating every single minor contradictory opinion holder into submission. People will sometimes disagree. So what? Let the season begin.

Sometimes I just feel it's necessary to try to talk some sense into some of here knuckleheads. Disagreeing with someone or their posts is not browbeating.

When it comes to MT football, You wouldn't know "sense" if it danced naked in front of you.

 

[Stop_HammerTime69]

If some of the folks on eGriz were as smart as they think they are, they would probably be coaches themselves somewhere, dealing with an idiotic and unrealistic fanbase of their own...

Well said.

 

[horribilisfan8184]

True... But as I Stated earlier Stitts dudes will be Frosh and Sophs this year... You have to admit that most players don't figure it out until they are Juniors.

Guess I would rather go 6-5 playing young kids than playing upperclassmen.

You play the guys who earn the starting or backup positions. That is, if you want to see what competition brings out in your players.